We had a VW 412LE variant and it was a very handy bit of kit, especially in snow. Drove a trip of about 400 miles in blizzard conditions in the winter of, I think, 1982. Not much other than heavies was moving that day.
@@christopherjahn2044 It's funny that my regard for that car influenced my current car choice - a Subaru Outback of 2006 vintage. Much the same sound and winter sure-footed performance.
I had a '71 Pinto sedan, German built 2.3, 4 speed, B60/13 tires on 7 in rims. Put a Racer Walsh Dyno Tune kit (bigger carb jets and lighter distributor advance springs and virtually a straight tail pipe. I ruled SCCA Autocross G Stock class for years until the new Honda Civic hit Memphis. My Pinto was a domestic rice rocket! Great car for a high schooler!
I had a friend whose family was total VW freaks. Consequently, his first car with 18 was a VW 411. The legend was that the owner had bought it drove it home, put it in ghe garage, and then got sick and bedridden. No one knew he even had a car until he died over a decade later, and the relatives that cleared his household. So my friend got to a quasi factory fresh almost oldtimer. He was amazed at the state, said he found parts that he had never seen before as they had usually rotted away long before you got at the cars. As he was a huge fan of huge R/C gliders, this was an ideal car. He had a 6 meter wingspan glider, making one wing 3 meters (9 feet long). He was so happy that when he opened the glovebox (and cut a hole into the back of the box, for an extra 20 cm or so) he could load the complete 3 meters into his car and get the hatch closed. And another friend also got a 411 as 18 yo, in what we call in Germany "baby blue", that super-1970s light blue.
In '74 I started working at the Chrysler Detroit Tank Arsenal & a few years later one of my buddies was promoted to an exec position. First thing he did was order a lease car. It was a '78 all-black loaded Dodge Magnum & had to wait six weeks for it because of special ordering the sunroof & other goodies. Good looking car. The only problem was he let his son-in-law & daughter use it for their honeymoon. They drove it to the Upper peninsula with less than 200 miles on it & just got north of the Mackinaw Bridge at night & ran over a huge bear sleeping on the road totaling the Dodge. I don't think the guy talked to his son-in-law for a year he was so PO'd at him.
In 2013, at the age of 72, on a mission to 'bag' the 13 states I had never previously been in before, ALL east of the MS River, I rode my motorcycle from CA, across the entire USA and up through Michigan, crossing the Mackinaw Bridge. At one point, the bridge drops quite close to the water and I felt I was riding in the mddle of the ocean. But, quite luckily, I must honestly say I had zero bear encounters! However, that wasn't the case on the Blue Ridge Parkway in VA.....where another rider and I came within inches of jointly colliding with a mighty big black bear! I've long wondered what would have happened, but quite frankly, am glad I didn't find out! BHE
The 411/412 was absolutely never positioned as a Cadillac-competitor. Here in Europe, alongside the 411/412 ('68-'72/'72-'74), Volkswagen offered the K70 ('70-'75) which represents the beginning of a new age / principle.
The GM midsize "aero-backs" were TRULY awful. The rear windows in both 2 door AND 4 door were FIXED IN PLACE! In the 4 door, all you had was a "wing window" by the rear pillar!
The last good-looking GM mid-sizers were the '66-'67 Buick Special/Skylark. The '78 Aerobacks were startling, but I never thought they were particularly offensive.
It was the same in the notchback Chevy and Pontiac A-bodies, and the wagons. Also in 1981 model year Chrysler K-Cars but they gained roll-down rear windows after the first year (1982 brochure pics show the earlier style but I've never seen an '82 with the fixed windows irl)
So, in short, they had not understood what made the european compact hatchbacks appealing: That when in need, you could stuff in an awful lot, making a truck unnecessary in most cases. Weird, as the US invented the station wagon, (in german "Kombi"), which had those characteristic - and his market. So the designers just wanted to have some new, different styling, no matter what.
@@eggsngritstn I have a "sports coupe" that has this "flat window" greenhouse issue, a 30-year old Opel Calibra. The most aerodynamic car in its time. Have a look for it, it is still timeless in its clean lines. And even for its age, I drive it with 26 mpg. And as we have unlimited autobahns, you can make use of the aerodynamics, Made it to 120, even 130. Officially it reached 147 mph, but with 30 years, take it easy.
Ford Europe sold a Granada for 22 years that was one of their biggest successes, particularly in Germany and the UK, where the car was produced. The second generation in particular was a big success: you had everything from a stripped out 2 litre entry model to the luxurious 2.8 Ghia that was as good as anything Mecedes made, but a lot cheaper. Not many survive now as they were never seen as classics until the noughties.
