Great job i absolutely love watching your videos. I work on hybrids and ev vehicles starting coming slowly, i absolutely love it ,but we don't do reconditioning or recycling batteries, we send them and they take care of it , or even i don't replace bad cell modules ,i remove them and install new one , or other hybrid problems ,insulation test and much more i enjoy it its fun .
Bless At our monastery, we own a Ford Fusion Hybrid & I enjoy learning about it. If nothing else but to have an idea of operation. Saw you thru Scanner Danner. Thanks 😊
One thing I don't see - what is a good vs. a bad battery. Following the Dr Prius + Torque process, 2 blocks that are below 14.4 at freeze frame minimum (13.9 and 14). In that video I think this would be a bad battery like the example and need a new battery vs. reconditioning/rebalance but this video seems to suggest rebalancing might be indicated. Can you give a clearer guideline as to what makes a good (rebalancable) battery vs. a bad one?
Exelente videos muchas gracias por estos tutorials deverdad e aprendido vastante que scanner usas Para mejor resultado de diagnosticos y pruebas en hybrids?
It would seem that a parallel “pm system” that would monitor and allow access of your discharger and charger to balance cycle, without the major disassembly process, then a periodic physical inspection / cleaning of terminals. The non neglect of fan maintenance/cleaning is an obvious simpler step to do at standard maintenance interval. Love your content and attitude in presentation for further education. Do you have a network of trainees in any of the US states?
Hi Jose, great vid! Can you tell me after reconditioning and final charging, does the battery pack need to be discharged slightly before installation into the car? Can the car accepted a 100% fully charged battery and not give a fail code?
Yes you can, The prolong harness is intended to be installed permanently into the vehicle’s battery…. Call the company and they’ll confirm…. It might not be possible in every situation because they state to not keep battery in direct sunlight while charging and also you can’t charge battery in temperatures exceeding 100 degrees
I picked up a 09 Prius that has been sitting for over a year. What’s the best way to charge the HV battery? Should I rotate the cells and charge them all in parallel? I have a lab grade power supply that I can set the voltage and current. Thanks
Thanks for this amazing content for free. U spend a lot of time explaining stuff,it’s very kind. I have a question most of the module who have to be replace it’s refurbished? Or we still can get new ?
Thank you for a great video. I drive a 2018 Prius Prime/PHEV it has 135kkm and opened since new. My question is how to check the the huge battery it has 8.8kWh, is it possible to check it with Dr. Prius App ? How to do balancing ? Thank so much for amazing videos.
If my 11 Camry has the cylindrical cells is the same process of discharging and charging? Or it’s just full charge 2 times to balance them. Also how will connect the wires for the plug to work
I have seen your video on how to charge the modules with a 12 volt battery!!! Great video! But i am wondering if there is a way to discharge them without expensive tools??? Then charge them back up with the quick 12 volt battery method? I don’t want to spend roughly $1000 on the equipment the recondition my battery. A new OEM Toyota HV battery is $1750 at my dealership. So spending that much doesn’t make a lot of sense financially for me to do. Love your videos btw!
let us know, for reconditioning batteries which device is better ( not for use, only for results), this Prolong charger/discharger or EV-Peak CQ3 individual balance charger ?
So the conclusion is I should have my 4 yr old Prius have this procedure done to it? I imagine since my battery is under warranty, there is no charge to have this reconditioning. Thank you!
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics do you think the prolong is better/more or less useful Just want to make a decision before i buy one to rebuild a 2006 prius battery with 1 bad module code in techstream
I have that one CQ3 first gen pruis tho 38 modules grrr. Watching this video because most ALL modules 7.47-7.51v trying find a answer to what the max volts each modules should be at. Wish I seen video/comment earlier today when I was discharge/charge.
@Hybrid Solution Diagnostics I have the CQ3 . Sorry for late comment I'm trying figure out what the volt for each module for 2002 1st gen pruis is supposed to be. I don't wanna over charge at 8.40 :/ the modules were ALL mostly at 7.47-7.51. I just wanted to clean the copper and maybe just put aluminum to (balance out). 12 modules I charged over 8.25 I think they will balance out I don't wanna charge anymore modules. Til in morning check the volts. What you think??
