The Greatest Moment In Fighting Game History
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- “For the people in the American fighting game community that were there to witness it, it was the most significant day of our lives. For Daigo, it was Sunday.”
That is Patrick Miller’s description of the subject of today’s video. Arguably one of the most famous moments in competitive gaming history, in this video, we’re going to explore the legendary meeting between Daigo Umehara and Justin Wong, and how it would change fighting games forever.
This, is Evo moment 37, the most iconic moment in fighting game history.
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POV: you've just enjoyed your reminder of moment 37 that comes up every 4 months and never ends
Lol yes
should come up EVERY month , its that significant
Fgc/Esport content creators milking it harder than Rockstar milks gta5 at this point
justin will never live this down lol
Amém to that brother/sister
I remembered that Daigo said that he had already decided to retire from competitive fighting game before this tournament, and "retire" he did.
After the tournament, he worked at a nursing home in Japan and think this might be the rest of his life. However, the heart to compete eventually bring him back to the fighting game stage, and he play FGs as his job even to this day.
If that doesn't sound like something out of an anime, I don't know what will.
That's because Ryu haven't retire yet, so Daigo can't as well
Wow that's quite cool
@@TheRatedOniChannel anything else.
since long long ago, everybody knows that reality surpases fiction.
and this moment was the most (su)real thing in all history of videogames.
unless you are Daigo. for him, it was Sunday.
He found a job at a Mahjong parlour after retiring, where he met Bonchan who would occasionally take leave to play games but Daigo didn't know about it, at one point Bonchan praised some Guilty gear player and Daigo said to Bonchan that the player he is talking about is trash, Bonchan couldn't believe, took Daigo with him the next day and everyone in the arcade was surprised to see Umehara san back , Bonchan was shocked and then Daigo cleaned up everyone and then decided to play games again after more than a year .. nice little story I found on fgc translated channel
Justin Wong was asked, “if you could go back, would you do anything different?” He simply said “no” he would have done the same thing because of how much of an impact Evo moment 37 made in the fighting game community. It got a lot of people into street fighter (including myself personally) and Justin is just honoured to have been apart of such a historical moment in gaming history.
Justin lost the battle so we could all win the war
I think the war and its aftermath was more important than the actual winner in the long run
great sign of sportsmanship
The fact that this happened before eSports was considered a thing is incredible. The play is still amazing to this day, and I'm sure that this moment easily sparked the interest of a lot of people that were there live.
2004 wasn't before eSports, guys. We were already into our 6th Quakecon, there was a HUGE pro Starcraft scene in South Korea, with spots on national TV every week.
This was early in eSports, but not before.
EVO Moment 37 will remain classic for many more years to come. it is iconic moments like these which help in maintaining enthusiasm in players of fgc and a hope that fighting games are hard but once you spend time with them you can create iconic moments like this and great respect for daigo for creating epic moment like this
Agreed.
It will never be recognized by the new "generation" of players. Especially by mobile gamers, whose "fighting games" are just a parody where all you have to do is to tap and to swipe on the screen, without any competitivity.
@@divinehatred6021 mobile gamers are not gamers, they are the cancer, sorry but its true
@@divinehatred6021 dude tf are you talking about? no one play injustice mobile competitively. There’s no mobile fgc you’re fighting the air dude.
Many more? Try forever. Its a Historical moment.
3:36 Justin's not whiffing shit for the hell of it, he's building meter. 3S isn't alone in using this type of neutral meter gain, but as far as I know the later SF games don't have that as an option.
He did use this method in his 1v3 Cyclops clip. He builds meter by air kicking, then unleash hell
It’s legitimately annoying when so many channels talk about 3S and haha funny moment three seven but have so little idea of how the game works, I was peeved just from hearing the narrator say that
@@BlueV205 It’s really noticeable when he’s playing Storm. He’s more often than not up in the air building that meter
Tbh that's a dumb mechanic.
@@measlesplease1266 no it’s not, when whiffing you’re giving openings to your opponent so you get a reward for the risk taken
i rewatch evo moment 37 every now and again and i still get goosebumps whenever i watch it
Me too man. Me too.
