Enjoyed your vid. I can answer your question about why the ground button was removed for the pro version. I was an EE on the T-1000/T600 development team at Fluke and this was not a safety issue all since the ground button is isolated from the black lead by 1 Megohms. This does add small error to AC voltage measurement when compared to holding the black lead tip with bare fingers, which adds 3% error per foot note [2] in the ACV spec sheet. Shortly after the T6 went to market, Fluke's marketing team found the ground button was not used by professional electricians in the field because they wear gloves. The Pro's spec sheet could also remove the accuracy foot note that adds 3% to FieldSense ACV measurements when not hard grounding the black lead. This was just a marketing trick to make the Pro seem like a better meter when it is the same internal circuitry (sans button and protection circuit).
thanks for the explanation sir. is it possible to use black lead in normal version rather than using finger ground button? if so I think pro version doesn't make much sense to me anymore. also I would really like to see vibration option for continuity tests in this device like some others already have
@@alpaycelikel Yes, the black lead is the same in both versions. I don't know what you mean by vibration option for continuity tests. If there is such a thing, I can't help you since I an currently enjoying retirement.
@@pondude7809 thank you for your response sir really appreciated. Re to vibration option, its not easy to hear continuity test beep in noisy environments and sometimes screen lights are not visible -especially under daylight- so some devices are emits small vibration to let you know continuity is there
You always do such a great job with your presentations/reviews. You deserve everything you receive from your efforts because you really have a great approach to providing useful and interesting information for all of us!
I've had the back button one and returned it soon after. The issue I had was flakey readings and inaccuracies which I wasn't the only one many videos at the time complained including Ave. Some videos I saw also had to do with corrosion and failure of the coin on the back as well. Another one I saw was issues with grounding with the right combination of boots ppe and clothing. I'm trying to make money not problems so along with the backlight going to the pro was a easy choice. Just the visual quick check saves time when there's a rats nest of wires in a box. I got 6 or 7 cases off azon to find the slimmest case to protect it further and aproca hard carry case was the winner even over the real deal fluke case. I did see concerns over grounding to yourself and having a heart condition or pacemaker but fluke debunked that quickly as it is safe. Hope this helps and if you do even residential and don't wanna untangle that rats nest box it's worth every penny.
Appreciate the heads up on the case... Yeah for $20 more... I think its worth getting the Pro. I think the Fieldsense is a really great feature. Its not like you "Have To" use it, but its a great option in times that you can use it to save time.
I have the T6 1000 pro and I love it. I also had the T6 1000 and the back finger button wasn't too reliable. But when I used the black leads for ground, it worked perfectly. Also, the T6 1000 pro was made for industrial environment and as I said before, using the black leads was more reliable than the back finger button. Hope this blog helps you.
Just got mine this week for the exact reason you did. The holster for easy access. So far I’m liking it. The job I did yesterday it came in real handy having it in my hip to grab and test the disconnect I was installing.
I just purchased the 378fc just for field sense when dealing with 480v 3 phase hvac electrical. The safety of not having to use my leads is definitely comforting. My diagnosis time has decreased overall, and it has a few other tricks up its sleeve. I love the larger dual readout screen. I was actually considering getting the T6-1000 (non pro) just for the fact that you dont have to use the black lead as a ground. My 378fc also needs the black grounded but has a standard clamp, and field sense is at the tip of the clamp. This allows me to hang it on a wire and then turn on the power so its hands free. Plus, with fluke connect, I can put in a unit with the panels on and get the measurements on my phone. I do wish mine had the ground button on the back as an option, not having to mess with leads at all would be nice. As far as the t6 and t6 pro. You get better accuracy, and the field sense area is larger. It's not much larger, but when sticking your hand in a panel, every little bit helps.
Yeah, If it was for accuracy, I wish they had just left the button as an option and stated for better accuracy use lead/alligator clip… but maybe it became a safety thing. Maybe even a safety thing for goobers using it wrong 😂 I would have liked to have to option to go lead-less when the few extra bolts here/there didn’t matter. I figured the Backlight and Holster were worth getting the Pro over the button. I almost just bout the 1000 though, and was just going to buy the clip and use it when I needed better accuracy.
Hey man. Nice video. I have the T6-1000 pro and have found it to be a decent meter and the fieldsense to be pretty helpful. Especially with how common fingers are connections are and it is frequently difficult to find a hot point. One thing I did that I have found to be helpful was a bought an extension lead for the ground and that makes it a little easier to work with that ground cabe connected.
i do a lot of evaporator defrost heater testing and the Field-Sense saves me around 70% of time compared to before. i no longer need to mess with the wires of the heaters to get voltage reading
I have the T6-600 and find it super handy. If I could go back, I would've bought the 1000. I think you made a good choice there, MM. I've found that grouding the lead for FS voltage measurements yields more accurate readings, but that doesn't always matter for simple troubleshooting. The T6 series also has a built-in LoZ filter for eliminating ghost voltages. Pretty handy, considering not even my 87V has one! The LoZ has helped me out a few times troubleshooting power supply units for industrial controls.
