Rob Ager! What an amazing guest. Been watching his channels for many years now. Love his taste in film and his analyses so its great to finally see an interview with the man. Very cool.
I went to Liverpool in the late nineties. The city didn’t seem in a great shape. People were actually baffled we, a French family of four, had actually chosen Liverpool for our summer holidays when we were basically living four hours from the southern French coast. They really did’t understand we we had chosen Liverpool for vacation (it was almost a pilgrimage, for us, in the land of our beloved Beatles…). I remember many, many signs on buildings repeating ‘To let’, ‘To let’, ‘To let’. ! I also remember of course the Mersey, Strawberry Fields, red bricks and my brother finding Michael Head’s address (singer of the Pale Fountains, wonderful band) and being amazed that the guy had given up music altogether and did’t want anything from life besides watching football matches at the pub, with a couple of beers. Everybody was very nice. The city was beautiful in its own way -I grew up in an old industrial town in France so I have a feel for these atmospheres. I also heard it got better since. Great to hear about it and also your life and work. Best wishes from a friend of Liverpool, and of your channel.
1) So glad I am not alone in finding Nolan's films underwhelming. I like parts of The Dark Knight and I find The Prestige enjoyable enough, but I've never been able to warm to his work. 2) I chuckled a bit when you were both discussing different versions of All Quiet on the Western Front. There are three versions of it: the first is from 1930, the second from 1979, and the most recent came out on Netflix last year. I've only seen the 1930 one, which an early masterpiece of sound cinema IMO. It really made great use of sound to depict the horrors of war at a time when "Talkies" were still a bit of a novelty.
@Collative Learning Tsk tsk, it's an all time classic, Rob! We're not all perfect haha. There isn't just the sound version of 1930, but there is also a silent version made for cinemas that didn't have speakers.
Memento is the only Nolan film I really like. But it also happens to be one of my favorite films of all time. Never seen a movie that was edited in such an odd way for such a good reason. Hope Rob gives it another chance someday. I love his videos. His analysis of Kubrick films in particular.
Memento is alright. I like The Prestige better, which to me is the only very good Nolan movie. But after Interstellar I gave up on him altogether. It's even worse than Interstellar which already is insufferable.
I get the complaints against Nolan, but I adore his strict adherence to doing everything in camera. The Prestige is my favorite, Interstellar would be if it ended in the tesseract...I feel the studio made him tack on the sappy sweet ending.
Great to see these 2 together. I’ve been a fan of Rob’s work for years. My parents are both from Liverpool and can confirm the archetypal discussed at the beginning of the chat. Brilliant discussion and great to hear those accents as I’ve been living abroad for most of my life.
Very interesting conversation from start to finish. I love the part about the writing in new movies, very accurate. Nowadays the important thing isn't to convey the characters' emotions through a story, but rather to force a certain feeling to the viewer through some cliché formulas : a scene must have tension so we bring a problem out of nowhere, a scene must have a moving dialogue so we quickly write one about friendship or something, a scene must be funnier so we'll add a pun in the middle... That's why it feels so unnatural and meaningless. And all blockbusters are like that nowadays. They're not trying to build up anything. 😵💫 The part about how movies can depict what's in our minds makes a lot of sense too. Many artistic mediums have that ability, but due to their animated nature, movies are probably among the best to achieve it. It makes them a more living experience and a better depiction of our evolving imagination.
Nolan is overarrated but he does know how to do BIG cinema. The Prestige is often overlooked as one of his better ones. Interstellar is a borefest most of the time except for the space bits. I liked Dunkirk but I think its unorthodox structure made it a bit hard to get into. Tenet was just trying to be too clever for its own good and couldn't really get the audience invested in the climax.
