Can We Debunk Mike Mentzer's Most Popular Philosophies (with science)
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0:00 Israetel discusses Mentzer
2:26 What is HIT?
8:56 Mike Breaks Down Mentzer Quotes
16:35 Mike Mentzer Quote 2
22:15 Mike Mentzer Quote 3
27:34 Mike Mentzer Quote 4
30:45 Mike Mentzer Quote 5
34:02 Mike Mentzer Quote 6
37:27 Mike Mentzer Quote 7
40:16 Mike Mentzer Quote 8
43:52 Mike Mentzer Quote 9
50:03 Mike Mentzer Quote 10
54:02 Mike's thoughts on Mentzer
57:40 Take Aways - กีฬา
I can hear Dr Mike swinging his legs under his desk
😂😂😂
🤣🤣
This is hilarious😂
His little legs are sooooo cute!
Dead🤣🤣
Mike on Mike crime.
😂😂😂😂😂
hahahahaha
BROOOO LOLOL
I laughed so hard my liver is failing
@@President.GeorgeWashingtonsame (it’s cause I abuse steroids)
Mike Mentzer is having the last laugh, he’s doing zero sets per week.
Man 💀
I feel bad for laughing at this one
🤣🤣🤣
NIT (no intensity training)
Mate 💀
Mike Mentzer the recovery advocate. Mentzer the log book advocate. Mentzer the systematizer. That is how he should be remembered. It is good that we know things now we did not know 40 years ago and can improve our training based on that knowledge.
I absolutely agree. I feel like if Mentzer had access to the training data we have now, he's exactly the sort of guy who would adapt his method to the current science.
Radagast the bird tamer - Radagast the simple - Radagast the fool!
@@TheBarbellBandit He was so paranoid about overtraining he Trained once every 10 Year to not get overtrained.
He was also the "effort" advocate the last couple of reps of the set should be very hard 🤷
@@flow1188one set, one rep every ten years
"Why do bodybuilders spend 2-3 hours in the gym??? Do you not have anything better to do???" -Mike Menzer
I remember when someone asked Mentzer what should bodybuilders now do with their spare time and he was like "read a book." 🤣
Wow. that's 10-20 hours per week...That's crazy. I'll take 2-3 per week
Not when you're addicted to the pump. No place I'd ever rather be than in the gym honestly
@@BroJacksonTradezi only do hour sessions usually but I agree. When you’re on a roll hitting an intense workout the feeling is unmatched
I think I'll just stick to my 69 push ups before sleep
I will spend the next 1 hour, 1 minute and 37 seconds edging to the sound of Dr. Mikes voice. Glorious.
There's a replay button for a reason bro
It just hits harder the first time around, you can't recreate that rush once you've heard it bro@@tyvekhomewrap9164
Nothing makes me harder than doing HIT training while Dr Mike tells me how wrong and stupid I am
seems like a joke but we both know better
That is so hot❤
The fact that people are talking more about Mike Mentzer today than 45 years ago when he was in his prime is absolutely amazing.
Right 💀💀
Would love to see blud lifting now
Posthumous glorification is sometimes the case with luminaries that were under-appreciated by their contemporary audience/peers. Many poets, authors, political thinkers, philosophers, etc., are now more famous and respected than when they were alive. That said, it is often in these cases that the modern audience misinterprets or misrepresents or reduces (loss of nuance) the offerings of that dead person (and they are not around now, obviously, to offer any correction or clarification or challenge or demonstration of how their own thinking changed on the subject in their own life).
Internet+increased popularity of bodybuilding and gym culture
Historic people are generally talked about more after their death than while they're alive.
Mostly just algorithm induced hype.
I’m doing more of a Mentzer and Jones plan and I’m having the best results of my life with no injuries thus far. Thank you Mike and Arthur 🙌🏻
Yeah. I mean, all I know is that when I started doing only one set push ups to almost failure only once every 3-5 days, my reps absolutely shot up. So,,:maybe HIT doesn’t work for everyone or every exercise...I don’t know...but it sure seems to work for me.
@@collectivismkills
Anything will work, as long as you rest enough and then do it again. People who criticize Mentzer (or any other approach) are just mad over nothing
Me to, I did 2/3 different programs for a 1 year and a half. Discovered Mentzer last summer and the result has been amazing since. Not just muscles, but also my mind is better. I am much more focused at training and at my diet.
I realy do not care anymore about everybody out there who wants to attack MM, his program for training, diet and resting has worked Wonder for me.