It's impossible not to get goosebumps from it. Such an amazing play, and the crowd going absolutely wild is just... *chef's kiss*
I've seen the Daigo parry before, but I always thought the jump was just necessary to keep parrying, I actually didn't know it was to setup a punish
incredible skill and as always, great commentary and breakdown, Akshon guys
That's how you know these guys are masters of the game. Even in games that I thought I was good at, I wouldn't have been able to (in the split second or two during the heat of the moment) plan ahead. I'd be busy trying to survive.
The heavy jump kick was necessary to have enough damage for the combo to kill. He could have standing parried into a standing hard punch into the DP, but it might have left Justin with a magic pixel.
I remember labbing some demon setups as akuma and had a retarded idea
"What if i evo moment 37 parry into demon
So parried the first two flurries of kicks, immediately, as fast as i could, input LP twice, fast enough only one comes out and just *barely* whiffs her
The last parry you stay grounded obv, it becomes your forward input, then follow through with the others
Though you have to input the other two after the parry super fast
But, it worked
The fact that he not only parried all of those kicks, but also planned a head for his counter just shows he's a Fighting game king.
Fun Fact: When people see Justin Wong online, people make an effort to 37 him again.
It has happened at least twice, and he seems to be a pretty good sport about it, and posts the clips on his Twitter.
EDIT: Did I write this before fully completing the video?
Yes.
Do I care afterwards?
No.
Dread it, run from it. Evo Moment 37 returns all the same.
He just has another clip right at Lunar NY this year, shit was hilarious
His streams are pretty well known for highlighting moments like that and anticipating whether or not someone will pull it off against him. It's pretty rad, honestly.
Hell, he and Daigo even attempted to do it a second time and failed in-tournament, lol.
- The guy that don't watch the videos.
@@Ralkila oh no, my identity has been revealed, whatever shall I do
Still gives me chills. And from what I understand, Daigo threw out Hadoukens intentionally trying to get JWong to block and build more meter. Cause he had practiced parrying the super. It’s just nutty that this is exactly what he expected to happen, many wouldn’t have even dared.
Apparently this isn't even the first time he did it in the same tournament no less (though it was in pools and there's no footage of it I think). Someone in the crowd saw that and shouted to Justin not to do super cause he knew Daigo was waiting for it.
It's hard enough to do it, I can't imagine organically having to do it twice in the same tournament on the spot.
@@sehtuk3953 3S Japanese players were on a another level back then. Chun's SA3 being parried wasn't uncommon in high level Japanese matches. While moment #37 is iconic, Justin's decision to just throw out SA3 was kind of a bad move when he had the health lead and the timer on his side. Daigo was even tapping forward repeatedly in anticipation of the super. The American 3S community had never seen stuff like this, so it blew everyone's minds. This was only back in 2004 and 3S wasn't as popular of a game yet in the US as it ended up becoming.
@@sehtuk3953 this could be a nice as an anime flashback then shout "Justin nooooo!"
@@Finfection I played in the same arcade as the #3 player in the US in 1999 and he could reliably parry Chun li SA3 as long as he caught the first hit. There was another top 10 US player at the same arcade too. I never played in tournaments but I have to imagine SA parries were very well known in 2004 and while Chun LI SA3 is a high difficulty one everybody has seen it a million times
I was a reasonably good Ken and Chun Li player myself and attempted a Chun LI SA3 parry several times but my success rate was low maybe 20% of the time assuming first parry because my parry game was mediocre at best even if I of course knew every hit and how to punish.
He wasn't even the best parry specialist in the arcade though
@@sehtuk3953 dude thats so anime
Props to Justin since the parry was done in the first game of the set, and he was still capable of taking the second game before ultimately losing the set. That's a strong mental.
That is actually really fascinating. I knew the set was tied 1-1 and this gave Daigo the win 2-1, I didn't know the rest of the rules of EVO. If there was ever a reason to go full-tilt it'd HAVE to be after that moment. To tie after the next best-of-3 and go to a third is a level of fortitude not many people in the world have.
