Instead of turning off traction control you can just select MTS - turn the mode selector SAND, traction control will be turned off automatically. It’s faster. Even better, throttle response is also adjusted. DRIVE mode is more appropriate on pavement. When off road use MTS. And you don’t need additional OBD Screen, you can configure the dash (12 inch one) to show details such as transmission/oil temp, battery voltage etc. 3 presets can be stored, I have one for daily driving (adaptive cruise, fuel mileage), one with off engine parameters (temps, voltage), and one for navigation (compass rose).
the best no non-sensical car review channel on the "tube of the internet" period. I love how this guy isnt mocking around with the new cars to not scratch them and gets right to the real stuff.. Some of these tests i would be terrified to do in a beater 4x4 car this guy just drives them off the showroom right into the rocks,sands and challenging 4x4 tracks.
For those of you, like me, still rocking the maxtrax mk2's, if you have wheel spin and burn a few nubs off you can get aluminimun replacements online. Super simple and cheap, cut off the remaining nub, drill a hole and bolt them on. Came with locking washers too, haven't had one come loose yet.
Great video Ronny, thanks for sharing your experiences with this vehicle. Really love the information you’re providing that you’d otherwise wouldn’t know from a brochure or from the average sales person, like how many gears you have in low range.
I was smiling at 1:40 when you referenced the FJ 😄, ... and at 14:50 pushing /holding the buttons ... well yes, that is one really good thing in my manual FJ, when I am switching the tough transfer case stick into low range, I get the fancy stability control tid-bits switched off immediately, there is no waiting for 4-5 seconds, and no buttons to push / hold (although the buttons are there in the FJ, but no need to fiddle with them when you are in the situation of low range driving ).
Let's see how many people will give there professional opinions that have never driven or owned one 😂....I can already tell this vehicle will have its lovers and haters. Personally for me being a person that doesn't want that feeling nagging about hurting a brand new vehicle it's not for me I want to use a 4x4 to its full potential so it's second hand for me that way it doesn't crush the soul if and when you get some damage.
Drove in the Sahara with the J12 Prado through the dunes. Low pressure and 2wd was enough for 90% of the tour 🤷♂️ for the hardcore stuff of course the 4L was useful 👌 no thread on the tires tho 😂
Well, the only thing that is abysmal about the car is the acceleration from 0-100 that was 11 seconds. I hope that was the lowest basic trim or something and there will be a quicker one because this car seems amazing otherwise. And yes , acceleration matters in ANY car.
@@dr.killjoy5001 Not many people will be be buying the Prado expecting sports car like acceleration. The GX550 will do 0-100 in 6,8 seconds if you want better accelerating 250-series.
AWD usually has anywhere from up to 20f/80r to 50/50 for power distribution, where as locking the center differential actually lets either differential recieve 100% of the power, or 100/0 to 0/100. 4wd does the same thing, since the front and rear outputs are the same gear ratio and only have shafts. This does mean that if you turn with either 4wd or awd with the center diff locked the front and rear differentials bind because they need to spin at different speeds but they can't. It's like turning with locked front/rear differentials but less, you still get some wheel hop.
@@-aid4084 With a centre differential locked (or any differential) you are forcing axles or drive shafts to rotate at the same speed so yeah wheels will slip and scrub hence with Any locked differential you shouldn’t drive on high traction surfaces.
Yep the getabout training boys at the 4WD show were saying the same thing at their recovery workshop. 4H is recommended for sand as it allows the car to “float” with low enough PSI and the high gears cause minimal surface disruption since they have less torque.
When I did the Coorong to murray mouth (100km each way with a lot of soft sand) I found it was lacking power in the soft stuff in 4H going 50km/h and above and starting to bog down so changed back to 4L and just took my time sitting below 40km/h. No prizes for getting there quicker. Ive found 4L gives you the torque to get through softer patches much better than 4H . . .
@@4x4Overlanding247exactly. Very soft sand requires 4L. Using 4H in these conditions is what kills gearboxes due to heat. Some of the above comments show most don’t have enough experience in soft sand.
Be interested to know what you prefer in standard form between this and the grenadier, then after the inevitable upgrades the difference between the 2.