First I was very sceptic, but then I just went for it and never looked back.
He stil be wrong or very wrong about somethings, I have my self changed some of it, like not doing superset anymore, but if his program is wrong, my experince is that many other programs is much more wrong.
@@HerkulesNorskYep. I hear you and agree. And for me, as an older lifter (51 years), doing more than like a 45min workout is too much. I noticed with doing only one set, maybe 2 here and there, to relative failure, and then taking a day or two off between workouts, I could still progress without burning out. As I’m not on PEDs or even any TRT, it’s a very delicate balance at my age between progress and burnout.
I discovered HIT almost by accident. During workouts I would do some exercises only one set for times sake, and because they were not my favorite. Interestingly though, it was in these exercises that I saw the most progress…quite rapid actually. This was surprising to me, but then I ran into Mentzer on youtube and it made sense. Maybe his program is not the end all be all, but it seems to work for me rather well. The only mod I make is to not go to absolute failure, but only relative failure (one or two reps before).
Same here
Respect for keeping the Shake Weight in the background, game recognize game
lmfao busted
I thought I was imagining that
Avert your gaze miscreants. This is the members only version that was accidentally uploaded to SerfTube
So you're sayin there's a chance...
Much needed W for the peasants
😅
Im here to eat your content rich boy
We're not worthy! But will take it
As someone who also does this, I very much respect your ability to create unorthodox allegories or analogies like "the HIT Monster" and just run with them for extended periods of time.
One of us...
The line about gaining wisdom through intelligently absorbing what the crowd is doing is a great example of why I love my membership here. The gems about life.
I loved that too. Reminds me of Bruce Lee's philosophy. It was something along the lines of "Take in what is useful, reject what is useless, add what is specifically your own."
Chat gpt-4.....Hitt monster frienz....
its free hehehe
Definitely true though. If you work your way smartly through that crowd it's very likely that there are both experts and professional practitioners in the crowd. They've got the good stuff
Mike was right about a lot of stuff, and so was Dorian Yates. Nothing but respect for them.
Thank you. People who say their training philosophy doesn’t work either didn’t give it a fair chance or did not do it properly.
@@justaguy5345or they’re scared to try something different
@@icetray2727Very true. Sad thing is I almost can’t blame them. When I first tried it I was worried it wasn’t going to work. It was a leap of faith, but when I saw my performance explode in such a short amount of time… I knew this would be the only way I would train for the rest of my life. Thank god I listened to Dorian and Mike.
@@justaguy5345 for me, I’m not a slave to the gym anymore and my social life isn’t suffering
@@justaguy5345I’ve been using his methods for close to two years now and tweaked it overtime.
My way is a warmup set, light set close to failure at 12-15 rep range, then two sets 6-10 reps with a drop set or pause set to ensure failure and get more volume in.
What’s your way of working out?
That Ronnie Coleman impersonation is crazy
That wasn't Ronnie stepping in for the shot?
where is it? I don't want to listen to the whole thing
25:10
@@mk677hd thanks
It was to make up for the upcoming terrible Bruce Lee impression 😆
Honestly you can counter a lot of teachings of Mike Mentzer with modern science be it a single set per muscle or holding muscle in concentric position for a time. But you can't deny the fact that dude was way ahead of his time considering his views on high intensity, recovery and removal of junk volume from training. Dude pretty much set up the foundation of modern exercise science.
modern science lol, modern science is only modern today, tomorrow it will change, science is the only profession where you can be wrong over and over again and still not lose your job, all you have to say is the science has changed.
@@yt_hatesfreespeech And then back up your claim so you can get scrutinized 😂
@@yt_hatesfreespeech😂😂😂😂 I don’t think you have really grasped what the scientific method is..😂😂
@@yt_hatesfreespeech well yeah, that do be the point of science
first opinion counters second. Makes no sence sorry Fanboi
56:43 That Arnold accent was spot on
"cutting slack" is something you do when on a line (rope) like in rock climbing, but i'd imagine the term comes from sailing. by cutting slack, you give them more rope to move around with, thereby giving them more freedom. when you take slack, it makes the rope tighter so it's harder to move around
Tried cutting slack then I tore my pecker off!
But why is it "cutting" slack? Does that part of the expression use a different expression? Give me some slack makes sense, but you're not cutting the slack off and handing it to them.
