Kendall - I support what is wrong but I also support what is right, even if it is wrong. Cooper - I'm not prepared to say what I support as it wouldn't be right. Burnham - I used to support was what right till I found it was wrong. Corbyn - I have the same principles I always had and I support ordinary people.
There was a real attack on JC for 'lack of experience' as he said he's been elected eight times as an MP. Worked in unions and has dealt with budgets, none of the others can really put him to shame with experience. And it isn't lack of ambition; sticking with your guns doesn't get you put forward for minister jobs that often.
Jeremy Corbyn did the best here. Although it was the first time that I thought Andy Burnham answered anything well. He looked centre-right here, as opposed to his usual right.
liz comes across as a labour version of thatcher more power would make her colder and she's pretty cold now. Yvette is female blair better as a follower than leader.she'd follow usa anywhere. andy 'thunderbird1' burnham a follower, no vision. JC at least realises that 20yrs of austerity and riding usa coattails is no future for a country or it's people.
Iain Dale is one of the most right wing presenters on LBC there is, and they far outweigh the left wing presenters. I'm surprised he could even host such a debate.
Conrad Murray Any politician that says this is talking bullsh*t. They want power so they can try to get the world to work in a way that they think is best. Their way.
Liz admits that her mother was a teacher, and her dad left school at 16. Fine. But she left out the rest: "Her father left school at 16 and worked his way up to become a senior Bank of England official." from wiki That's a bit sneaky. Ordinary background my arse. Nothing ordinary about a 'senior Bank of England official' unless you're in the Bullingdon Club.
Well good debate on a simple 1 to 4 1 jc 2 yc 3 lk 4 ab . jc came across genuine and on his game yc gave good answers and scored some good hits . disagree with lk on all levels but she believes what she says ab was shocking would tell ya the worlds made of cheese to get your vote
All 3 may as well be in the Conservative party, Liz Kendall and Yvette Cooper want power at any cost even to the point of fighting the Tories with Tory policies, At least Andy Burnham would support Jeremy if he wins. Do these people not realise Labour is supposed to be a left wing party. I think its sad in the past they have tried to distance themselves from the Unions, they seem to think its shameful to be associated with the working man but OK to support big business and cohort with the people who run them.
Andy Burnham: "I'm only a paperboy from the north-west, but I scrub up well in my Sunday best." No shit! I have to know the name of the person that does your eye-liner. It's so pretty.
For me, any government who promised and delivered on reducing the amount of rent and tax I pay would have a vote for life. Corbyn really is the only vote I'd consider as he actually seems ideological enough to say fuck it and get things done. The rest of them are a bunch of slimey career politicians who'll sway whichever way the wind blows.
Imagine is no doubt an excellent choice musically but a extremely poor one politically. Perhaps too idealistic to convince enough votes to get him into No. 10.
I feel like he's got an idea of what he wants done. and if he has to be the leader to do it, then he'll do it, and build the team he needs to do so. Who wants another shit talker. Get someone in power that has actual goals.
Andy Burnham, get your phone off the desk. Jesus. Does the radio show not have the knowledge to just say "Hey buddy, take the phone away" No they'll just let it beep on.
Rent control means many home-owners will look for more lucrative returns on their property than offering rental services. So you will end up with a worsened housing shortage. If the government builds lots of council houses, its deficit will increase as it continues to lump impoverished communities together, where the greatest presents are always from the government system
Rodney Gold If the government radically increased the housing stock, first it would increase employment to build them instead of paying people a pittance for doing nothing but would kill for a job. Maybe they would increase to a level where people who work will actually be able to rent them instead of paying astronomical rents as you have to be on benefits to get a house, and also the government would get an income from the rent instead of paying those astronomical amounts of money also for people on benefits for private let. A friend of mine just installed a modern highly efficient 3 bedroom modular bungalow on a piece of land he owns for £55000 guaranteed for 30 years, 10 more than my brick house. The government owns acres of land and if there was a proper house building program the £55000 would probably drop by a quarter.
James Melville if the government hires builders, it's probably gonna get ripped off. The income from rents will largely be paid from housing benefit, so I guess that such a project will rack up the debt, which provides more instability and less security for the entire population. The answer is to spread the risk. What the government should do is sell much of its publicly owned land, so private individuals can meet the housing demands more efficiently. However I know that rents and house prices are over inflated because of monetary and fiscal policy. For too long the government has desperately tried to get everyone on mortgages, which has pushed up the price astronomically. What ever happened to SAVING up and buying a home?
