I think the xenomorph can see. In most if not all visual animals the eyes are the most vulnerable part of the animal, except in the case of the xenomorph where it's eyes are obscured by its dome. So if the dome obscures and protects the eyes then it makes the xenomorph all the more dangerous, you can't know what it sees, and you can't blind it.
Yeah on top of that not having a traditional eye and having layers of photoreceptors instead would mean that the creature has just another one up on its competing species !
Could you collaborate with Roanoke Gaming or check out his channel, please? He's a biology teacher who makes a living in discussing the lore and morphology of all kinds of creatures from games and stuff, and he replies to comments just like you. He could really helpful for when you make another video on different aspects of the Xenomorph.
I've heard theories the dome acts like a two way mirror. So they do have eyes but because it's hard to see into the dome so the eye sockets look empty to us. Or the dome itself is a giant "eye".
I mean it might be a bit of both! It’s likely they have some kind of eye and that the dome acts to enhance their sight whilst also acting to bring fear in the hearts of their prey!
All you need to know is that the xenomorphs are not blind and they can see. If you see it staring at you, you either run or close your eyes and say good night
@@traumateamunit2742 no. absolutely false. It can see you. The game dumbs it down a bit with bad peripheral vision because the game isn't perfect, but it can still see. For example, it can SEE your flashlight and flares. It can SEE you down a hallway. It can SEE you through windows. At a certain distance and angle, it can SEE you hiding under desks and tables. The game devs said the alien can even see you and you need to break its line of sight. Xenomorphs in movies demonstrated that they can learn through observation. An example is in Alien Resurrection. A scientist had the xenomorphs in a room and kept pressing a button that would freeze them whenever they tried attacking him through the window. After the third time(I think), his hand was hovering over the button and the xenomorphs stopped instantly. Once they escaped, a guard was investigating the empty room. One of the xenomorphs made it to the other side and pressed the button and killed the guard. The only blind xenomorphs I've seen were the ones in Colonial Marines. Once they hear sound, they will rush toward it and then blow themselves up.
The domes allways reminded me of radomes. Dielectric shells/ fairings which protect radar systems and antennae on aircraft and ships. It could use radio wave emitting systems to both scan its environment in total darkness, and communicate with members of its species. That would also explain the huge crown of the queen, working as a massive communication dish.
About the Alien III xeno with the eyes. That one is the hybrid. It is not a true xeno. As a matter of fact when it runs into a drone, the drone gives it the business. The audio comic is here on TH-cam.
There was a series in the comics called " Under the Knife " , it was the scientists at We-yu chopping up the whole line the life path of the alien . it also explained the sensory organs and much more . like if you did remove the chest burster the host died later due to cancer from the embryonic xenos process of drawing from the host .
@@ProjectACHERON thats cute . the OLNY time a embryo can be removed is when its still at the stage before the alien starts to form . other wise its cancer city even if the chest burster is some how sedated . if its not removed before that the clock is ticking . chestburster in a 2 hours unless a queen 2-3 days or cancer in a week . see " Under the Knife " . the face hugger can be removed but it will dump a dose of cynide before that as the host will be deemed unworthy , a suicide pill .
Theories: the “dotted lines” running around under the cowl and down the arms and legs are thousands of little eyes which make a composite picture of nearly 360 degrees around the creature. Theory 2: it doesn’t see but smells with the widely spaced dorsal fins and it forms a picture of the world based on smell. Theory 3: it doesn’t see, but the head picks up electromagnetic impulses, like a hammerhead shard detecting the electrical impulses of a crab hidden by sand. Or, all theories combined.
I always assumed the dome was its self some sort of evolved ocular device. It clearly has eye sockets in its skull, mostly from the ocular DNA of its earthly hosts or its human like hosts (The engineers). I figured, maybe the retinas, and eyeballs coagulated into the dome its self, and somehow it sees with an echo location ability. ALSO, I thought the trackers that the humans used was supposed to be a direct parallel to how the aliens saw.
Alien 3 had wide angle lens vision and some other frequencies in the EM spectrum. A L I E N Covenant had Adobe Photoshop Mosaic-filter vision in high HD IMAX resolution.
