Who Should Ride A Trail MTB?
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- What is a Trail bike exactly? And is this the right mountain bike for me? The answer is probably yes, but I go into more detail in this video. Don't forget to tell me what you'd spend $500 on below and use code PUNTER15 at checkout for 15% off your first purchase at Competitive Cyclist (exclusions apply) 👉 bit.ly/2VItcyb
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these are the best videos ever dude.
Thank you!
Your competitive cyclist link for insta goes to yours Paul 🤔
They got good deals.
I would use $500 to buy a desert bike as mine is anything but...
If the highest mountain near you is 200m tall. Buy a trail bike.
-me
Mine is closer to 200 cm. Honestly!
I disagree
Doesn't sound like much of a mountain... We do ~400m just riding up the spruit (green belt), in the middle of the suburbs. If we head out to the mountains... That's some REAL elevation!
@@JimEckhardt thats his point...
@@th_js I really want to buy a 165 140 mountain bike what bike do you have? And do you have a lot of elevation near your house? I have hills but not mountains (the Ozarks). Would this be too much bike?
I'd buy a truing stand so I can learn the dark arts of wheel building and more tools for my bike cave lol
It really is considered a DARK ART. LOL not all know about it.
Amazing cinematography and editing Paul!
Paul: yeah my trail bike has 150 mm travel
Me *crying in hardtail*
Just put a 130 fork on my budget hardtail, honestly, the lack of rear suspension is not really what's holding the bike back.
When?
@@theskyisblue8979 several weeks ago. I’ve already gone and superseded most of my PR’s on my local trails already, the front fork alone feels like it’s just deleting anything in front of me. The rear still rattles something but honestly the rear wheel just follows what the front one does anyways so I’m able to fly down trails I couldn’t previously.
@@slicershanks1919 No when did I ask 😂
There are plenty of hard tail trail bikes. They aren’t all FS
Great vid Paul. I love watching you. Whenever I see your video I click on it like it’s an add for a free bike.
Haha 😂
To whom it may concern,
What I would buy with the 500 dollars:
1: Not using a torque wrench is not fun, and my mom doesn't want to get one because of the cost. Having a torque wrench would be super nice, although I have become quite good at determining torque values by feel.
2: I would also buy shin pads because my pedals have ripped huge chunks of skin out when my feet slip off of them.
3: I would get a new saddle because my current saddle is bent to the point when I sometimes slide off
4: I want to go Shimano for my bike, but my parents would never let me spend that money on a bike drivetrain. The sram sx that I have is definitely showing its age, although it has worked well for 2000 miles in the past 6 months. I would buy an SLX drivetrain, and then I would FINALLY be able to have my shifter and brakes set up correctly because my bike has Shimano brakes, so I would be able to mount them to an SLX shifter.
5: I would buy some proper clothes because I sweat like a pig in Texas weather lol
6: I would buy proper tires because falling down in corners with lightly treaded tires is not fun...
7: Having a shorter stem would be helpful as an 80mm stem isn't the most confidence inspiring
8: A heart rate monitor would be greatly appreciated so that I can train properly for upcoming races
But honestly, you should consider give the 500 dollars to somebody who probably deserves it more :)
If you didn’t get this $500 you deserved it.
@@Lucas-hk6gn Well it has been a while... but I have since got all the items on the list (and have enjoyed all of them)
I'd be buying anew set of dh brakes because mine are cross country brakes on a heavy hitting downhill bike
Great content again Paul 😊 For some reason lately I have been considering on changing my stumpjumper to an Ibis ripmo af because most of the people are going into the enduro discipline kind of a bike. But then because of this vid of yours it somehow make me reconsider things. By the way the cinematography of this video is superb! 😀👍 Thanks again Paul and ride safe always! 😀
Nice one!
the new stupjumper seems good with 140 130
I would try both you may be surprised on how well the Ripmo pedals up the hill with dw links. So its really a trail bike with the enduro attitude
Check out the new Stumpjumper Evo, it is like a hybrid of a trail bike and an enduro bike. Ripmo is similar. The Ripmo climbs extremely well and is rock solid stable on descents. The new Stumpy Evo is still a good climber, but is very poppy and playful too, so it has the geometry and almost as much travel as an enduro bike, but rides like a trail bike.