@@user-ou4ps1yt2b After much research, and personal experience, I think it is okay to charge a module up to 8.55 volts. Somewhere between 8.6 and 9 volts a Delta V will occur, indicating the battery is fully charged. If you charge a battery up to 9 volts and keep it there for more than a few minutes, you could cause the chemical (or gas) that triggers the Delta V to be used up, and then the module won't trigger the Delta V anymore. I have two SkyRC B6AC v2 chargers. Many of these chargers do not detect the Delta V (voltage drop) and can overcharge the module, and I don't see a way to limit the voltage on the upper end. I have charged modules past 8.65 volts and I think I have seen the Delta V kick in around 8.59 volts or 8.70 volts. I wonder if I damaged them. I have the Dr. Prius app on my android phone. It has a feature where you can create a log showing the voltage for each pair of modules along with speed, amps, and battery temps, and you can email the log to yourself. I then load the log into Excel. When the Prius is charging, the voltage of the paired modules can be around 9.35 volts and some as high as 9.68 volts. When the Prius starts discharging, the voltage of the modules drops to what I think is their actual voltage which is from 8.65 volts to 8.81 volts. One time, I noticed the charging voltage got up to 10.01 volts, and about 15 seconds later the ChgLimit changed from 33.2 to 0. So I think the Delta V for at least one of the modules kicked in. After this, when discharging, the voltage dropped to about 8.88 to 8.98 volts. The battery temp increased from 82 F to about 89 F in a few minutes. I do not know if this is normal behavior.
Hey my hv battery seems to charge up and down and never goes below 25%, mostly sits about half full but my check engine light still on with code p1b74. Is my battery definitely shot or still good for a while?
So, you are basically rebalancing the battery by discharging. Is the overall capacity / MAH still lower? Why not replace the cells as well? I tried to follow both videos, but I understood what I understood.
Hello bro, I am from Bangladesh I really like your all videos Bro I have a axio hybrid But 2 day ago show in my display a some notification Hybrid Battery low cooling performance at the stor place check Now what the prosiness??? Plz help me bro make a video
Hey, I would first check the cooling vents usually around the back seats. Make sure they're not clogged. Check the filter or mesh, vacuum it. If days are hot, make sure you run AC while driving.
if you are suggesting reconditioning your Hybrid battery every 3 months you are probably better off having a fresh spare to use so you are not out of a car for a week.
By any chance could you please provide me with torque specs value for the bolts on the plastic brackets that compress the battery modules. For some reason can't find any information anywhere. It's for 2008 prius.
I have a 2008 Prius. When the modules are cool and aligned properly, you can tighten the bolts down so there is no gap between the end of the rods and the plastic end pieces (without using a lot of torque). If some of the modules have expanded and do not compress back to their normal shape on their own, then it is likely they have been damaged and need to be replaced. The highest voltage you should charge modules to is about 8.55 volts. Also, charge at 5 or 6 amps at the most when charging modules individually. When charging a module, the voltage of the charger can be 9.5 volts, and when you remove the charger, the voltage of the module should not be much higher than 8.60 volts. Once the modules reach 8.55 volts, you should apply a small trickle charge to keep it at 8.55 volts for an hour or more. If you charge or discharge higher than 7.2 amps, you can damage the module.
Here, with the Prius and cars like it, no one I know has this equipment/instrumentation to rebalance an EV or Hybrid battery nor do I know of a shop that does this. How do I get This software. . Also I know of a couple that built from Him self a rechargeable system for His RV . Solar or His Engine or ac electric HE used HyBrid battery's from a Toyota ,It is a Awesome setup , a lot of Power stored up , .the battery's are out of the car So he can CHeck rebalance . Good VIdeos 5*s
This deep cycle conditioning process could easily be automented by using a simple control algorithm, if you wanted to get into the business of reconditioning batteries. This is a great idea for a business - if you can make it competitive to swapping in a new battery module.