Aaah the Datsun B210. My high school girlfriend had one and she taught me how to drive a stick in it. My brother had tried many times to teach me in his MG, but he just didn't have the same reward based learning system that Jill did.
Well, your girlfriend had a much more friendly car than was the MG, in terms of transmissions and shifting. Having had three MG's in my life, I can attest to their fussiness and lack of tolerance for errors/mis-shifting. Their transmissions would bitch and gripe like crazy if you didn't shift it just right. I had an old B210 about 30 years ago, and you could run that bad boy into a wall, and it would bounce off, shake itself off and ask you "What's next?"....rugged little beasts! And I would HOPE your girlfriend had a much better reward system than your brother!!!
Ford Fairmont: This was actually a pretty-good car; handled nicely, fuel economy was good, but the inline-6 was tractor-like. Still, this was the first of the "Fox-bodies", and essentially anything you could take out of a wrecked Mustang would fit in it. Saw quite a few Fairmont 'sleepers' with Mustang V-8's and 5-speed floor shifters.
On the 6 cylinder the alternator was mounted close to the ground so every puddle you drove through the alternator light would come on. It also came with a self eating rack and pinion steering.
I had a '78 Fairmont from 87-92 with the inline 6. What a turd, slow as molasses and could not corner well at all. Try taking the corner at any speed above a crawl and it's understeer quite noticeably. I read the 4 Cyl versions handled much better. The fairmont lacked the handling pieces of the Mustang and it showed.' Tinny and cheap and mine had idling issues (bad carb) and I suspect it may well have had a partially plugged cat making it super slow. Never did like it all that much. Replaced it with a used 83 Honda Civic hatchback that I drove for most of the 90's and put some 70K on, and yes, it had the 5spd manual and AC.
Love the Datsun! My first hand me down was a '77 B210,. But for some reason loved the oddball styling of the 200sx, plus it had a cool interior. Too bad all of the 70s Datsuns have crumbled into dust!
„Coupay“ is the (nearly) correct pronounciation of „Coupé“ („Coupea“ with „ea“ like in „head“ would be better, but I think there are no letters to describe the real correct pronounciation). „Coop“ is completely wrong: there is an „accent aigu“ on the „e“ („é“) wich makes it sound brightly.
My parents first "family car" was a brand new 1972 Gran Torino Squire Wagon. The one with the fake wood paneling. My dad put U.S Mags "Big Slot" style rims on it. Man, that car looked cool. Unfortunately, it had an electrical fire in the engine in 1976 or 1977 and the insurance company totaled it.
my first car was a 75 mercury bobcat...great little car that was used in my high school mechanics class...changed the fuel tank position and swapped in a better engine which gave me an A and ready for the summer.
I worked in a VW dealer service dept. When the type 4s had not already self-destructed, they had a charming habit of catching on fire, even parked in your driveway. VW had thoughtfully included a gasoline powered(!) heater that had a notable tendency for leaking fuel. If that didn't finish it off, the fuel injection lines(rubber) leaked directly on to the hot engine. Not Dr. Porsches finest work.....
Mom had a 78 Magnum new white with a blue vinyl top window louvers full leather and full power 360 4bbl. She traded in 84 for a new Jeep cherokee pioneer. The Magnum would cost 60 dollars a week in gas, and that was then in CALIFORNIA SoCal. Now you could ez double it with gas last summer at almost 7 dollars a gallon in SoCal.
I've long had an interest in the '73 GTO. It's not pretty, it's a Colonnade car and it has the ghastly crash bumpers, but I like the way it looks. My parents owned a '73 Pontiac Grand Le Mans wagon and it was a comfortable beast. Plus, 1973 is my birth year. I think it would be a fun driver.
My first car was a 1973 Omega 2 door sedan. I loved that car. Had it almost 5 years. Boy did I regret trading it in on a 1980 Chevette Scooter. And at one time I bought a Ford Fairmont 4 door sedan, base model.
I had both a '78 and '82. Apparently I'm a masochist. Both were bought used, so some of the problems could be traced to previous owners. But both were "Meh" on their good days and absolutely craptastic on others. But they were cheap (At least to buy), got me around, only occasionally chose random times not to, and were still running when I got rid of them.
I owned a VW 412 station wagon for a while. The electronics were a nightmare and I had to buy three main boards each costing over $500 back in 1980. Terrible!! As a design engineer I worked on the team designing the VW Phaeton's fuel tank. What a fabulous and underrated luxury car!