@10:21, time stamp... Thats a nice feature, to have both readings, at the same time(dual reading), and to be able to keep the wire nut, or wires , still connected how they were found, in the box.. And testing them in this way, checks, and varifies, if there are issues with the integrity of those wires connections, to each other....very nice.... Love.the Grounding Clamp, method, it seams like the best way to get accurate readings.... .thanks for the video.... Very informative....
It is pretty nice to allow faster ad safer measurements in certain situations. I wasn't sure how well it would work, but it seems to work pretty well. Appreciate it 👍👍
This IS my every-day carry in a professional industrial setting. It's sensitivity may not be sufficient under certain troubleshooting situations, so I'll use the Fluke 375 FC clamp meter or 789 ProcessMeter when finer data is necessary. I like this T6-1000 so much that I bought one for home use. I've been using these for several years, and I highly recommend them! (I think there has been some question of safety concerning possible continuity between the ground lead and the finger ground if the ground lead were to be placed on a hot wire. I've not experienced any such problem, but perhaps just the thought of possibility was sufficient for Fluke to nix it.)
Appreciate your thoughts. I think I’m really going to like it. I wondered about the ground button because if it’s not a safety issue I didn’t understand why they would get rid of it. Accuracy may be less… but you could have left it an option and stated, for best accuracy use lead or alligator clip. If it was a safety issue, I wondered what was happening
I got this tester because it was recommended to me to “grow into” I haven’t used the field sense yet but I really liked the demonstration you did here. I like how it is relatively slim so it fits into utility pockets on work pants if you aren’t in an environment where you want to be wearing a tool belt.
I do like the size of it. Most of Flukes meters seem to be smaller than other brands. It’s another thing that draws me to them. Appreciate you watching 👍
I had been wanting to try the FieldSense for some time now… but have not met a single person that had it I’ve worked around. I think they have some Clamp Versions with more features and stuff too.
Great video. I have the T6-1000 pro, I like the fieldsence. The visual continuity is great in loud, industrial environments. With the Fluke TPAK Magnetic Meter Hanger it is great. The Fluke T6-1000 Pro will handle 90% of what I do. For the rest is use the Fieldpiece SC680. I use the SC680 for capacitance, micro amps, 3 phase rotation.
Yeah it for sure doesn’t do everything… but it does what I need most of the time. I will still occasionally have to get out a different meter. Thanks for your thoughts 👍
I like how you demonstrated the with the alligator clip on your finger it still basically works. I honestly can’t think of a way that you would ever get shocked doing that, because your red lead should be tucked away and the forks are solid plastic. My guess is someone realized that taking away the metal button doesn’t really take away the feature - because you can still use it exactly how you demonstrated with the alligator clip on your finger. And maybe the legal/marketing team liked that better because then you have to know what you’re doing and be paying attention to your black lead. I think it all comes down to paying attention to your leads. If you were really careless and letting them dangle in a high voltage situation, maybe there’s a way that the button becomes hazardous.
Yeah I’m not sure why they got rid of it. I searched around seeing if I could find anything from Fluke themselves and found nothing. It would be nice to know 100%.. but yeah it still works.
A quasi-hack for traditional clamp meters, to achieve somewhat similar dual-readings (though not exactly simultaneously), is to use a FLIR TA55. You could measure the amperage, then quickly switch to voltage and insert the leads into the same unit.
They got rid of the button because of ground and accuracy. When dressed in full PPE including insulated boots or if your on a ladder your body is not a reliable ground. This new Pro is far more accurate and it’s True RMS as well, very nice unit.
OSHA considers meter probes as an extension of your hand for approach distance purposes. The utility I work for has a 13" approach distance to 480v and as such you need to be in the properly rated gloves to use meter. Fluke may have had concerns about customers using this meter bare handed in such situations. I think being able to use field sense function while fully gloved makes good sense and removing the exposed button is more likely a safety consideration......
