The Afterlife Tierlist
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2024
- I rank the possible scenarios after we die in a tierlist.
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Books/lectures referenced:
Death - Shelly Kagan
Effects of the availability of rewarding septal and hypothalamic stimulation on bar pressing for food under conditions of deprivation. - Aryeh Routtenberg and Janet Lindy
What is hell, exactly? - Robyn J. Whitaker
A Companion to Philosophy of Religion - Charles Taliaferro et al.
Are You Living in a Computer Simulation? - Nick Bostrom
Open Individualism series (via TH-cam) - Andrés Gómez Emilsson
Death, Nothingness, and Subjectivity - Thomas W. Clark
I Am You: The Metaphysical Foundations for Global Ethics - Daniel Kolak
The Egg - Andy Weir
NOTE: at 15:59 I mention the band King Crimson losing all its founding members. This is a mistake, since Robert Fripp was a constant member.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:21 - Nothing
6:32 - Heaven
10:12 - Hell
12:10 - Ghost
13:48 - Reincarnation
17:50 - Infinite Loop (Eternal Recurrence)
21:17 - Simulation
27:54 - One With Everything
36:00 - Conclusion
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What bums me out about the idea of nothingness is the idea that I’ll never know what happens AFTER I’m gone. It’s like the ultimate FOMO
Yea bro, I wanna know what happens in 1000 years and even a million
I agree 100%, the idea of not seeing what’s to come makes me sad 😂
well u wont be upset once your dead because you wont have any thoughts or feelings.
Billions and billions of years passed before we were all born and we couldn't care less because we were non-existent. Billions and billions of years will pass after we die and guess what, we won't care, because we will be non-existent. Rather simple to comprehend when you think about it, isn't it?
for me, nothingness means that you won’t have a consciousness after death meaning that you wouldn’t have any reflection / fomo of your life and what would’ve happened after. so the whole fomo idea isn’t that scary for me 😭
being a ghost alone is D tier but if your homies also become ghosts when they die would be S tier
very true
No, there is no way I can stand living an infinite amount of years, being bound to one singular location, even with friends. Like no shit I have friends and it’d be fun for a few hundred years. But let’s keep it real, at a certain point, it’s torture. You can’t do shit, you can’t touch crap, you’re a ghost.
All y’all acting like you guys can last thousands upon thousands of years even with friends, like I promise y’all you guys are not him, you guys all going insane 😂
fr, imagine hangin out with the ghost bros doing whatever you want
@@Final_Actwhy no?
Yes
Without your memories, reincarnation is indistinguishable from nothingness.
That's exactly what I was thinking. If your memories are gone when you re in carnate, YOU are gone. There is literally NOTHING holding the 2 experiences together, therefore they are not the same at all.
The thing is that part of reincarnation tells you that there's a bit of your soul thats passed by to your next life so its not 100% true but not 100% false either
But your POV still exists, that has to count for something.
Or look at it this way, would you rather die, or lose all of your memories but are compensated with a billion dollars and a guarantee of a great long life ahead of you? I think most people would choose the latter. So at least a good case of reincarnation is more preferable than death.
Not completely, your essence/soul that reincarnates gains experiences. The soul doesn't forget, it's just in your current life you temporarily forget but all the experiences are still there.
The biggest misconception with nothingness is that people tend to forget time, an infinite amount of time passes by at a blink of an eye because you no longer have any perception of time
This is the one thing that annoyed me with his view on heaven. It’s like when you read a good book, watch an exciting movie, play a great video game, hang out with your best friends just telling stories of when you were younger. Time zooms by because you’re having such a good time you are completely unaware of it. Ever went to a friends house and had such a blast you were upset you had to actually go to sleep or go back home? I view heaven in the same way. Life is literally just so great up there you can’t even comprehend time anymore. Then there is also the idea that the next life is in a total different dimension and time and the physics we’ve grown up to know just do not apply there.
@@lowk3ychris484even then, it's still existing for infinite time, it's essentially the same thing
The comment is just wrong because in nothingness, you don't even exist, so there's no "different perception of time" there is no perception at all, unlike heaven.
