Is Muscle Memory Real? Debunked (Why it's a meme)

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  • @Dazs
    @Dazs  4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    As a community we shift and learn to focus on words such as mouse control, hand eye coordination, reactivity, and reading skills!

    • @giurgeatudor6978
      @giurgeatudor6978 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But a lot of pros say: don't change your sensitivity

    • @GhostGhosty
      @GhostGhosty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@giurgeatudor6978 I think what the pros mean is: "don't change your sensitivity every time you have a bad round".

    • @Kasspirr
      @Kasspirr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What if I play different games which have different aiming mechanics and sensitivities, should I also change sens sometimes?

    • @danielkim255
      @danielkim255 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kasspirr change sensitivity if you don’t like it. But ideally you should have a higher sens in apex than CSGO, but again it is preference.

    • @Healp145
      @Healp145 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kasspirr you talking about quake? Accel could help

  • @scotty_teee4226
    @scotty_teee4226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Happy to hear that I'm not the only one who will switch around sensitivity while aim training. Always grinding to see if anything works better and in what situation. Been loving these videos! Keep up the good work

  • @GamingThroughLife
    @GamingThroughLife 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Makes sense. You can pretty much relate it to working out. Say you're stuck at doing 15 pull ups and can't get past that. If you work out the individual muscles that you use to do a pull up eventually you'll be able to surpass that number

  • @DanKurtt
    @DanKurtt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I changed sensitivity since I can remember (33 years old now), I never had the feeling it impacted me, I switches from 70cm/360 to 20cm/360 and still came out pretty decent it's all in the head, if you overthink this it will have an effect on you. Plus like Dazs said, it gives you a breath of fresh air.

    • @dariusus9870
      @dariusus9870 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did so as well but after i got comfortable with a lower sens, increasing it proved 100% to be worse for me. Can't track well with high sensitivity. Just ny experience

  • @EscBackspace
    @EscBackspace 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how 6 years ago as a console player, I was watching NoVa to see how battlefield montages were actually done. ( trying to replicate them myself in my own way ). Now I recently started switching to PC an im still here watching this channel, watching for a whole different reason. Seriously cool to think about.

  • @iStorm-my5fp
    @iStorm-my5fp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Your passion for your content really comes thru

    • @Dazs
      @Dazs  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you man

  • @sourav2149
    @sourav2149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What ur doing is so underrated bro..i wish it had more reach 😍

    • @Dazs
      @Dazs  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much 😀

  • @shadowshrimp3789
    @shadowshrimp3789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thx m8. Im kind a new to this and your videos have helped my improvement in aiming in a huge way. When i started to play apex legends (my first fps game) it took me like 10-15 games to get my first kill🙈 now im use to get to platinum and even manage to reach dimond one season. I am so happy ppl like you exist. Keep up the good work👊

    • @gunnify371
      @gunnify371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Play Siege, Rainbow six siege

  • @mrhappyfaq32
    @mrhappyfaq32 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Always thought that the muscle memory thing is BS! In a game like apex, you use various types of scopes with different types of zoom and hence different types of sensitivities so you should focus on the ability to adapt.

    • @Dazs
      @Dazs  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, in time it will feel way more natural! :)

    • @cameronbethea123
      @cameronbethea123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Apex scales the same sensitivity across scopes using 0% monitor distance matching, this basically means that your sens on 2x sight at 200 meters is exactly the same as a 1x sight at 100 meters.

  • @BIackSkillX
    @BIackSkillX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So what do you think about mouse acceleration?

  • @cjfromgtasanadreas
    @cjfromgtasanadreas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my experience, I adjust in a few minutes and think "wow this is better for me, much lower", but next day I suck and I realize it was a big mistake and the one I'm used to I should stick to. Not saying muscle memory is real, but what's real is my wrist, it wants that sens for a reason

  • @Psyko_Rigidity3276
    @Psyko_Rigidity3276 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really enjoy all your recent content about the "physiology" behind aiming. Most of youtubers/streamers aren't interested by aim trainers and all the stuff around aim training in general. "aIM TraIN3rs Ar3 UseLeSs, jUsT plAy th3 game y0u waNt t0 B3 GooD"

    • @Dazs
      @Dazs  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I appreciate that! Goal of the channel is to always help peeps! :)

  • @raquilesmillan007
    @raquilesmillan007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video man! It makes sense now why I used to be able to play on stupidly high sensitivities on a controller with no problem off the start. I’m still in the faster side on m&k but it’ll be experimenting more after this!

  • @sinizap
    @sinizap 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Aim

    • @Dazs
      @Dazs  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Legend!

  • @LowTonin
    @LowTonin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think when most people talk about muscle memory, all they're referring to is the "comfort zone" or the actions they're used to repeating. According to your video, comfort zone and getting used to repeated actions is very real. I'm not seeing how it's a meme.

