The Gerber Strongarm, spot the fake before wasting your money.
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- Recently I had decided to ass a Gerber Strongarm tp my collection. This isn't my first Gerber but all I've ever seen of the Strongarm is other peoples pictures and no firsthand experience. Looking I went on the internet and I ended up on Amazon where I found, "what I thought" was a good deal for the knife in question. Getting it, making a video and uploaded I soon found out from a viewer that it was a very cheap fake nd that I should do further research on it. I watched some videos and decided that firsthand knowledge is the best witness so I went to the official Gerber gear website and purchased on directly from them.
This video is to help you to know the difference and if you want the real thing you should for the effort stay away from Amazon. Instead go to a well know knife provider like BladeHq, Knife center or straight to the source at Gerber itself. Hope this helps you along your journey and please do Have A Knife Day.
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Id be interested in testing it and seeing if the fake can stand up to the real thing
One more thing you might of said it but might have not. The Gerber logo on the sheath on the legit one will be reflective shiny with certain angles of light. The fake will not do that.
Thanks, very informative. It appears that the main knife retention strap on the knockoff is made for a left-handed person while the original Gerber is made for a right handed person.
I found that my Strongarm is a fake by watching this video. I bought it on ebay for $28.00+free shipping a month ago. Thanks for the information and God Bless!
Brother, you are very welcome.
The Walmart prodigy is better than the strongarm anyway and it'll cost you probably 30 bucks if they still got them..
Sadly, few buyers will know or care about the difference. Amazon probably won't, they make money off of those cheap knockoffs and have no motivation to stop those sellers. Good on you to take the time to point out the differences.
Thank you. I just want to help people get the brand and quality that goes along with it. These are made in America and those that are making these cheap knockoffs are hurting American business and the families that are being supported by the jobs that are here. We cannot even verify the steels etc. used by the knockoff company. But it is better to put it out there and help educate those that know it matters.
I used to buy knives on Amazon!
Did have some good ones, and bad, the best, a Amalgam from Spyderco, the best/worst the Bark River highland special, I use both as EDC, the brkt is really an fantastic edc knife, and I use it daily, but mine came almost ³/16's of and inch tip swaying left from pommal!
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Thanks for the share of these tell tale signs of a forgery. Used to be a tyme when places like this were ... put out of our misery. Now ... I'm pretty sure some of the largest offenders are the biggest importers/suppliers ... just a different label. Thanks Mr Rexu.
Brother, you are very welcome
Fuck I actually got Fuck twice
Appreciate the video I bought one today and just found out it was fake watching this video. Luckily bought it at a bin store for $10.00 so it will make a great beater knife. Before people say I should have known as it was at a bin store. I have purchased a lot of legitimate outdoor gear from this bin store and just didn't think to dig before I grabbed it. Still at $10.00 was worth it for the experience.
Happy I could help 👍🏼
It is so obvious it is a fake at $10
Dude for ten dollars the knock offs are great. They can't match the real thing, but they are pretty strong, sharp , and great beater knives. I've had one for months and beat the hell out of it, except for the handle getting lose once, I tightened it I'm five seconds, its done very well. I have many expensive knives, love them, but if I'm in mud and muck, and running through areas I'll take a chance at breaking or losing it, the knock off is great.
Hey man! Not sure how I've missed ur channel so far! I was a foreward observers the 82nd and I'm pretty sure we were attached to third battalion when we went to hang out lol. Love the channel! I've never had a gerber on my channel before, ill have to start taking a look at those. Keep up the great work man!
That’s fantastic, I was there 89-93
@@haveaknifeday missed ya by 5 years lol, I arrived in 98, 1/319 FAR
Well, copy knives are almost always from bad steel but I have two exceptions. The firs is boker copy by enlan, where boker is made of 440A and enlan from 8cr14mov and enlan has better edge retention and the second is copy of Gerber strongarm. 420HC of strongarm is not so good as Buck's 420HC, I don't know why, probably Buck has better heat treatment. My copy of gerber strongarm is made most likely of 8cr13/8cr14mov but I can't be sure. My point is my copy has little bit better edge retention than original.
I certainly don't mean to tell people to buy copies, this is an exception and with a copy you never know what kind of steel it is made of.
@@to_the_wilderness also the theft of intellectual property is also in the mix. Misrepresentation of the product etc.
if they want to make knives well that’s good for them but at the end of the day they are stealing business from Buck and if anything bad happens if falls on Buck and not them. That’s the moral of the story. If they make good knives then they should start their own company to do so. As much as possible I want to protect an American company which is providing careers for American families. We should be able to get on board with that?