I have an amazing online training program fully complete covering the technology and a very powerful hybrid battery training as well… send me a DM via instagram
I am here because of Scanner Danner. Great video!
Thank you A.A. Glad you liked it 😃
Great job i absolutely love watching your videos. I work on hybrids and ev vehicles starting coming slowly, i absolutely love it ,but we don't do reconditioning or recycling batteries, we send them and they take care of it , or even i don't replace bad cell modules ,i remove them and install new one , or other hybrid problems ,insulation test and much more i enjoy it its fun .
A brilliant video! Paul Danner recommended your channel and I am thankful that he did! Cheers from Cincinnati, Ohio, USA!
Thanks Dave I’m glad you liked it…
It was long week to wait for the result, so thanks for the update. 👍
Learned again some things 😁
Thanks wim glad you liked it ☝️😎
Thanks to scanner Danner for recommendation. Great video. I have learnt something 😀
Thank you… check part 1 is the most powerful 😎👍
Bless At our monastery, we own a Ford Fusion Hybrid & I enjoy learning about it. If nothing else but to have an idea of operation. Saw you thru Scanner Danner. Thanks 😊
Thank you very much 🙏
You are great man, very precise explanation. 💖👍🥰
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One thing I don't see - what is a good vs. a bad battery. Following the Dr Prius + Torque process, 2 blocks that are below 14.4 at freeze frame minimum (13.9 and 14). In that video I think this would be a bad battery like the example and need a new battery vs. reconditioning/rebalance but this video seems to suggest rebalancing might be indicated. Can you give a clearer guideline as to what makes a good (rebalancable) battery vs. a bad one?
Thanks,very intuitive,appreciated
Can you talk more about the equipment you’re using and how to get it?
Exelente videos muchas gracias por estos tutorials deverdad e aprendido vastante que scanner usas Para mejor resultado de diagnosticos y pruebas en hybrids?
It would seem that a parallel “pm system” that would monitor and allow access of your discharger and charger to balance cycle, without the major disassembly process, then a periodic physical inspection / cleaning of terminals. The non neglect of fan maintenance/cleaning is an obvious simpler step to do at standard maintenance interval.
Love your content and attitude in presentation for further education.
Do you have a network of trainees in any of the US states?
Hi Jose, great vid! Can you tell me after reconditioning and final charging, does the battery pack need to be discharged slightly before installation into the car? Can the car accepted a 100% fully charged battery and not give a fail code?
Very nice information 👍
Hi. Thanks for the info, very useful. One question:
1. Can we recondition an HV battery in the car itself without opening? If yes. How?
can't
Yes you can, The prolong harness is intended to be installed permanently into the vehicle’s battery….
Call the company and they’ll confirm…. It might not be possible in every situation because they state to not keep battery in direct sunlight while charging and also you can’t charge battery in temperatures exceeding 100 degrees
I picked up a 09 Prius that has been sitting for over a year.
What’s the best way to charge the HV battery?
Should I rotate the cells and charge them all in parallel? I have a lab grade power supply that I can set the voltage and current.
Thanks
Thanks for this amazing content for free. U spend a lot of time explaining stuff,it’s very kind. I have a question most of the module who have to be replace it’s refurbished? Or we still can get new ?
Yes you can buy them brand new as well
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics it’s a savage market to find out. how can I get your online lesson ?
@@bensa8205 send me a DM via instagram or TikTok
What is the acceptable internal resistance per module? is 6.36 Ohms Bad?
Great series of videos, but why do you show your videos in reverse?
Thank you for a great video. I drive a 2018 Prius Prime/PHEV it has 135kkm and opened since new. My question is how to check the the huge battery it has 8.8kWh, is it possible to check it with Dr. Prius App ? How to do balancing ? Thank so much for amazing videos.
Muchas gracias por compartir 😇!
