Safety Sally LOVES us NOW - Building Stair Landing - Couple Builds Dream Home
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- We are building the stair landing to our apartment over the garage, in this episode of our Couple Builds Dream Home series.
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Nailing through not good enough, hangers both sides. Rim joist i think its called.
It's called a Rim Joist and you should put joist hangers on that side too.
Please please put some hangers on the outside also. I know I'm an entire winter late, but better late than never
That bolt and bracket... Genius! Thank you. That was the only real concern I had. Personally, I would also add joist hangers on the rim joist. (Outer joist.) Those not only hold the joists vertically, but they add 'gription' to help keep the rim joist from separating from the ends of the floor joists. Those nails are good for vertical strength. (Shear.) But do noting to keep the rim joist from moving outward horizontally. And yes, it does happen.
You need to finish water proofing the exterior plywood , before you attach any structure to the plywood !!!!!!!
Vibrating the concrete in tubes would have let air rise to top and make columns stronger and smoother.
You need joist hangers on the outside rim joist. Also at min. Corner brackets to mount rim joist to posts
The outside framing member that the floor joists tie into (opposite of the ledger board) is called a RIM JOIST or it can be called a BAND BOARD. Also was good to hear you correct yourself on the plural of joist: "joists" ... and not as you were calling them at first "joist-es." Lol. But all of this is nick-picking nonsense ... call them what you want to, because you are doing a fantastic job. Keep up the good work!!!
Rim joist
You probably should put Joyce hangers on the Rim joist as well. Those are called concrete pylons... you remind me a lot of myself. I do things a little outside the box, from the way other people do but it usually turns out just as good or better. You’re doing a great job and I enjoy watching you and your families, videos.
P.S. Put some black seal tape on the tops of your Joyce. It will protect them from water damage.
Nice job on the garage/rooms. Tip, before you place the decking add some metal Z flashing to cover the ledger board and extend up under the siding. You don't want water running behind the ledger board, it will rot the OSB and back of the ledger despite the house wrap, it just can't dry out. Another touch I saw the other day at my local lumber supplier was a self adhesive water proofing tape you place on top of the deck joists before adding the deck boards to keep the joists from rotting on the top edge. Cut strips of ice&water shield or window sealing tape would do the same.
Right on. I'm redoing a stairs that wasn't flashed properly. Lasted for 30 years but I've had to replace a lot of osb and sister in some studs. And, of course, replace some cedar siding. OMG have you seen the price of cedar siding?
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should the floor joist have joist hangers on the other side as well?
Not necessarily but it will not hurt.
@@786otto Oh absolutely they should. There's not a jurisdiction that would pass that balcony/deck without them!
It would be easy to add them still.
@@68Jaguar420G Good thing in Idaho you can build your house however you want!
@@fusi0nn Having no regulations or inspections thus "allowing" sub standard practices doesn't mean they are acceptable and should be undertaken. This is a quite high landing and it is only a matter of time before the nails loosen and the structure fails. Standards and "best practices" are the result of lessons learned from failures which have almost always resulted in injuries and often death. I most fervently hope Marty has installed hangers at the rim joist end of this landing so his family and visitors are spared unacceptable and quite frankly immoral risks for the sake of a few dollars of readily available and easy to install hardware.
In my Armchair world of OSHA and building codes we have to have diagonal bracing on porches (posts) OVER 10'. The stain on the deck looks great and I use grating for drains to replace a deck board where the snow falls off the roof so it goes right thru. Plans we don't need no stinking plans.
Thanks for the info!
I agree with a landing halfway down if that isn’t already in the plans. One long stair run would take up a lot of space
No matter what you do or how you do it you can guarantee someone online knows how to do it better, and they’re never shy about letting ya know. 😂
Post first Yes. But I'd go 6x6 because you're higher up than 4'
I have watched all 94 of these videos and you guys have impressed me. I love watching these videos and how your family has all learned together and built together. looking forward to more.
I know absolutely nothing about building a house but I do enjoy watching your videos. You have an amazing family and you work so well together. May God bless your endeavors and stay safe. 👍🏻
Thank you ❤️
You’ll are doing a wonderful job and the Lord is really blessing you.
On the landing I would put joist hangers on that sides.
Oh the front of the landing you will need to beef that board up with another board cuz your step stringers willbe attached to it. That board will take all the weight of the steps and people going up and down it.
I'm concerned that your joists will quickly rot not being pressure treated.
Yes, they will...
All your hardware at the house looks fine. Why no joist hangers on the outside band joist??? Oops!
The big problem which creates most deck collapses is the post to deck connection.the post should have been notched to accommodate your deck joists! A ledger can never be replaced with mechanical connectors. Sorry Martin, you'll need to fix this.
could he use that same L bracket bolted through the 4x4 beam as a makeshift ledge?