I am not a Toyota fan boy but I like these 250's. Very nice looking vehicle. Carexpert channel was saying they are sluggish. Doesn't look sluggish to me. Are you going to do a towing segment Ronny? Be interested in seeing if it tows as well as the 76.
I think most top gear/s are obviously overdrive, and I don't think they're designed to handle the the amplified torque of low range, so they lock it out.
Hi Ronny, your reviews are great - interesting and very informative. I love watching your videos. I was wondering the snorkel that is on your Prado, is it just a raised air intake or a real snorkel. I bought an altitude 2 weeks ago and am thinking of getting it. I'll appreciate if you can let me know. Thanks
Apologies Ronnie for being picky but . . . a locked centre differential only splits power and torque 50/50 between front/rear axles in the special case of front and rear road traction (impedance) being identical. That special case is rare on a 4WD track - it is the uneven front/rear traction which causes us to want to lock the centre diff in the first place. An open centre differential always splits torque 50/50 between front and rear, but only splits power for the same special case. All confusing physics. But the easy bit is that the ONLY parameter which is always and genuinely split” (n the sense of being identical for each of the front and rear axle) - when a centre differential is locked - is the rpm.
Well i saw 3 at the local dealership and one down town this morning and as far as looks go i am not very impressed. Looks too much like a box on wheels.
@@tallboy49 well the previous one (150) looked like a bulky, weird blobfish imo. I much appreciate the boxy design, reminds me of the Nissan Pathfinder, in a good way.
@ MTS does more than just traction control. It modulates throttle and transmission performance as well, and adjusts how traction control works. It could be more useful in certain situations than completely disabling traction control.
Pet hate @ 12:30 - A diff lock, be that center or axle lock, does not split torque 50/50. It just locks the rotational speed to be equal, and the torque split is determined by the available grip on each side of the locker. An open diff on the other hand splits torque 50/50. Think of it like this - if you have a locked axle, on wheel in the air, and one on the ground, you get 100% of the torque to the wheel on the ground. If you have an open diff with one wheel in the air and one on the ground you get a 50/50 torque split, but the wheel in the air has no resistance so it can't receive any torque and just spins up. The wheel on the ground gets that same tiny amount of torque delivered to it, and you are stuck. What confuses most people is that torque is not something that is "sent", it is "used". Another way to look at it is that torque will always follow the path of least resistance. A wheel in the air will always receive the most torque possible unless you limit its rotational speed by a diff-lock or ESP intervention on the brakes.
Are you sure you’re using the right terminology? Traction control is awesome for high range and lo range 4wding. It’s stability control that you don’t want on (should turn off in lo automatically). That’s how it is on the 150. Maybe the 250 is different and uses different terms for these things. Agreed though that turning TC off for sand driving is good.
No decent 4WD needs a Tune or Throttle Controller. So this is good to see. Not sure why you say a Permanent 4WD will get you stuck if one wheel loses traction - it’s called traction control (some vehicles have torque vectoring also) where a wheel can be braked. I have a permanent 4WD and can drive with a front and rear wheel slipping. Wasn’t the MTS Sand Mode used on the 250? Also why didn’t we see you stuck on the beach and using Crawl Control to get out? Range Rover can self extract on the beach with Low Traction Launch.
it’s easier now with MTS, select whatever terrain you’re facing (AUTO, SAND, MUD, DIRT, ROCK) traction control will be on or off appropriately even when in 4H depending on the mode selected. And not only TC, throttle response is also mapped differently for each mode.
Everyone who noticed ENGINE CHECK LIGHT @ 5:03 , ENGINE was not running as there was also the STEERING CAUTION and PRAKING BRAKE light on at right down corner of screen , hence only key was on ON 👍
Does the hugh specs prados have the adaptive headlights like the high specs 300s? I swear not alot of 300 owners know. It will spread the beam wide when slow, and ever turn the beam which way you turn the wheel, and when you speed up the beam will narrow, also it will pick up car and turn off a section whennthe oncoming car is or car infront but still be in highbeaam. Hard to explain but trippy to watch
Ronny, good to meet you at the Perth show with the tyre game. I was hoping you could tell me the thoughts between the LC250 altitude vs the LC300 gx. They cost the same, it will be my daily but needs to be 4x4 capable and tow. Which once would you pick? Altitude has the sunroof, locker, luxury OR the 6 cylinder. Thank you.