Your thumbnail caught my eye, I owned a 79 dodge magnum, crashed it and tore off the nose, I found another one in a car lot for 500 bucks and took the nose off it and tons of parts for a few years. The dam thing had so many issues it would never start when warm only cold. something to do with the computer box on the air cleaner. so I would always carry the computer box fromt he scrap car i bought and swich it out if I needed to start it when warm lol ahh the 80`s were a wonderfull time. ended up picking up a 1980 grand prix after the dodge died.
The VW 411/412 had, besides a lack of hp, an other major issue: rust. VW's plan was to prevent rust by filling up hollow spaces in the carbody and in the doors with foam. Ironically they used a foam material which was hygroscopic - with an overwhelming success.
My late Uncle Frank visited us in late 1975, and he rented a Ford Granada. I still have a picture of him standing by the front bumper and hood, he face in his hand and his rather large middle finger extended towards the car. It was a rolling turd-ball. So much for the Ford Granada....
There was a saying about the VW 411: “4 doors, 11 years too late.” Also a derisive nickname was "Nordhoffs legacy" because the concept was already considered outdated back then! That was one of the reasons why VW was in crisis at the beginning of the 1970s! It didn't help much that it had the most powerful engine among the air-cooled models.
The early Pontiac Astre shown is Canada-only. US sales began in 1975 after US Pontiac dealers demanded a small car to sell in the wake of the 1973 oil crisis.
The VW 411 - the name was said to mean "four doors, eleven years late" and the wagon didn't even have that. The AMC Hornet wagon did, and some years half of all Hornets sold were wagons since there was no direct competition, you could either get a huge "midsize" like the Torino, a tiny 2-door wagon like the Pinto or Vega or an import but the Nova, Valiant and Falcon wagons were gone before 1970 and the Aspen/Volare wagon didn't appear until 1976.
The Pontiac Ventura was featured in the Uniroyal stunt driver commercials. Featuring Uni, Roy, and AL . Clever marketing by the makers of Tiger Paw Tires. Now owned by Michelin 🏁🏁🏁
The Pontiac Ventura was but one of the GM "NOVA" vehicles sharing the same platform: the Chevrolet Nova, the Oldsmobile Omega, the Pontiac Ventura, and the Buick Apollo.
The Futura coupe effectively replaced the earlier 1972-mid-size-Ford-based Elite after a 1-year gap with the erstwhile LTD II interim restyled continuation. The Elite used the redesigned Mercury Cougar body from 1974 and it was given different front-end clip that aped the 1971-72 Pontiac Grand Prix with a unique 2-row egg-crate grille. Marketed as the Ford Gran Torino Elite as Ford's top-of-the-line intermediate-size offering in 1975 and then made a singular separate model as simply Ford Elite in 1976, renamed LTD II with new sheet metal for 1977, added a 4-door sedan and wagon to the original Elite coupe that year and then it became the Futura and the Elite's grille design returned to production, built mainly as a 2-door coupe. The Fairmont Futura saw a fleet of a handful of Ranchero pick-up truck versions aimed at the Cadillac Mirage that mostly was bought by funeral home service drivers. Like the Mirage, Futura Ranchero sales were minuscule.
So glad I grew up in this period... the shapes, both hideous and beautiful, we're distinctive: and then The Colours. However, I must say that the European Granada was a far better car and the Australian Fairmont was way more exciting. I know, because I grew up around them. 🤣
There are so many comment mistakes on this by the author, that its almost comical, And I’m going to go out on a limb and say that he must be a Toyota or honda owner to have such little knowledge on 70’s American cars. But what’s funniest is the way he criticizes American Brand engineering as bad thing. When you have Lexota, HondCura, NisFinity and GenKia doing the exact same thing to buyers nowadays
Car manufacturers have backed themselves into a corner. ALL feel they have to look different each year, and yet, at the same time, ALL look different from ALL other companies products. Seems for many years, Volkswagon had the right idea....although at now age 84, I have never owned one. My ex-wife's uncle often talked about all of the various cars he had owned, then would pause, saying.... "Never bought a new one, though.....Let someone else take the beating!".....referring to the huge drop in value the very instant it is droven off the lot.
It's about forgotten cars and you have the Ford Torino? Those things were everywhere back in the day. Instead you should have had the sister car, the Mercury Cyclone.