This is wonderful. It was so heartwarming hearing of Rob's daughter and their connection through film. I had a very similar experience and it just takes me right back there. I was around 10 or so when I saw Escape from Alcatraz and loved it. Birdman of Alcatraz with Burt Lancaster is fantastic too. Loved Cool Hand Luke, All Quiet on the Western front book and the 79 movie. Twelve Angry Men is superb. Talk about masterful dialogue! So many more I would love to hear you talk about. Someone in the comments mentioned One Flew Over the Coocoos Nest. Almost no movie I've seen has moved me like that one. I have a vision of my dad deep in dissociated bliss so close to the TV on the floor and I do the same thing. It is absolutely transformative in all ways. So much more to say about Rob's volunteer work and how much they see at shelters and clinics etc. I did that for a bit and it is very difficult. There's no way I could now. Richard, I love your writing and have been hoping you would do more film analysis yourself because I've really enjoyed everyone you've done. Thank you so much for getting back on this channel. So special. Love the easy connections you make. Wonderful banter, great host. Thank you Mr Ager. The true outstanding pioneers of TH-cam make it all worthwhile. How would we survive without our therapeutic artforms?!
The absence of fun! There it is! Ironically, we're approaching in era of a complete lack of sincerity. This is coming off a decade of serious, totally-sincere, gritty films. We're pingponging between extremes of over-sincerity and a complete lack thereof, a mix that so many films made between to 50s and 90s had mastered.
Kafka has a lot of the prison movie sentiment covered. Maybe it’s some deep guilt or shame to escape ourselves, break our egos, and then earn our freedom. I like them though. Alcatraz and Shawshank especially.
Fabulous discussion. Huge Ager fan - I've been following his channels for ages. Richard - enjoyed your interviewing style. Actively listening, engaged & intelligent. Thank you!
Haha, that's not strong. Come to Liverpool and you'll find a range of scouse accents, some so strong a lot of peopple around the country can't understand what they're saying or get the lingo itself. The one that cracks me up is that a lot of Liverpool born taxi drivers seem to have developed an accent of their own.
Thank you gents! Watching this helped get me through cooking a brutal vegetable soup recipe 😜. I remember reading “All Quiet on the Western Front” in elementary school as my first palpable introduction to war. And the movie A.I. really made me rethink the hierarchy on the value of life forms. Why is carbon more valuable than silicone, for example? Who decides this, if there are unlimited life forms in the universe? This had me thinking. I also enjoyed the movie “12 Angry Men” in school which was a required film that we debated in social studies. Loved all the commentary in your YT video on these things. Thank you
Excellent discussion here! Really enjoyed it. Heard you are familiar with NLP, so I'd love to see you and Rob talk about your thoughts on NLP in detail. Also would like to see you two talk on One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Your and Rob's experiences in the fields would come strongly for discussing the movie and the novel (the movie is already renowned as well for its strong social commentary outside the mental institution context).
I use to listen to Rob all the time and even bought some of his downloadable videos on his website. Great to see him in this channel, and thanks for reintroducing him to me again.
Great interview. Delighted to see Rob give his thoughts. Would like to have heard some thoughts about the serious knobbing that went on in Eyes Wide Shut. Even more than the stuff he already did.
Forgot to mention that same guy then told me whenever he visited his psychiatrist he would get a voice telling the shrink was an a-hole. I laughed and told him that was normal and that I had the same thing with my employers.
Nice to see Rob Ager doing collaborations with others. Hope we get more of this! I love his analyses even if I don’t always agree with them; they’re well-researched and quite informative.
@@hwoarangthedoorbell a sh… is someone who has no clue , does no research , eats whatever mass channelers like that paid for disinfo agent Anger serves . Why should there be any irony ? I could as well say : „ stup.. Id…ot
@@georgwagner5916 I know what the term means. I just think it’s really cringe whenever someone uses it as a serious insult. I mostly associate it with 9/11 truthers or QAnon conspiracy types who scream it at others. If you don’t like Rob Ager, nobody’s forcing you to watch this video. If you don’t like his research, you’re more than welcome to go into detail about what specifically you think is poorly researched or what qualifies as misinformation.
@@hwoarangthedoorbell I can tell you: Ager has made several statements in his YT comments I think are dubious, in praise of the modern right wing and even in defense of Donald Trump. He also made a vide (since taken down, either by himself or by YT, I don't know) where he claimed he wasn't going to be vaccinated as he was worried about "side effects." When I brought these things up in the comments on one of his videos, he went nuts, calling me a liar and "intimidated by" him and a load of nonsense. He lied about it, I think to backtrack because YT cracked down on the deleted video maybe.
A while back I remember leaving a comment on one of Rob's videos to basically stop saying things like "I know this might be going too far here but..." or "I know people in the comments are gonna say that's going way off on a tangent"... Why? Because the next time you watch (whatever movie) - you DO notice these motifs, you DO notice what you never noticed before, there ARE hidden depths, there are many ways to interpret a scene... The guy is an expert, end of.