@@davidmoshel This is what I have. I ride with friends that have 170 in front, and I feel my bike has everything. They may have a bit more leeway, but this bike handles it very well. I have not tried the Stumpy EVO, which would be my choice if the terrain I ride was gnarlier.
Baby Baby! $500 would definitely get me a nice set of handlebars! Thanks for the opportunity to win.
Great video as always by the way!
Paul: talking about 140mm of travel
Me: crys in 75mm on my trek 820
Stop crying and demo a new bike. They are amazing. Look around the web you can get a great deal on newer bikes my friend.
I have
I just got back from a bike shop and am currently saving up for a new bike
Ben Jilek Right on! I was in the same boat
I feel you bro. Used to have a Trek DS 8.5 with 63mm of travel. I put some 2.2 enduro tyres and it was a death machine 😂 Got myself a second hand GT Sensor and loving life 🤟🏻 Good luck bro
i reccomend you look at cube
they have great price and its german quality
Paul: everyone is overbiked
Me: riding downhill on a 115 travel bike
Sam Villa my current bike has 60mm of travel. That’s nearly full rigid at that point. ;-)
How about no wheels beat that
@Mike H are you riding a gravel bike that has room for XC tires and routing for a dropper?
Only 45 seconds into the vid and I had to stop a say wow. It looks like you’re riding in a painting. 💯👏
I hope you do a "who should get a hardtail"
Somebody who has knees of steel
anyone with a good back, neck, so not me. at least for offroad use, but if that's not an issue a hardtail is nice, but more fatiguing, but got more gentle riding a hardtail is nice,
many get a hardtail as a shopping, commuting bike, that they can take for a mtb ride too. that's the only use I could get from one. the rear shock makes a huge difference for me. even easy xc trails are too much for my back.
Poor people
@@gw4yn Laughs in s-works epic hardtail pro
Laughs with a specialized fuse expert
I recently upgraded from a bread and butter trailbike to a super long, aggressive and progressive Enduro 29er and I don't regret it for a second. With geometry evolving, these bikes are still super versatile and capable of all day epics, while simultaneously being super capable. The "category" is arbitrary, geometry and suspension is what's relevant. That and skill - obviously. 😉
What bike did you buy?
I have a 150mm 29er but i wanna experience a big bike so im building a 170mm 27.5..i dont have problems climbing up or hiking up hills.. the fun starts on the descent
" The "category" is arbitrary, geometry and suspension is what's relevant. " Couldn't agree more.
@@ericthebikeman8559 2021 Commencal Meta AM 29.
@@HeretiCflow thats a trailbike 😆
Beautifully done with this video~ love the genuine honesty here & professional opinions backing up the simple facts!
Random thought.. I could almost see this same argument for a Golf club.. one club to rule them all.. I’m a Golf Professional that teaches regularly when I’m not mtb YouTubing.. but a little bird told me you were starting a Golf channel..? If this is true I wanted to share my dream with ya.. perhaps one day being able to do the worlds longest golf hole.. call it “Enduro Golf” ⛳️⛰🚲🏌🏻♂️💨 one club.. one mtb.. one Looooooong Golf Hole 🕳
Okay random daydreams aside, love these finer detailed product equipment evaluations! Big thumbs up 👍🏼
I was on the fence between an Ibis Ripley and Rimpo early last year. I was stoked on the Ripley but got swayed into buying the Ripmo because I didn't want to be underbiked. Turned out that I really did not like that bike. Was not nearly as playful as the Ripley and climbed much slower. I ended up selling it a month after I got it and bought a Ripley. Best choice ever. The bike can handle anything my skill level is up to tackling. The Ripmo is definitely faster on the chunky fast stuff, but I am 100% willing to sacrifice a bit of speed for an overall more enjoyable riding experience.