Yes. That is because of that accent above the ė. "Coupė" is french and just mean 'cut off'. Americans appearantly cut off the ė and made the coupė just a "coup"... ;-)
How in Heck did the German's VW think the 411 looked acceptable ????? YUK ! Please do 70s Vans, I owned a Datsun HOMER , great van, could climb a wall ! :D
Interesting selection of ‘70’s losers. Having regularly driven or owned at nearly half of these over the years, I can attest to the reasons these cars have been forgotten: most were piles of junk assembled into drivable form, with the exception of the under-powered VW 411/12. My direct personal experience was with driving my father’s VW 411 Combi and Ford Maverick, and ownership of the Ford Pinto, AMC Hornet wagon, and Olds 4door “fastback”. I had friends who owned the Ford Fairmont and Ford Granada (the car which Ford tried to export to Europe as a “Mercedes-beater” - a dismal failure unsurprisingly laughed at by every German I knew when I lived there). The Astra/Vega were unparalleled modern engineering/manufacturing failures, and the Ford Torino was the ugliest duckling of the muscle car era (albeit a far better design than the disastrous LTD II 🙄…).
The Vega is easily the worst car ever sold in the US. Even the Yugo was better. I worked at a Chevy dealer during the Vega years. We had two full time heavy mechanics doing only Vega rebuilds. We had a long line of dead Vegas behind the dealership that we called death row. Three year old Vegas required wood placed over the floor holes and you could stand on the seat with half of your body out and above the roof rust hole. Engines fell out from rust!. Yellow Vegas looked like cartoon cheese cars with the rust holes everywhere. The Cosworth Vega?, the average Datsun sedan blew its doors off. The old saying is true, you can’t polish a turd.
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We had a VW 412LE variant and it was a very handy bit of kit, especially in snow. Drove a trip of about 400 miles in blizzard conditions in the winter of, I think, 1982. Not much other than heavies was moving that day.
We had a 412 wagon. Great car!
@@christopherjahn2044 It's funny that my regard for that car influenced my current car choice - a Subaru Outback of 2006 vintage. Much the same sound and winter sure-footed performance.
Ah...the Pinto/Bobcat. A car people were just dying to get into! They were a real blast!
they were hot!
I had a '71 Pinto sedan, German built 2.3, 4 speed, B60/13 tires on 7 in rims. Put a Racer Walsh Dyno Tune kit (bigger carb jets and lighter distributor advance springs and virtually a straight tail pipe. I ruled SCCA Autocross G
Stock class for years until the new Honda Civic hit Memphis. My Pinto was a domestic rice rocket! Great car for a high schooler!
My new 71 vw fast back was a hs graduation gift. What an amazing car.
I had a friend whose family was total VW freaks. Consequently, his first car with 18 was a VW 411.
The legend was that the owner had bought it drove it home, put it in ghe garage, and then got sick and bedridden. No one knew he even had a car until he died over a decade later, and the relatives that cleared his household.
So my friend got to a quasi factory fresh almost oldtimer.
He was amazed at the state, said he found parts that he had never seen before as they had usually rotted away long before you got at the cars.
As he was a huge fan of huge R/C gliders, this was an ideal car. He had a 6 meter wingspan glider, making one wing 3 meters (9 feet long).
He was so happy that when he opened the glovebox (and cut a hole into the back of the box, for an extra 20 cm or so) he could load the complete 3 meters into his car and get the hatch closed.
And another friend also got a 411 as 18 yo, in what we call in Germany "baby blue", that super-1970s light blue.
In '74 I started working at the Chrysler Detroit Tank Arsenal & a few years later one of my buddies was promoted to an exec position. First thing he did was order a lease car. It was a '78 all-black loaded Dodge Magnum & had to wait six weeks for it because of special ordering the sunroof & other goodies. Good looking car. The only problem was he let his son-in-law & daughter use it for their honeymoon. They drove it to the Upper peninsula with less than 200 miles on it & just got north of the Mackinaw Bridge at night & ran over a huge bear sleeping on the road totaling the Dodge. I don't think the guy talked to his son-in-law for a year he was so PO'd at him.
In 2013, at the age of 72, on a mission to 'bag' the 13 states I had never previously been in before, ALL east of the MS River, I rode my motorcycle from CA, across the entire USA and up through Michigan, crossing the Mackinaw Bridge. At one point, the bridge drops quite close to the water and I felt I was riding in the mddle of the ocean. But, quite luckily, I must honestly say I had zero bear encounters!
However, that wasn't the case on the Blue Ridge Parkway in VA.....where another rider and I came within inches of jointly colliding with a mighty big black bear! I've long wondered what would have happened, but quite frankly, am glad I didn't find out! BHE
The 411/412 was absolutely never positioned as a Cadillac-competitor. Here in Europe, alongside the 411/412 ('68-'72/'72-'74), Volkswagen offered the K70 ('70-'75) which represents the beginning of a new age / principle.