    • @Dazs
      @Dazs  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is an issue on most videos and forums where they truly believe doing the same movement and changing a sensitivity destroys your aim. The way peeps should approach it is that they are improving hand eye coordination no matter what if they are actually practicing and looking to grow!

  • @daemon985
    @daemon985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Muscle memory still exists? There's physical changes around motor neurons that can be observed which proves it does exist. I do agree that I'm most cases your hand-eye coordination and dexterity are going to be a bigger determining factor on whether you hit your shot or not, but that doesn't mean that muscle memory doesn't exist or that you debunked it.

    • @Dazs
      @Dazs  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Issue for those gaming is they focus on "If I move my hands this way XYZ amount of times, I can perfect my aim" But as you stated and I did as well, its about the physical changes, mouse control, growing, improving. I and well as the those who are aim enthusiast want those who strive for improvement NOT to be afraid to work those muscles by changing a sensitivity, trying a new grip style, finding what is comfortable or even not comfortable to grow. So your comment is exactly my point. :)

    • @Dazs
      @Dazs  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We are in agreement. Just debunking for those who are stuck on another notion. That is the problem.

  • @inutero3516
    @inutero3516 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    my only problem with muscle memory is when im holding a corner, then shoot from absolutely butt fuck nowhere even though nobody even went past the corner

  • @E4SYM0NEYY
    @E4SYM0NEYY 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    @dazs what it’s your dpi and game sens

    • @Dazs
      @Dazs  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      800 dpi and 1.523 sens

  • @benediktotto6191
    @benediktotto6191 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting video, with clearly a lot a passion behind it. You have a new subscriber in me! One thing I was wandering while watching this: Should the whole idea of a muscle memory be disregarded now, or only some aspects of it? And how are things like flick shots possible if it isn't for some kind of memory?

    • @Dazs
      @Dazs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The goal is to push people to learn muscle control. The more control you have within your muscles the better you are going to be flexible to any variable and situation. Flicking to the same spot will build muscle control. But its more effective to have overall control so flicks anywhere are easier.

    • @Dazs
      @Dazs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      appreciate you supporting and watching! :)

    • @benediktotto6191
      @benediktotto6191 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Dazs Thank you very much for the quick reply. Much appreciated :-) I will probably have quite a few more questions in the future, so I took the chance to join your discord server. Sounds like I'd be at the right place with you guys :-)

  • @armjr7501
    @armjr7501 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow the timing. ive been binge watching your vids (again). but this time i just searched muscle memory myth and it says you uploaded 12 hours ago :D haha

  • @Poppaai
    @Poppaai 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great dazs! Your passion for aiming is pure love :)

  • @Sarius59231
    @Sarius59231 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    After watching this I'm gonna try higher sens for now and see what happens

  • @KiritoAims
    @KiritoAims 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you show great emotion on this video Love it :D

  • @dayarode6120
    @dayarode6120 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro, this is the science of mouse control and game aim

  • @々-g1z
    @々-g1z 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    HoppCX repping the krunker community at the 250 spot

  • @kira_ow
    @kira_ow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:09 the mouse pad point doesn't take anything away from muscle memory. if something is gonna change that causes the variable to change then it's obviously going to impact the aim? but if the mouse pad doesn't change then the there's no need for adaptation. Muscle memory is real those who make well worded nonsense to disprove it are just trying to make a point that isn't there to prove. that's why someone who hasn't played smash Bros melee in 10 years can pick up and instantly wavedash. And with a few weeks/months be at the same level of player as they were 10 years ago.
    people like to use the word muscle memory and give it its own terms , but someone who has been on the same sensitivity for 10 years is going to have a better feel / control of their mouse then someone who has just played pc for one week and switched their sensitivity everyday.

    • @peregrine3400
      @peregrine3400 ปีที่แล้ว

      The argument for the mouse pad is simply a way to highlight a bigger issue for muscle memory: variables. In a game where you have to react by coordinating your eyes and your hands incredibly fast, no muscle memory can form because there's too many possible movements your mouse can make. Moreover, this is about FPS games, and muscle memory doesn't apply to it like it does in smash. In smash or any other fighting game you need to follow precise inputs very quickly, that means that you CAN develop muscle memory to accurately hit those buttons in quick succession, but that simply does not apply to the aiming of an FPS because you're not constantly repeating a string of combos. An on your last point, are you crazy? Of course someone who has been playing for 10 years will have a better feel than someone who has played for one week, just like I'll cook enchiladas better than you if I've been doing it for 10 years and you've been doing it for 1 week 😂 Sensitivity is totally irrelevant if you're comparing someone with 10+ years of experience to someone with 1 week, it's absurd to even imply what you just did because the metrics used are extreme.

    • @fica1137
      @fica1137 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao some of the top Voltaic aimers switch sensitivity weekly or even daily yet you will never reach their aim level

  • @zitchaden
    @zitchaden 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sens randomizer moment

  • @Mizzarc
    @Mizzarc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    But refining skills is muscle memory same as hand eye coordination

    • @Dazs
      @Dazs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Goal of the video is to push people away thinking they memorize movement. You are building muscle. Not the movement.
      Because movement changes. You know? Maybe mouse mat is more humid, maybe it’s dirtier, maybe it is more broken than a month ago.
      But your hand muscles do grow. Meaning you can change sensitivity settings and still perform great.