Im always wary of different brand amp clamps and I love my old fluke clamp style volt/amp meter and have recently bought and tried the fieldpiece volt/amp meter with the nice swivel clamp feature for easier viewing but when I compared the amp reading with my fluke the fieldpiece always shows less amps. I noticed that your good old fluke shows less amps that the fieldsense meter and I am curious about your thoughts on this. When it comes to accuracy does the fieldsense have to have the wire all the way in and touching the back for an accurate reading? I like the open style clamp but sometimes you just don't have alot of room to work with in boxes. Thanks so much for the great videos
@GeminiSeven43 I have always noticed slight variations between meters, but nothing significant.. at least not significant for the work I do. If something has 10.2 or 10.4 amps for me doesn’t usually change a whole lot of the diagnosis. There are some people where it would matter. On the wire placement it just has to be in the fork.. it doesn’t have to go all the way back and touch the backside. They may say you get better accuracy the further you have the wire within the fork. I’m not sure if I’ve noticed any difference.
Your receptacle voltage is low at 114vac. Is your nieghborhood that low everywhere else? just curious! Great video. Thanks for sharing! Russ, 29 years in the Electrical Trade.
No I haven’t. I have had it for probably 10 years or so and If I could only have one meter, it does everything I need one to do. You can get some models below it that don’t have capacitance for a little cheaper if it’s something someone doesn’t use. It gives accurate and fast readings. It’s pretty instant on capacitance, where some of the cheaper models I’ve tried (KAIWEETS, etc). They will check it, but it takes several seconds. Not a big deal to wait a few seconds, but during those seconds I always end up moving my probes thinking I’m not touching something correctly which starts those seconds all over again.
With the 324 you measured 11.7A and the t6 measured 13.9A. That's a pretty big difference. So which one is more accurate? Why didn't they show the same measurement if they're both sensing the magnetic waves to measure?
Could have been the amount of time between the measurements that the amperage changes some 🤷♂️ but I get that is probably a little bigger difference than usual. I’m not sure which one is more accurate, I don’t have any type of equipment to set something to see. Most of my work is not stuff that matters to the decimal
field sense is a bit less accurate compared with the amps and voltage measurements you have as options on the rotary switch; I believe that on the pro model you don’t have the touch pad to avoid the controversy on being a potential hazard, but from the testing that I’ve seen so far, it should not be a risk under normal usage by a trained technician - see joe smith clips with the t6 600 testing; around the house I use a t6 600 and it’s enough for general electric stuff, for pv I have another clampmeter; at work I use a fluke 376 fc, some brymen and metrel testers, which I trust more in an industrial environment
The measurements are slightly different than my other meter… but my other meters have more decimals and I think the difference is due to rounding. It’s definitely not enough different for what I do, but it might be for some others. Appreciate your thoughts 👍
Will the Fieldsense even work if you don't use the black lead to ground? The button on the back of the non pro ones is pretty handy but just curious if it will still work if you don't use it. Thanks!
I have the Bog standard T6 1000 , no issues , given that it only rounds to the nearest volt . Until I saw this Vid. , I was unaware of Pro iteration . I use the Alligator clip on mine often !
I feel that’s the main difference in readings is less decimals and rounding. None of my work requires that sort and of exactness. I think it will be a good meter 👍
@@MORGANSMaintenance I also have a fancier Fluke 376 FC , it does DC current , and will take the I Flex , and do esoteric stuff like Mili volts , etc . Also a nice unit !
I would think it would be that more than safety. If there were safety issues I would think you would have found some results of it while searching for answers. Since there is no real answers out there, it seems like it’s just something Fluke chose to do, more than had to do. Probably tired of dealing with complaints or something.
👍👍.. it’s been pretty much the same using the ground clamp… using my finger (like in the video) there is a slight variation, but still not much. I’d say the % of variance is the same as it states with the ground button on the non pro version Using either way the difference is so small it doesn’t matter in my line of work. Did you watch the Roast?
@@MORGANSMaintenance Ohh, good to know that there’s not much of a difference between the 2 options. I am an electrician by trade and was in a situation where customer lost one of the hot legs in a 3 phase system and was trying to trace it back to the Utility company. Good thing there was a splice in a junction box next to the electrical meter socket. I was able to get a reading there at the Polaris taps. Sure enough the lost leg was coming from the main line from the pole above. Had there not been that splice box this meter would have been the only way to trace it back up to the Utility company by simply using the fork to wrap around the overhead line and get my reading there. I am grabbing one of these meters ASAP! Will definitely make future troubleshooting so much easier. I didn’t see the Roast live, but was able to catch clips here and there. Its always fun to watch, lol!!
@@iceinyourveins-rn7em yeah the field sense is definitely a useful feature. It’s not something you would “need” all the time.. but can be “useful” all the time. Then there is an occasional time when it’s the only safe way to get the info you are wanting, or save a lot of disassembly. I’m glad I finally got one that had it. Was on the fence for a while because I didn’t know anyone personally that had one. I wondered about the accuracy same as you.