@ no difference fuel wise towing my van compared to my old 200! Yea round town is about 4-5 litres per 100 more but it’s nice having 400hp under the right foot😁
Normally the traction control should turn off as soon as one of the lockers is engaged And don't shit on traction control in general, there are situations (yes they are very rare, I admit it) where a good traction control can get you further than a vehicle with rear and center locker
TC stays on with centre diff locked in Toyota's, it works really well. He's only talking about sand and TC does not work on sand, as you said though it's very good in other situations
@@Harry_Gersack yep and in some you can get it to stay on with rear locker also. Generally TC works as well as a locker anyway so the lockers don't get turned on
Looked to me like the truck handled that well. Cue all the Aussie whingers now telling us what a shitbox it is....just like they did when the 150 first came out
As much as i would like to buy one i wont. This car is 95k nzd. A used FJ cruiser with 4L petrol and A-Trac does 90% of what this car does at 28k nzd. Its better but there is no way this car is 67k better than the FJ cruiser.
On the 250 prado we don’t actually need additional screen. Loads of things : Map, compass, tilt, traction, Oil/transmission temp/qty, battery voltage etc.can actually be displayed on the 12 inch dash. Just need some digging on the menu though
Yeah good question . . . . it really is just a luxury version of the 76. Would be interesting to do a full spec comparison between the 250 / 300 / 76. Which one would withstand harsh conditions better? No doubt a 76 Personally I'd prefer less whizz bang gadgets than more coming from a 25 yr old 90 series Prado . . . . But could I go back if I tried something as luxxy as a 250 . . . . ?? It would likely be very difficult . . . .
If you want to do an occasional beach run and mainly the mall choose this Prado whereas if you want to do genuine tough stuff where damage may occur the 76 strikes me as the far better choice.
that's in majority of cases, particularly Toyotas. It's better alternative than losing even further departure angle, this way it tucks away behind axle for some defense. Of course, not ideal for big off-roading, but those people just relocate to rear bar.
@@rob73852.8D engine has been manufactured from 2015 by Toyota, hundreds of thousands units. Especially the latest gen. Motors are very reliable. All modern motors need regular maintenance. If you ignore that, off course you are in trouble with any brand of engines.
I own a new model Hilux. A lot of cheap plastic in their cars now, expensive parts and built quality is getting worse. The engines do not last like they used to. We are being ripped off but people cannot see it. We also own a 2002 Landcruiser and the build quality is far better than new models. I spoke to a well experienced Deisel fitter recently and even with earthmoving equipment and tractors the quality of everything has dropped off since 2006. The 1hdfte 6 cylinder in the Landcruiser was the last reliable engine Toyota had.
Yawn. Exactly what people said when the 200 Prado came out, and the 150 Prado before that. Every new generation Toyota magically makes the previous one "the last proper one" to the peanut gallery.
All I'll say is the 250 is good and will be bought by many for highway and town and mild off-road as the previous 150, but the interior space is an issue for some, it's better to just go to the troopy it's good enough now but still the same to an extent as the old one, those with money to spare will go to the 300 GX or GXL anyway, Alternatively go for Lexus GX or GXL, difference being it has a twin turbo V6 or something, could be the best alternative in this situation
Did pretty well for a stock vehicle... love that you gave it a hard time! Kinda makes me feel better placing a deposit on one.
@MichaelHopewell-d8v don't worry mate,that deposit will probably wash off
Instead of turning off traction control you can just select MTS - turn the mode selector SAND, traction control will be turned off automatically. It’s faster. Even better, throttle response is also adjusted. DRIVE mode is more appropriate on pavement. When off road use MTS.
And you don’t need additional OBD Screen, you can configure the dash (12 inch one) to show details such as transmission/oil temp, battery voltage etc. 3 presets can be stored, I have one for daily driving (adaptive cruise, fuel mileage), one with off engine parameters (temps, voltage), and one for navigation (compass rose).