@lowk3ychris484 true but if something goes on for ever It can't fly by. Going to a freinds house lasts a temporary amount of time, less than a day usually. Heaven lasts for ever, and there is literally no end. So there's no point where it ends and you can think back and think wow that flew by. At the same time, heaven is the definition of bliss, so I beleive it should be S tier because of that alone. Also who sais heaven has to be infinite bliss. Mabye negative emotions exists within it like sadness but these experiences ultimately lead to more bliss and a higher purpose, often hard experiences bring great meaning and happiness in the end. Heaven may be an emotional rollercoaster that results in great meaning and purpose at the end of it.
you won’t even have a perception of not having a perception of time, because you literally wouldn’t exist
But here is the crazy part:
Yes infinite amount of time can pass with, seemingly, a blink of an eye, kinda like how you sleep and feel like you wake up seconds after but a whole 8 hour sleep passed, but we only can feel this because once the day ends and we sleep, another day awaits us after, nothingness is ETERNAL nothing, so there is not even any perception of time skip and this is impossible to imagine how it feels, it's like the mind of living beings was never "programmed" to comprehend what infinite and nothing mean but this doesn't necessarily mean that infinite and nothing don't exist...
For example we tend to think universe must have had a start and it should have an end, theories exist sure, but this doesn't solve anything...what if big bang is true and no god just made everything in an instant? Simple, you just move God one step behind big bang and say "well God caused big bang" if we find out the true source of big bang you can go "well then God caused the thing that caused the big bang" it's like we use "God" as explanation to what we don't know until we eventually know and move God one step behind that, our minds are DESPERATE to know a beginning and an end...but in objective reality why is this needed? Why do we think the concept of a god to explain the thought of "universe cannot be eternal"? And plus, let's say a god exists, doesn't he start from somewhere? If God is eternal it makes no sense for universe to not be able to also be eternal OR if universe truly isn't eternal it makes no sense why God also wouldn't be eternal...
*See what I mean?* In few words we cannot imagine what nothing and infinite means especially when we talk about real observable things (extant or extinct, based on proof or based on logical assumptions) and we are desperate to think of an explanation (like God in this case) that is not seemingly real (in a sense weather we can observe it or not, not in absolute terms, God could be real) so we can dump what we cannot explain on that certain explanation we came up with...so confusing
P. S. Please don't get mad at me for what I said about God, I used God as an example because it's a big philosophical uncertainty, I don't want to hurt anyone's beliefs or feelings
The best afterlife is the ancient Mesopotamian afterlife where everyone goes to a desert of eternal twilight and eats sand.
I AM WORM
WE ALL ARE WORM
Love eating sand
Funny
by the euphrates river
Now THAT’S paradise
You forgot Isekai into another world
Lol up
Bro you gonna be isekaied into konosuba. Stuck with a useless deity useless powers
truck-kun be hitting real hard
Reincarnation is the same thing... Though being Isekai'd into another world with your original body intact just seems like being transported rather than being reborn...
that's almost the same as reincarnation except you just go to another world
The best random TH-cam recommendation in years.
I’m sorry for what you went through, I sympathize for you. But there is a reason that I am writing this, there is a feeling that you must to hear this. Jesus Christ Loves you so much that He died on the cross for your sins. And He rose from the dead. I Pray that you receive this message and start to live for Him. May you find Him and start to read The Bible! You can be made new because you can be covered in The Precious Blood Of Jesus Christ.
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We need a “how the world started” tier list I.e. Darwinism, big bang, Adam and Eve, etc
Darwinism does not provide an explanation for how the world started. It only explains how the various species on earth came about, and how they have chanhed over time.
That makes little sense to me. World did not started with Adam and Eve in the Genesis, but God created it from nothing. Big bang theory is also material world from nothing. Darwinism does not have anything to do with it.
Darwinism is big bang, and there is only two options, big bang or god
@@johnsonfromml8662 Evolution and the big bang are two completely different options that cover two different subjects. They just both happen to be true.