I’ve wanted it for awhile… more to try it than anything. It was always $350 in my electrical supply stores which made it less tempting, but Bezos got me 😂
Love the vids! What exactly separates fluke from the rest? Iv always used klein meters/testers and never had a issue but always heard fluke is on top. Why?
I’ve always heard the same. It’s all I’ve ever used, so I can’t really compare it to anything else. I’m sure these days other brands perform just as well. They were just kinda “the name” for reliable meters back when there weren’t as many options probably. Someone else may be able to give some specific things, but to get those kinds details it will be someone smarter than me… it’s over my head 😂
@@MORGANSMaintenance gotcha. Thank you, i dont know if your open to video ideas but some i would like to see in the future would be demo drivers, the fluke TL175E leads, stud finders, and conduit reamers! Keep up the great work!
I had a rusted pannel ko that was fully "welded" rhat I had to use my big blacl wera beater screwdriver aka basically a pry bar and I can't kill it review that !
I believe they are the AC285 SureGrip.. I don’t think they sell just the black, but only in a set amzn.to/4a3269O I’m sure there are probably other brands that will work on the leads though
@@frankspliff7037 mine works without an adapter. You just pull the regular lead off and replace with the clip. The Fluke website just says “includes AC285 SureGrip Alligator Clip”
The meter isn't as accurate when using the contact pad, it cannot be used when insulated gloves are being worn and is also dependent upon the person using it, what they were wearing and work location. It got a lot of stick from some professional electricians and was seen as a bit of a gimmick as it was a bit erratic in use. I believe the pro version also has a larger field sense area than the original to help with the erratic nature of the measurement.
Yes, it does state that it has a larger FieldSense area.. I’m not sure if that’s just between the 600 and 1000 Pro, or even the 1000 and 1000 Pro too. The readings when using the lead/clip has been pretty much right on with my 324. You don’t get as many decibels is really the biggest difference, so there is some rounding that takes place.
That would Be my guess. To me if it was safety you would be able to find instances of it along with a recall. I wonder if the connection from lead to ground button didn’t work well some times🤷♂️
I lean towards that myself. Even something as simple as the Black lead had to be fully inserted for the ground button to work…. I can see people complaining it doesn’t work due to user error in several situations.
Enjoyed your vid. I can answer your question about why the ground button was removed for the pro version. I was an EE on the T-1000/T600 development team at Fluke and this was not a safety issue all since the ground button is isolated from the black lead by 1 Megohms. This does add small error to AC voltage measurement when compared to holding the black lead tip with bare fingers, which adds 3% error per foot note [2] in the ACV spec sheet.
Shortly after the T6 went to market, Fluke's marketing team found the ground button was not used by professional electricians in the field because they wear gloves. The Pro's spec sheet could also remove the accuracy foot note that adds 3% to FieldSense ACV measurements when not hard grounding the black lead. This was just a marketing trick to make the Pro seem like a better meter when it is the same internal circuitry (sans button and protection circuit).
👍👍.. gotcha. Appreciate it
thanks for the explanation sir. is it possible to use black lead in normal version rather than using finger ground button? if so I think pro version doesn't make much sense to me anymore. also I would really like to see vibration option for continuity tests in this device like some others already have
@@alpaycelikel Yes, the black lead is the same in both versions. I don't know what you mean by vibration option for continuity tests. If there is such a thing, I can't help you since I an currently enjoying retirement.
@@pondude7809 thank you for your response sir really appreciated. Re to vibration option, its not easy to hear continuity test beep in noisy environments and sometimes screen lights are not visible -especially under daylight- so some devices are emits small vibration to let you know continuity is there
I'm not sure how you keep testing all the tools I like but I hope it keeps up!
I’ve been wanting to try out this FieldSense for a long time. I work around a lot of people that use meters, but nobody has ever had one.
You always do such a great job with your presentations/reviews. You deserve everything you receive from your efforts because you really have a great approach to providing useful and interesting information for all of us!
Appreciate that 👍👍
I've had the back button one and returned it soon after. The issue I had was flakey readings and inaccuracies which I wasn't the only one many videos at the time complained including Ave. Some videos I saw also had to do with corrosion and failure of the coin on the back as well. Another one I saw was issues with grounding with the right combination of boots ppe and clothing. I'm trying to make money not problems so along with the backlight going to the pro was a easy choice. Just the visual quick check saves time when there's a rats nest of wires in a box. I got 6 or 7 cases off azon to find the slimmest case to protect it further and aproca hard carry case was the winner even over the real deal fluke case. I did see concerns over grounding to yourself and having a heart condition or pacemaker but fluke debunked that quickly as it is safe. Hope this helps and if you do even residential and don't wanna untangle that rats nest box it's worth every penny.