@@DILFDylFMay just be linguistics at work like with many other expressions in the english language. The only other origin I know for slack is the movement between train carts, meaning the space between them as they are often tied loosely. 'Cutting' may refer to 'cutting the distance' between them, making the bond tighter and reducing movement.
@@vnm.eyeless Yeah I just went back and forth with ChatGPT about it and nothing got cut, even in the nautical sense. Rope was untied to allow for more flexibility. Soooo it's just kind of a dumb expression. Give me some slack would make more sense but 🤷🏽
@DILFDylF have you never worked in any trades? There's tons of expressions like that.
10 years of natural bodybuilding and I've tried every training style, a modified variant of HIT works the best for me, closer to Dorian Yates style of training. I've made the best muscle and strength gains on HIT as a advanced lifter
Than you cant be an advanced lifter.
@@flow1188 According to who? I’m as advanced as you can get, training and health is my passion and my full time job.
@@ViktorM1 with advanced you mean that you have your fundamentals dialed in (nutrition, sleeping, recovery and technique) and also that after properly done training (example few mesocycles) you see minimal results, because you are so close to your potential that returns are diminished.
@@ViktorM1also advanced would take like minimum 10 years of optimal training (im not saying you aren't im only stating what advanced is)
@@Eustres That’s your definition of an advanced, I would say after 5 years of dialed in training and nutrition.
I’m dialed in and advanced according to your definition. And with adjustments in my training program and training style I’ve made better progress than the previous years
This is what I like about the fitness industry right now different school of ideas colliding at each other and me as a consumer pick up what I can learn to accommodate my own training needs thank you for this dr mike
shoulda wore a fake mustache for this video
I used to have one 😂
True. Missed opportunity.
I finished my 2 HIT workouts for the week before this video finished playing.
You still doing it?
Did Dr. Mike just end the Mentzer beef and start an Arnold beef?
arni is a scum so i see no problem
Would love to see dr. Mikes take on how David Goggins train. That dude is insane.
Dr. Mike is Goku in that everything he approaches is science based. Absolutely work your ass off, but be efficient and intelligent about it, and remember to eat and rest properly.
Goggins is Vegeta, work until you pass out, then get up and work again.
David isn’t really training for the purpose of hypertrophy or getting jacked, he just wants to inflect the most amount of pain upon himself and go beyond his capabilities, I read both his books he’s inhuman lol
that would be interesting but i dont think their specialties overlap a lot. it might be a mess
I wouldn't say Goggins works out per se. He just administers great amounts of pain to himself. He is professional pain-applier. I think he would die before he starts getting sufficient rest and limit himself so as to not overtrain.
@@Iron.Historian Self destructive behaviour comes in many forms
So glad this is released. This is awesome! Thank you Dr Mike. I’ve tagged RP in a few Mentzer video looking for these answers.
Before critiquing Mike Mentzer's training method, better 1st have a look at this book and the links:
High-Intensity Training the Mike Mentzer Way book
Mike Mentzer and the science of heavy duty training
th-cam.com/video/ZmPeiTucPiA/w-d-xo.html
Mike Mentzer did not build all his size with volume training
th-cam.com/video/G2L3Y7FPHas/w-d-xo.html
Why have I only just realised Mike counts on the back of his hand
He is a robot
"I'll just block you." -- Most of Mike's humor goes over (or under) my head, but this one got me lol. So did his "beast" imitation and Ronnie Coleman imitation! ... Another great video that is sure to stir up all the Mike Mentzer fan boys, maybe the Randroids, too.
Yo Dr. Mike, just want to thank you. I bought your book, built my weight loss plan and my diet from what I know from you. Works fantastically well.
If you're going to talk about HIT, you should also do a video on how Dorian Yates trained.
Mike should train with him. That would be fun... but not for Mike :-)
@@RBC0405I would pay to see the tables turned on Mike lol
Yates didn’t do just one set. High intensity sure but not one set. And neither did Mentzer.
@@gporr7004 yes they did wtf?
@@Scion15 Yates didn't lol. Mike did after he reached his peak
Mike Mentzers voice sounds as if he was constantly talking through an old phone.
He was. Tapes recorded through fone
his voice was muffled by the moustache
The technology used then is a pretty long time ago
And I love it
Drive out to the sticks in Pennsylvania and it'll sound like that when you're buying gas or getting an oil change
Making me glad I didn't get those Rand tattoos when I was 18. Sorry for your luck. Love the content bro!
Amazing video for so many reasons! Loving the hypertrophy app btw!