I was under the impression the original novelization if the first movie said it also used electrical fields like the lines on the sides of a fish. This is both a crude proximity sensor and a way to detect the nervous systems of prey. This was located in the long skull. Then again, these may also be the speculations of my college roommate. But it’s worth checking. A bit like how everyone forgets all the amazing bits at the end of War of the Worlds where Venus was simultaneously and successfully attacked by Mars, and was slowly turning red.
More interestingly is HOW do they see?! Famously H R Giger designed them without any visible eyes with the only movie exception being the truly awful « baby-faced » Xenomorph from Aliens: Resurrection.
The fishbowl vision in Alien 3 felt spectacularly lazy. I can accept it as the camera implying where the Alien is, but as the actual point of view of the Alien it seems incredibly dull, considering both the Predator and the Terminator in films before Alien 3 had done "alien vision" so well. A xenomorph "seeing" the world almost exactly as a human does seems............not very alien at all :/
I like the ideal that they do not see as in light but can feel energy like a shark. I do not think that they can see light and may have even less ability to see infrared .
I think they see the bioelectric field combined with a strong sense of smell like a shark on Earth. This could allow them to decide the suitability of a host for embryo implantation. That's why they don't immediately attack Artificial People on sight and only kill them when they become a threat.
its all speculation no one knows and yes id' knew you would use covenant😃 but i think they sence way more than useing vison. other than that i got nothing😂
Like Killer whales, Dolphins and Bats, echo location or some type of sonar, is probably how they see!! That is also a runner Xenomorph, not a regular Xenomorph!!
The Alien films aren't documentaries, they are art. The "vision" we get is an artistic representation to give us a POV of their fleeing victims. How the Alien sees was never all that important to me. On top of that, the whole point of having an alien be the antagonist was because it was just that, alien. Sometimes the mystery of not knowing is most of the fun. I think too many people are uncomfortable with ambiguity & the unknown. The whole point of removing the eyes that the Xeno originally had during early production was to amp up it's alien nature. Coming up with explanations is merely an attempt to demystify something that was designed to be a mystery.
Still Alien films are science fiction, which mean a mixture of both terms, some may preffer more science and others may preffer more fiction (but not only or they would be looking for fantasy)... thats what make huge differecen on the same genre, just like compare sunshine or space odyssey with avengers. I agree that some elements are designed (or not designed at all) to not be discovered, but one of the main elements of the Alien franchise is to "decompose the alien threat and learn about it to be able to fight against it" that is the kind of thing that makes the public think about the film/franchise later was over, and even leads to reconsider the actions the cast on the movies do with what they (and the public) know when you see it a second time... My personal tastes are that one movie of this genre needs to find the "perfect balance" where you try to lead to something new or innovative but at the same time, try to have your feet on the ground rather than use every fictional resource you can, I think thats mostly why the super hero movies ussually cannot be taken seriously by Sci-fi lovers, because they ussually create one base that you tend to follow and once the plot becomes obvious this genre tends to "break their own base" to surprise the public... things like how certain hero may have 4 times more strengh on one scene compared to another one, or how sometimes may appear suddenly some device/substance with no time on screen to totally chance the initial recipe... I think this is also very applicable talking about the Zombie genre, half is mostly based on mistical/sorcery base and the other gets science resources to portrait an aparent realistic situation (this genre is hard because human body knowledge is bigger than our knowledge about space) so reach something flesh but plausuble gets harder and harder overtime. (just the same old sci-fi films that point to a distant future may get the science part diluted with the time or "improved") like lets say the Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Seas (submarine) or even on Alien franchise, where, while the computers are clearly "diluted" for our current standards where such a retro style would not fit easily on such situation, others like the standard propulsion system that forced long travels reinforces the science factor on the movie, others are still on the "limbo" like the Cryopods, that is still a recurrent resource on this genre. In resume, Alien had certain things made to never be known (perfect example is the space jockey in A1) but still with almost no text/lore involved on this element the artistical conception aims to "plausible"... the rest of the film tries to portray a consistent base of a crew fighting the uknown, and the more it goes ahead the more they discover about the creature so going ahead and think on "what if" is just follow the route the original film started. * Just pointing this because the "How the Alien sees was never all that important to me"... it is not important, until it is.... remember Jurassic Park and T-rex scene? everybody expects a "typical behaviour" until this element suddenly appeared and changed totally the outcome... this also is very relevant on Predator 2, where "we all knew that predator sees on thermal vision" until it stops doing it and suddenly turning what for the public was seen as a disadvantage previously into an advantage (for the creature)
The Xenomorph in most if not all forms of it's life cycle probably have sensory organs similar in function to the ampullae of Lorenzini in great white sharks. These sensory organs detect electrical fields as minute as the ones generated by muscular and heart activity coming from prey. I could fully accept that the Xenomorph could also detect this as a means of locating prey/host and the ambient/static electrical activity from human and non-human sources, as a means of keeping their own acid blood charged by slow absorption.