I've been following BOTH of you for well over a decade. Pleasantly surprised to see you both know each other. Some day, the three of us (that's Rob, Richie, and myself) will do a project together. Laugh if you want, but it will happen.
I really enjoyed this conversation- it made me laugh, introduced me to new ideas and gave me a glimpse into the life of decent person - a satisfying meal for my mind. Thank you both!!!
Brilliant long form interview. One additional comment regarding the walking during the 'briefing on the Moon' discussion around the 86-min mark. We must bear in mind that is the filming took place BEFORE we landed on the Moon, so although NASA had an appreciation of walking in reduced gravity we had not seen (or experienced) the bouncing walk so Kubrick did not have the same imprinted TV footage that we have from Apollo's 11, 12, 14, 15, 16 and 17.
I see Rob Ager's face as terribly attractive, very masculine, friendly-looking handsome head on this dude. Incredibly insightful analytical INTP mindset too.
I know what Rob is talking about. When we (American) lived in England our son had an English accent when talking with his primary school friends, then an American accent when he talked to me & his Dad
I would highly recommend a canadian movie called "Incendies". It's not a prison movie, although there are prison scenes. But it's a very strong movie, I loved it.
Great interview! While I largely agree with your opinions on Nolan, I wonder what you think of The Prestige. It has some of the problems that later Nolan films do, but for my money it's easily his most effective film.
"Star child" a little on the nose, are we Kubrick? Ha😂 it's not obvious, but I think it's key. He is saying, "we are children playing in space, brainwashed by our massive 'monolithic' television screens..." i thank rob ager for all his video analysis.
I saw a tenant in theaters when it came out, definitely a fun spectacle with the loud sound design and planes crashing into buildings. However, at the end I was left with this feeling that the story was a jumbled mess. I’ve seen it a second time and watched a bunch of TH-cam videos explaining the film and I still feel like he got a little too far up his own ass with the story. Arrival is an example of a heady sci-fi movie that plays with time, but the way all the narratives come together so cleanly makes it a much more rewarding film to sit through.
Ah, wow! I just love Rob Ager and his work, especially on the Shining! I have been watching everything! 🤗⭐️😀🙂 And - I love your work! Followed almost everyhing! 😀🤗🙂⭐️ This just have to be great, I am so looking forward! Thank you! This was a very nice friday-night suprise for my taste and heart! ⭐️⭐️⭐️ Have a very nice evning, all the best, and love from Norway 🫶
I felt like some lines in the new Mission Impossible were written by AI: "Get off my back, I'm under a lot of pressure here!" Multimillion dollar budget but dimestore writing.
Ah interesting to hear about the Simon Weston gig. He gave a talk at work the other day and he basically said everyone's just a person, just have a laugh with each other and at yourself.
Cosied up in the early hours.A perfect treat for ears that have had olive oil dripped on them for weeks. They were massaged by the beautiful sound of your voices in apparently mild Liverpool accents which is just right for a flakey Londoner(N.E.not too snotty).
That bit around 39:00 minutes where Rob starts talking about a character saying something important that you have to remember for later in the film (I think they were talking about Christopher Nolan at that point in the video), I remember when I watched Jacobs ladder and it was at the part where Danny Aiellos character was doing his chiropractor thing and he cracked Tim Robbins neck and he had that momentary vision and he said "what did you do to me" and Danny Aiello said "I had to get in there deep" and then Tim Robbins said "in this light you kinda look like a cherub" (I can't remember if that's exactly how he said it but that was the sentiment) I remember that sticking with me for a bit and then I said "that's his guardian angel". It all just kind of hit me when he said that. All that talk about Eckhart and how it was all a matter of perspective whether you were seeing angels or demons, I just knew after that scene that that was his guardian angel. I was a kid when I watched it the first time but even then I was just really into it. I've always had a fascination with strange and thought provoking movies. Also, the ending of that movie makes me cry every single time I watch it when his kid is leading him up the stairs to heaven. It's such a beautiful scene and I crack every time.