Appreciate the heads up on the case... Yeah for $20 more... I think its worth getting the Pro.
I think the Fieldsense is a really great feature. Its not like you "Have To" use it, but its a great option in times that you can use it to save time.
I have the T6 1000 pro and I love it. I also had the T6 1000 and the back finger button wasn't too reliable. But when I used the black leads for ground, it worked perfectly. Also, the T6 1000 pro was made for industrial environment and as I said before, using the black leads was more reliable than the back finger button. Hope this blog helps you.
The Field Sense is super nice in my opinion. Worth having for sure 👍
Just got mine this week for the exact reason you did. The holster for easy access. So far I’m liking it. The job I did yesterday it came in real handy having it in my hip to grab and test the disconnect I was installing.
I’m glad I bought it. The Field-Sense isn’t always necessary, but really nice to have.
I just purchased the 378fc just for field sense when dealing with 480v 3 phase hvac electrical. The safety of not having to use my leads is definitely comforting. My diagnosis time has decreased overall, and it has a few other tricks up its sleeve. I love the larger dual readout screen. I was actually considering getting the T6-1000 (non pro) just for the fact that you dont have to use the black lead as a ground. My 378fc also needs the black grounded but has a standard clamp, and field sense is at the tip of the clamp. This allows me to hang it on a wire and then turn on the power so its hands free. Plus, with fluke connect, I can put in a unit with the panels on and get the measurements on my phone. I do wish mine had the ground button on the back as an option, not having to mess with leads at all would be nice. As far as the t6 and t6 pro. You get better accuracy, and the field sense area is larger. It's not much larger, but when sticking your hand in a panel, every little bit helps.
Yeah, If it was for accuracy, I wish they had just left the button as an option and stated for better accuracy use lead/alligator clip… but maybe it became a safety thing. Maybe even a safety thing for goobers using it wrong 😂
I would have liked to have to option to go lead-less when the few extra bolts here/there didn’t matter. I figured the Backlight and Holster were worth getting the Pro over the button. I almost just bout the 1000 though, and was just going to buy the clip and use it when I needed better accuracy.
Hey man. Nice video. I have the T6-1000 pro and have found it to be a decent meter and the fieldsense to be pretty helpful. Especially with how common fingers are connections are and it is frequently difficult to find a hot point. One thing I did that I have found to be helpful was a bought an extension lead for the ground and that makes it a little easier to work with that ground cabe connected.
Extra cable is a good idea… especially in bigger panels.
Appreciate your thoughts 👍
hello sir. Can you test a whole wire (Outer jacket hasn't been removed) to get voltage reading. I always see the test with just the hot wire alone.
@@RichUS01 it has to be individual wires to get accurate readings
@@MORGANSMaintenance thank you much Sir
Thank you for showing off tools that have made my work so much easier
I had been wanting one of these for a while. The field-sense is really nice 👍
i do a lot of evaporator defrost heater testing and the Field-Sense saves me around 70% of time compared to before. i no longer need to mess with the wires of the heaters to get voltage reading
It’s definitely worth having… now that I have it.
Appreciate your thoughts on it 👍
I have the T6-600 and find it super handy. If I could go back, I would've bought the 1000. I think you made a good choice there, MM.
I've found that grouding the lead for FS voltage measurements yields more accurate readings, but that doesn't always matter for simple troubleshooting.
The T6 series also has a built-in LoZ filter for eliminating ghost voltages. Pretty handy, considering not even my 87V has one! The LoZ has helped me out a few times troubleshooting power supply units for industrial controls.
Appreciate the info. I think it will be a real useful meter 👍👍
Now, thats a nice feature,(LoZ), to be able to confirm Ghost Voltage, is a nice added confirmation, and added level of safety...
@10:21, time stamp...
Thats a nice feature, to have both readings, at the same time(dual reading), and to be able to keep the wire nut, or wires , still connected how they were found, in the box..
And testing them in this way, checks, and varifies, if there are issues with the integrity of those wires connections, to each other....very nice....
Love.the Grounding Clamp, method, it seams like the best way to get accurate readings....
.thanks for the video....
Very informative....
It is pretty nice to allow faster ad safer measurements in certain situations. I wasn't sure how well it would work, but it seems to work pretty well.
Appreciate it 👍👍
This IS my every-day carry in a professional industrial setting. It's sensitivity may not be sufficient under certain troubleshooting situations, so I'll use the Fluke 375 FC clamp meter or 789 ProcessMeter when finer data is necessary.