I ride my 120mm hardtail everywhere, I think it's kinda boring to have a crazy 170mm enduro bike on most trails around the world. Unless you live in BC on the west coast or in the alps or something you'll be just fine with a shorter travel bike. But on the other hand people should be able to buy what they want to as long as you enjoy your bike it's all good.
Hi paul! I'm from Scotland so I would spend the money on winter clothing like fox defend trousers as I still wear shorts. I would also get cushcore because I ride a hardtail and I think I would benefit from the rim protection. Cheers!
I would put the $500 towards some mountain bike shoes, and some tools and kits to work on and fix my own bike. That would help a lot because I am always taking my bike to the shop and then I cannot ride for a week. Thanks for this amazing opportunity and it would really help to have tools to fix my bike when broken! Thanks
Buy one their defo worth it
They’re *
140mm front 130mm rear, super short chainstays and slack head angle = fucking perfect
@@frankiemazzei8882 💯%
My wife is just getting into riding so I’d put the money towards waterproof clothes and pads for her! Thanks for the great content
Budget some money for professional coaching/camps if she is interested and you can swing it, especially all female camps... game changers!
SImP
Owning a Ransom, I guess you only ride your Genius to the butcher's.
Cycling looks like sexuality. At first we had the road bike. 100 year later mtb has been emerged. Now you can find a whole spectrum of bike types. Dirt, street, slopestyle, XC, XCM, AM, trail, fat, enduro, downhill, recumbent, tandem, art, 4x, road, fitness, gravel, CX, trekking, cross, randenneur, time trial and who knows what kind if hibrids do exist.
I'm recently getting in Gravel Riding, so I would probably get a GRX setup.
What a debat ;-) In my area, Europe Netherlands, even a trail bike is considered 'over spec-ed'. Everyone rides XC type bikes wearing Lycra. My 130 mm. Canyon Neuron with Nobby Nic tyres is the definition of a tank...
Hi paul, If I won the 500 dollars I would spend it on troy lee designs sprint pants and maybe a fox proframe
If I was the most lucky person in your big audience, first of all, I would be amazed to be the winner, and I'd need a few hours to scream around the neighborhood before I could calm down. Then, I'd definitely spend my money on the new Oneup dropper post and get rid of my pesky, unreliable reverb, get some new MTB specific shoes so i stick to the pedals like glue, a new 11 speed XT derailleur because mine is still running strong but is beat up and could use a refresh, a new chain and cassette would be awesome too! And if i have some money left over I'd probably get some warmer gloves so my fingies don't get cold riding in the winter! Maybe I'd get some michelin enduro tires and new pads for my shimano brakes instead of something since my old tires are way past the replacement point :)
I would spend the money on A giro tyrant helmet as well as a pair of 510s
7:28 - I do not get why people would say you need enduro for this and that you need 150mm + suspension for this.
Seems like hardtail XC with slacker angle and 100mm suspension would easily ride that.
I would love to get oneup edc tool and edc pump and POC jersey, POC knee protectors, POC gloves and POC shorts. Hope I win
I’m 12 and have been mowing lawns for about a year now and altogether I’ve made about $600 and wanted to spend that on a key capable exxy bike but something capable is about two grand and I need I also need money to spend on gear like a helmet and gloves but also I would want some tools
If I won the $500, I would get the Leatt DBX 4.0 riding pants and the Bell Super DH full face helmet
Great content in the video Paul. Needs to be broadcasted far and wide. I think too many people get caught up in what's hot, not what's best for their particular situation. The point about terrain dictating the bike was spot on. I have bikes from 100 mm travel to 140mm travel and head tube angles from 66 to 69 degrees. Where I do 95% of my riding, bikes with the steeper head tube angle are actually better than the slacker one. A lot of the local trails have extremely tight turns that weave in and out of the trees and involve lots of peddling.and not a whole lot in terms of downhill and steep stuff. So XC leaning geo beats out the slacker enduro geo on those. Can I manage it on the slacker, more travel bike? Yes but it isn't nearly as enjoyable and is a lot more work. Now when I go to the steep and technical stuff, the slacker and longer travel bike really shines and it's the one I take. If I could only keep one of my bikes, I'd keep my 130mm, 67.5 degree HTA bike. It will do well enough on both ends of the trail spectrum for where I do all my riding and is perfect for everything in between. If I lived where you do, I'd keep the 140mm 66 degree bike.