Hey guys, we wanted to make a correction to a point mentioned in the video and pin it here for visibility. The “whiffed” normal attacks from the players as many have pointed were actually to build meter.
You did a phenomenal job! Informative in such an illustrative way! Honestly one of the best videos I have seen on EVO Moment 37! Whiffing Normals do build Meter AND are menacing because you are staying a constant threat + force your opponent to act! I will be sharing your video! Thank you!
Tell me you don't know how to pin a comment without telling me you don't know how to pin a comment. 😂
Pin your own comment, dude
"He daigoed me" make me laugh
There is a small pinch in my heart everytime I see every block being done perfectly, this is such a beautiful moment
arm-chair gamer here, so take my comment with a grain a salt. But I thought it was only a 3 frame window for the parry... it being a 10 frame window does make it a little less impressive for me. Granted in the moment, with the crowd, at the tournament, for the Win or Lose, no doubt the absolute most pressure *IS ON* ... _However_ I'm a Soul Caliber player... SC has Guard Impacts which are similar to Parrys, 10 frame window, forward and block for Mid/High attacks, back and block for Mid/Low attacks. And they will stop everything but "Unblockable Fire attacks" ... for that you need a "Just Impact" which is literally a 1 frame window, will block *EVERYTHING* and gives your next attack the "Counter" effect if it has one.
I will, with no problem G.I. (Guard impact) all day, every day, no problem, but to J.I. an attack... that's a different story. I still love this moment cause of all the pressure, the hype, the Stakes, etc. but finding out it was just a series of G.I.s basically instead of a series of J.I. type of blocks... does make it only a 10/10 moment instead of the 13/10 I thought it was.
@@James-iu2km I know it's not a 10 frame window. Based on what I've seen it's about a 4 frame window, but I am also just another arm-chair gamer here.
@@hideTheDrone so your comment made me curious, and while there is a little nuance to it, it is basically the same as the Soul Calibur 10/60 frame window to execute... at worst it's a 6/60 frame window... still huge compared to the 1/60 window for SC's "Just Impacts".
Just for reference on my Soul Calibur skill, this is an old video I uploaded demonstrating Taki's attacks that *_ALSO_* _dodge_ some attacks:
th-cam.com/video/3wV3Bm805zQ/w-d-xo.html
The red Taki is doing "Key Recorded" actions, as in I had to manually do _everything_ the Red one did, while the Purple one was just standing there and had the system record the inputs and timings, then once I controlled the purple one, all I had to do was hit the red one once with an attack that left us "Frame Neutral" so we would both start the next attack on the exact same frame... From there out, the red one would do what I previously done while I had to manually control the purple one and try to time the moves perfectly to dodge the red one's attacks, while the red one's attacks *_ALSO_* dodge mine.
*EDIT*
Forgot to link the page to raw stats for the Street Fighter 3 "Parry" system:
wiki.supercombo.gg/w/Street_Fighter_3:_3rd_Strike/System
3:36 Actually, that's not true. What Justin is doing here is the same thing other players would do, and that's whiff normal attacks to fill up their Super meter. SF3 had this feature, but SF4 and 5 don't.
Oh ok
THEY DON’T?!
@@Ramsey276one yeah, for example if you jab or roundhouse whiff in SF4/5, you get no meter. It's only if it touches your opponent on hit or block.
Doesn’t change the intimidation factor. That is building meter, after all. Going into a super that could easily chip someone to death.
@@azurethescaletipper210 no more Chip KOs
Guard break or THROW or unblockable!
PLEASE
I've lost count of the amount of times I've watched this clip and smiled. It is legendary.
Bro I'm literally an FPS player but all of those other games stories are what makes me will to keep playing, tysm for always bringing these gems up
This never gets old
Do you think you are Daigo?
He could be Daigo
Noo he is Daigo
K.O
He is Daigo
This and Wombo Combo are the only correct answers to the question “What is the most iconic fighting game moment?”
What about Justin wong's MvC2 comeback against yipes?
This is how exciting fighting games can be for people. I was only 4 years old when this happened. Didn’t even know what the FGC or Street Fighter was. Man, I feel old.