Rodney Gold Saving £50,000 between 2 people on £50,000 combined salary when they are able to save maybe 10% a year (£5000 per year = £417 per month) would take 10 years! Fair enough! However, if they have kids then one wont be able to work for 10 years so that'll be maybe 15 years! If one or both are on minimum wage then they can just forget it! They and their kids can suffer insecure housing arrangements for a lifetime. What a nice society we live in. We'll reach paradise one day but at the moment the system is highly flawed wouldnt you agree? Maybe we should implement public ownership of ALL necessities and leave the luxuries to the market?
Last Labour in govermerment - Francesca Walker, a mother-of-eight who also lived in Kensington and Chelsea, defended her £90,000-a-year housing benefit claims for a £2 million villa in Notting Hill.
Naturally, Labour supporters will side with Jeremy. But for the sake of the voters - the people who swing between parties - vote for Andy because otherwise it'll be another 5 years of Tory government.
Jake Wrightson The term of another government is 5 years so it's not going to change. Corbyn gets support because he is talking sense and unlike other politicians he doesn't talk at you. His ability to debate is good to see, and he doesn't strike as someone who would go crazy if pushed to the edge. e.g. Cameron comes across as mentally unstable when he's not getting his way, constantly repeats himself and thinks his word should be considered that of a god. The best labour can do now is provide a strong and effective opposition party for the next five years. The tory party have a lower majority and there are bound to be a number of instances where they will fail to get legislation through.
Last Labour in goverment - A Somalian refugee family with seven children are living in a £2.1m luxury home in Notting Hill next door to celebrities, with the £2,000-a-week rent paid by the taxpayer.
Kendall - I support what is wrong but I also support what is right, even if it is wrong.
Cooper - I'm not prepared to say what I support as it wouldn't be right.
Burnham - I used to support was what right till I found it was wrong.
Corbyn - I have the same principles I always had and I support ordinary people.
zaygezunt This literally sums it up perfectly
+mehdi11 Thanks mate!
That opening question from Corbyn lmao! Kicking part 3 off to a flying start.
It's almost as if Liz Kendall thinks, "if just keep talking long enough, people will stop listening and think I've answered the question."
A politician that wants to widen the electorate is a politician that truly believes in democracy
"Which one of the other three candidates represents a career politician?"
Answer: Liz Kendall, Andy Burnham and Yvette cooper.
absolutely loving Corbyn at the moment!!!!!
There was a real attack on JC for 'lack of experience' as he said he's been elected eight times as an MP. Worked in unions and has dealt with budgets, none of the others can really put him to shame with experience. And it isn't lack of ambition; sticking with your guns doesn't get you put forward for minister jobs that often.
Jeremy Corbyn did the best here. Although it was the first time that I thought Andy Burnham answered anything well. He looked centre-right here, as opposed to his usual right.
liz comes across as a labour version of thatcher more power would make her colder and she's pretty cold now.
Yvette is female blair better as a follower than leader.she'd follow usa anywhere.
andy 'thunderbird1' burnham a follower, no vision.
JC at least realises that 20yrs of austerity and riding usa coattails is no future for a country or it's people.
Iain Dale is one of the most right wing presenters on LBC there is, and they far outweigh the left wing presenters. I'm surprised he could even host such a debate.
And what qualifications does Gideon have that allows him to be chancellor?
What a question! Gidders is an aristocrat and he went to Oxford, he doesn't need any so called "qualifications" or "economic credentials".
Burnham is naive if he thinks that they all wants to be leader to help the country. Liz just wants power.
Conrad Murray Any politician that says this is talking bullsh*t. They want power so they can try to get the world to work in a way that they think is best. Their way.
Liz admits that her mother was a teacher, and her dad left school at 16. Fine. But she left out the rest: "Her father left school at 16 and worked his way up to become a senior Bank of England official." from wiki
That's a bit sneaky. Ordinary background my arse. Nothing ordinary about a 'senior Bank of England official' unless you're in the Bullingdon Club.
Great opening question from Corbyn. #Jeremy4Leader
The three right wingers all agreed. Bloody hell.
Well good debate on a simple 1 to 4 1 jc 2 yc 3 lk 4 ab . jc came across genuine and on his game yc gave good answers and scored some good hits . disagree with lk on all levels but she believes what she says ab was shocking would tell ya the worlds made of cheese to get your vote
Is it me or is Jeremy Corbyn the only candidate whose eyes don't look completely dead?
All 3 may as well be in the Conservative party, Liz Kendall and Yvette Cooper want power at any cost even to the point of fighting the Tories with Tory policies, At least Andy Burnham would support Jeremy if he wins. Do these people not realise Labour is supposed to be a left wing party. I think its sad in the past they have tried to distance themselves from the Unions, they seem to think its shameful to be associated with the working man but OK to support big business and cohort with the people who run them.