I would get a new helmet because mine is old and worn out, a new bag because it is 10+ years old and uncomfortable, a new saddle because I have a cheap plastic one and finally a set of ergon grips.
Come on back Paul, We're all still waiting for you !!!!!!
If I'll win the 500 dollars I'll buy some better weels co's my weels are have some big cracks and they are also bent so that's pretty suck
Sure, less travel = higher perceived speed. That's why I go with downcountry :D
I ride a marin rift zone 2 (not carbon ) it has 130 mill of travel and on the English trails it rides mint especially on jumps
I have myself a 100 mm cannondale and tbh there is very little I can’t do on the average trail. If you pick the best line then you will usually be a-okay. Skill certainly plays a part. Just move up if you keep bottoming out.
I would definitely use the money on clothes and mtb shoes, my mom is sick of cleaning my jeans full of mud and watching me ruin shoes
I would grab a new dropper post (most likely a one up) a new rear rim because my current on is smashed and a front tire (wild enduro or assecai )
I have met people that bought Enduro instead of Trail and said the same thing, too much bike, even the extra travel in the forks makes it more difficult for them rather than helping.
I want to upgrade my dads bike cause it pretty beat up and I want to put the money to that.
having tackled the horsethief drop-in on my "enduro" bikes AND my 115mm trail bike.... I will fully admit that I'm totally overbiked most of the time XD lol
I would put my $500 toward a trek top fuel ex 5! I love the darn thing! That's why I watched this video because it is a trail bike!
Great video by the way!
I would spend the 500 dollars on gear as I spent all my money on my new bike. And am freezing outside🥶 and need some mtb shoes
If I got the money for Competitive Cyclist, I would buy a new chainring, some new pads, a hydro-pack, and a new helmet for my GF! I'm loving the videos and I'm really enjoying getting into mountain biking. Thank you for answering the technical questions some of us who are new might be afraid to ask. Keep up the awesome work!!!!
Hi Paul, I am a fourteen year-old Floridian shredder looking to make the ride more enjoyable, safe and stylish. I would buy a helmet since I recently lost mine and am riding with a safe but uncomfortable Walmart helmet, a hydro bag since mine is a little bulky, some race face chesters so my legs don’t get ripped up from aluminum, and knee/shin pads so my legs definitely won’t get get ripped up, I would also buy some comfy socks just in case Florida gets under 60 degrees this winter😂. I would also get some lock on grips a mud guard, some oil slick bar ends And finally I would get some nice deity bars. Thank you and great vid!
Forgot to mention I loved the explanation in the video and you have a new sub! 🤟
I’m new to mountain biking and I wish that I could spend a little more for myself and I have a trail hardtail that I want to progress on. My parents just don’t really understand the concept of mtb gear so I would love to spend that 500 on buying some gear and clothing for mtbing. It would help so much if you can help me Paul.
I would buy a better bike. Mine is to small for me😁😄
Either some carbon parts or a marzocchi bomber z2 fork
I'd spend the $500 at competitive cyclist on a solid full-face helmet and some body armor to match my enduro bike... haha Great video, I love those Squamish rock rolls!
Id use the money towards my next bike. Currently running a Trek Marlin and saving for a YT Jeffsey
Good stuff bro! One of my friends rides a jeffsey and loves it!
Been dreaming about some new carbon wheels for my Santa Cruz 5010 - the $500 would make a good down payment!
A Park Tool bike tool kit and a POC helmet!!
With $500 on competitive cyclists I would buy a crank brothers multitool, new grips, a new seat and new dropper post lever. Great video by the way really enjoyed it!
I would get a better drivetrain and brakes
I would probably buy some new tires, grips, and fork decals.