You feel old? It happened a year before my high school graduation.
I have watched countless videos on Moment 37, but none recounted the event with a way of words as beautiful as how you do it. That’s why I love this channel and everything you produce. Keep it up!!!
I remember seeing a video about the end combo he did
If daigo did any other combo it wouldn't have killed
So that was also the most optimal damage route 🤯
It wasn't optimal to lose the entire match before that
I think it's a testament to Diego's skill and adaptability for him to be able to successfully bait and punish the master of turtle style when Diego himself is known for his aggression.
it doesn't matter how many times this event discussed. I always watch it, really hype moment...
Personally, I think it's disrespectful to call it Moment 37. It's the Daigo Parry.
I agree bro
Man, this is the most legendary street fight match of all time
ALL Time
This for me will forever be the best moment in esports history.
Props to Justin for being a very good sport about this.. This shows that the games we play are always bigger than us.
Somehow I had never heard about this moment until just now. You guys made it even more exciting and impressive than it would have been if I had only seen the clip. It’s almost inhuman how perfect those ten seconds were.
And after I finished the video I went on a dopamine-fueled TH-cam binge of all the greatest fighting game moments for the next hour. So thanks, I guess.
Very good video Akshon, thanks for the context around Evo moment 37 in 2004.
Just to add a little more I don't think you covered was that this was also the moment people were truly sold on third strike because Daigo showed with his play what gameplay in Sf3 third strike looked like in full flower,
at the time ( it's obviously been bettered since, but this was the moment that showed everyone what was possible, the giant so many others built on the shoulders of as it were), and it brought a new appreciation to the game. Retroactively now everyone knows about the parry and it's potential but at the time people weren't 100℅ sold or at least people not super in the know, this moment pushed it over the edge into a new era/ standard of play.
Keep up the great work, I have been marathoning your vids in the background as I work, has all been very interesting! :))))))
This is so sick that sometimes it even brings a tear to my eyes
"He daigo me". Hahaha..glad Justin is such a good sport. Love his channel too.
Just to point out some stuff:
- Jwong wasn't the "best" street fighter player but he and Ricky Ortiz got involved in the rumble to defend America.
- The only times an American won 3rd strike was the first year of it at BBB4 iirc no internationals, Alex Valle was 1st. The only other time was Jwong but paired with a japanese player as the tournament was 2v2. So this rivalry has a strong and heavy meaning.
- To this day even with Punk in SFV and Strider, Smug, PRBalrog in SF4 things haven't changed that much, some were arguing that SF4 got a time advantage as Japan got the arcade before the home release but sfv got the release near equal in both regions. And tbh it is not about time , it is about methodology and development of skills(This would be another video on the Japan way to learn fighting games, i would do it but you have to get a lot on thought inputs on the legends and i have no contacts, also the footage some legends sure have).
- Moment 37 isn't impossible hard but it is really a precise advanced tech, people that says it is just "mashing" may be confusing things; You cannot mash forward to fish random parries out of the first one, i.e. if they opponent is throwing consecutive jabs (s.lp mashing) and you mash forward you will parry the first jab but not the second. This is because the game has a lockdown/cooldown to avoid this, there is between 18-23 frames after a parry to get another one so you have to time it and that initial jab rapid fire will be possible. On top of that you have to be in a neutral position for a parry to happen, if you mash forward while being hit there will be no parry; you have to be at least 1 frame in neutral for a forward input to be a parry-able. They may be confusing the ability to cancel in a successful parry; in a well done parry you get 16 frames of Hit Stop where you can cancel into another forward to chase a parry and this is the moment you can time faster for the chun li super multi hit sequence. In other words, those criticizing are scrubs that sometimes happen to mash and get something cool but "im not daigo this is easy" moment 38.
- You should talk to daigo about the secret legends in Japan, i remember he talking about beasts that weren't able to travel and were , in his words, stronger than him in different aspects.
Wait, are there any videos for the Japanese way of learning?
@@yedrielnegron9862 Not sure but there is bits of interviews that can lead to make something bigger. But it is a big project of investigation and translation.
@@Ralkila ah, kinda sucks but thanks!