Thanks Jeremy clarkson
You'll have to excuse Ronnie, he's not used to having high tech things like Mode Selection.
👌👌👌
Than you, very helpful advise!!
Do the modes work in high range? I have a 22 Kakadu and the sand/mud drive selector only works in low range.
I really like that raised intake, super clean looking
I agree,
Looking forward for Ronny's Adventure with his Prado.
Patiently waiting for towing...
pretty good video Ronny, It is interesting that when it is off-road it does seem to feel more agile and secure then the 150 did
the best no non-sensical car review channel on the "tube of the internet" period. I love how this guy isnt mocking around with the new cars to not scratch them and gets right to the real stuff.. Some of these tests i would be terrified to do in a beater 4x4 car this guy just drives them off the showroom right into the rocks,sands and challenging 4x4 tracks.
Fantastic honest, real world assessment, well done
50% honest, it's a toyota channel
@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing except when he has an ineos
They really nailed the look of this thing, it looks fricken great. Def one of the best looking modern 4x4's imo
For those of you, like me, still rocking the maxtrax mk2's, if you have wheel spin and burn a few nubs off you can get aluminimun replacements online. Super simple and cheap, cut off the remaining nub, drill a hole and bolt them on. Came with locking washers too, haven't had one come loose yet.
@@markrigney4372 He’s using MaxTrax Xtreme anyway with the metal replaceable lugs.
@@jerrymyahzcat watch again mate, he uses mkII'S as well. Besides, doesn't delegitimise my comment either way.
Youve gone to another level Ronny, well done, a young star on the way up
Good to see a brand new 4x4 going offorad when most will just haunt the highways and city streets (and soccer fields)
city off-roader 😂
I have bought 2 x Altitudes, I have no plans to take it off-road 👊
Love your honesty. Your my favourite 4wd motor journalist
@@entropyachieved750 *you’re
Great video Ronny, thanks for sharing your experiences with this vehicle. Really love the information you’re providing that you’d otherwise wouldn’t know from a brochure or from the average sales person, like how many gears you have in low range.
Ronnie can you do a tow test comparing this and your 4 cyl 76, like the one you did with your 76 and 79 series please
Looking forward to this. 76 is a well built proven platform
@@RoamingRooma 76 is Rubbish. Ask almost anyone but a fanboy.
Objective reviewers also call it for the crap it is.
I was smiling at 1:40 when you referenced the FJ 😄, ... and at 14:50 pushing /holding the buttons ... well yes, that is one really good thing in my manual FJ, when I am switching the tough transfer case stick into low range, I get the fancy stability control tid-bits switched off immediately, there is no waiting for 4-5 seconds, and no buttons to push / hold (although the buttons are there in the FJ, but no need to fiddle with them when you are in the situation of low range driving ).
Let's see how many people will give there professional opinions that have never driven or owned one 😂....I can already tell this vehicle will have its lovers and haters. Personally for me being a person that doesn't want that feeling nagging about hurting a brand new vehicle it's not for me I want to use a 4x4 to its full potential so it's second hand for me that way it doesn't crush the soul if and when you get some damage.
Hi Ronny thanks for some cool and honest reviews and testing this car
Thanks Ronny great review
Drove in the Sahara with the J12 Prado through the dunes. Low pressure and 2wd was enough for 90% of the tour 🤷♂️ for the hardcore stuff of course the 4L was useful 👌 no thread on the tires tho 😂
The haters can hate all they want but Toyota knocked it out of the park with the 250-series and it will sell like hot cakes!
Well, the only thing that is abysmal about the car is the acceleration from 0-100 that was 11 seconds. I hope that was the lowest basic trim or something and there will be a quicker one because this car seems amazing otherwise. And yes , acceleration matters in ANY car.
@@dr.killjoy5001Go test drive one and find out if you’re that pressed about it….
Those are not just haters but ignorant people.
@@dr.killjoy5001 no one really always use 0-60 measure in daily driving. Trust me, no one buy this thinking of racing with a Subaru WRX.
@@dr.killjoy5001 Not many people will be be buying the Prado expecting sports car like acceleration. The GX550 will do 0-100 in 6,8 seconds if you want better accelerating 250-series.