I do appreciate your prospective 👍🏼🙏🏼
Thanks for the review of both. I just got one from a pawn shop, it was new but no box no papers etc. It was obvious right away that mine was GERBER. thankfully.
That is a fantastic score
Thanks for sharing this.
Brother, you are very welcome 👍🏼
Wouldn't it be funny if the knock-off was better than the original, lol
Thank you! You just saved me from buying a knock off!
I’m very happy to have saved you the time and money 🙏🏼👍🏼
Thanks for the Video! I got mine from Amazon about 6 years ago...likely before the knockoffs appeared. The biggest blade difference I saw in the knockoff was there is a crease where the blade edge curves up towards the handle. The original has a smooth curve.
That said, if you only paid $20 to $30 for the knockoff, it might be a good deal for a toolbox knife...just saying.
True, but I hate rewarding intellectual theft by the commies. They should, at least not portray it as an actual Gerber knife.
I am so ticked off! I just bought a Strongarm from Walmart online. I know Walmart has been discounting in-store Prodigy models, so the low price on this ( $32) wasn't overly surprising. Rec'd the knife today. Packaged exactly the same way as the fake described in the video. My knife is serrated, as ordered, but serrations are way overground, too pointy, and appear fragile. Black finish on knife is shiny rather than subdued. Only good thing is knife is very sharp . Bought this from Walmart online, thinking Walmart would not be selling fakes ... WRONG!!!! Will be trying to return this. Grrr!!!
Send them back and report it 👍🏼
Dam. I thought buying from Walmart would guarantee that it’s real!!
So technically you won’t know until you get it and look it !
@mooreoutdoor sad to say but that does seem to be the case. No internal audit for the sellers of products through either platform.
I came close af to buying the same one, thinking I found a great deal. Luckily the reviews saved me from buying it
This is bullshit. Walmart gets their knives from approved retailers. This dude is full of it. If you got it from Walmart 100% you got a genuine.
Same exact thing that happened to me ...lots of fakes ....soo glad you focused on this fubar
If you really want to compare original knife and copy, make edge retention test on cardboard or sisal rope.
I just checked the Walmart website and they are selling the strongarms at 22.00 dollars which tells me these are probably fakes.
Unfortunately it would seem to be the case. It doesn’t seem that there is any accountability from Amazon or Walmart.
You go spend 120 dollars will buy a knock off for 10 dollars and be very happy like i did. Have a nice day!!!!!!
Many tests, by many people who all work in the outdoor sector, confirm again and again that the Gerber Strongarm fake only has a few shortcomings, for example the material of the knife holder. The knife itself in particular has no noticeable shortcomings in terms of stability and durability compared to the original. Therefore, a price difference of a good 10% can almost be considered a bargain.
That’s good to know but then there’s the intellectual theft prospect and that should mean something. I’ve worked in China and you should see the conditions people work under and then there’s the loss of income for American workers. So, as much as possible I support American businesses and their employees.
Thanks for the video!
Greetings from Germany.
You are very welcome and happy to have helped you 👍🏼🫡 hope to go to Solingen someday.
I bought one of these fakes from Ali for around €18 and I'm absolutely delighted. I don't know how I can push such a sturdy, top-quality knife to its limits. Completely indestructible, in a sector that a human can experience.
It’s just that they shouldn’t be passing it off as another brands work. That’s not to hard to ask? They could call it a Berber Strungyarm and at least it’d be honest.
Thanks k.d good to know stuff . I bought a falkkiven that you couldn't tell the factory showed me the checking was one line short
I bought mine a few years ago from bass pro. Interesting video for sure. I wouldn't have never known about this if it had not popped into my feed. But as with many things on Amazon its buyer beware. Some things maybe not a big deal, but something like this, rather have the real deal any day.
I’m right there with you. At least it is misrepresentation.
Thanks for the video! I just returned the Chinese made (even says so on the box!) fake Gerber knife I bought.
You are very welcome. Happy to have been able to help.
Ah crap.... I purchased a knock off from USA Serendipity. Thanks for the detailed video and explination. Don't think they have a return policy, more fool me. Thanks again
You are welcome. It's a bummer that the proliferation of clones in the market. I wish you luck in getting a refund.
Just found your channel brotha i happily subscribed i just started trying to make videos myself I've tested the strongarm clones from temu on my channel and was honestly surprised how well they held up
Welcome to the family. Look forward to seeing your testing.
The address on the back of the fake box is "Portlamd, Oregon". Also clip point is a different profile.