Lol, I love the fact that the beginning of this video they're both talking about being scousers. A scouser came to our primary school (In Scunthorpe) when we were kids. It was 1988 and Liverpool football team were very popular and there was also that scouse guy on Grange Hill, Ziggy. This kid was instantly the most popular kid in school, just for the way he spoke. Incredibly powerful that when you think about impressionable kids.
Hollywood has decided to hire the writers who will go along with The Message, rather than writers who have life experience and know how to write. They're mutually exclusive categories, since The Message goes against all common sense and real-world experience. Nothing but compliant nancy-boys, with nothing to contribute but an imitation of an imitation. The Alien franchise really suffers from this. The first two movies dealt with truckers and marines; both of whom say pronounce "I love you" using r-rated four letter words. The later writers mistook this for a characteristic of the Alien universe: "In the future, everybody's a dick for no reason." So, we've got the obnoxious anger and psychopathy present in every single character, making the films largely unwatchable. This is what happens when the modern writing cadre has never worked a day in their life.
I agree about Christopher Nolan. All of his films after _Following_ and _Memento_ aren’t really that interesting. Those first two are clever enough to keep me interested and both have a cool visual style.
Tell rob to check out bird man of Alcatraz. Prison movie with Burt Lancaster. I saw it as a child and loved it. Haven’t seen it since so I can’t vouch for how it’s aged . Probably worth looking into though.
Saw it again a few months back and I still think it's good. The bird raising stuff I always found charming, and actually the film is very vocal about the invisible prisons of society. My only gripe with the film is that the scripting and acting feels too noticeably staged, but it's still a good movie.
Rob Ager! What an amazing guest. Been watching his channels for many years now. Love his taste in film and his analyses so its great to finally see an interview with the man. Very cool.
Rob is the OG. He got me so much deeper into film in my late teens..
Same lol
I went to Liverpool in the late nineties. The city didn’t seem in a great shape. People were actually baffled we, a French family of four, had actually chosen Liverpool for our summer holidays when we were basically living four hours from the southern French coast. They really did’t understand we we had chosen Liverpool for vacation (it was almost a pilgrimage, for us, in the land of our beloved Beatles…). I remember many, many signs on buildings repeating ‘To let’, ‘To let’, ‘To let’. ! I also remember of course the Mersey, Strawberry Fields, red bricks and my brother finding Michael Head’s address (singer of the Pale Fountains, wonderful band) and being amazed that the guy had given up music altogether and did’t want anything from life besides watching football matches at the pub, with a couple of beers. Everybody was very nice. The city was beautiful in its own way -I grew up in an old industrial town in France so I have a feel for these atmospheres. I also heard it got better since. Great to hear about it and also your life and work. Best wishes from a friend of Liverpool, and of your channel.
12 Angry Men (1957). Filmed in black and white, set all in one room and still one of the best films ever.
Rob, and the Red Letter Media crew are the Godfathers of TH-cam imo.
Nice to hear Rob give them a respectful nod.
Brilliant conversation! I had no idea Rob and Richard knew of each other. More of this please!
This guy is a Legend, never seen film analyses like his.
43 minutes in and I just gotta say, Richard, good job getting this guy. Such a great guest so far.
1) So glad I am not alone in finding Nolan's films underwhelming. I like parts of The Dark Knight and I find The Prestige enjoyable enough, but I've never been able to warm to his work.
2) I chuckled a bit when you were both discussing different versions of All Quiet on the Western Front. There are three versions of it: the first is from 1930, the second from 1979, and the most recent came out on Netflix last year. I've only seen the 1930 one, which an early masterpiece of sound cinema IMO. It really made great use of sound to depict the horrors of war at a time when "Talkies" were still a bit of a novelty.
Didn't know about the 30's version. I only saw the 70's one.
@Collative Learning Tsk tsk, it's an all time classic, Rob! We're not all perfect haha. There isn't just the sound version of 1930, but there is also a silent version made for cinemas that didn't have speakers.
@@Mitch93 Yes, that's right! I would love to see the silent version, just to see how the film plays without that wonderful soundscape.
Memento is the only Nolan film I really like. But it also happens to be one of my favorite films of all time. Never seen a movie that was edited in such an odd way for such a good reason. Hope Rob gives it another chance someday. I love his videos. His analysis of Kubrick films in particular.