yeah its pretty unexplored in canon currently, and for good reason, the less we understand about how they traverse the world the more terrifying they are
I think the xenomorph can see. In most if not all visual animals the eyes are the most vulnerable part of the animal, except in the case of the xenomorph where it's eyes are obscured by its dome. So if the dome obscures and protects the eyes then it makes the xenomorph all the more dangerous, you can't know what it sees, and you can't blind it.
Yeah on top of that not having a traditional eye and having layers of photoreceptors instead would mean that the creature has just another one up on its competing species !
Could you collaborate with Roanoke Gaming or check out his channel, please? He's a biology teacher who makes a living in discussing the lore and morphology of all kinds of creatures from games and stuff, and he replies to comments just like you. He could really helpful for when you make another video on different aspects of the Xenomorph.
Yeah okay I’ll try and get in contact and see how we go from there!
I always believed they have thermal vision or 'see' using echo location, or combination of the two.
i think hearing and vibration is a massive component to their vision however i do beliweve they have traditional sight as well !
@@ProjectACHERON I just realized that the skull may act as a giant resonating chamber too, like the melon of a dolphin!
Wow. This is definitely the best as well as the most in depth video on xenomorph vision out there. Top Shelf
Thank you so much that means the world to hear!!!
I've heard theories the dome acts like a two way mirror. So they do have eyes but because it's hard to see into the dome so the eye sockets look empty to us. Or the dome itself is a giant "eye".
I mean it might be a bit of both! It’s likely they have some kind of eye and that the dome acts to enhance their sight whilst also acting to bring fear in the hearts of their prey!
All you need to know is that the xenomorphs are not blind and they can see. If you see it staring at you, you either run or close your eyes and say good night
Yeah pretty much, that should have been my entire video ! 👍🏻😂
isn't the one in isolation blind though and can only hear sound and touche?
@@traumateamunit2742 no. absolutely false. It can see you. The game dumbs it down a bit with bad peripheral vision because the game isn't perfect, but it can still see. For example, it can SEE your flashlight and flares. It can SEE you down a hallway. It can SEE you through windows. At a certain distance and angle, it can SEE you hiding under desks and tables. The game devs said the alien can even see you and you need to break its line of sight.
Xenomorphs in movies demonstrated that they can learn through observation. An example is in Alien Resurrection. A scientist had the xenomorphs in a room and kept pressing a button that would freeze them whenever they tried attacking him through the window. After the third time(I think), his hand was hovering over the button and the xenomorphs stopped instantly. Once they escaped, a guard was investigating the empty room. One of the xenomorphs made it to the other side and pressed the button and killed the guard.
The only blind xenomorphs I've seen were the ones in Colonial Marines. Once they hear sound, they will rush toward it and then blow themselves up.
@@traumateamunit2742 like your name btw
I don’t mean to sound greedy, but I want more!!!! Love it. Thanks again for your show 👍
Thank you so much and not greedy at all, you request more content and more content you shall have!!
The domes allways reminded me of radomes. Dielectric shells/ fairings which protect radar systems and antennae on aircraft and ships. It could use radio wave emitting systems to both scan its environment in total darkness, and communicate with members of its species. That would also explain the huge crown of the queen, working as a massive communication dish.
Thats not a half bad theory!!
@@ProjectACHERON thank you.
Very cool, thanks
Your very much welcome glad you enjoyed the video!