With the $500 I would like to get some new pads for me and my dad as I have grown out of mine and his are falling apart. I would also like to get a new helmet because I have had my current $15 helment for 6 years and it has experienced many crashes. Thank you for the opportunity.😁😁
Hooray for trail bikes. Too bad you can’t bring yours down to FL this winter.
Here is my list(I have just recently gotten into mountain biking and love it I am using a very cheap used $200 bike)
1. Pedals, right now stock pedals are what I am using(pretty self explainitory)I would get composite ones most likely Chester's. $50
2. Tires. The traction right now is very bad. I slide around all the time it is also my brakes a little bit but a lot is my tires. $150 ish
3. A new helmet, right now the helmet I am using is a helmet from my grandfather. It is good but a tad bit loose. It also doesn't have a visor which I would like for extra protection. $70-$150
4. Googles, it is winter now. It gets muddy and when you ride for long periods of time your eyes sting and get really dry I dont have googles yet but it would be great to get some. $30-$50
5. Grips, right now I am using stock grips. They slide around and leave this weird stuff on my hands. $20-$30
6. Some winter appearal. I dont really have anything to keep me warm while I ride right now and it would be really good to get some. $50 ish
7. Stem, right now I have a 70 mm stem. I would personally like a shorter one. Most likely 35 mm to 45 mm. $50 ish
8. I would contribute the last little bit to protection. Knee pads and stuff like that. I'm not sure how much it would cost.
That is all I would buy, I love mountain biking and whoever you chose deserves it. Good luck to everyone.
Hey man, do you have a video about building a trail MTB? I currently have an XC setup MTB. Wanted to learn if there are specific geometry I should consider when getting a new frame, I'll probably pick a hard tail.
i am seriously stuck between a nukeproof reactor, and a mega. I currently have a vitus sommet and feel like thats a bit too much travel (170/160). But i feel like the (140/130) of the reactor just wont be enough for trips to wales (i currently ride at small push-up bikeparks and places such as the surrey hills). What bike do you guys recon i should get? (out of the reactor and the mega)
I think I would definitely get some Shimano SLX brakes, Shimano PD-ME700 pedals, and a pair of Pearl IZUMi Canyon Cycling shoes.
Well Paul great Video!
I would spent the money in a new Bike i got 600€ here so the money would be perfect. I want to buy a XC because my last one is from 2010 and already completely broken.
There seems to be an elimination of a bike category. Just a few years back, the next bike in capability after the trail bike, was the “all mountain”. The enduro category absorbed the all mountain, bike category.
I would buy a new helmet for myself because the one I have now isn’t the for the stuff I do and some protective gear like knee and elbow pads. The $500 would be amazing for that stuff!
i would get some ride concepts a new helmet and some tools
I'd like that tire gauge, new grips, 780 bar and some new brakes. I'm half way through upgrading my brakes, just need the rear brakes. I've bought new fronts and rotors but haven't purchased the rear brake yet.
paul my trail bike is a hardtail,and i think its enough for me to train my self
I got a trail bike as my first MTB this past summer, Santa Cruz Hightower CC. It seems like it has taken lots of cues from enduro world like you talk about here. Overall, I've been super happy with it and having a blast! I also love the chaps mention about reaching "the limit" of the bike at lower speeds/intensities but still feeling it be intense; it resonated with my mid 30's aging body :D
That drop at 7:40, can do on XC hardtail (~13kg) with 100mm fork, but with a dropper engaged. :)
Hi Paul my name is Luan just the other day I broke my back wheel and I can’t ride witch sucks heaps not being able to ride my bike 😥 so if I got the 500 dollars I would spend it on a new back wheel
Great video Paul, still tempted to go for an Enduro, but I love to have my assumptions challenged! If I were to win the $500 I’d be choosing a new helmet and lots of tools to keep my new trail / enduro (????) bike tuned for all the riding I’ll be doing🙂
The more suspension bike are great to push your skills, the lesser suspension bikes are great to perfect your skills, or to make trail challenging again.
And even if i ride 99% of the time overbiked. that 1% of the time i am trying something new and scary i am so glad my bike overbiked.