Memento is alright. I like The Prestige better, which to me is the only very good Nolan movie. But after Interstellar I gave up on him altogether. It's even worse than Interstellar which already is insufferable.
I get the complaints against Nolan, but I adore his strict adherence to doing everything in camera. The Prestige is my favorite, Interstellar would be if it ended in the tesseract...I feel the studio made him tack on the sappy sweet ending.
@@curiositytax9360 Interesting. That makes sense.
@@Fredrik-iz4ou Inception? Yeah terrible. He peaked with The Prestige and I really haven't liked much since.
Rob's brilliant, fantastic interview!
I discovered this podcast today. So interesting!
Enjoyed this! From someone who also is torn between art and psychology 👍🏼
Great to see these 2 together. I’ve been a fan of Rob’s work for years. My parents are both from Liverpool and can confirm the archetypal discussed at the beginning of the chat. Brilliant discussion and great to hear those accents as I’ve been living abroad for most of my life.
The GOAT of film TH-cam. :)
What a brilliant conversation, I love Rob and his movie knowledge
Very interesting conversation from start to finish. I love the part about the writing in new movies, very accurate. Nowadays the important thing isn't to convey the characters' emotions through a story, but rather to force a certain feeling to the viewer through some cliché formulas : a scene must have tension so we bring a problem out of nowhere, a scene must have a moving dialogue so we quickly write one about friendship or something, a scene must be funnier so we'll add a pun in the middle... That's why it feels so unnatural and meaningless. And all blockbusters are like that nowadays. They're not trying to build up anything. 😵💫
The part about how movies can depict what's in our minds makes a lot of sense too. Many artistic mediums have that ability, but due to their animated nature, movies are probably among the best to achieve it. It makes them a more living experience and a better depiction of our evolving imagination.
Nolan is overarrated but he does know how to do BIG cinema. The Prestige is often overlooked as one of his better ones. Interstellar is a borefest most of the time except for the space bits. I liked Dunkirk but I think its unorthodox structure made it a bit hard to get into. Tenet was just trying to be too clever for its own good and couldn't really get the audience invested in the climax.
This is wonderful.
It was so heartwarming hearing of Rob's daughter and their connection through film. I had a very similar experience and it just takes me right back there. I was around 10 or so when I saw Escape from Alcatraz and loved it. Birdman of Alcatraz with Burt Lancaster is fantastic too. Loved Cool Hand Luke, All Quiet on the Western front book and the 79 movie. Twelve Angry Men is superb. Talk about masterful dialogue! So many more I would love to hear you talk about. Someone in the comments mentioned One Flew Over the Coocoos Nest. Almost no movie I've seen has moved me like that one.
I have a vision of my dad deep in dissociated bliss so close to the TV on the floor and I do the same thing. It is absolutely transformative in all ways.
So much more to say about Rob's volunteer work and how much they see at shelters and clinics etc. I did that for a bit and it is very difficult. There's no way I could now.
Richard, I love your writing and have been hoping you would do more film analysis yourself because I've really enjoyed everyone you've done.
Thank you so much for getting back on this channel. So special. Love the easy connections you make. Wonderful banter, great host.
Thank you Mr Ager. The true outstanding pioneers of TH-cam make it all worthwhile. How would we survive without our therapeutic artforms?!
The absence of fun! There it is! Ironically, we're approaching in era of a complete lack of sincerity. This is coming off a decade of serious, totally-sincere, gritty films. We're pingponging between extremes of over-sincerity and a complete lack thereof, a mix that so many films made between to 50s and 90s had mastered.
Kafka has a lot of the prison movie sentiment covered. Maybe it’s some deep guilt or shame to escape ourselves, break our egos, and then earn our freedom. I like them though. Alcatraz and Shawshank especially.
Huge fan of Rob Ager! Great discussion.
😂😂😂😂 the cure for everything…rub one out…then nap ❤❤❤😂😂😂
Great interview! I think some appeal of prison escape movies is a mindset of injustice (imprisonment) to justice, freedom, and possibly redemption.
My favourite cinema analyst discussing with my favorite human psyche student. I am flabbergasted.
Thank you gentlemen
Fabulous discussion. Huge Ager fan - I've been following his channels for ages. Richard - enjoyed your interviewing style. Actively listening, engaged & intelligent. Thank you!