I like this T6-1000 so much that I bought one for home use. I've been using these for several years, and I highly recommend them!
(I think there has been some question of safety concerning possible continuity between the ground lead and the finger ground if the ground lead were to be placed on a hot wire. I've not experienced any such problem, but perhaps just the thought of possibility was sufficient for Fluke to nix it.)
Appreciate your thoughts. I think I’m really going to like it.
I wondered about the ground button because if it’s not a safety issue I didn’t understand why they would get rid of it. Accuracy may be less… but you could have left it an option and stated, for best accuracy use lead or alligator clip.
If it was a safety issue, I wondered what was happening
I got this tester because it was recommended to me to “grow into” I haven’t used the field sense yet but I really liked the demonstration you did here.
I like how it is relatively slim so it fits into utility pockets on work pants if you aren’t in an environment where you want to be wearing a tool belt.
I do like the size of it. Most of Flukes meters seem to be smaller than other brands. It’s another thing that draws me to them.
Appreciate you watching 👍
Can't go wrong with a Fluke . Best VOM on the market.
It’s all I’ve ever really had. All I’ve used have been really reliable
woot! thank you, I had no idea fork meters could do Volts & Amps like that.
I had been wanting to try the FieldSense for some time now… but have not met a single person that had it I’ve worked around.
I think they have some Clamp Versions with more features and stuff too.
378fc is a clamp on with field sense- $600 though
@@Penguin545 710+ now
Glad to help a fella,especially when he is testing tools I like too….
Appreciate it 👍👍
Great video. I have the T6-1000 pro, I like the fieldsence. The visual continuity is great in loud, industrial environments. With the Fluke TPAK Magnetic Meter Hanger it is great. The Fluke T6-1000 Pro will handle 90% of what I do. For the rest is use the Fieldpiece SC680. I use the SC680 for capacitance, micro amps, 3 phase rotation.
Yeah it for sure doesn’t do everything… but it does what I need most of the time. I will still occasionally have to get out a different meter.
Thanks for your thoughts 👍
I like how you demonstrated the with the alligator clip on your finger it still basically works. I honestly can’t think of a way that you would ever get shocked doing that, because your red lead should be tucked away and the forks are solid plastic.
My guess is someone realized that taking away the metal button doesn’t really take away the feature - because you can still use it exactly how you demonstrated with the alligator clip on your finger. And maybe the legal/marketing team liked that better because then you have to know what you’re doing and be paying attention to your black lead. I think it all comes down to paying attention to your leads. If you were really careless and letting them dangle in a high voltage situation, maybe there’s a way that the button becomes hazardous.
Yeah I’m not sure why they got rid of it. I searched around seeing if I could find anything from Fluke themselves and found nothing.
It would be nice to know 100%.. but yeah it still works.
A quasi-hack for traditional clamp meters, to achieve somewhat similar dual-readings (though not exactly simultaneously), is to use a FLIR TA55. You could measure the amperage, then quickly switch to voltage and insert the leads into the same unit.
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That screen blink is very helpful. I don’t think any of my older Flukes do that.
None of mine do. It has a light for the screen you can turn on, but that green color makes it more readable in my opinion than just the regular light.
Awesome tutorial and demonstration. Trying to self teach myself how to use these safely
Appreciate it. There are tons of videos out there these days to check just about anything… makes it super nice 👍
They got rid of the button because of ground and accuracy. When dressed in full PPE including insulated boots or if your on a ladder your body is not a reliable ground. This new Pro is far more accurate and it’s True RMS as well, very nice unit.
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I wish it measured capacitance. At least on the beefy T6-1000
Me too… that makes me have to keep another meter in my truck. It’s the one thing missing for me.
OSHA considers meter probes as an extension of your hand for approach distance purposes. The utility I work for has a 13" approach distance to 480v and as such you need to be in the properly rated gloves to use meter. Fluke may have had concerns about customers using this meter bare handed in such situations. I think being able to use field sense function while fully gloved makes good sense and removing the exposed button is more likely a safety consideration......
👍👍.. I agree that is the likely scenario. Cover your butt approach
Im always wary of different brand amp clamps and I love my old fluke clamp style volt/amp meter and have recently bought and tried the fieldpiece volt/amp meter with the nice swivel clamp feature for easier viewing but when I compared the amp reading with my fluke the fieldpiece always shows less amps. I noticed that your good old fluke shows less amps that the fieldsense meter and I am curious about your thoughts on this. When it comes to accuracy does the fieldsense have to have the wire all the way in and touching the back for an accurate reading? I like the open
style clamp but sometimes you just don't have alot of room to work with in boxes. Thanks so much for the great videos
@GeminiSeven43 I have always noticed slight variations between meters, but nothing significant.. at least not significant for the work I do. If something has 10.2 or 10.4 amps for me doesn’t usually change a whole lot of the diagnosis. There are some people where it would matter.