Gracias a ti por seguirnos Nancy… 🙏
Scanner Danner sent me!
Thanks Phil. Check part 1
If my 11 Camry has the cylindrical cells is the same process of discharging and charging?
Or it’s just full charge 2 times to balance them.
Also how will connect the wires for the plug to work
If the balancing is done only using the spider cable and no rotation is done, how effective might that be?
I have seen your video on how to charge the modules with a 12 volt battery!!! Great video! But i am wondering if there is a way to discharge them without expensive tools??? Then charge them back up with the quick 12 volt battery method? I don’t want to spend roughly $1000 on the equipment the recondition my battery. A new OEM Toyota HV battery is $1750 at my dealership. So spending that much doesn’t make a lot of sense financially for me to do. Love your videos btw!
Car light bulb, wire and a voltmeter.
Alternatively a hobby RC charger.
So where do we get the machine for reconditioning (balancing) here in Malawi Mzuzu in particular.?
Please share leads to source for the charging and discharging tools you used.
let us know, for reconditioning batteries which device is better ( not for use, only for results), this Prolong charger/discharger or EV-Peak CQ3 individual balance charger ?
So the conclusion is I should have my 4 yr old Prius have this procedure done to it? I imagine since my battery is under warranty, there is no charge to have this reconditioning. Thank you!
what do you think about the cq3 module charger
Very nice 👍
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics do you think the prolong is better/more or less useful
Just want to make a decision before i buy one to rebuild a 2006 prius battery with 1 bad module code in techstream
I have that one CQ3 first gen pruis tho 38 modules grrr. Watching this video because most ALL modules 7.47-7.51v trying find a answer to what the max volts each modules should be at. Wish I seen video/comment earlier today when I was discharge/charge.
@Hybrid Solution Diagnostics I have the CQ3 . Sorry for late comment I'm trying figure out what the volt for each module for 2002 1st gen pruis is supposed to be. I don't wanna over charge at 8.40 :/ the modules were ALL mostly at 7.47-7.51. I just wanted to clean the copper and maybe just put aluminum to (balance out). 12 modules I charged over 8.25 I think they will balance out I don't wanna charge anymore modules. Til in morning check the volts. What you think??
@@user-ou4ps1yt2b After much research, and personal experience, I think it is okay to charge a module up to 8.55 volts. Somewhere between 8.6 and 9 volts a Delta V will occur, indicating the battery is fully charged. If you charge a battery up to 9 volts and keep it there for more than a few minutes, you could cause the chemical (or gas) that triggers the Delta V to be used up, and then the module won't trigger the Delta V anymore. I have two SkyRC B6AC v2 chargers. Many of these chargers do not detect the Delta V (voltage drop) and can overcharge the module, and I don't see a way to limit the voltage on the upper end. I have charged modules past 8.65 volts and I think I have seen the Delta V kick in around 8.59 volts or 8.70 volts. I wonder if I damaged them. I have the Dr. Prius app on my android phone. It has a feature where you can create a log showing the voltage for each pair of modules along with speed, amps, and battery temps, and you can email the log to yourself. I then load the log into Excel. When the Prius is charging, the voltage of the paired modules can be around 9.35 volts and some as high as 9.68 volts. When the Prius starts discharging, the voltage of the modules drops to what I think is their actual voltage which is from 8.65 volts to 8.81 volts. One time, I noticed the charging voltage got up to 10.01 volts, and about 15 seconds later the ChgLimit changed from 33.2 to 0. So I think the Delta V for at least one of the modules kicked in. After this, when discharging, the voltage dropped to about 8.88 to 8.98 volts. The battery temp increased from 82 F to about 89 F in a few minutes. I do not know if this is normal behavior.
Hey my hv battery seems to charge up and down and never goes below 25%, mostly sits about half full but my check engine light still on with code p1b74. Is my battery definitely shot or still good for a while?
Hi ,I have lexus IS 300 h ,can i do balancing battery my self and how. Thanks
I have a question, if the hybrid system gives a code P0A7F it doesn't necessarily means battery is bad, could be balancing problem yeh??