Always wanted to see an interview Rob Ager. Seems like a salt of the earth kind of guy, interesting to hear about his history with social work
I love "Midnight Express" so much! Saw it when I was a teen back in the 80s, and not long ago also. I love the music too.
Very interesting video! I am super happy to see Rob lived in Canada, as a fellow Canuck.
Rob Ager is the man.
1:33:20 the "never let a good crisis go to waste" philosophy.
My two favourite Scousers! I audibly gasped with delight when I saw it in my recommendations.
"Me accent is not very strong", said with a strong accent. I think it's cute, the strong accent.
Two of my favourite thinkers together, what a treat!
Haha, that's not strong. Come to Liverpool and you'll find a range of scouse accents, some so strong a lot of peopple around the country can't understand what they're saying or get the lingo itself. The one that cracks me up is that a lot of Liverpool born taxi drivers seem to have developed an accent of their own.
love Rob. he's great.
Fantastic guy!!! Very interesting, and hilarious conversation. Thanks for sharing. That was a lot of fun. ❤🖖
Thank you gents! Watching this helped get me through cooking a brutal vegetable soup recipe 😜. I remember reading “All Quiet on the Western Front” in elementary school as my first palpable introduction to war. And the movie A.I. really made me rethink the hierarchy on the value of life forms. Why is carbon more valuable than silicone, for example? Who decides this, if there are unlimited life forms in the universe? This had me thinking. I also enjoyed the movie “12 Angry Men” in school which was a required film that we debated in social studies. Loved all the commentary in your YT video on these things. Thank you
A great pleasure!
And yeah, Nolan showed his talent with Momento, and then he was 'put to work'.
Ager is a true pioneer. Grannon has a good voice. Great interview.
Very interesting. Cheers!
Nice one. Please have rob again.
So glad to see you hosting Rob :D
Eddy Murphy has a prison movie..think it’s called “life”…. It’s hilarious, and touching. I highly recommend it if you are wanting a good chuckle.
Indeed, "Life" is a great underrated movie
Much respect to ya Rob.
Excellent discussion here! Really enjoyed it. Heard you are familiar with NLP, so I'd love to see you and Rob talk about your thoughts on NLP in detail. Also would like to see you two talk on One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Your and Rob's experiences in the fields would come strongly for discussing the movie and the novel (the movie is already renowned as well for its strong social commentary outside the mental institution context).
When did this happen??
Rob Ager is brilliant! love to see him with you! Awesome!!!
I use to listen to Rob all the time and even bought some of his downloadable videos on his website. Great to see him in this channel, and thanks for reintroducing him to me again.
Great interview. Delighted to see Rob give his thoughts. Would like to have heard some thoughts about the serious knobbing that went on in Eyes Wide Shut. Even more than the stuff he already did.
I really enjoyed that lads nice one
The poor guy with the vocal hallucination telling him to have a W--k. Hilarious!
Forgot to mention that same guy then told me whenever he visited his psychiatrist he would get a voice telling the shrink was an a-hole. I laughed and told him that was normal and that I had the same thing with my employers.
@@collativelearning Those poor shrinks get a bad wrap. But sometimes......??
Nice to see Rob Ager doing collaborations with others. Hope we get more of this! I love his analyses even if I don’t always agree with them; they’re well-researched and quite informative.
Quite dis informative and well gate- kept , so the sheeple THINK they are informed
@@georgwagner5916 I can’t take anyone seriously when they use the word “sheeple” unironically.
@@hwoarangthedoorbell a sh… is someone who has no clue , does no research , eats whatever mass channelers like that paid for disinfo agent Anger serves . Why should there be any irony ? I could as well say : „ stup.. Id…ot
@@georgwagner5916 I know what the term means. I just think it’s really cringe whenever someone uses it as a serious insult. I mostly associate it with 9/11 truthers or QAnon conspiracy types who scream it at others.
If you don’t like Rob Ager, nobody’s forcing you to watch this video. If you don’t like his research, you’re more than welcome to go into detail about what specifically you think is poorly researched or what qualifies as misinformation.