You can add 2x4 pt to the posts vertically ending under the header so it is supported. You can’t rely on hardware through the header and into the post.
The ledger, rim boards, and joists should all be treated lumber.
Unless you're using some sort of non shrinking (not pine) or old wood, don't space the boards with anything (like nails). They'll shrink more than enough, and with that spacing you'll end up with gaps wide enough for a chair leg to fall through.
Put joist hangers on the rim joist Marty!
hey marty..yore boy is almost as big as you..you should be so proud of him
Personally I would use joist hangers
Need hangers on outside as well
Proud of your effort to be safe . I can sleep better at night!
A 4" drop from inside floor to deck floor would really help to keep snow from getting inside when you open the door.
Posts look good, would suggest bracing, long way up, and notching then to support the landing.
Rim joist your doing a great job
I would seriously recommend a garden hoe for mixing concrete. Mixing with a shovel seems way harder to do!
I always used joist hangers on both ends of the joists.
Great work again. I love the way that you simply tell the viewers when you're not too sure how to do things. The end result from the effort so far is extremely effective. It just shows you that you don't always need to be a mathematician. The truth is, I would most likely do it exactly the same way.
Question: since the forest and your property (flat area) you're building on is mostly in the woods.. would it be possible in the future to add some fencing?
Hope you're all doing well? ..lots of indoor projects i hope..this winter?
stay safe and warm.. GOD BLESS.
The board is called a rim board.
Safety Sally is the job site version of Karen.
I absolutely never touch or see snow in my real life 🥺🥺🥺
As a contractor I must say ya'll are doing a great job. That is exactly how I built the decks I've done.
This is awesome. And it’s really great you can do this as a family. Was wondering how possible something like this might be with a bunch of kids, and this is very heartening. Thanks for sharing your progress!
Good idea about using the support post for the railing. I would recommend using 48 inches fromthe deck surface to the rail cap. Don't forget to use 45 degree bracing. Check out April Wilkerson building her large stairs. Very much exactly what you are doing.
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Typical bush league weekend builder. I don't know any codes that allow rim joists to be supported by thru bolts. Rims, beams, etc. must be supported by direct bearing UPON supporting members. Next time hire a professional.
I wish you all the best Pak Martin. Still enjoying to watch your incredible works with your amazing family. Stay safe, Stay healthy, all I can do is just supporting by unskipping all the ads :D. Can’t wait to see your next update videos. Salam :)
wow..it just happened overnight. what a beautiful sight. .. prestine snow ! nothing here in my country : Philippines
Hello Mr Johnson & Family, Think we would of did the same to Both Sides Bolted it to the wall then you don't have the board running along the back wall.. just think it would one look better and two think it would be stronger.. BUT What you Will Need / Should Add to Roof is SNOW GUARD'S lol( not yelling just wanted it to stand out in comment.) will keep Snow from Falling in to Steps or Someone walking down or up at the time of it falling.. And was cool in video that you did showed different thing's by walking out giving chickens water etc. just them couple of things made the video, a little touch of living on making a homestead.. So we Thank you all for your Time.. And we will be here for the next 1
LOL man you were not kidding they are a wealth of information here.. It's like being punched from all sides.. poor Martin.
Lookin' good Martin. At least run a 2x4 under the rim board joist to catch them. You probably have one laying around. Simple fix and doesn't cost you anything but time. I know it isn't code, but it will help.
The more Joist hangers and Bolts you use to secure landing the better,!! make it wide enough to get furniture up to top floor, doing a great job, Hope safety Sally approves, Thanks for the video from UK, 3.30 in de afternoon.
It is recommended to use joist hangers on the outside rim joist as well. Not sure of your local building code for freestanding deck pillars, most codes require 6x6 posts. You can use braced 4x4 as long as they don't exceed 10 feet height as 4x4 deck posts are notorious for twisting and racking. Recommend using cross or diagonal bracing on the corner 4x4s. It's better to be safe than sorry.
Hi Martin, I always wait for your vlog, it is always interesting to watch it and the fact is I don't mind if your vlog is an hour long.. Lol
Now "I" would have done it so-o-o much different! It would have cost so-o-o much more; there would have been many trips to the ER; there would be a slope in the flooring "toward" the house; there would be several "catawapuses(?)" to win the "Abstract Art Award" in Building AND it will fall down by days end. The board that holds up the floor joist is called "Board that holds up Floor Joists". ;-) Art in Calif.
your son is a great helper. You have a beautiful family Martin. love your videos keep smiling always a thumbs up
Concrete cylinders. Just a suggestion please put joist hangers on the opposite side from the ones on the ledger board. This will guarantee that one day down the road the joist's will stay in place on the house side and the outer edge. It will add extra stability too. I had a long talk with Safety Sally and we agreed it's not that much $$ to do this. LOLOL Wow looks really nice. Question when you move a couch or chair's/furniture in will the steps be wide enough and the door too to bring in furniture? God's blessings to you all. Everything is looking so good.