I've never been a podcast or TH-cam guy until I found your channel. Your advice and input has certainly broadened my view and helped me look at everything from the gym to life in another light. I certainly enjoy the content and always love seeing more
Dr. Mike doing Mentzer justice. An awesomely nuanced critique of a legendary bodybuilder that certainly deserves more respect than he gets...
I would love more of this philosophical long videos, very entertaining, interestin, and your houmor is great to keep one interested. Amazing video, more please!
If you’re interested in hearing the ideas of the specific philosophy in the video, the Ayn Rand Institute’s YT channel has a lot of good information on the history of philosophy in general as well as objectivism specifically. It’s cool you’re intrigued about philosophy 😎
Yup, and I never get sick of his humor.
@@Torgomasta Thank you! If i was going to know more about a specific philosophy, then i would read about it. I would also say Dr. Mike's other youtube channel is good if you wanna see specifically him discuss ideas, which was kinda what i was requesting, but i would also like to see that philosophical discussion with exercise science too, because nerding out is fun. But cool, i'll check out Ayn Rand, thanks for the suggestion.
I def piss myself alot with Dr mikes jokes
Loved the part about getting work focused, not goal focused. I think this is so important. People ask me what I’m training for… I’m not training for anything. I’m training to get better, forever, or for as long as I possibly can. It’s about habits for me, not end goals. Goals give you a reason to quit, stop or question yourself, if you get there.
Not sure that I fully agree with this. Having smaller goals that build towards a greater trajectory of achievement can be really great for sustaining motivation.
Keeps me not just going, but pushing myself to do better.
That’s true but I also agree with the reply above me😂😂
Definitely some good advice you had at the end of the video… find then do what works for you.
Lots of hookups in band class. We had practice rooms with locks on the doors. Field trips with overnight hotel stays and access to school property well outside of regular hours.
Sounds pretty
Ghhheeeey
That is very nice.
You should report that teacher.
My new favorite thing on the Intranet now is Dr. Mike saying "slay" 🤣
Conductors are responsible for keeping ALL of the instruments aligned in tempo, as well as increasing a decreasing the volume of any group of instruments or individual to better match the music being played. They also are responsible for indicating where inflections of certain instruments come into play. They don't just wave their wands to the beat.
Just awsome stuff as always👍
What about the part where Mentzer speaks on realistic amounts of muscle that can be gained and the amount of calories and protein required for gaining muscle? Especially the part where he talks about how muscle is primarily composed of water. I think that would be an interesting topic to dissect.
He was in med school so he know quite lot about that stuff
@@jimi1943We didn’t know dick about nutrition 40 years ago. Most “educated” people TODAY still don’t know dick.
Cut slack = to cut a length of rope/chain/tether slightly longer than necessary, to account for length lost in context such as use of knots/bindings/variability(eg, tide coming in/out)/whatever.
Cut, because it's literally cut.
Slack, because if you pull the length across a space as long as the length strictly required, having 'slack' will literally leave the length slack as opposed to taut.
Intermediary to the saying, to give slack on a tether (think letting a dog's lead/leash go a bit) you're giving a little freedom to whatever/whoever is tethered.
So, colloquially, cutting slack = giving someone a little extra leeway because of context or to avoid being unduly restrictive.
This actually felt like a one hour comedy session. I'm working while listening to this and burst out laughing especially at the end.
Thank you Mike :)
Educative and hilarious at the same time.
THIS!! Great post.
Volumegoober can't fathom the high intensity chad
Hit goober can't fathom the volume chad
Voltensity can't fathom gooberchad.
@@logomarkz lift heavy, lift hard, lift with intensity or remain the same
@@Titan_ooo mans the type of guy to do light weight volume training and wonder why he's not growing or making progress mans also keeps up with the lastest lifting literature and still makes no gains
@@kaldordraigo4020I used to think you have to lift heavy too. Till I constantly kept getting hurt and would have to almost felt like start over. Started using less weight with better form and I’m larger than I’ve ever been and most importantly I haven’t gotten injured in forever. Kudos to the people who constantly lift heavy but I can’t do it. Too many injuries lol.
People get so caught up in one way of doing things when in reality they are all great. There are tons of approaches that work. It’s best to cycle through all of them rather than just do 1. If you only do high volume light weight bro split it works great for a while but progress slows so instead of staying with that you should switch low high intensity low volume, then go to full body circuits, then push/ pull/ legs. Then back to the bro split. Keep your body guessing and get the benefits of all these programs.