The GM midsize "aero-backs" were TRULY awful. The rear windows in both 2 door AND 4 door were FIXED IN PLACE! In the 4 door, all you had was a "wing window" by the rear pillar!
Oy, and try owning one in the South. All of that glass really taxed the air conditioning. Not a good combination.
The last good-looking GM mid-sizers were the '66-'67 Buick Special/Skylark.
The '78 Aerobacks were startling, but I never thought they were particularly offensive.
It was the same in the notchback Chevy and Pontiac A-bodies, and the wagons. Also in 1981 model year Chrysler K-Cars but they gained roll-down rear windows after the first year (1982 brochure pics show the earlier style but I've never seen an '82 with the fixed windows irl)
So, in short, they had not understood what made the european compact hatchbacks appealing: That when in need, you could stuff in an awful lot, making a truck unnecessary in most cases.
Weird, as the US invented the station wagon, (in german "Kombi"), which had those characteristic - and his market.
So the designers just wanted to have some new, different styling, no matter what.
@@eggsngritstn I have a "sports coupe" that has this "flat window" greenhouse issue, a 30-year old Opel Calibra. The most aerodynamic car in its time.
Have a look for it, it is still timeless in its clean lines.
And even for its age, I drive it with 26 mpg. And as we have unlimited autobahns, you can make use of the aerodynamics, Made it to 120, even 130. Officially it reached 147 mph, but with 30 years, take it easy.
Ford Europe sold a Granada for 22 years that was one of their biggest successes, particularly in Germany and the UK, where the car was produced. The second generation in particular was a big success: you had everything from a stripped out 2 litre entry model to the luxurious 2.8 Ghia that was as good as anything Mecedes made, but a lot cheaper. Not many survive now as they were never seen as classics until the noughties.
The Fairmont was the replacement for the Maverick, not the Granada
this AI vid will not care
@@davidhusband5022 but others do
Had several of these. The Maverick was my favorite 😊
Thanks for a fine vid... as for Volkswagen 411, the figure is said to mean, "4 doors, 11 years too late" lol
The only VW that should be made today this “ the thing”. What a great concept that was.
They were pretty awesome machines, very common in Mexico, not hard to find to this day
A military-vehicle based on the bug-platform.
Thank you.
Aaah the Datsun B210. My high school girlfriend had one and she taught me how to drive a stick in it. My brother had tried many times to teach me in his MG, but he just didn't have the same reward based learning system that Jill did.
Well, your girlfriend had a much more friendly car than was the MG, in terms of transmissions and shifting. Having had three MG's in my life, I can attest to their fussiness and lack of tolerance for errors/mis-shifting. Their transmissions would bitch and gripe like crazy if you didn't shift it just right.
I had an old B210 about 30 years ago, and you could run that bad boy into a wall, and it would bounce off, shake itself off and ask you "What's next?"....rugged little beasts!
And I would HOPE your girlfriend had a much better reward system than your brother!!!
Ford Fairmont: This was actually a pretty-good car; handled nicely, fuel economy was good, but the inline-6 was tractor-like. Still, this was the first of the "Fox-bodies", and essentially anything you could take out of a wrecked Mustang would fit in it. Saw quite a few Fairmont 'sleepers' with Mustang V-8's and 5-speed floor shifters.
On the 6 cylinder the alternator was mounted close to the ground so every puddle you drove through the alternator light would come on. It also came with a self eating rack and pinion steering.
I had a '78 Fairmont from 87-92 with the inline 6. What a turd, slow as molasses and could not corner well at all. Try taking the corner at any speed above a crawl and it's understeer quite noticeably. I read the 4 Cyl versions handled much better. The fairmont lacked the handling pieces of the Mustang and it showed.'
Tinny and cheap and mine had idling issues (bad carb) and I suspect it may well have had a partially plugged cat making it super slow. Never did like it all that much. Replaced it with a used 83 Honda Civic hatchback that I drove for most of the 90's and put some 70K on, and yes, it had the 5spd manual and AC.
Love the Datsun! My first hand me down was a '77 B210,. But for some reason loved the oddball styling of the 200sx, plus it had a cool interior. Too bad all of the 70s Datsuns have crumbled into dust!
The Volkswagen Feetun, as he pronounced it. Good Lord.
how about 'Coop-aye'? (coupe?)
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„Coupay“ is the (nearly) correct pronounciation of „Coupé“ („Coupea“ with „ea“ like in „head“ would be better, but I think there are no letters to describe the real correct pronounciation). „Coop“ is completely wrong: there is an „accent aigu“ on the „e“ („é“) wich makes it sound brightly.
Fun video - thanks !
Glad you enjoyed it!