    • @Mizzarc
      @Mizzarc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dazs Yeah That makes sense. but what would you say about people that are console would it be the same sorta thing with the mouse pad?

  • @Husk3yGames
    @Husk3yGames 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great note about muscle memory. ❤

  • @JimmyStark77
    @JimmyStark77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You been playing games since you were born, so it is not muscle memory.
    Its called "Fine motor skills"

  • @ToastofWar
    @ToastofWar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I've heard of that Volty community before or sumn..

    • @Dazs
      @Dazs  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Heard they have amazing aim, even that toast dude. I see him high ranked on the scoreboard ;)

    • @ToastofWar
      @ToastofWar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dazs Oh yeah that dude!
      Yeah that guy.. that guy sucks.

  • @iStorm-my5fp
    @iStorm-my5fp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great b roll usage dazs!!!!

    • @Dazs
      @Dazs  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked it! :D :D

  • @exoticlothing777
    @exoticlothing777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    make a update.

  • @abudujanabf7047
    @abudujanabf7047 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ahhhh this video was very confusing and misleading and u did contradicted yer self i even had to google the meaning of muscle memory agein its literly short term for anything that involves yer body motor skill (so mouse control, hand eye coordination, reactivity, and reading skills) are just separate terms that u can describe by just syaing muscle memory wich can be achived by repetition and yes my dude the joke is when a kovaaks player( since you said that kovaaks players do not belive in that term) trying to tell me that he can use 180% full mouse pad and 360% full mouse pad sensitivity and have exact pixel for pixel same first shot bullet accuracy with out any practice or getting use to it and if u need those that means u need yer muscle memory to memorize the movement yer body needs to achiv the goals u aiming at sorry for my bad english but i hope u get the idea

    • @Dazs
      @Dazs  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      appreciate this comment, yes the topic itself can be confusing. Through repetition you learn and improve. But the issue is when someone believes they can memorize every single movement and say "THATS muscle memory". That is not. To improve you need all the terms you listed for improved motor skill. Don't be afraid to test sensitivities or change things to improve. Otherwise you short change yourself. But this is a hard topic in general and its why there are DOZENS of articles on it. In sports muscle memory has a different meaning even. If you worked out a ton, your muscles do have memory on how to build themselves back up again. But comments like this are awesome, helps so when someone else is confused they will read this! :)

    • @abudujanabf7047
      @abudujanabf7047 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dazs yeah i kinda do undestand what u mean but it woud be awesome if u coud make another video letter to summarise and explain to ppl that there is 2 difrent types of aim one based on muscle memory such as flicking difrent distance with first shot accuracy pre aiming and pre firing common spots and angles and real aim such as correctional and readjusting aim when target hit boxes shift or u have to deal with extra movement

  • @crane5037
    @crane5037 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish Aimer7 got more credit.

  • @dariusus9870
    @dariusus9870 ปีที่แล้ว

    Makes sens.

  • @hikkamorii
    @hikkamorii 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice animations mate

    • @Dazs
      @Dazs  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you man! :)

  • @Snook_
    @Snook_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You didn't really add any actual evidence, studies or science to this, merely expressed your opinion. So plainly speaking you could be right but you could also be 100% dead wrong.
    Lets put it this way, barely any pro gamers change their sense constantly. That should be a good indicator of what to do and not to do... Just play the game of choice a shitload and naturally you will get sharp at it.

    • @joedementiabiden8063
      @joedementiabiden8063 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're wrong lmao

    • @kayn1661
      @kayn1661 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joedementiabiden8063 how is he wrong?

    • @joedementiabiden8063
      @joedementiabiden8063 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kayn1661 Becuase lots of pros change their sens constantly. Get into the aiming community and you'll even have people with God aim say they change their sens constantly.
      I do kovaaks, right? I go on people's steam profiles with the highest scores and in their bios they even say they change their sens all the time lmao

  • @saramiller777
    @saramiller777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really interesting video 😀

    • @Dazs
      @Dazs  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you think so! :)

  • @stefanschwarz1232
    @stefanschwarz1232 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet, bro!! :)

  • @coleM
    @coleM 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    crazy

  • @NOSgamer0
    @NOSgamer0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Muscle Memory is a thing.
    if u dont believe in this, than u are a casual "gamer"

    • @Healp145
      @Healp145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is a thing, just doesn’t matter much in aiming imo.

    • @peregrine3400
      @peregrine3400 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Healp145 Muscle memory is real and important when it comes to fighting games like MK, but just a really small fraction of what goes into aiming in FPS.

  • @zyix
    @zyix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow First

    • @Dazs
      @Dazs  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome! :) :)