On the wire placement it just has to be in the fork.. it doesn’t have to go all the way back and touch the backside.
They may say you get better accuracy the further you have the wire within the fork. I’m not sure if I’ve noticed any difference.
Your receptacle voltage is low at 114vac. Is your nieghborhood that low everywhere else? just curious! Great video. Thanks for sharing! Russ, 29 years in the Electrical Trade.
Yeah it runs around that around my area… 114-117ish. I live in a Rural area.
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Have you ever done a review on your Fluke 324 before? I’m interested in buying one, but I’d love to hear about your experience with it first🙃
No I haven’t. I have had it for probably 10 years or so and If I could only have one meter, it does everything I need one to do.
You can get some models below it that don’t have capacitance for a little cheaper if it’s something someone doesn’t use.
It gives accurate and fast readings. It’s pretty instant on capacitance, where some of the cheaper models I’ve tried (KAIWEETS, etc). They will check it, but it takes several seconds. Not a big deal to wait a few seconds, but during those seconds I always end up moving my probes thinking I’m not touching something correctly which starts those seconds all over again.
Great video i like that fluke looks very easy to use . Might be about time to replace my old Klein. Thanks Morgan
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I wish it had capacitance on it.. but I have other meters that will do it, and it’s more rare I need it
With the 324 you measured 11.7A and the t6 measured 13.9A. That's a pretty big difference. So which one is more accurate? Why didn't they show the same measurement if they're both sensing the magnetic waves to measure?
Could have been the amount of time between the measurements that the amperage changes some 🤷♂️ but I get that is probably a little bigger difference than usual.
I’m not sure which one is more accurate, I don’t have any type of equipment to set something to see. Most of my work is not stuff that matters to the decimal
field sense is a bit less accurate compared with the amps and voltage measurements you have as options on the rotary switch; I believe that on the pro model you don’t have the touch pad to avoid the controversy on being a potential hazard, but from the testing that I’ve seen so far, it should not be a risk under normal usage by a trained technician - see joe smith clips with the t6 600 testing; around the house I use a t6 600 and it’s enough for general electric stuff, for pv I have another clampmeter; at work I use a fluke 376 fc, some brymen and metrel testers, which I trust more in an industrial environment
The measurements are slightly different than my other meter… but my other meters have more decimals and I think the difference is due to rounding. It’s definitely not enough different for what I do, but it might be for some others.
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Will the Fieldsense even work if you don't use the black lead to ground? The button on the back of the non pro ones is pretty handy but just curious if it will still work if you don't use it. Thanks!
You still get Amps, but not voltage
I have the Bog standard T6 1000 , no issues , given that it only rounds to the nearest volt . Until I saw this Vid. , I was unaware of Pro iteration . I use the Alligator clip on mine often !
I feel that’s the main difference in readings is less decimals and rounding. None of my work requires that sort and of exactness.
I think it will be a good meter 👍
@@MORGANSMaintenance I also have a fancier Fluke 376 FC , it does DC current , and will take the I Flex , and do esoteric stuff like Mili volts , etc . Also a nice unit !
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Nice review.
Removing that ground button may be because of accuracy problems when using PPE.
I would think it would be that more than safety. If there were safety issues I would think you would have found some results of it while searching for answers.
Since there is no real answers out there, it seems like it’s just something Fluke chose to do, more than had to do. Probably tired of dealing with complaints or something.
I've seen quite a few apprentices in the Northern Virginia area with them.
I think it’s a pretty good tester so far 👍
I got the older T6, don’t like it. But really want this one, to catch volts and amps at one time
👍👍… it’s definitely a nice feature. The more info you can get is always helpful in anything
It would
Have been nice to compare the the field sense reading with the test probe readings in my opinion.
👍👍.. it’s been pretty much the same using the ground clamp… using my finger (like in the video) there is a slight variation, but still not much.
I’d say the % of variance is the same as it states with the ground button on the non pro version
Using either way the difference is so small it doesn’t matter in my line of work.
Did you watch the Roast?
@@MORGANSMaintenance Ohh, good to know that there’s not much of a difference between the 2 options. I am an electrician by trade and was in a situation where customer lost one of the hot legs in a 3 phase system and was trying to trace it back to the Utility company. Good thing there was a splice in a junction box next to the electrical meter socket. I was able to get a reading there at the Polaris taps. Sure enough the lost leg was coming from the main line from the pole above. Had there not been that splice box this meter would have been the only way to trace it back up to the Utility company by simply using the fork to wrap around the overhead line and get my reading there. I am grabbing one of these meters ASAP! Will definitely make future troubleshooting so much easier. I didn’t see the Roast live, but was able to catch clips here and there. Its always fun to watch, lol!!