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I had a 1974 Torino wagon for a few years. I loved that 3 way tailgate.
Interesting video!! 👏👏
I still remember the song for the Mercury Bobcat. Love that Bobcat, love that Bobcat...
There was never The Big Four.
Its ALWAYS been The Big Three. AMC was never considered like that.
I was going to say that. That's why the big three was the big three, an American motors was the little one.
My dad had a 412 my mother drove a Torino wagon, and I've owned a Bobcat and an '80 200sx. You missed the Datsun F10, their first FWD car.
I loved my used 74 maverick. What a great looking car.
My parents first "family car" was a brand new 1972 Gran Torino Squire Wagon. The one with the fake wood paneling. My dad put U.S Mags "Big Slot" style rims on it. Man, that car looked cool. Unfortunately, it had an electrical fire in the engine in 1976 or 1977 and the insurance company totaled it.
my first car was a 75 mercury bobcat...great little car that was used in my high school mechanics class...changed the fuel tank position and swapped in a better engine which gave me an A and ready for the summer.
I had a 1st generation VW square back 4 speed… it was pretty fast and handled really well
When I was a kid and you needed cheap, safe and reliable transportation you bought a AMC car.
I worked in a VW dealer service dept. When the type 4s had not already self-destructed, they had a charming habit of catching on fire, even parked in your driveway. VW had thoughtfully included a gasoline powered(!) heater that had a notable tendency for leaking fuel. If that didn't finish it off, the fuel injection lines(rubber) leaked directly on to the hot engine.
Not Dr. Porsches finest work.....
Never heard of that here in Germany. And I had several Type 4… Seems to me that there was a lack of maintenance on these cars you describe.
And Dr. Porsche was long deceased when the 411 was put on the market
Mom had a 78 Magnum new white with a blue vinyl top window louvers full leather and full power 360 4bbl. She traded in 84 for a new Jeep cherokee pioneer. The Magnum would cost 60 dollars a week in gas, and that was then in CALIFORNIA SoCal. Now you could ez double it with gas last summer at almost 7 dollars a gallon in SoCal.
El Volkswagen 411 es la versión wagon de la Brasilia muy popular en México y Brasil que salió algunos años después.
My first car was a 76 AMC Hornet. I loved it, and it ran like a champ. It was a very low-tech, simple car.
I've long had an interest in the '73 GTO. It's not pretty, it's a Colonnade car and it has the ghastly crash bumpers, but I like the way it looks. My parents owned a '73 Pontiac Grand Le Mans wagon and it was a comfortable beast. Plus, 1973 is my birth year. I think it would be a fun driver.
It's a beautiful car,very rare now.
My first car was a 1973 Omega 2 door sedan. I loved that car. Had it almost 5 years. Boy did I regret trading it in on a 1980 Chevette Scooter. And at one time I bought a Ford Fairmont 4 door sedan, base model.
I had both a '78 and '82. Apparently I'm a masochist. Both were bought used, so some of the problems could be traced to previous owners. But both were "Meh" on their good days and absolutely craptastic on others.
But they were cheap (At least to buy), got me around, only occasionally chose random times not to, and were still running when I got rid of them.
I owned a VW 412 station wagon for a while. The electronics were a nightmare and I had to buy three main boards each costing over $500 back in 1980. Terrible!! As a design engineer I worked on the team designing the VW Phaeton's fuel tank. What a fabulous and underrated luxury car!
I had several 411 and 412 in the 80ies and 90ies and there never was any trouble with the electronics
@@heikosteffens1661 How fortunate. Guess I had a lemon.
My mom had a Monarch coupe Giha it was a cool good looking car and my mom looked great driving it.
Your thumbnail caught my eye, I owned a 79 dodge magnum, crashed it and tore off the nose, I found another one in a car lot for 500 bucks and took the nose off it and tons of parts for a few years. The dam thing had so many issues it would never start when warm only cold. something to do with the computer box on the air cleaner. so I would always carry the computer box fromt he scrap car i bought and swich it out if I needed to start it when warm lol ahh the 80`s were a wonderfull time. ended up picking up a 1980 grand prix after the dodge died.
The VW 411/412 had, besides a lack of hp, an other major issue: rust. VW's plan was to prevent rust by filling up hollow spaces in the carbody and in the doors with foam. Ironically they used a foam material which was hygroscopic - with an overwhelming success.
An uncle of mine had a AMC Matador coupe , it drove like a rocket
The VW 411/412 got the nickname "Nasenbär" for its very long front here in Germany
The Ford Granada didn't sell because people thought it was comparable to a Mercedes, they bought it because it was much cheaper.