Is the concrete not freezing before drying? I live in Slidell, Louisiana and we never do concrete if we have freezing temperatures.
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Guess it’s a little late, but a hoe works better than a shovel for mixing concrete in a wheel barrow. That’s how dad taught me over 50 years ago. Thought everybody did it that way.
Now I understand Martin and that video you post and you and your family in Indonesia then you are a multiple language somebody who traveled the world and know what’s best for this country I support you yo se que hablas español sigue con tu misión por tus hijos y tu familia yo se que viviste en Argentina
4 posts 2next to the home and anchored to it 2 extended away but parallel to them build your deck then every 12 ft 2 posts support as you go down
I just realized... there's no plumbing.
No little kitchenette or even a bathroom.
This was explained in the video where they framed the upstairs walls.
PS. When I engineer a landing or patio my joists run 2/3 in the house to 1/3 outside and no other support is needed, no posts. Scabbed or extends from the long joists.
On a house it is called a rim joist so I guess that's what it is called on a stair landing like that.
You have a Home Depot? How cool is that! They have it all. That must cause you much less grief when it comes to contemplating where to get needed materials. Keep up the good work. We see your construction supervisor is left handed.
What safety sallies? This is well done compared to how the crazy framer does stair landings, check out his recent video s5e9
Just a suggestion here, but a Ryobi Leaf Blower (as you have that system) works great getting fresh snow moved out of the way of your work area, off the cars, etc.
I haven't had to shovel in years since I got mine. The only caveat is that you need to get out early before it ices over or someone tracks it down.
Only question I have since you have the first floor up and the roof WHY isnt your materials inside the garage like your snow covered wood and not cutting your wood inside rather than outside.The wood needs to stay dry keeping it out in the snow will cause it to warp.
lookin good man... but? i agree w/ Dcrahn.... hangers on out side rim joists also.... u wont be sorry bro!!!! be blessed!!! Brian - Nor Cal
Like you thought about going up some plus wood will last longer
I always understood that the ledger should have 2 or more of those big bolts. Additionally I would put a couple coming out the side of the house which is the same as another ledger.
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I love the look of the decking. It is gorgeous. As for the structural integrity, it seems several [more knowledgeable than me!] viewers have suggestions.
Can you point me to the video that explains why you started on the garage/apartment before finishing the house? Only curious, not judging!
Around deck boards are called "rim" , you are doing very good on your new deck job. The correct use of Simpson strong tie hardware is impressive, teaching your young helper a skill that will be with him forever! Awesome!
I'm loving ❤ the decking setup ! 😊👍💕💕💕
I think our Code states 6x6 posts for decks and landings like yours if they are more than a few feet off the ground.
It's called an "out here" board
Martin, ur tooooo easy.....giving out a heart. But thanks anyway.
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you may want to put some cross-bracing on those long posts - it'll be a bit wobbly up there otherwise - looks good though -
I hate to pull a safety sally on you but the potential for snow falling of the roof on to stairs creates a danger of being killed or hurt to anyone one the stairs. That is why stairs and doors are under roof over hangings. By the way are you going to install snow guards on your metal roof? Also are you going to bolt the ledger board to the wall?
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just use wet cement mix to get a smooth finish on the pillars, make sure you seal the pillars as well
Rim joist across from a ledger just like any floors frame ;)
So cool to watch it come together.
What happened to your finger Marty?
Your pist need to be 6X6 your are to high for 4X4. And need pressure treated wood.
for safety sake down the road you should put in at les 2 lags threw you header into the garage for your landing as you did on the corner
On your concrete polls, if you put a vibrator on the side while they are wet they be smooth.
You guys are doing an amazing job. Also try out using a rake to mix concrete
You may want to put 2 more anchor bolts to secure the landing to the structure
Not bad you can mix up some more cement n go around the compound to make them look better if you want too
If your plan is to do much more concrete a concrete hoe is much easier than a shovel.
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Did you know that you can use your speed square as a guide to aid in making a perfectly square saw cut?
Yep.
My self have NEVER had good experiences with treated wood. Better use decent regular timbers and dose it with a treatment of choose. Every pressure treated wood I've used ended up twisting and warped. NEVER worked for me. Copper sulfate keeps any critter out of wood. Worms or Rat vermin.
Those stairs will be really nice once done. It looks like you’re doing a terrific job. All our best to you & your family. Is Sarah going to be home for Thanksgiving? I’m sure she’s doing well in Tennessee & there are lots of folks taking care of her there. Great school & area. God bless.
Looking forward to see you guys standing on the porch and enjoying the view
Very cool Definently interesting cheers thanks for sharing this vlog.
Why don't you build the stairs on the inside, instead of outside?