Thanks for sharing and taking us along.Awesome and outstanding content as always.
AWD usually has anywhere from up to 20f/80r to 50/50 for power distribution, where as locking the center differential actually lets either differential recieve 100% of the power, or 100/0 to 0/100.
4wd does the same thing, since the front and rear outputs are the same gear ratio and only have shafts. This does mean that if you turn with either 4wd or awd with the center diff locked the front and rear differentials bind because they need to spin at different speeds but they can't. It's like turning with locked front/rear differentials but less, you still get some wheel hop.
@@-aid4084 With a centre differential locked (or any differential) you are forcing axles or drive shafts to rotate at the same speed so yeah wheels will slip and scrub hence with Any locked differential you shouldn’t drive on high traction surfaces.
@jerrymyahzcat ye
I see Ronny's got the DJI mics going.. nice
What did he have before?
Looked so fun on the dunes. Can't wait to get ours
@@auspokemon7350 Looked like zero fun on the dunes. And so much sand blowing into the cabin. I stay off sand where possible.
I usually use 4H for sand and beach work. 15psi in the tyres, TC off, rarely get bogged ever. Friends using 4L always getting bogged
The same shit. Prado 120, 3doors, 4l.
Yep the getabout training boys at the 4WD show were saying the same thing at their recovery workshop. 4H is recommended for sand as it allows the car to “float” with low enough PSI and the high gears cause minimal surface disruption since they have less torque.
4low doesn't make sense on sand unless you're severely underpowered
When I did the Coorong to murray mouth (100km each way with a lot of soft sand) I found it was lacking power in the soft stuff in 4H going 50km/h and above and starting to bog down so changed back to 4L and just took my time sitting below 40km/h. No prizes for getting there quicker. Ive found 4L gives you the torque to get through softer patches much better than 4H . . .
@@4x4Overlanding247exactly. Very soft sand requires 4L. Using 4H in these conditions is what kills gearboxes due to heat. Some of the above comments show most don’t have enough experience in soft sand.
Love it! Very 80 Series from the back.
Great Video! 😊
that set you guys mad looks epic!
Be interested to know what you prefer in standard form between this and the grenadier, then after the inevitable upgrades the difference between the 2.
I am not a Toyota fan boy but I like these 250's. Very nice looking vehicle. Carexpert channel was saying they are sluggish. Doesn't look sluggish to me. Are you going to do a towing segment Ronny? Be interested in seeing if it tows as well as the 76.
100 percent mate 😉
Back again! Great work.
If only the had rear cargo space with the 7 seater. It was a deal breaker for me. We fill our current 150 with stuff when we go camping.
Great sand test. Awaiting the rock test. Watching from Newfoundland and Labrador,Canada.
Its thr first good looking prado
I think most top gear/s are obviously overdrive, and I don't think they're designed to handle the the amplified torque of low range, so they lock it out.
Hi Ronny, your reviews are great - interesting and very informative. I love watching your videos. I was wondering the snorkel that is on your Prado, is it just a raised air intake or a real snorkel. I bought an altitude 2 weeks ago and am thinking of getting it. I'll appreciate if you can let me know. Thanks
Apologies Ronnie for being picky but . . . a locked centre differential only splits power and torque 50/50 between front/rear axles in the special case of front and rear road traction (impedance) being identical. That special case is rare on a 4WD track - it is the uneven front/rear traction which causes us to want to lock the centre diff in the first place. An open centre differential always splits torque 50/50 between front and rear, but only splits power for the same special case. All confusing physics. But the easy bit is that the ONLY parameter which is always and genuinely split” (n the sense of being identical for each of the front and rear axle) - when a centre differential is locked - is the rpm.
Does this Prado have the Torson centre from the earlier model?
Yes. A Torsen diff is standard on the new 250.
Outstanding!
Loving the honest review and feedback, let's all be real. The 250 Prado is a thing of beauty.
Warranty and all.😊😊
Well i saw 3 at the local dealership and one down town this morning and as far as looks go i am not very impressed. Looks too much like a box on wheels.
@@tallboy49 well the previous one (150) looked like a bulky, weird blobfish imo.