1972 Toyota Celica ST for this dude. I miss it much!
Honorable Mention: Lincoln Versailles (1977-80).
My late Uncle Frank visited us in late 1975, and he rented a Ford Granada. I still have a picture of him standing by the front bumper and hood, he face in his hand and his rather large middle finger extended towards the car. It was a rolling turd-ball. So much for the Ford Granada....
@antonbruce - the European Granada was a much better and more refined car. I've owned them for over 30 years and simply love them.
@@friendlypiranha774 Yes, but sadly, THAT car never got here in the U.S.....
There was a saying about the VW 411: “4 doors, 11 years too late.” Also a derisive nickname was "Nordhoffs legacy" because the concept was already considered outdated back then! That was one of the reasons why VW was in crisis at the beginning of the 1970s! It didn't help much that it had the most powerful engine among the air-cooled models.
OMG I
ordered a 1972 pinto squire wagon. Talk about fall apart in 18 months.
I remember all of these cars. A friend had a Datsun b210 which made me car sick. Don’t forget Cadillac also had the buttless seville those same years.
The early Pontiac Astre shown is Canada-only. US sales began in 1975 after US Pontiac dealers demanded a small car to sell in the wake of the 1973 oil crisis.
The VW 411 - the name was said to mean "four doors, eleven years late" and the wagon didn't even have that. The AMC Hornet wagon did, and some years half of all Hornets sold were wagons since there was no direct competition, you could either get a huge "midsize" like the Torino, a tiny 2-door wagon like the Pinto or Vega or an import but the Nova, Valiant and Falcon wagons were gone before 1970 and the Aspen/Volare wagon didn't appear until 1976.
The Pontiac Ventura was featured in the Uniroyal stunt driver commercials. Featuring Uni, Roy, and AL . Clever marketing by the makers of Tiger Paw Tires. Now owned by Michelin 🏁🏁🏁
The Pontiac Ventura was but one of the GM "NOVA" vehicles sharing the same platform: the Chevrolet Nova, the Oldsmobile Omega, the Pontiac Ventura, and the Buick Apollo.
I had an '82 Granada. Absolutely loved it!
Until it wad totalled...
The Futura coupe effectively replaced the earlier 1972-mid-size-Ford-based Elite after a 1-year gap with the erstwhile LTD II interim restyled continuation. The Elite used the redesigned Mercury Cougar body from 1974 and it was given different front-end clip that aped the 1971-72 Pontiac Grand Prix with a unique 2-row egg-crate grille. Marketed as the Ford Gran Torino Elite as Ford's top-of-the-line intermediate-size offering in 1975 and then made a singular separate model as simply Ford Elite in 1976, renamed LTD II with new sheet metal for 1977, added a 4-door sedan and wagon to the original Elite coupe that year and then it became the Futura and the Elite's grille design returned to production, built mainly as a 2-door coupe. The Fairmont Futura saw a fleet of a handful of Ranchero pick-up truck versions aimed at the Cadillac Mirage that mostly was bought by funeral home service drivers. Like the Mirage, Futura Ranchero sales were minuscule.
Should have included the Leyland P76. In addition to other reasons given blocked by other manufacturers buying all stock of common components.
Yes AMC
Yes Ford Gran Torino
Ford Mercury
So glad I grew up in this period... the shapes, both hideous and beautiful, we're distinctive: and then The Colours.
However, I must say that the European Granada was a far better car and the Australian Fairmont was way more exciting. I know, because I grew up around them. 🤣
There are so many comment mistakes on this by the author, that its almost comical, And I’m going to go out on a limb and say that he must be a Toyota or honda owner to have such little knowledge on 70’s American cars.
But what’s funniest is the way he criticizes American Brand engineering as bad thing. When you have Lexota, HondCura, NisFinity and GenKia doing the exact same thing to buyers nowadays
@MrDvsuton - Don't forget about the ChevWoo Spark😂😂😂
I had several type 3's. The Type 4's were good cars, but the mandated bumpers looked awful.
I owned two cars on this list. The Oldsmobile Omega, which I liked a lot, and the Dodge Mirada, which I bought used. It was not good.
I always liked the Mirada/Imperial from the early 1980's. Underrated styling, but abysmal reliability. Such was Chrysler during that time.
Perfect proportions, almost like never before and after...
Calls the Maverick a sedan, yet shows only photos of coupes.
But there also was a (4 door notchback) Maverick sedan.
Car manufacturers have backed themselves into a corner. ALL feel they have to look different each year, and yet, at the same time, ALL look different from ALL other companies products. Seems for many years, Volkswagon had the right idea....although at now age 84, I have never owned one.