If a new or intermediate comes up to me and asks "which bodybuilders program should I copy", which answer is best?
Ronnie Coleman? Jay Cutler? Arnold?
No: Mike Mentzer.
Why? For 2 main reasons:
1) It teaches proper technique, intensity and appreciation of recovery from the get go, and
2) It can be expanded upon.
Starting with 3 workouts a week, 1-2 exercises per bodypart is a great foundation.
Perfect it then starting adding. Add to the Leg Extension and Leg Press a Hack Squat and see what happens.
Add to the Chest Fly and Chest Press some Cable Crossovers and see what happens.
But with it all done with:
1) Full ROM
2) To or near failure
3) Emphasis on the negative
4) With plenty of recovery
It's a great foundation.
Love the thoroughness
As someone who has been in band and orchestra since 6th grade and now teaches orchestra, I feel honored to be made fun of by Dr. Mike.
😂😂. Yes it’s hilarious because he is a PhD, no bigger nerds out there. Right? So on some level he has to respect the educated. But he is a meathead too. Which makes it funny. Also funny because what side does he really stand on, PhD or meathead? I’m joking because of course you can be both. But it’s funny to play the total gym meathead too. 👍🇺🇸👍🇺🇸👍🇺🇸
I am trying to get as strong as possible, but i have to also do alot of endurance training and i fund that 1 set till failure and 2 sets per muscle group works really well for me and prevents over training.
I really appreciate the Space Ice recommendation, shit’s pure gold.
"Cut me some slack" was a nautical phrase used to express a need for extra length of rope when purchased to reduce the issue of insufficient cordage. Venders or rope makers would cut specific lengths from large spools so the need to have "extra slack cut" was a common request. Like a bakers dozen type situation.
I've come to the realization that Mentzer and Arnold were the two extremes. Very low volume to extremely high volume (two workouts per day). Most people need something in the middle. The trick is to figure out what's optimal for you.
simply become Tom Platz
That is not how Arnold actually trained. Don't believe the bullshit that Hitters say about him.
Basically what I've come up with as well. Using RP techniques/protocols is a good place to start. At least for me it was
Fun thing about Dorian, he didnt do ONE set. He would do one or two top sets per lift and worked up to it with multiple warmups, so his volume was higher than descriptions of his workout would let on, some of those probably more than close enough to working sets themselves to “count” for everyone but Dorian.
Agreed. Mentzer didn’t just do one set either.
36:19 I believe cutting slack is referring to tailoring pants, if you have a pair with more material you have more play room to maybe size it up or down easier after the fact.
Just subbed. Such a good bodybuilding channel
Can we all agree Mike Mentzer voice has the ability to make you believe the unbelievable
Not just his voice but his logic and proven methods
Do the Mike Mentzer pre-workout challenge
Dope vid, Lot of insight to be made
We need to get subtitles for Scott in every video
I got the biggest and strongest I've ever been doing Doggcrapp. Stayed away from it for years and years because I thought there's no way that's enough to be effective, boy was I wrong
3 workouts a week. Back and bi's, chest and tri's, legs and core. Some moves overlap some muscle uses from workout to workout but that's inevitable. Everything is to failure and it's all high volume since it's only 3x a week. So high intensity, high volume 3x a week. Around 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight every day. My back and bi's(including shoulders) is around 20-22 sets, two-four of them being warm ups. Chest and tri's is around 13 sets, two of them being warm up, and same with legs and core with only 1 squat set being a warm up set.
To your point at about the 12 min mark. When i started lifting. I was over training. But the results were cool to me. In 6 or 8 months. I was in a facility "job corps". I just lifted in all of my free time. I never gained weight. But muscles were hard. At 155 i could curl 60 lbs reps of 3 sets of 10 eazy. They didnt have 70's. Chest shredded. Benching around 185 3 sets 10. . Its nothing major. But i started around 95lbs. (6 months) Its just i wasnt eating extra. Just stayed in the gym. A 16 yo. Point its. You can train not eat and be thin shredded and strong. Prolly gained about 5 lbs in that time. Wish i knew what you were preaching now. I wanted to be big. But i was amazed at my change regardless. .
I agree with Mike on this one
I think that Dr Israel should don the "Mentzer Moustache" and short-shorts..... he'll be a HIT advocate in no time
I think there a T in there.