I much appreciate the boxy design, reminds me of the Nissan Pathfinder, in a good way.
@@tallboy49Plot twist, you don’t have to buy one ya sook.
Think i might buy one just so i can show everyone just how terrible it looks.
@ Very productive use of your time.
The prado 150 4.0 will go into 5th in low range. You need to bounce off the rev limiter and then manually select 5th and she goes in.
Keep the windows up …
Did you not find 1st gear low too slow down the dunes? I have that issue in a 10 speed auto
Curious if you used MTS (multi-terrain select)?
Looks like he did not (traction control off)… 😅
@ MTS does more than just traction control. It modulates throttle and transmission performance as well, and adjusts how traction control works. It could be more useful in certain situations than completely disabling traction control.
@@jeeproverbydesignspot on. I would have selected MTS SAND instead.
Pet hate @ 12:30 - A diff lock, be that center or axle lock, does not split torque 50/50. It just locks the rotational speed to be equal, and the torque split is determined by the available grip on each side of the locker. An open diff on the other hand splits torque 50/50. Think of it like this - if you have a locked axle, on wheel in the air, and one on the ground, you get 100% of the torque to the wheel on the ground. If you have an open diff with one wheel in the air and one on the ground you get a 50/50 torque split, but the wheel in the air has no resistance so it can't receive any torque and just spins up. The wheel on the ground gets that same tiny amount of torque delivered to it, and you are stuck.
What confuses most people is that torque is not something that is "sent", it is "used". Another way to look at it is that torque will always follow the path of least resistance. A wheel in the air will always receive the most torque possible unless you limit its rotational speed by a diff-lock or ESP intervention on the brakes.
Now the big question, Ineos or Prado 250?
Seems like with the sport mode it unlocks more power than the 150.
its the same power but the extra gears make it go faster
Are you sure you’re using the right terminology? Traction control is awesome for high range and lo range 4wding. It’s stability control that you don’t want on (should turn off in lo automatically). That’s how it is on the 150. Maybe the 250 is different and uses different terms for these things.
Agreed though that turning TC off for sand driving is good.
No decent 4WD needs a Tune or Throttle Controller. So this is good to see.
Not sure why you say a Permanent 4WD will get you stuck if one wheel loses traction - it’s called traction control (some vehicles have torque vectoring also) where a wheel can be braked.
I have a permanent 4WD and can drive with a front and rear wheel slipping.
Wasn’t the MTS Sand Mode used on the 250?
Also why didn’t we see you stuck on the beach and using Crawl Control to get out? Range Rover can self extract on the beach with Low Traction Launch.
If I where on that beach with all gear you have there ... I would worry more about the sand in my camera gear than the sand on the seat :)
Thank for a good review.
I’m waiting for your caravan review, will it be better here your “79”, a 300 or can you get an Everest?
In the 150 using 4L turns the VSC off, you still need to manually turn the TC off. I suspect the 250 is the same ?
it’s easier now with MTS, select whatever terrain you’re facing (AUTO, SAND, MUD, DIRT, ROCK) traction control will be on or off appropriately even when in 4H depending on the mode selected. And not only TC, throttle response is also mapped differently for each mode.
is the snorkel stock or after market? thanks
Everyone who noticed ENGINE CHECK LIGHT @ 5:03 , ENGINE was not running as there was also the STEERING CAUTION and PRAKING BRAKE light on at right down corner of screen , hence only key was on ON 👍
Yes, obviously that clip of the dashboard was added later on to visualize what he is saying, nothing wrong with that.
What do you think worth buying ?, l took one for test drive was nice to drive
too early for that call, I've been focused on off-roading
@ cool loving your videos on TH-cam
I got one on order
How would the plastic panel trims affect flare fitment?
Does the hugh specs prados have the adaptive headlights like the high specs 300s? I swear not alot of 300 owners know. It will spread the beam wide when slow, and ever turn the beam which way you turn the wheel, and when you speed up the beam will narrow, also it will pick up car and turn off a section whennthe oncoming car is or car infront but still be in highbeaam. Hard to explain but trippy to watch
Just look up on TH-cam toyota adaptive headlights . It's not that auto high beam low beam most base model Toyota's have that doesn't really work well.