@@hwoarangthedoorbell I can tell you: Ager has made several statements in his YT comments I think are dubious, in praise of the modern right wing and even in defense of Donald Trump. He also made a vide (since taken down, either by himself or by YT, I don't know) where he claimed he wasn't going to be vaccinated as he was worried about "side effects." When I brought these things up in the comments on one of his videos, he went nuts, calling me a liar and "intimidated by" him and a load of nonsense. He lied about it, I think to backtrack because YT cracked down on the deleted video maybe.
God bless Rob Ager. I am new to this channel so I would like to extend blessings to Richard Grannon as well. Cheers to you both.
I'm gobsmaked! Rob Ager is one of my favorite film analyst and Richard has helped me so much...what an astounding interview! Thank you! 😘😘😘
A while back I remember leaving a comment on one of Rob's videos to basically stop saying things like "I know this might be going too far here but..." or "I know people in the comments are gonna say that's going way off on a tangent"...
Why? Because the next time you watch (whatever movie) - you DO notice these motifs, you DO notice what you never noticed before, there ARE hidden depths, there are many ways to interpret a scene...
The guy is an expert, end of.
I've been following BOTH of you for well over a decade. Pleasantly surprised to see you both know each other.
Some day, the three of us (that's Rob, Richie, and myself) will do a project together. Laugh if you want, but it will happen.
I really enjoyed this conversation- it made me laugh, introduced me to new ideas and gave me a glimpse into the life of decent person - a satisfying meal for my mind. Thank you both!!!
Brilliant long form interview. One additional comment regarding the walking during the 'briefing on the Moon' discussion around the 86-min mark. We must bear in mind that is the filming took place BEFORE we landed on the Moon, so although NASA had an appreciation of walking in reduced gravity we had not seen (or experienced) the bouncing walk so Kubrick did not have the same imprinted TV footage that we have from Apollo's 11, 12, 14, 15, 16 and 17.
I see Rob Ager's face as terribly attractive, very masculine, friendly-looking handsome head on this dude. Incredibly insightful analytical INTP mindset too.
Been watching Rob's channel for awhile now. I love his detailed analysis of different aspects of films and the themes they explore.
More Rob Ager please. He's brilliant. 👍👌
I know what Rob is talking about. When we (American) lived in England our son had an English accent when talking with his primary school friends, then an American accent when he talked to me & his Dad
came from collative learning, great interview
12:35 My idea of a good life if Rob and the other people I watch choose the content.
Richard, you’re an excellent interviewer and conversationalist. More please. This was fun and interesting. Thanks guys.
Love it, great interview!!! Wouldn't mind more♥️
Great points on current films. Ager is great as always.
Try "Swimming Pool" 2003 with Charlotte Rampling. Not one that either of you would ordinarily choose.
I would highly recommend a canadian movie called "Incendies". It's not a prison movie, although there are prison scenes. But it's a very strong movie, I loved it.
Haha, I can definitely relate with Rob on having my feet or my foot(s) in different rooms / worlds at the same damn time 🤣🤷🏽♂️
Great interview! While I largely agree with your opinions on Nolan, I wonder what you think of The Prestige. It has some of the problems that later Nolan films do, but for my money it's easily his most effective film.
Didn't really like that one either. Watched about half of it. All his films feel gimmicky to me.
There's a lot of every problem you mentioned in every city
"Star child" a little on the nose, are we Kubrick? Ha😂 it's not obvious, but I think it's key. He is saying, "we are children playing in space, brainwashed by our massive 'monolithic' television screens..." i thank rob ager for all his video analysis.
I saw a tenant in theaters when it came out, definitely a fun spectacle with the loud sound design and planes crashing into buildings. However, at the end I was left with this feeling that the story was a jumbled mess. I’ve seen it a second time and watched a bunch of TH-cam videos explaining the film and I still feel like he got a little too far up his own ass with the story. Arrival is an example of a heady sci-fi movie that plays with time, but the way all the narratives come together so cleanly makes it a much more rewarding film to sit through.
So glad to see this happen!
Ah, wow! I just love Rob Ager and his work, especially on the Shining! I have been watching everything! 🤗⭐️😀🙂 And - I love your work! Followed almost everyhing! 😀🤗🙂⭐️ This just have to be great, I am so looking forward! Thank you! This was a very nice friday-night suprise for my taste and heart! ⭐️⭐️⭐️ Have a very nice evning, all the best, and love from Norway 🫶
Looks great 👍. 4am was a bit too early though at my end of the world to join live though 😊. Also, "The 12th Man", is an "exceptional" movie.