Last part is true, but in this side of the world is pretty unknown. And some Japanese players they play for fun or closed local competition, cuz mentality they don't like to go out make it public or even travel to compete. Others don't have the resources to travel but are quite skilled
Seen this so many times, but this is the best dissection of it yet. Great video
The best executed, most encompassing and fg noob friendly documentary about EVO Moment 37 i'v seen! Great job!
Thanks!
I watch Evo Moment 37 at least once a year because of how amazing that moment was.
One of the best videos on this legendary event. Thank you!
Very well made video, I still get chills watching the legendary clip
Thanks! I've seen that footage several times but never understood exactly why it was so iconic. Now it makes sense
We all know this is quite literally the greatest fighting game moment to ever exist.
Jwong: Think you're Diago? You aint Diago.
Jwong 2 seconds after: OH NO HE DIAGO
He is DIEGO in Spain.
EVO moment 37 or the daigo parry is the definition of most iconic moment. Its like something out of a movie, the PERFECT parry for the PERFECT moment... He not only parried a 15 hit super... But he countered with his own for the win.
I remember the first time I saw Moment 37 but this analysis helps me understand WHY it is so absolutely amazing. Thank you
I've been playing fighting games since their creation and this still blows me away every single time
I've already seen every video about this moment, but I still watched. Good stuff.
No matter what games u play, as a gamer, this moment really send chills down your spine ..
I had no idea this was a thing, my friend randomly showed it to me, but holy shit, I'm blown away. You did a great job explaining it!
Imagine falling to the strongest player ever in the most iconic moment of E-sports of all time. Could have beat him. It must burn a lot, and you probably wouldn't want to relive that moment ever. Justin Wong challenges people to do the Daigo parry on him and smiles at people managing to pull it off. That's not even a competitive thing to do, it's just wholesome.
amazing use of the street fighter movie in the end haha
ive seen this moment countless times, gawked about it millions, and have attempted it multiple times myself (i can only do 4 parries hahaha), but despite that, this video about evo moment 37 was just super entertaining, as always.
i will gladly watch a couple million analysis videos about this moment in the future and will still have a smile on my face hahaha
This moment never gets old.
nice to see more FG content in your channel! hope it gets more people interested in trying to play
great video! This will be my go-to video to show to people to explain it.
This is really the best explanation of the importance of this moment!
I don't even like fighting games, yet I keep coming back to watch this beautiful sequence. Brilliant.
Always come back to this moment
This is the best breakdown of M.37 on TH-cam. Set-up, breakdown, pay-off, reference.
Nice. 😎
Thank you’
We’re just about a year shy of 2 decades. It’s surreal that this is still talked about!
I've seen at least 20 video esseys about this moment. This is gonna be one of the best ones!
Wait a sec! He has to input the first parry BEFORE chun Li's super animation starts?! That just added a whole new level of awesome to this
The sheer awesomeness, is unprecedented. Big Up J Wong and Daigo, for making a historical moment in Street Fighter.
I still have that clip on my hard drive and have since 2004.
it actually makes pros today, know many player turn pro after this evo37, also the sportmanship and skill between justin and daigo set benchmark to let later pros to extend their skill ceiling
This is actually blew my mind, I did not know about this. Everything about this moment is so perfect, it is like an anime.
Another aspect that people forget about this is that at the time, most people didn't even think you could parry Chun'li's super because if you were blocking at the time it would frame trap you into blocking it. There are so many levels to this that many people don't even know.
Daigo The Beast.
Same beast, different animal.
I've always looked at Daigo as me and him being the same beasts in our respective fields (genre) of gaming. .
The man is a legend through and through
What is amazing about this moment is this incredibly rare quality of being universally impressive. Many impressive feats in sports and esports are only impressive once you understand the game, but this moment needs no understanding, you can simply tell this is impressive
I haven’t been into Fighting Games since the 90s but every time I see this clip, it makes me want to change all that.
I really love this video and the breakdown you gave! However, there are a few points in this video that aren't accurate.
1. 4:45 You can block with no health in 3rd strike and not die. However, you can't block special attacks, like Hadokens, or supers.