About the Alien III xeno with the eyes. That one is the hybrid. It is not a true xeno. As a matter of fact when it runs into a drone, the drone gives it the business. The audio comic is here on TH-cam.
yeah im aware
Nice video! I always thought that xenomorph vicion was bat like ecolocation through multiple obstacles.
There was a series in the comics called " Under the Knife " , it was the scientists at We-yu chopping up the whole line the life path of the alien . it also explained the sensory organs and much more . like if you did remove the chest burster the host died later due to cancer from the embryonic xenos process of drawing from the host .
I have made a video going over chestburster removal process, you should go and check that out!
@@ProjectACHERON thats cute . the OLNY time a embryo can be removed is when its still at the stage before the alien starts to form . other wise its cancer city even if the chest burster is some how sedated . if its not removed before that the clock is ticking . chestburster in a 2 hours unless a queen 2-3 days or cancer in a week . see " Under the Knife " . the face hugger can be removed but it will dump a dose of cynide before that as the host will be deemed unworthy , a suicide pill .
I think xenomorphs ''see/perceive'' better than an average human
Also; what does a xenomorph see a human? - *a free real estate(!)*
Yes I definitely agree on both accounts haha ! 😂👍🏻
No examples from the myriad videogames or A3?
I like the full spectrum theory. sharks also have electrical sensors and pits that sense vibration.
I think you're right. Great video.
Theories: the “dotted lines” running around under the cowl and down the arms and legs are thousands of little eyes which make a composite picture of nearly 360 degrees around the creature. Theory 2: it doesn’t see but smells with the widely spaced dorsal fins and it forms a picture of the world based on smell. Theory 3: it doesn’t see, but the head picks up electromagnetic impulses, like a hammerhead shard detecting the electrical impulses of a crab hidden by sand. Or, all theories combined.
awesome video 💗✨
Thanks for the visit
@@ProjectACHERON that’s okay 💞 thank you for the video
I always assumed the dome was its self some sort of evolved ocular device. It clearly has eye sockets in its skull, mostly from the ocular DNA of its earthly hosts or its human like hosts (The engineers). I figured, maybe the retinas, and eyeballs coagulated into the dome its self, and somehow it sees with an echo location ability. ALSO, I thought the trackers that the humans used was supposed to be a direct parallel to how the aliens saw.
Yeah i mean that very possible also. i want to redo this video at some point and fix a few things with its and make some more theories more clear.
I think they have a combination of echolocation and normal human sight (but more echo)
Yeah thats very possible.
Alien 3 had wide angle lens vision and some other frequencies in the EM spectrum. A L I E N Covenant had Adobe Photoshop Mosaic-filter vision in high HD IMAX resolution.
yeah lol
I was under the impression the original novelization if the first movie said it also used electrical fields like the lines on the sides of a fish. This is both a crude proximity sensor and a way to detect the nervous systems of prey.
This was located in the long skull.
Then again, these may also be the speculations of my college roommate. But it’s worth checking. A bit like how everyone forgets all the amazing bits at the end of War of the Worlds where Venus was simultaneously and successfully attacked by Mars, and was slowly turning red.
It was also demonstrated an alien three, a fisheye View
It can’t see in infrared like the predator cause they would get in you Alien Isolation and in the movies/books
yeah that makes sense
They clearly see in ultra violence /s
thats a really good one
in the book Alien Sea of sorrows they talk about what aliens see
yeah from their persective though so its not a good idication
More interestingly is HOW do they see?! Famously H R Giger designed them without any visible eyes with the only movie exception being the truly awful « baby-faced » Xenomorph from Aliens: Resurrection.
The fishbowl vision in Alien 3 felt spectacularly lazy. I can accept it as the camera implying where the Alien is, but as the actual point of view of the Alien it seems incredibly dull, considering both the Predator and the Terminator in films before Alien 3 had done "alien vision" so well. A xenomorph "seeing" the world almost exactly as a human does seems............not very alien at all :/
I like the ideal that they do not see as in light but can feel energy like a shark. I do not think that they can see light and may have even less ability to see infrared .
I think they see the bioelectric field combined with a strong sense of smell like a shark on Earth. This could allow them to decide the suitability of a host for embryo implantation. That's why they don't immediately attack Artificial People on sight and only kill them when they become a threat.
its all speculation no one knows and yes id' knew you would use covenant😃 but i think they sence way more than useing vison. other than that i got nothing😂
Yeah I think they have much better sensory input and detection systems that most humans!