Deeper tests should be done to it…
What's the easiest way to access that fan to clean. I haven't seen a video on that yet. I'll look again. Thanks for your videos.
So it's under the back seat on driver side. Ok. Ill watch other video again to see seat removal. Thanks again.
So, you are basically rebalancing the battery by discharging. Is the overall capacity / MAH still lower? Why not replace the cells as well? I tried to follow both videos, but I understood what I understood.
What is PCU ( power control unit) my PCU fuse keep blowing, what will cause that? And the car can't start no Ready , can anyone help?
Short circuit for sure…
Hello bro, I am from Bangladesh I really like your all videos
Bro I have a axio hybrid
But 2 day ago show in my display a some notification
Hybrid Battery low cooling performance at the stor place check
Now what the prosiness??? Plz help me bro make a video
Hey, I would first check the cooling vents usually around the back seats. Make sure they're not clogged. Check the filter or mesh, vacuum it. If days are hot, make sure you run AC while driving.
if you are suggesting reconditioning your Hybrid battery every 3 months you are probably better off having a fresh spare to use so you are not out of a car for a week.
Just curious where are you located. Just wondering because of the steal bars in the background lol. It looks like fort knox.
Jajajajajajaja that’s the shop… in beautiful Caribbean 🇹🇹
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By any chance could you please provide me with torque specs value for the bolts on the plastic brackets that compress the battery modules. For some reason can't find any information anywhere. It's for 2008 prius.
I have a 2008 Prius. When the modules are cool and aligned properly, you can tighten the bolts down so there is no gap between the end of the rods and the plastic end pieces (without using a lot of torque). If some of the modules have expanded and do not compress back to their normal shape on their own, then it is likely they have been damaged and need to be replaced. The highest voltage you should charge modules to is about 8.55 volts. Also, charge at 5 or 6 amps at the most when charging modules individually. When charging a module, the voltage of the charger can be 9.5 volts, and when you remove the charger, the voltage of the module should not be much higher than 8.60 volts. Once the modules reach 8.55 volts, you should apply a small trickle charge to keep it at 8.55 volts for an hour or more. If you charge or discharge higher than 7.2 amps, you can damage the module.
Can you do a Video of a VW Touareg hybrid?
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Nice video.
Hello! I need your services, where are you to take my battery?
How to get the recondition device?
Here, with the Prius and cars like it, no one I know has this equipment/instrumentation to rebalance an EV or Hybrid battery nor do I know of a shop that does this. How do I get This software. . Also I know of a couple that built from Him self a rechargeable system for His RV . Solar or His Engine or ac electric HE used HyBrid battery's from a Toyota ,It is a Awesome setup , a lot of Power stored up , .the battery's are out of the car So he can CHeck rebalance . Good VIdeos 5*s
hey bud are you ablt to help me with a prob,after reconditioning i have a neg calculated hybrid battery current what does that mean
vehicle wont go back into hybrid stay on gas mode, no check engine lights and voltages on batteries are perfect
I like to invest with you . Open franchise on reconditions hybrid battery world wide.
Scanner cost around 500$ what other way to get info
Can I send u picture of Dr prius scan result
Is it possible to get a method of contact?
Send me a DM via instagram
This deep cycle conditioning process could easily be automented by using a simple control algorithm, if you wanted to get into the business of reconditioning batteries. This is a great idea for a business - if you can make it competitive to swapping in a new battery module.
I'm more interested in becoming an oil advocate after being fooled into this nightmare like a dope
I am not doing TikTok.
Jejeje no problem Jhon… we have instagram and FB as well ☝️😎⚡️⚡️⚡️
Check part 1
Where are you from? I need teachers
I have an amazing online training program fully complete covering the technology and a very powerful hybrid battery training as well… send me a DM via instagram
Scanner Danner
You definitely are smarter than you look
Man every 3 months, I will go back to a gas CAR
a percentage number is not 100% accurate lol