You bump the spare on anything? Looks low down there.
Curious if you used the sand driving mode?
Ronny
Thoughts about Prado vs Grenadier?
sub'ed for LC250 reasons
Ronny, good to meet you at the Perth show with the tyre game. I was hoping you could tell me the thoughts between the LC250 altitude vs the LC300 gx. They cost the same, it will be my daily but needs to be 4x4 capable and tow. Which once would you pick? Altitude has the sunroof, locker, luxury OR the 6 cylinder. Thank you.
Buy a new patrol much better more powerful and stronger platform than the 250+300
@@rob7385 Its too thirsty
@ no difference fuel wise towing my van compared to my old 200! Yea round town is about 4-5 litres per 100 more but it’s nice having 400hp under the right foot😁
@@rob7385 Yeah but waking up in the morning and realizing you're a Patrol owner is a level of embarrassment not everyone can handle.
@@Albatrossamongus stay positive albatross! Hahaha 😂
See them on the street in both Perth and Albany already.
well we know it's not a jet. it's actually heavier and slower than the previous generation!
Normally the traction control should turn off as soon as one of the lockers is engaged
And don't shit on traction control in general, there are situations (yes they are very rare, I admit it) where a good traction control can get you further than a vehicle with rear and center locker
TC stays on with centre diff locked in Toyota's, it works really well.
He's only talking about sand and TC does not work on sand, as you said though it's very good in other situations
@eamon1648 oh so it only turns off with the rear locker, interesting 🤔
@@Harry_Gersack yep and in some you can get it to stay on with rear locker also.
Generally TC works as well as a locker anyway so the lockers don't get turned on
If you have access to 40 million max trax you have access to a 2 min snatch.
Pretty silly supposition, that’s what I am still wondering 😂
Ronny why didn’t you test MTS sand mode?
I had a look at it but need to play with it more, it seems to me like a setting for beginners that might not understand the traction control ect
Would be interesting to see hoe it compares vs the 300, 70 series (v8 or 4cyl), and Fortuner
Hey, what digital temp gauge was that? Cheers
It's scangauge 3
You don’t need additional screen on the 250, just dive deeper on the 12 inch dash menu, they can actually be displayed
A bit surprised at the speed it has been compared to the 150 on the car expert drag race and it is slower than the 150
Looked to me like the truck handled that well. Cue all the Aussie whingers now telling us what a shitbox it is....just like they did when the 150 first came out
I wonder in whose hands these cars end up through dealerships after you’ve done with it 😂. Like when you sell them 😅
Ronnie what temp gauge your useing please
scangauge 3
We need video on Lexus Gx 550 overtrail
Putting automotive journos to shame. Great test.
Wrong about it being just AWD. It is true 4x4 because it is still using the same transfer case with a Torsen diff.
TH-cam us killing this platform with too many ads. This just became unwatchable.
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What ads?
How is it towing in real situations
As much as i would like to buy one i wont. This car is 95k nzd. A used FJ cruiser with 4L petrol and A-Trac does 90% of what this car does at 28k nzd. Its better but there is no way this car is 67k better than the FJ cruiser.
He!y Ronnie, can you please tell me what make of temperature scan guage you are using? Cheers mate
It's the scanguage 3
@@krismezza cheers mate!
On the 250 prado we don’t actually need additional screen. Loads of things : Map, compass, tilt, traction, Oil/transmission temp/qty, battery voltage etc.can actually be displayed on the 12 inch dash. Just need some digging on the menu though
will see how it does the same type of driving when loaded up
Hmm, where is this ? I aasume lancelin ?
That where he goes all the time to film & test
You could rebadge a LDV to a Toyota and most clowns would defend it .
Don't insult LDV like that 😂
My bad 😆
Here is a question:
What is the advantage over 2.8L LC76? Which is 15k cheaper.
Too many electrons can go wrong?
Yeah good question . . . . it really is just a luxury version of the 76. Would be interesting to do a full spec comparison between the 250 / 300 / 76.