Or real any other organism!
@@ProjectACHERON maybe they dont show up on infer red at all😏😁
Like Killer whales, Dolphins and Bats, echo location or some type of sonar, is probably how they see!! That is also a runner Xenomorph, not a regular Xenomorph!!
Echo Location. Otherwise they might be blind in the dark.
Yeah that would make sense, but i feel its more complicated that than
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Haha just went and checked it out, lol 😂
The Alien films aren't documentaries, they are art. The "vision" we get is an artistic representation to give us a POV of their fleeing victims. How the Alien sees was never all that important to me. On top of that, the whole point of having an alien be the antagonist was because it was just that, alien. Sometimes the mystery of not knowing is most of the fun. I think too many people are uncomfortable with ambiguity & the unknown. The whole point of removing the eyes that the Xeno originally had during early production was to amp up it's alien nature. Coming up with explanations is merely an attempt to demystify something that was designed to be a mystery.
Still Alien films are science fiction, which mean a mixture of both terms, some may preffer more science and others may preffer more fiction (but not only or they would be looking for fantasy)... thats what make huge differecen on the same genre, just like compare sunshine or space odyssey with avengers.
I agree that some elements are designed (or not designed at all) to not be discovered, but one of the main elements of the Alien franchise is to "decompose the alien threat and learn about it to be able to fight against it" that is the kind of thing that makes the public think about the film/franchise later was over, and even leads to reconsider the actions the cast on the movies do with what they (and the public) know when you see it a second time...
My personal tastes are that one movie of this genre needs to find the "perfect balance" where you try to lead to something new or innovative but at the same time, try to have your feet on the ground rather than use every fictional resource you can, I think thats mostly why the super hero movies ussually cannot be taken seriously by Sci-fi lovers, because they ussually create one base that you tend to follow and once the plot becomes obvious this genre tends to "break their own base" to surprise the public... things like how certain hero may have 4 times more strengh on one scene compared to another one, or how sometimes may appear suddenly some device/substance with no time on screen to totally chance the initial recipe... I think this is also very applicable talking about the Zombie genre, half is mostly based on mistical/sorcery base and the other gets science resources to portrait an aparent realistic situation (this genre is hard because human body knowledge is bigger than our knowledge about space) so reach something flesh but plausuble gets harder and harder overtime. (just the same old sci-fi films that point to a distant future may get the science part diluted with the time or "improved") like lets say the Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Seas (submarine) or even on Alien franchise, where, while the computers are clearly "diluted" for our current standards where such a retro style would not fit easily on such situation, others like the standard propulsion system that forced long travels reinforces the science factor on the movie, others are still on the "limbo" like the Cryopods, that is still a recurrent resource on this genre.
In resume, Alien had certain things made to never be known (perfect example is the space jockey in A1) but still with almost no text/lore involved on this element the artistical conception aims to "plausible"... the rest of the film tries to portray a consistent base of a crew fighting the uknown, and the more it goes ahead the more they discover about the creature so going ahead and think on "what if" is just follow the route the original film started.
* Just pointing this because the "How the Alien sees was never all that important to me"... it is not important, until it is.... remember Jurassic Park and T-rex scene? everybody expects a "typical behaviour" until this element suddenly appeared and changed totally the outcome... this also is very relevant on Predator 2, where "we all knew that predator sees on thermal vision" until it stops doing it and suddenly turning what for the public was seen as a disadvantage previously into an advantage (for the creature)
The Xenomorph in most if not all forms of it's life cycle probably have sensory organs similar in function to the ampullae of Lorenzini in great white sharks. These sensory organs detect electrical fields as minute as the ones generated by muscular and heart activity coming from prey. I could fully accept that the Xenomorph could also detect this as a means of locating prey/host and the ambient/static electrical activity from human and non-human sources, as a means of keeping their own acid blood charged by slow absorption.
yeah its pretty unexplored in canon currently, and for good reason, the less we understand about how they traverse the world the more terrifying they are
@@ProjectACHERON And the more people like us can speculate on it, lol.