This is a great conversation
A very well done review and offering of different perspectives mixed in with modern research updates. Opening minds with humor and knowledge is the best combination.
Can we get an optimal workout routine for 3 days a week? Which combines sufficient volume and HIT High Intensity Training philosophy.
Like a Modern HIT. Make a video on this.
3 working days, spaced apart by 2 days of rest is what I do for deloading/HIT phase.
Only 3k views in 10 minutes? They did not fall off 🎉🎉🎉
I bought the “partial reps don’t count” tank and I’ve gotten several compliments. Thanks Mike.
Fortunately, it's not all about science. Some people just need an effective abbreviated routine due to other obligations; however, as we know, ,there are not big differences in results from different routines. The big difference lies in genetics. Hard to debunk something that has thousands of satisfied customers, and unless if you've used it for at least six months (a year is better) one cannot make a judgment.
Oh god its a hour long, hell yeah
I'm gonna fold so much laundry, I'm hype 😂😂
@@StayTh1rsty If ur hype your mom is probably folding your laundry! jk jk
This might be the definitive video on the issue. There are many good points Mentzer made but this resurgence of HIT is one of the most baffling things that happened in the fitness space and I was there in the early days of TH-cam fitness when even bosu balls had their day in the Sun
Honestly, it's probably because the fitness influencer space is 90% on gear and if you're a natural you shouldn't train like someone on gear.
@@TiberiusX same case could be made for HIT. PEDs can also let you get away with less work and still grow rapidly quicker than a natural. A happy balance between volume, intensity, and recovery is all it takes. Sht's really not as complicated as some people make it seem. You don't need 20-30 sets per muscle....but that doesn't mean you only need 1 or 2... and lately everyone seems to think it has to be one or the other, without considering all the in between and the nuance.
@EnigmaticAnamoly I think most people are somewhere in between from what I've seen. Not even the channels named after Mentzer think that his final workout plan was as good as his earlier plans.
Most gear is designed to decrease recovery time which is why high volume works for them.
I think perhaps it might seem like there are so many idealogues now is because his actual recordings are finally being published on TH-cam so more people are giving it a try. If you've been taking advice from people on gear who claim they aren't, then you try HIT you'll see results. Probably just because so many over train.
Also, it's highly likely that most of the people who are espousing his routines DON'T plan to compete. They aren't working out to compare to anyone but themselves, I'm certainly never planning to compete, so why would I risk injury with overtraining if I'm personally seeing good results.
I have considered experimenting with doing two sets instead of one, or working out every other day but with the same exercises to see if I get better results, but so far I've just pushed my working sets to the absolute limit and went home to eat a steak and it's worked pretty well so far.
What drew me most to HIT training was seeing Dorian tearing his tricep due to not recovering enough & ronnie coleman's injuries due to over training. What I get most from his work is a set of principles in to apply individually which was what he actually recommended outside of his books which were just examples of what he was philosophy to training. 1 set & consolidated programs were not what he prescribed for everyone but based on how you recovered from lifting to failure with proper form. as far as quote 7 i think its in reference to being the hero of your own life, like only you can really change your life
The original Arthur Jones program was full body 3 times a week, which is what the Penn State football program was doing in the early to mid 80's, the whole weight room was nautilus with one Olympic bar in the corner, we had the most neck and shoulder injuries, we would have benefited from mentzers modifications, but Penn State eventually realized a full machine workout was not optimal for football training, I actually got weaker my first year, it took me going home my 2cd summer and getting trained by Bryan Greenberg on free weights, I never got a football injury again once I got off the machines
An hour of glory
So true! My preworkout routine consisted of this video and food- baller! Lol!
Even if you prove 1000 times that more volume is better, once you discover that you can still make gains from fewer sets a few times /week, it’s hard to justify going balls to the wall on volume ever again. Even when I add more volume beyond a few sets per body part (normal), I do not feel like I make better gains.
Honestly, if nothing else, I put so much more into my one set that I ever did 3x10. And though I've considered going every 3 days instead of every 4, I get so pumped to workout on gym days, and I sometimes still feel soreness on day 3.
@@TiberiusX same, 100% same.
especially since not everyone is rich enough to workout all day and they have a limited time frame to get a lot of work done in the gym
You all are saying exactly what I’ve been saying
You can make gains off anything so long as you have recovery figured out. I've done HIT but get a lot more size and strength gains from more volume and higher frequency
Dude I absolutely love this content and you’re funny as fuck 😂 I’m sticking with you!