Which one would withstand harsh conditions better? No doubt a 76
Personally I'd prefer less whizz bang gadgets than more coming from a 25 yr old 90 series Prado . . . . But could I go back if I tried something as luxxy as a 250 . . . . ??
It would likely be very difficult . . . .
If you want to do an occasional beach run and mainly the mall choose this Prado whereas if you want to do genuine tough stuff where damage may occur the 76 strikes me as the far better choice.
@ spot on.
Noticed the The Engine Check Light on
14:55 where?
When you turn the vehicle on, check engine light always comes on
That’s cause it’s ignition was on without cranking the engine
you need to learn more about cars before you start commenting about engine lights....
Wrong tyres for the sand
looks like it can handle itself, i just wonder how well it'll handle heat during the summer
@@Alcor151 Isn't it summer now in AU/NZ since they're in southern hemisphere.
@@khonjel_singh not at the time of the filming.
@@khonjel_singh only just coming into summer.... we have some 30 degree days starting but there are 40+ on their way normally more jan/Feb
Has already been well into the mid 30s in Perth
nice
If I were you I would buy the grenadier without any faults.Or have I not seen these tests with the Grenadier?
Grenadier had the wrong badge on it for Ronny
He made a video a week ago and listed many faults
Don’t mention the obstruction in the grenadier’s foot well.
@@deathrabbit82 It's clear that even in that episode he doesn't dare say much about the Grenadier.
@@doobresick Nowhere does he do with the Grenadier what he does with the Toyotas, that much is clear
As you’ve said before Prados are not real land cruisers, what happened here 🤣
RIP the ventilated seat function
That spare tyre looks incredibly low and angled down at the front. Angled downwards in direction of vehicle travel may be an issue in the rocks.
that's in majority of cases, particularly Toyotas. It's better alternative than losing even further departure angle, this way it tucks away behind axle for some defense.
Of course, not ideal for big off-roading, but those people just relocate to rear bar.
Did you enjoy driving it? We'll never know as you didn't give an answer.
I know your a Toyota man, but please get your hands a on a y62 patrol and do a beach run review before I take mine on a beach trip.
62 won’t have an issue mate
That'd be awesome
Great car but why was the engine check light on? Or wasn‘t the car running?
14:55 where? Or is there a separate light elsewhere?
U can't put a tiny 4 cylinder in this car and expect it to last.
2.8D is known to be reliable in the long term. Maybe if your main purpose is heavy towing it is a different case…or not.
@Marvilalove towing is literally over half the market. It won't last towing a camper around. These motors already scream and are gutless in the hilux
@@Marvilalove2.8 is definitely NOT known to be reliable in the long term😂 a little research or any skin in the game and you’d know this!
@@rob7385 dpf and turbo trouble are just the tip of the problems
@@rob73852.8D engine has been manufactured from 2015 by Toyota, hundreds of thousands units. Especially the latest gen. Motors are very reliable. All modern motors need regular maintenance. If you ignore that, off course you are in trouble with any brand of engines.
I own a new model Hilux.
A lot of cheap plastic in their cars now, expensive parts and built quality is getting worse.
The engines do not last like they used to.
We are being ripped off but people cannot see it.
We also own a 2002 Landcruiser and the build quality is far better than new models.
I spoke to a well experienced Deisel fitter recently and even with earthmoving equipment and tractors the quality of everything has dropped off since 2006.
The 1hdfte 6 cylinder in the Landcruiser was the last reliable engine Toyota had.
Yawn. Exactly what people said when the 200 Prado came out, and the 150 Prado before that. Every new generation Toyota magically makes the previous one "the last proper one" to the peanut gallery.
@ can you tell me when I can see one of these 200 prado’s? Bahahaha if your going to comment make sure u know wat your talking about first! U peanut 😉
bro you need a new hat
You can tell allot about someone on how they take care or dont take care of their car, it says allot!
All I'll say is the 250 is good and will be bought by many for highway and town and mild off-road as the previous 150, but the interior space is an issue for some, it's better to just go to the troopy it's good enough now but still the same to an extent as the old one, those with money to spare will go to the 300 GX or GXL anyway,
Alternatively go for Lexus GX or GXL, difference being it has a twin turbo V6 or something, could be the best alternative in this situation