Damnnnnnnn
Thank you for your video. I was about to order a strong arm from Amazon. Ordered from Gerber and they gave me 15% discount. Ended up being cheaper than Amazon.
That’s completely fantastic. Happy to see you getting the real deal 👍🏼
I almost bought a fake one years ago on eBay. I just got a real one from Blade HQ. It's a limited edition Strongarm. It's green and doesn't have the black coating on the blade. Only Blade HQ has this version.
That’s pretty cool. I enjoy their limited editions.
Man, that's a huge watch you're wearing, what is that? It would be good to see a review of it
I’ll work on that 👍🏼
i bought 2 off TEMU very cheap, and not bad for price being knock offs. I knew they were knock offs and got them for truck knives whatever. They dont have the Gerber markingscexcept for the plastic sheath when you pull it apart you see gerber marking. All this said i want to get the real strongarm for actual carry on my person.
While the china sweat shop fake may look ok you have no way of knowing what the blade steel is nor any of the materials for that matter. It's sure not going to be 420HC and tempered correctly. Many years ago I bought a cheap knock off of the Buck Nighthawk for $10 at a Gun Show. They weren't trying to be sold as the real thing though and came bulk packed with no separate boxes or packaging. This thing is a direct infringement on a Gerber product and should not be allowed in the country in this form.
@@mrweeby1961 agreed
Damn, they got me. Haha got it off eBay they did a pretty good job too. I'll just keep it and beat it up. Thanks for the video
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I actually have a Strongarm from Amazon on the way. I hope i'll be able to spot if it's real or fake. I will take your video as a reference, thanks!
You are very welcome. Good luck 👍🏼
@@haveaknifeday it looks like i got a legit one. The only tiny little detail i could complain about is a small smudge on the sheath. Thanks for the help!
How do you spot the fake ones on Amazon when they all use the exact same stock photos?
At the end of the day it’s just best if we avoid Amazon altogether and stick with well known websites like bladehq, Eknives etc.
Hi...they got me...got a fake one..but any how..what's the story with the bloody small hand axe 🪓 in corner on floor 😮...where is the cat.. 🤔
The cat 🐈⬛ is surveying his domain, returning for daily tribute.
Natürlich sollte in jedem Fall ein Original immer die erste Wahl sein, und nur in Ausnahmefällen oder für einfachere Tätigkeiten wie Bushcraft ist ein Fake ok, aber wenn im Extremfall das eigene Leben davon abhängen soll, sollte natürlich das Original-Messerwerkzeug des Vertrauens den Job erledigen.
Bought my first stronghold gerber off ebay for 35 bucks and unfortunately i snatched a fake one :( especially since after i got done throw it at a tree, there was already cracks and chips on the edge of the blade...
So i will be purchasing the real deal from gerber themselves
Thanks for the video
You are very welcome and I am happy to have been of assistance to you 👍🏼
@@haveaknifeday how sharp was your real strong hold when you first got it?
Cause I was reading reviews on the gerber website and people were saying that the sharpness of the blade wasn't too great...
@petedog1017 paper cutting sharp out of the box
Great video. Thank you.
You are very welcome, Have A Knife Day.
I unfortunately just bought the knockoff 😔 thank you so much for this video
Sorry to hear about that Brother. Can you send it back? I sent mine back via Amazon
The Gerber Ultimate Fixed Blade I just bought said made in China on the box and the sheath from Walmart. Hmm.
@@oldmiddleclass5982 isn’t that just odd that they are actively selling knockoffs with no worries?
Good info
Nothing like "Put on your boots, boot, boots and parachutes, chutes, chutes"...I have not heard that song in 20 years. I was in the 82nd for 8 years, Army for 13 before being retired. I buy all of my Gerber's directly from Gerber, only way to know that they are the real deal.
In this day and age you are very correct. Amazon is not worth it.
I bought mine at Walmart and they are original with the correct box....82 you say.....1/325 Inf......A Co, 782 Maint Bn and..... 1/ 17 Cav back before Dom Rep and after nam...went to both theaters......20yrs 2weeks and 3days.....C119 and C130's
This is why I don’t buy a lot of stuff from Amazon..
DAMN IT. I have a knockoff.
Noooooo!!! I cannot understand how Amazon can permit this fraudulent conduct.
I have one coming. I will see if it’s a knockoff.
Looking at the paperwork @3'56" check for spelling mistakes - I can see at least two - that should at least be a giveaway!