@@johnsonfromml8662 both of those options can exist inside the third option of this being a simulation and when I say simulation, meaning multiple energies existing at the same time converging into one. One being this present, One being our future, One being our end when the universe inevitably dies out. It's all connected🌀
imagine being born, someone drops you by accident, trips, lands on you, you die (after like 20 seconds of being born) and infinite loop happens
I mean you don't form memories at all that young so it would kinda be like limbo I imagine
Imagine being born as a factor farmed animal. Your life's purpose to be bred into existence, then be stuffed with food, to suffer in a crammed space with your kin, just to killed and cupped up for infinity. Sounds Yummy 😋
If you believe that exists life after death and this happens, there's not concrete evidence
nothingness 2
I'd just hope at least the person landing on me is a bad bitch
infinite loop is for sure D tier.
imagine dying at birth, you're just being spawn camped for the rest of eternity
Brother, That's The Funniest Thing & Probably The Saddest To Hear.
still born is worse. your just getting login banned
I’m literally dying from laughter
😂😂😂😂
yeah I woud rather a infinate life in heaven doing whatever I want than just to redo everything withoout free will
"Existing is pretty epic" is the most universally acceptable and relatable quote possible
Unless ur suicidal
Some people would disagree lmao
While my buddies and I were under the influence of a considerable dosage of LSD, at one point I looked at them and said, "We're just the universe doing stuff, man. I have no reason to believe we won't continue to do so."
you did NOT say that
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@@trxllerjokid4646 I beg to differ my dude.
@@trxllerjokid4646are saying those words not possible anymore?
Got the same message on Ayahuasca.
I like how something as profound as life after death can be confined to something as simple as a tier list
Almost as silly as something as profound as life being confined to people's electronic devices all day every day.
Do you think you are Socrates or something with this comment
@@jaydennguyen-xk1yo Either contribute something of value or don't speak at all
@xx_amongus_xx6987 like you or anyone else in this comment section, has brought any value to anything in life
😂
"I like existing a lot, but this is also the perspective of a guy who exists, which is definitely biased."
This made me laugh
Obama giving Obama a medal moment
I exist and have plenty of experience doing it. But, I hate it. I want to return to the great void from which I came. I want the emptiness of no consciousness. Thus, not all that exist have a bias toward existing. I have both existed and not existed. Nothingness is far better than existing. Of course, I do not remember anything about not existing because, well, I did not exist.
@@indridcold8433that just means you have depression man
@@hil449lol
And it's all subjective at the end of the day. Reincarnation really could go in D when you consider how awful it truly is.
bro really said he wouldn't enjoy being happy forever... you wouldn't be worried about experiencing anything else if you were truly at peace
he doesnt even know what he says. he thinks his life is better than heaven 😂
@@maty5213 his argument is that at one point bliss isn't bliss, after experiencing something for an infinite amount of time it isn't anything special. he legit went over why heaven wasn't a good option even if it is a place where he can do all of his favourite things all the time, the reason why he finds his life more enjoyable than a possible heaven is because it has an end. the things he does has meaning because he only has a limited amount of time to achieve things and do them himself. the reason he puts heaven so low is because of the idea of immortality, never being able to stop/die he would be infinitely doing the same thing over and over and over again until he eventually grows tired of it. kind of a shitty existence without an end to it
@@dea7h808the whole point is that you would never get bored and you would probably lose track of time
@duolingoowl1453they didn’t get bored, they got greedy and sought the power of their creator
@@dea7h808 maybe because he's looking at it with a perspective like on earth where people will lose interest at things that they do often. Heaven states that there's infinite joy and fun you won't get bored in heaven and not every activity is repetitive.
okay so i was suicidal and i always thought that it was nothingness and that ill be in peace.Then i met this old woman who i got into a conversation with told me " okay after you die and if it nothing its good, what if you have an afterlife? can you undo what you did? " and those.words really got me thinking..
Because that women was trying to give you a second chance to find Jesus. Do you know how many of his following witnessed his resurrection? How many were willing to die brutal deaths attesting his place on the holy trinity?