2. 6:57 it isn't unthinkable that he would tap forward to parry, It's unthinkable that he was able to parry the entire thing and then land a full punish afterward.
3. The parries that Daigo performed didn't give him the necessary amount of meter to perform that combo at the end. He already had enough meter before the first parry. They did give him meter, but it was insignificant.
4. 8:13 When Chun li is vulnerable after the last hit of her super being parried, it's not called end lag, More so it is that she is still within her negative frames after the last attack because it was parried.
All the same, I love the video. Great watch!
A true master move dominated with precision and style. Legendary indeed
EVO Moment 37 was THE moment that made me fall in love with fighting games altogether when I watched it the first time in 2012. The stakes of the tournament for the loser, the pressure from the tournament, the crowd getting more and more wild and Justin actually mashing to make noise to distract Daigo and yet, nothing. Nothing broke Daigo's posture. A truly magical magical moment!
I'm always impressed by that footage of Daigo right after he did moment 37. He doesn't care what he just did, he's looking ahead, he wants to win, he must figure out how.
That moment was like the end to every karate kid movie.
Daigo is GOAT.
But, Jwong is an AMAZING sport. Gotta love how he knows how to enjoy the moment.
you make a legend inthis kind of games
I liked this video cause it not only showed the clip of the Daigo parry but it showed what the combination of all elements that made evo moment 37 not just evo 37 but evo "moment" 37. Daigo did go on to lose the tournament but every element from who they were to what they represented and the impact it had made, made it a moment in history. They were giants in their field both great gamers representing two different countries and two different playstyles and that it showed that esports could impact an audience just as much as any other sport. The fact that it was an almost impossible move in impossible odds and to make a comeback not in your hometown with people cheering against you shows the true philosophy of what Daigo wrote in his book. He said he felt discouragement as his health dropped and when he was trapped in the corner he entered a Zen like state, it was do or die. I bet Daigo was trained by Yoda "Do or do not, there is no try"
Still gives me goosebumps.
man did something legendary that echoed for almost 2 decades, capcom releasing sf6 made new players like me and veterans alike looking at clips like these again. I didn't know 3rd strike and what the inputs are but learning from the Video that you have to input forward to parry all those hits with a tight i frame window makes it even more epic, also hearing a home crowd cheer against you in a Tournament while parrying the super, Godlike.
I’ve been a fan of Street Fighter anything since the early 90s and I stumbled upon a video of this moment in the first hew years of TH-cam and my jaw dropped 😦 I think I watched it a thousand times that day 😅
Didn't see it live but remember my buddy showing me this while working at bed bath beyond during Evo weekend, is what made me a FG fan and casual player
I was just a child at that time but I don't know why, everytime I see this clip it invokes such strong emotions in me. I guess any gamer would relate 😊
Moment 37 is so chilling it gives me goosebumps every time!!! I couldn't believe it when it happened and I still can't believe it happened
Bruh, this moment will always be an iconic moment in general.
I always respected the hell out of the daigo parry but never realized how insane it is to parry before the animation comes out. Super sick video
I get hyped whenever i rewatch this clip
The 37 label ended up making this clip even more iconic. If you go on an Internet forum and even just say the numbers 37 there will be people who know what you’re talking about. “Moment 1” or “Moment #1” would just never catch on in the same way.
That’s incredible gameplay!!!
That was beautiful!!!!!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
He "diago'd" me kills me everytime
Justin said “Checkmate”
Daigo said “no u”
I can watch that play 1000 times, and I still fill the epic moment
This moment only gets more impressive the more I see it. Still my main motivation to get better at fighting games 😁
AMAZING VIDEO!!!!!!!
I get goosebumps every single time
The hand eye coordination and timing involved here is crazy
Awesome to see the home crowd cheer for an awesome match even when the one they were cheering for lost
This fight was the first footage I had ever seen of competitive esports. I became a fan immediately.
Never get tired seeing this
I swear if people keep making quality videos about moment 37 you'll leave me no choice but rewatching them religiously among all the others
"OHHH MY GOD" is still ringing in my ear to this day.