Let there be no mistake. Liz Kendall is very proud.
Andy Burnham: "I'm only a paperboy from the north-west, but I scrub up well in my Sunday best."
No shit! I have to know the name of the person that does your eye-liner. It's so pretty.
How on earth did Liz Kendall ever get elected as an MP, I'm amazed she can dress herself in the morning.
Burnham was smoking crack.
Bit of a love in, wasn't it....... thankfully Jeremy Corbyn was there to give an ACTUAL opinion, whether you agree with him or not.
Kroptkin2000
Viscount Goderich was also reluctant to be PM....
If I was a leftwing socialist, I would love Jeremy Corbyn
For me, any government who promised and delivered on reducing the amount of rent and tax I pay would have a vote for life. Corbyn really is the only vote I'd consider as he actually seems ideological enough to say fuck it and get things done. The rest of them are a bunch of slimey career politicians who'll sway whichever way the wind blows.
Imagine is no doubt an excellent choice musically but a extremely poor one politically. Perhaps too idealistic to convince enough votes to get him into No. 10.
Liz kendal fake
I think I may consider the possibility of looking at reviewing the chance of voting on one of them....
Or if your Corbyn actually have an opinion.
I feel like he's got an idea of what he wants done. and if he has to be the leader to do it, then he'll do it, and build the team he needs to do so. Who wants another shit talker. Get someone in power that has actual goals.
Andy Burnham, get your phone off the desk. Jesus. Does the radio show not have the knowledge to just say "Hey buddy, take the phone away" No they'll just let it beep on.
The1Floyd all of them had phones on the table as far as i could see.
Softball question from Burnham, he's so pathetic
Rent control means many home-owners will look for more lucrative returns on their property than offering rental services. So you will end up with a worsened housing shortage. If the government builds lots of council houses, its deficit will increase as it continues to lump impoverished communities together, where the greatest presents are always from the government system
Rodney Gold If the government radically increased the housing stock, first it would increase employment to build them instead of paying people a pittance for doing nothing but would kill for a job. Maybe they would increase to a level where people who work will actually be able to rent them instead of paying astronomical rents as you have to be on benefits to get a house, and also the government would get an income from the rent instead of paying those astronomical amounts of money also for people on benefits for private let. A friend of mine just installed a modern highly efficient 3 bedroom modular bungalow on a piece of land he owns for £55000 guaranteed for 30 years, 10 more than my brick house. The government owns acres of land and if there was a proper house building program the £55000 would probably drop by a quarter.
James Melville if the government hires builders, it's probably gonna get ripped off. The income from rents will largely be paid from housing benefit, so I guess that such a project will rack up the debt, which provides more instability and less security for the entire population.
The answer is to spread the risk. What the government should do is sell much of its publicly owned land, so private individuals can meet the housing demands more efficiently.
However I know that rents and house prices are over inflated because of monetary and fiscal policy. For too long the government has desperately tried to get everyone on mortgages, which has pushed up the price astronomically. What ever happened to SAVING up and buying a home?
Rodney Gold Saving £50,000 between 2 people on £50,000 combined salary when they are able to save maybe 10% a year (£5000 per year = £417 per month) would take 10 years! Fair enough! However, if they have kids then one wont be able to work for 10 years so that'll be maybe 15 years! If one or both are on minimum wage then they can just forget it! They and their kids can suffer insecure housing arrangements for a lifetime. What a nice society we live in. We'll reach paradise one day but at the moment the system is highly flawed wouldnt you agree? Maybe we should implement public ownership of ALL necessities and leave the luxuries to the market?
Last Labour in govermerment -
Francesca Walker, a mother-of-eight who also lived in Kensington and Chelsea, defended her £90,000-a-year housing benefit claims for a £2 million villa in Notting Hill.
Naturally, Labour supporters will side with Jeremy. But for the sake of the voters - the people who swing between parties - vote for Andy because otherwise it'll be another 5 years of Tory government.
Jake Wrightson Bullshit.
Jake Wrightson The term of another government is 5 years so it's not going to change. Corbyn gets support because he is talking sense and unlike other politicians he doesn't talk at you. His ability to debate is good to see, and he doesn't strike as someone who would go crazy if pushed to the edge. e.g. Cameron comes across as mentally unstable when he's not getting his way, constantly repeats himself and thinks his word should be considered that of a god. The best labour can do now is provide a strong and effective opposition party for the next five years. The tory party have a lower majority and there are bound to be a number of instances where they will fail to get legislation through.
Last Labour in goverment -
A Somalian refugee family with seven children are living in a £2.1m luxury home in Notting Hill next door to celebrities, with the £2,000-a-week rent paid by the taxpayer.