I would buy a new helmet and a bike repair stand, so that I can better learn how to work on my own bike.
I still think my 160-160 specialized Enduro is perfect for me.
Great video! I ride a 2021 kona blast hard tail...with....100mm travel 😆 Chk out vids..Langley BC
I would buy some 5 ten freeriders
If I will have $500, I will buy a superior bike fit for cross country. I will buy a more aggressive bike when I have the skills.
I would buy a new oneup handlebar, a new fullface helmet, a multitool for on trail repairs and last but not least a new chain, since mine wore out.
I would spend the money on some nice knee pads bc I don’t have any and I always fall on my knees and also a full face helmet and a chest plate for when I will do some gnarly stuff
A new full face and new riding shoes. My vans aren’t cutting it atm :(
Followed both, if I were to win, I would buy some 4 piston breaks. Not sure what ones yet
Trail bikes in 2010:
30-32mm fork
69 headtube angle
Super high seat tubes
High bottom brackets
Sub 30lbs sketch
Narrow bars
Just ordered my first MTB in 9 years. Obviously the tech in the industry is immensely different. I live in San Diego which is super rocky in a lot of areas. My last bike was a 2012 Trek Fuel ex 8 which I understand is closer to their Top Fuel of today. To the video's point, the new EX is a Goldilocks of the assortment. I'm not looking to bomb hills on every run, and as someone with an XC background, I feel a Trail bike is absolutely the way to go. Lighter, more manageable as the video states. I do have friends, however, who feel I should go with 170+mm of travel but I'm feeling good about my decision going with a Trail bike. Great video.
Im getting a new used bike and i would love to get a fresh drive train for it from competitive cyclist!
With $500 I’d pop some tags on some drivetrain items maybe some new brakes. Oh the possibility’s.
Paul, you’re preaching to the choir! I have both types of bikes and have been waffling between the two for a few years😁 Currently trying to maximize the trail bike’s ability since I think it’s more appropriate for 80% of what I do. And, as far as the promo...170 mm dropper post and tire inserts. Awesome video! Thanks👊🏻
I'd use the money to buy a new full face helmet that's alot more breathable
Tacx Deva Bottle
CamelBak Podium
Lezyne Tech Drive HP
WTB Deva Titanium
Oakley M2 Frame
POC Tectal Race Spin
ps.. you linked your insta not Competitive Cyclist ;)
I would ride that steep rock feature on a fully rigid bike. It's 95% rider skill. Suspension has little to do with it.
I'd get the OneUp Dropper V2 and the E*THIRTEEN TRS Plus 11-Speed Cassette. Any money left over would probably just be spent on gloves or something. Keep up the great work Paul!
If, I had $500 I would probably buy my brother some volume spacers, and face face grips for christmas and buy something's to upgrade my mountain bike like a bashguard and a new dropper lever and some new pedals, and maybe some more things for my dad for his bike.
I really like where you are taking this channel. I hope you can keep this type of content coming. We have more than enough "Guy with a van rides another trail" videos. Well done.
I definitely buy a little protective gear
One of the best video I saw for that topic on TH-cam. Good job mate!
I ride my Nicolai/Geometron G1 in various terrain and trails and I never felt it was too long or too slack. but I pretty much agree wit the rest.
many ride bikes that are overkill, some are under biked some over biked.
but where I live there is terrain where a enduro bike is great, but probably overkill for most trails, but I ride the ganglier trails too.
so far on most rides I use 150mm of travel out of the 170mm, but nice to have a safety net of extra travel for me anyway
but if I were not riding those gnarly trails and I would just ride a trail bike.
but it's an important message that modern trail bikes can handle this type of terrain.
my new bike is much easier to ride but that's due to the geometry even it's heavier it's much easier, so people need to make sure their bike fits.
I don't have a proper bike nr 2 yet.
Trail bikes have shorter travel for the same reason they should have 27.5. They are meant to be all around playful bikes. Not meant for speeding through the double black tech trail at the bike park. It really saddens me that so many are switching to 29'' only just because people don't know what a trail bike is for and what an enduro bike is for.