Good catch ✋🏼👍🏼
Okay, the sheath isn't as good but is the knock off knife good or not? Also what's the price difference? You can buy a knock off for pocket change from the Far East
I sent mine back, I will purchased mine directly from Gerber. They sell it for $90 on the Amazon they sell it from 82-89.99. Now, if the knockoffs want to sell a knife they shouldn’t steal the name and misrepresent themselves. If you haven’t noticed I am looking to support American made as much as possible, especially when it comes to knives. I want Americans to keep their jobs.
I went through this process twice on Amazon and once on Walmart. Usually the sellers have
Completely understandable. Should get your money back and they should get a box of rocks.
Im from the uk and im thinking of buying one from go outdoors is is reputable?
Have you ever heard of the channel called DBK? I do believe they have done torture tests with it.
Give this a watch. th-cam.com/video/fWHZZWDBDec/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4rgY8VFMlt4EflEO
Some of the fakes have a hollow grind which is a dead give away.
can you tell what type of steel do they use on the fake gerber?
No real idea
I also got one of these from Walmart online. They refunded my money asap.
That is fantastic. Keep ‘em honest.
It looks like I was duped but if I remember correctly I bought mine at Dick’s, not an online retailer. Also, the website shows the longer serial number in the product photos?
I wonder if Dick’s is also 3rd party selling like Walmart?
Whoever is in charge of their fulfillment isn’t doing their due diligence.
No clue but definitely disappointing. The longer serial number in product photos is weird to me though.
Same bad box? I’ve sent Gerber an email bring up the issue.
The shorter space from handle to edge sadly is better for cutting and carving this point i like better at the fake but anyway it is a fake
Thanks for this because I almost purchased a knockoff.
You are very welcome. Happy to have been able to help.
Well I got both of them,and yes you can notice some difference,both are made in china😅,both handle a very brutal used so is up to the budget on the user.
Gracias, casi compro uno falso 😮
Me alegro de haber ayudado.
Good review and sad that Amazon is pushing Chinese knock-offs on its customers. AATW
Very true. 👍🏼👍🏼
I've bought a Stongarm from Amazon (Amazon EU S.a.r.L.) a few days ago which just arrived yesterday.
It looks exactly like your official one. Even the same serial number.
The holster is exactly the same.
The instructions paper also looks exactly like yours.
It was also packed inside the same way.
The only thing different is the packaging. The outer box is black and about the same size as yours, but it has information stuff and a picture of the knife printed on it, on the inside it has a cardboard box which contains everything.
It also has a cardboard hanger at the top, so i guess it might be a packaging version for "in person" stores but idk.
I guess i got a real one, but im still unsure because of the packaging.
Maybe you can take a picture and send it to Gerber to authenticate?
@@haveaknifedaythat's probably the best, your video has me convinced though that mine might be a real one, from looking at the knife and sheath.
I truly hope so. You deserve to own what you paid for. Of course Amazon should do it’s due diligence to protect its customers. It’s a really good blade. I hope you will enjoy wearing it.
Oops I saw the other Gerber review and commented there on the fake
The work involved in making these knock-offs is practically the same that's put in the original product, the inferior materials and attention to detail is what really makes them undesirable.
Very true.
All said and done the Gerber prodigy I got at Walmart for like 40. Has been a better knife than the strong arm. Was twice the price... True story... But if you can, the bk 18 would be a better way to go... But it's not 40 bucks... And if it is, it's probably a knockoff😂..
I really do like the XL series. Wish I did pick up the 47. But I do have some of the others.
I also a fan of knives design by Mr. Becker.
@@haveaknifeday me too I got the BK-9 bk 18 and I a esee which I'm a big fan of..
Love the thigh gap lol
Knowing the features of this/any particular knockoff is not very helpful.
Knowing the features of the genuine article makes spotting the fake(s) easy.
That’s why it’s important to see them side by side so as to see the pointed out differences.
Interesting times these we live in.
There is a flood of information out there but finding the relevant is the mission.
CRAP! I got a knock off!
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Man you have to thank the knock off cause if they copied the legit 100%, then we cannot tell which is legit and not hehehehe...😅🤣😂......
Dude, Me and my buddy are taking a bet. Which party do you follow? D or R?
@@parrishinvestigations952 what is your gut feeling? 🤣
@@haveaknifeday I said Democrat
I’m a constitutionalist.
If you’re a constitutionalist, you value the constitution as our founders envisioned. You believe in limited government and individual rights. You believe that the constitution is a living document that judges can interpret, but only within the meaning of its original intent.
@@haveaknifeday There's nothing wrong with that!!
