I'm looking at the gen2 as an upgrade after 10 years with a baratza vario with ceramic burrs. I just changed it to new steel burrs but it's taking 35 seconds to grind a double shot. This seems like the hopper-less design will take getting used to
Wait, when you say ”We took a fan favourite and made it better" are you saying you are the makers of this grinder? I thought it was a Chinese manufacturer design and build and you are a reseller
For DF64 gen 2 with DF64V, is DF64V better? Somehow DF64V not only an upgrade but also adjustable rpm speed to maximum to 1800, while DF64 gen 2 constant 1400 rpm.
I'm upgrading from the Varia VS3 and I think either the DF64V or DF Gen 2. I really like the RPM dial, but I heard that the plasma thing on the gen 2 is like essential to have less static and less flying around of coffee? I'd like to grind as many thigns as possible - mostly espresso I think, but I also enjoy the AeroPress, occasional Cold Brew, or turkish coffee.
Will have to make a video, but the difference between the 64 Gen 2 and regular 83 will be a fairly similar correlation in flavor differences. I really like the variable RPM for drip coffee.
@@EspressoOutlet Would be nice to see. Also would be nice if you carried the GZZT model for 64mm. Seams like its getting recognition across the pond, but not for US, and has a better motor than the DF64v.
@espresso outlet llc other than the size are the burrs themselves different in the df64 2 and df 83 2 and does the 83 grind coarser than the 64. I do about 80% espresso and the remainder french press/clever/aeropress..
if you have the 83, I don't see what your gaining going smaller. Especially for only espresso. If wanting a second brew only grinder, it might be a nice addition!
Not sure if I totally follow, but will throw a few things out. If only pour over DF64V with MP is great. DF83 with MP will also be great. I don't like 64 cast for anything much, for 83 cast, can be good, but tends to be sweeter for some coffees which I don't really consider brightness. I don't recommend cast. Id go MP in either grinder. Don't expect it to be the end all for espresso, espresso MP is quite limited to origins.
@@EspressoOutlet tks. I only use for filter coffee, no espreso. Many people recommended the Fuji Royal r220, but I want to buy a newer kind machine. It sounds like I can confidently buy the DF64V with the SSP MP burrs.
I'm looking at the gen2 as an upgrade after 10 years with a baratza vario with ceramic burrs. I just changed it to new steel burrs but it's taking 35 seconds to grind a double shot. This seems like the hopper-less design will take getting used to
Nicely done. For espresso use only, pulling medium-medium dark traditional espresso shots with a Lever, any thoughts on which one?
Any of them would work great. Id go Gen 2
Wait, when you say ”We took a fan favourite and made it better" are you saying you are the makers of this grinder? I thought it was a Chinese manufacturer design and build and you are a reseller
We work with the manufacturer on feedback and design. Certain elements such as implementing the ion generator was promoted by Espresso Outlet.
Where did you purchase that angled tilt adaptor? Looks beautiful
For DF64 gen 2 with DF64V, is DF64V better? Somehow DF64V not only an upgrade but also adjustable rpm speed to maximum to 1800, while DF64 gen 2 constant 1400 rpm.
I'm upgrading from the Varia VS3 and I think either the DF64V or DF Gen 2. I really like the RPM dial, but I heard that the plasma thing on the gen 2 is like essential to have less static and less flying around of coffee?
I'd like to grind as many thigns as possible - mostly espresso I think, but I also enjoy the AeroPress, occasional Cold Brew, or turkish coffee.
I just bought the df64v for only espresso should Have i bought the df83 v2 or they are gonna give the same quality taste
The df64 V doesn't have the plasma generator thing? And thhr df83 and the d64 gen2 will it ever get a Variable motor version?
Which grinder 64 v2 vs 83 v2 : with stock burrs difference in taste AND can you grind COARSER with the stock burrs in the 64 v2 or 83 v2 ?
Comparing to DF64 gen2 stock burr, does DF83 gen2 stock burr perform much better quality coffee for espresso?
Not an easy thing to answer, because both sets of stock burrs are more geared towards espresso. For me, the larger burrs are fantastic.
would like to see df64v vs df83v, and some idea of what it means in cup...i know, somewhat subjective, but....
Will have to make a video, but the difference between the 64 Gen 2 and regular 83 will be a fairly similar correlation in flavor differences. I really like the variable RPM for drip coffee.
@@EspressoOutlet Would be nice to see. Also would be nice if you carried the GZZT model for 64mm. Seams like its getting recognition across the pond, but not for US, and has a better motor than the DF64v.
We have a GZZT, has lots of issues. Not interested until issues are fixed.
@espresso outlet llc other than the size are the burrs themselves different in the df64 2 and df 83 2 and does the 83 grind coarser than the 64. I do about 80% espresso and the remainder french press/clever/aeropress..
They technically have the same range. Either will do what you are looking for.
i have df83, does it make sense buying df64v? im just using it for espresso only
if you have the 83, I don't see what your gaining going smaller. Especially for only espresso. If wanting a second brew only grinder, it might be a nice addition!
Bruh is just rolling in dough lol
budget 900, only pull-over coffee, need brightness, df64v change burr to SSP RS MP is better choice???
Not sure if I totally follow, but will throw a few things out.
If only pour over DF64V with MP is great. DF83 with MP will also be great. I don't like 64 cast for anything much, for 83 cast, can be good, but tends to be sweeter for some coffees which I don't really consider brightness. I don't recommend cast.
Id go MP in either grinder. Don't expect it to be the end all for espresso, espresso MP is quite limited to origins.
@@EspressoOutlet tks.
I only use for filter coffee, no espreso.
Many people recommended the Fuji Royal r220, but I want to buy a newer kind machine.
It sounds like I can confidently buy the DF64V with the SSP MP burrs.