My new favourite youtube channel.
Is that a shake weight in the background?
His concept is pretty good for people who can't stay long in the gym. Maybe after they're comfortable they can change routine.
My personal opinion is that goals can be helpful for me as short term benchmarks along my overall trajectory of desired achievement.
They keep me working hard and motivated. For a while it was trying to get my first body-weight pull-up. So I modified my training to work in that direction for a couple months. Really pushed myself hard.
Then it was trying to build a stronger, more powerful chest because I was having trouble pushing against people in BJJ. So I modified my training and really focused on a controlled but powerful concentric and a slow, controlled eccentric.
For a while there I focused on shortening my 5k run time to get to a pace that’s under 9.5 min/mile.
Because my overall goal is total body health and fitness, in addition to performing well climbing and for BJJ purely for my enjoyment.
This kind of cyclical training works for me because it keeps me not just working, I’ll do that regardless, but working hard.
Wish you would’ve wore a fake mustache and glasses for this video! LOL
Mike Mentzer keeping you big as hell
Your anecdotes and dead pan humor is right up my alley.
Omg listen to 19:17-19:19 out of context. Thats hilarious.
Also I just found ur videos tonight from a friend from the gym and I'm hooked
Stronger you are the less work you can do to get a response. Platz worked out legs every 2 weeks at his peak. Sterons definitely help from going catabolic in the off time.
What’s a steron?
I dont know , ehats a steron with you😂@@JM-83
Volumegoober can't fathom the high intensity chad.
I’d love to see him review the workouts and/or try them…the ones from the 90s before his death look brutal
Pre exhaust training has really helped me in my training as i became older. I am 48 years old and i train no more than 4 times a week a hour each session
Mentzer literally recommended 5 working sets per muscle group, a week. He went on to say train to failure and once you reach the intermediate level, to increase intensity instead of volume by doing things such as:
Pre Exhaustion
Peak contraction
Forced reps
Negative reps
Rest pause training
Partial reps
Static contractions
All of which has been backed by modern meta analysis so I’m not sure why we’re still debating this
It's hard to find a compilation of all of Mentzer's teachings and I think Dr. Mike doesn't want to go and track down everything he ever said (fair enough) so he is making assumptions of what Mentzer meant based off of little context. I'm with you though. Pretty much all that Mentzer has said should compile the routine of an advanced lifter are backed by studies that Dr. Mike frequently references.
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Before critiquing Mike Mentzer's training method that progressed throughout the years, I wish Dr. Mike 1st had a look at this book and the links:
High-Intensity Training the Mike Mentzer Way book
Mike Mentzer and the science of heavy duty training
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Mike Mentzer did not build all his size with volume training
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The visualization part, makes it more real, Arnold was big into that too, when visualizing his muscles, it makes it more real, or more comparable to current reality and then easier to move towards, vs if it was just written down
Mike Mentzers HIT is the greatest thing I've ever done. At 60 years of age my arms have grown by over an inch in the last 8 months. What people just can't get through their heads. Is you need TIME to grow to your full potential. I need 6 days between workouts. I found this out 8 months ago. My god the gains are coming.
Forced choir through middle school and orchestra. Went and played college football to balance it out.
Youre still gay in my eyes tho
Mentzer is was a genius, he's like Obi-wan, guiding principals are all there, people can argue over how many sets till they are blue in the face.
I still see people overtraining all the time and undertraining all the time. You take his slowed tempo reps and throw burnout reps in there at the end of your working sets you have the Houdini secret lever.
the real genius was Vince Gironda
I put on decent muscle in college on a bro split. Then did no lifting for a few years until i read Heavy Duty. I got back in the gym, and made gains quicker than ever. It made me think HIT was indeed optimal. Then i eventually realized my gains were fast because of muscle memory. Now i follow a more adaptive approach to volume and intensity.
Absolutely brilliant conclusion! Use what works for you and be inquisitive enough to read and experiment and figure it out.
Mike you’re a good guy but just get to the point
Yapping olympics, and I ain’t compare
How dare you!
We are here for the talking bro , not just facts, we need fun too
Ayn Rand? Stick to workout stuff Mike, your other thoughts are pure garbage
yeah man mikes other channel gave me whiplash😂 he's got amazing advice on working out but otherwise 😅
Another great video Dr. Mike! I appreciate the HIT philosophy, but my grumpy masters body insists on a little less intensity and little more volume.