My ex-wife's uncle often talked about all of the various cars he had owned, then would pause, saying....
"Never bought a new one, though.....Let someone else take the beating!".....referring to the huge drop in value the very instant it is droven off the lot.
Maverick with inline six cylinder and 3 speed automatic transmission averaged 30mpg.
Most of these cars are unknown for most people out of the USA
Had a Pontiac Astra, Vega clone, that put me off GM products for life. I have never owned another GM vehicle.
Those '72 Torinos were brutal! What happened to Ford's designers?
my favorite then was gallant 😮😂😂😂😮is it still exist 😢😢😢😢
I put a 2 liter engine from a destroyed Porsche 914 in my 411 wagon. Then I destroyed my 411.
Ford now has a Maverick that’s a truck or SUV.
Yes Oldsmobil
It's about forgotten cars and you have the Ford Torino? Those things were everywhere back in the day. Instead you should have had the sister car, the Mercury Cyclone.
Buick Apollo
Knowledge:
1972 Buick Riviera
1966 Buick Skylark
Nothing here worth remembering - which they were forgotten.
Cash for clunkers robbed us of those classics. another thanks to Obama.
Knowledge:
Chevrolet Malibu
1:16. "Get off my lawn !!"
Sorry, the AMC Eagle was not all that ground-breaking - that crown belongs to the Range Rover.
And what about the (original) Jeep Grand Wagoneer...
2:28 Das war der beste VW 👍👍👍👍
Ganz genau 👍
The b 210 and 210 both were disasters as they aged, rust, poor engines and cabs.
Forgotten Cars From the 1970s Worth... Nothing!
WHAT?? NO Kaisers on here?
My Fairmont Futura did not look like that .
From `73 to the end of the decade, NOTHING is worth remembering. Cars, politics, TV, and disco music!
I have a 74 Dodge Charger Rallye 440. Gorgeous car and with 275 net horsepower ran a 15 flat at 92.
Europea car are nice american to much cuff but even nice😊
Funny commentary ...the truth
3:49
NOVA
OMEGA
VENTURA
APOLLO
Forgotten it ? 1:11 ...pas au Québec .
"Coup-ay?" Really?
Yes. That is because of that accent above the ė. "Coupė" is french and just mean 'cut off'.
Americans appearantly cut off the ė and made the coupė just a "coup"... ;-)
How in Heck did the German's VW think the 411 looked acceptable ????? YUK !
Please do 70s Vans, I owned a Datsun HOMER , great van, could climb a wall ! :D
You drove a Homer and you think the 411 was ugly?
😂
For people accepted Yugo any crap is godlike...
@@chuckpeterson3262 I'm marge, and have a brain and taste ! :D
Hey, we never got the Type 4 in Australia. Thank God for small mercies.
radical California's lmao 😅 SoCal native everyone hates us and who cares. We got to love them jelly haters 😅
are you trans?
Interesting selection of ‘70’s losers. Having regularly driven or owned at nearly half of these over the years, I can attest to the reasons these cars have been forgotten: most were piles of junk assembled into drivable form, with the exception of the under-powered VW 411/12. My direct personal experience was with driving my father’s VW 411 Combi and Ford Maverick, and ownership of the Ford Pinto, AMC Hornet wagon, and Olds 4door “fastback”. I had friends who owned the Ford Fairmont and Ford Granada (the car which Ford tried to export to Europe as a “Mercedes-beater” - a dismal failure unsurprisingly laughed at by every German I knew when I lived there). The Astra/Vega were unparalleled modern engineering/manufacturing failures, and the Ford Torino was the ugliest duckling of the muscle car era (albeit a far better design than the disastrous LTD II 🙄…).
The Vega is easily the worst car ever sold in the US. Even the Yugo was better. I worked at a Chevy dealer during the Vega years. We had two full time heavy mechanics doing only Vega rebuilds. We had a long line of dead Vegas behind the dealership that we called death row. Three year old Vegas required wood placed over the floor holes and you could stand on the seat with half of your body out and above the roof rust hole. Engines fell out from rust!. Yellow Vegas looked like cartoon cheese cars with the rust holes everywhere. The Cosworth Vega?, the average Datsun sedan blew its doors off. The old saying is true, you can’t polish a turd.
Not very inspired.......these cars
Except for the Torino all best forgotten.
That Datsun looks so ugly and the Dodge Magnum is a piece of junk on wheels
7:00: Ah, yes, the famous "Butt-less Cutlass"!
Have you ever seen a 2nd Gen Cadillac Seville? (1980-1985)