This was excellent. Thank you.
Been a fan of Rob Ager since the beginning, thats what got me here! Peerless pioneer. Would Rob Ager recommend some cool podcasts? TIA!
New to this channel but love Rob - here to support.
I felt like some lines in the new Mission Impossible were written by AI: "Get off my back, I'm under a lot of pressure here!" Multimillion dollar budget but dimestore writing.
Ah interesting to hear about the Simon Weston gig. He gave a talk at work the other day and he basically said everyone's just a person, just have a laugh with each other and at yourself.
Rob Ager is the best
Rob Ager taught me everything I know about film analysis
And that is not much and 88 percent disinfo. As is anything on YT. Wake up.
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@@georgwagner5916analytical skills for film isn’t disinfo
Amazing guest, this interview was way too short
We like Rob and films xxx
Last weekend I again watched Lynch's "Eraserhead" for the third time, and then immediately watched for the first time Kurosawa's "Rashomon".
Cosied up in the early hours.A perfect treat for ears that have had olive oil dripped on them for weeks. They were massaged by the beautiful sound of your voices in apparently mild Liverpool accents which is just right for a flakey Londoner(N.E.not too snotty).
👌Thanks!
That bit around 39:00 minutes where Rob starts talking about a character saying something important that you have to remember for later in the film (I think they were talking about Christopher Nolan at that point in the video), I remember when I watched Jacobs ladder and it was at the part where Danny Aiellos character was doing his chiropractor thing and he cracked Tim Robbins neck and he had that momentary vision and he said "what did you do to me" and Danny Aiello said "I had to get in there deep" and then Tim Robbins said "in this light you kinda look like a cherub" (I can't remember if that's exactly how he said it but that was the sentiment) I remember that sticking with me for a bit and then I said "that's his guardian angel". It all just kind of hit me when he said that. All that talk about Eckhart and how it was all a matter of perspective whether you were seeing angels or demons, I just knew after that scene that that was his guardian angel. I was a kid when I watched it the first time but even then I was just really into it. I've always had a fascination with strange and thought provoking movies. Also, the ending of that movie makes me cry every single time I watch it when his kid is leading him up the stairs to heaven. It's such a beautiful scene and I crack every time.
Love this guy
Thanks.
Lol, I love the fact that the beginning of this video they're both talking about being scousers. A scouser came to our primary school (In Scunthorpe) when we were kids. It was 1988 and Liverpool football team were very popular and there was also that scouse guy on Grange Hill, Ziggy. This kid was instantly the most popular kid in school, just for the way he spoke. Incredibly powerful that when you think about impressionable kids.
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Good stuff boys
Hollywood has decided to hire the writers who will go along with The Message, rather than writers who have life experience and know how to write. They're mutually exclusive categories, since The Message goes against all common sense and real-world experience. Nothing but compliant nancy-boys, with nothing to contribute but an imitation of an imitation. The Alien franchise really suffers from this. The first two movies dealt with truckers and marines; both of whom say pronounce "I love you" using r-rated four letter words. The later writers mistook this for a characteristic of the Alien universe: "In the future, everybody's a dick for no reason." So, we've got the obnoxious anger and psychopathy present in every single character, making the films largely unwatchable.
This is what happens when the modern writing cadre has never worked a day in their life.
I agree about Christopher Nolan. All of his films after _Following_ and _Memento_ aren’t really that interesting. Those first two are clever enough to keep me interested and both have a cool visual style.
Liverpool had traumatized young Ager so much he had to turn into lawful Hannibal for a living.
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Tell rob to check out bird man of Alcatraz. Prison movie with Burt Lancaster. I saw it as a child and loved it.
Haven’t seen it since so I can’t vouch for how it’s aged . Probably worth looking into though.
Seen it as a kid too, but not since. good from what I remember.
Saw it again a few months back and I still think it's good. The bird raising stuff I always found charming, and actually the film is very vocal about the invisible prisons of society. My only gripe with the film is that the scripting and acting feels too noticeably staged, but it's still a good movie.
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Wow I never knew you lived in Canada for 5 years, that’s wild! I’m from Leeds and I’m living over there atm haha