@@iceinyourveins-rn7em yeah the field sense is definitely a useful feature. It’s not something you would “need” all the time.. but can be “useful” all the time. Then there is an occasional time when it’s the only safe way to get the info you are wanting, or save a lot of disassembly.
I’m glad I finally got one that had it. Was on the fence for a while because I didn’t know anyone personally that had one. I wondered about the accuracy same as you.
Can you use it on 12-3 romex? Thanks for the review.
In order to use the field sense you have to put it over individual lines. It’s similar to how you check amperage, it just gives you amps and voltage
It looks nice, I don’t need it, but it looks nice. I don’t need it, but I sure want it now.😂😂😂
I’ve wanted it for awhile… more to try it than anything. It was always $350 in my electrical supply stores which made it less tempting, but Bezos got me 😂
I'm sure I've seen a video where the button on the back becomes live if you put the red lead on a live with your finger on it.
Yeah I’m not sure. I’d say their had to be some sort of issue with it to just ax it
Love the vids! What exactly separates fluke from the rest? Iv always used klein meters/testers and never had a issue but always heard fluke is on top. Why?
I’ve always heard the same. It’s all I’ve ever used, so I can’t really compare it to anything else. I’m sure these days other brands perform just as well. They were just kinda “the name” for reliable meters back when there weren’t as many options probably.
Someone else may be able to give some specific things, but to get those kinds details it will be someone smarter than me… it’s over my head 😂
@@MORGANSMaintenance gotcha. Thank you, i dont know if your open to video ideas but some i would like to see in the future would be demo drivers, the fluke TL175E leads, stud finders, and conduit reamers! Keep up the great work!
@@YeetPlays21 👍👍
Always open to ideas
I had a rusted pannel ko that was fully "welded" rhat I had to use my big blacl wera beater screwdriver aka basically a pry bar and I can't kill it review that !
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If I, as someone who has used your affiliate links more than a few times, bought that meter…I believe you are required to send it to me then 😎
😂… at least as part owner you should get it every other weekend
@@MORGANSMaintenanceI’ll bring that up to the judge in the custody battle 👍
Do you have product number for alligator clip?
I believe they are the AC285 SureGrip.. I don’t think they sell just the black, but only in a set
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I’m sure there are probably other brands that will work on the leads though
@@MORGANSMaintenance ok there are clip for less than 10$ but do not include adapter? They also say AC285?
@@frankspliff7037 mine works without an adapter. You just pull the regular lead off and replace with the clip.
The Fluke website just says “includes AC285 SureGrip Alligator Clip”
The meter isn't as accurate when using the contact pad, it cannot be used when insulated gloves are being worn and is also dependent upon the person using it, what they were wearing and work location. It got a lot of stick from some professional electricians and was seen as a bit of a gimmick as it was a bit erratic in use.
I believe the pro version also has a larger field sense area than the original to help with the erratic nature of the measurement.
Yes, it does state that it has a larger FieldSense area.. I’m not sure if that’s just between the 600 and 1000 Pro, or even the 1000 and 1000 Pro too.
The readings when using the lead/clip has been pretty much right on with my 324. You don’t get as many decibels is really the biggest difference, so there is some rounding that takes place.
Fluke makes really good products ... Thx
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Using your body as a ground... can't think of why they removed that 😅
It’s like the lick your finger technique.. you just don’t get the readings 😂
Great video
I really like Klein tools
I’ve never had a Klein Meter… one of the few of their tools I’ve not tried.
Dang, I meant to say fluke…. It’s been a long day.
@@THETIMINATORTHETOOLMAN been three too my friend 😂
I think it was accurateness complaints probably 🤔
That would Be my guess. To me if it was safety you would be able to find instances of it along with a recall.
I wonder if the connection from lead to ground button didn’t work well some times🤷♂️
Mine has the ground on the back. I don't like it. Sometimes it works, and other times, it does not plus You cannot wear your arc flash gloves
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Appreciate the info
they just need to add capacitance to the meter. then it would be perfect
Agree.. that’s really the one thing missing for me too.
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Fyi field sense does not work on the output of vfds
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i want one...😢
@@trollmarketshop it is pretty nice. It seems to work really well
I think they decided to take a direct approach because of inexperienced Joe’s on the Learning curve.
I lean towards that myself. Even something as simple as the Black lead had to be fully inserted for the ground button to work…. I can see people complaining it doesn’t work due to user error in several situations.