I learned that Both knives are made in f....China 😂This is very sad just the Design are made in merica thats fake too and i dont like that maybe Both were made in the same Place mhhhh😒They have to be built in Usa as real American Blades !
Amazon is the Wild West. Bandits and outlaws. In the word of actor MK a copy of a copy is not as sharp.
The movie multiplicity comes to mind.
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Sweet fake 😂😂😂😂
If the copy is just as good as the original, where's the waste of money? Unless this is just an ethics lecture.. I personally bought from the source and recieved the big box. But if you can save a buck and the product is just as good without the name, I mean...so what then. Who do you brag to anyway over a fkn gerber knife? lol
Part of it is ethics. I am looking to support an American company and those people and the families they have. Much has been sacrificed by “saving a buck” in this country. Just as good? The difference in quality when compared showed. We cannot even be sure if the steel used to make their blades.
As for bragging? Individual choice dude. But intellectual theft is theft. Have A Knife Day.
Now, if I purchase a knife designed in America but manufactured in China, though I try to keep that as the exception, at least I know who is representing what.
The steel may not be as good. If they are using same steel then it’s just as good most likely.
Speaking of wasting money… why would anyone pay $90 for a “ real “ strongarm when you can buy a clone for as little as $10. Apparently you’ve not seen any videos on trying to destroy a clone. The clones perform just as well as the original. I call your type “ fan boys”. Feel free to spend 9 times as much if it makes you feel fuzzy.
Probably because I want to support an American company and not a thieving Chinese company. But if that’s lost on you than there you go.
Bro you broke just be quiet
YOU SOUND VERY BIAS TOWARDS THE ORIGINAL GERBER. THE KNOCK OFF IS EVERY BIT AS NICE AND AT $10 OR SO,,, A MUCH BETTER VALUE IF YOU ASK ME. BESIDES, THEY ARE PROBABLY BOTH MADE IN THE SAME FACTORY IN CHINA BUT ONE IS ASSEMBLED HERE. FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF YOUR "REVIEW" I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO SAY HOW WONDERFUL THE GERBER IS AND HOW JUNK THE KNOCK OFF IS. PUT THEM AGAINST ONE ANOTHER IN A TORTURE TEST AND LETS SEE IF THERE IS ANY DIFFERENCE AT ALL!! CHINA IS MAKING SOME VERY GOOD HIGH QUALITY KNIVES (KNOCK OFF OR OTHERWISE) THAT ARE $10 TO $25. WHY PAY MORE JUST FOR THE NAME IF THEY BOTH DO EXACTLY THE SAME JOB AND LOOK IDENTICAL!!!!
@@timc2168 first, fyi typing in caps signifies that you are yelling. Second the knife is made in the USA in Portland Oregon and you’d know that if you did your research. So, go and buy both and do the destruction test yourself. Feel free. I am pro-American and American made, served in the US Army as a paratrooper and went to war with them so guess what? I am biased and I have also worked in China, in their factories and seen their working conditions. If your want to support that and them knock yourself out. But you like cheap and I pay extra for the American made and on that Have A Knife Day. Damn, people died for your freedom, you’re welcome.
@@timc2168 also, not to mention the intellectual theft of Gerber’s copyright. China likes to steal from other countries and the people that make a living off of what they created. So, you are ok with that, I know other makers where with China or Pakistan have stolen their intellectual property and sell it as if it was made by the original company. Think about that and what it says. At least it is t happening to you.
i got my strongarm, black, plain edge, just after gerber released them, my serial number is long and ends with a D ,,??? everything else matches you're " real " strongarm to a T ,, so, having a longer serial number does not mean FAKE ????
The packaging, when you know the difference is also a big tell along with where the cutting edge stops.
@haveaknifeday this I already know. I can't remember the packaging, but everything about my knife and sheath looks legit, the slide in lock thing has gerber embossed on 1 side, you didn't show both sides of yours, you just mentioned the gap, I'm 99% positive mine is the real deal, I'm ex army combat engineer, and some " volunteer " CID stuff
“Volunteered” of “voluntold”? 🤣
You might go to the Gerber knives Facebook page and post a picture. The membership might be able to help there but the rest of the page is just random shit posts and crap unrelated spam videos. I used to be an admin there but I was spending too much time policing the page. If you let me know when you post your knife photos I’ll also take a look 👍🏼
@haveaknifeday I don't do Facebook, but thank you, like I said, I'm pretty sure my knife legit, I don't beat on my knives so I should not have any problems, stay safe brother