"and if it nothing its good" 👍
@@JakeHojo Idk about that, maybe just any type of religion
That kind of thinking is pointless because you can never know what are the choices you were supposed to make until afterward. What if causing harm to even the smallest of insects already makes you a bad person? And what if all sinners are treated the same regardless of the sin, be it murder of another man or inconveniencing a bug. The what-ifs themselves will make you unable to do the right choices.
In the end it doesn't matter if there is an afterlife or what kind of afterlife it is. For we will all find out - only in the end.
If I may ask, how did you meet this woman and how did you get into such a personal relationship for her to tell you that?
i feel like a perfect heaven does not allow for boredom, if it's boring it's not perfect
it depends what you define as perfect and if you think perfection exists
So, just pointless existence?
I don't think boredom is antithetical to perfection, but I don't think the boredom would be permanent. Eventually you will find something or more likely someone who makes existence worth it. I think that may be one of his short comings in his analysis. His analysis was narcissistic and emotionless in nature. He doesn't consider he would be living with people he loves and who love him.
@@Jake-nh5thno, the definition of god is perfect, 100%, and his creation of heaven would be 100% perfect, and to allow boredom would not be perfect, so yes heaven would never be boring because it would be perfect, how could a perfect being that is literally the creator never created , create an imperfect heaven when it is his goal for it to be perfect
The Twilight Zone: Season 1, Episode 28 is exactly about what you said @madalenateixeira
this is truly one of the 3 am videos ever
Has me perfectly nodding off at 1:25am during the simulation section
Fr, but its 1 43 PM hrre lol
5 am lol
@@DelRico2x same lol
watching this video at 3:03am lol
The idea that we are in an eternal loop and our entire life no matter how we lived would just be repeated sounds like a living hell.
there better be a fucking rank screen when I die
Lmfao
Inb4 you appear as unranked😂
For me i want za stats
Total money made: $600
Total people met: -2 😂
better not, i didnt archive shit so far
That 6.5 minute discussion on nothingness went so hard, I forgot that this was a tierlist
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Putting ghost in D tier was insane. I’d have such a blast haunting people. They’d make movies about the locations I roam.
same
I mean I’d think it would be nice for a few years, but it kinda goes back to the immortality thing where even if you think you won’t get bored at any point you’ll most likely will but I’d be funny to do something like that ngl😅
Me too but I'd worry that I'd end up like being sort of thethered to one place (like the house I died in, or anywhere along one road that I was run over on). Like it would be significantly more boring if people just stopped going to the house I haunted, or worse it got knocked down and I still just had to chill there.
@@JuanRivera-xx4ifi actually think it would be cool to sit and watch time progress, see where humanity goes to while being a spectator to it all that isn't really affected (you are already dead and with time everyone you care about will be gone too so like in the grand scheme it would just be like watching humanity the movie). But yea the question then becomes what happens when everyones gone, then it all links back to immortality sucking again. I just recon you would get way more than a few years of entertainment if you were a ghost I guess, so long as your not just stuck in one localised area (like the house you died in for instance)
@@Aarchemist_ yeah I agree with you in that if you were stuck as a house I’d be like watching a movie, after all the house your stuck to will be torn, replaced or populated at some point, but now I’ve got a new variable to add,other ghost,if the after life as a ghost also had different ghost then I wonder how fun or disappointing that would be, it all depends on how you get along with that person if I had to guess,what is your take on that?
For me nothingness is the worst possible scenario yet the most realistic. This is what scares me so much, because I just can't imagine not existing, just being gone for eternity.
And everytime I think about it I just feel hollowness and anxiety, it's so bad.
Dont worry, you wont feel time
@@axles6242its usually not the eternity part that worries people the most
Why do you feel it's so bad ? When you in dreamless sleep every night, you're not aware of it.
@@nokzep8118 oh yeah? Then what is the most terrifying part?
Why do you say it’s the most realistic?
I suffer from death anxiety and I get through it by loving those in my life and treating those I don’t know right. I wish for peace. And hope for light, I dream a lot it has become my way of finding happiness in my own heaven. I couldn’t watch I’m sorry. Honestly got 59 seconds in. Love you man. Infinite respect for being able to make this video
I struggled with Death anxiety for over a month too and adopted the same approach man, if it helps you I like to think by the time we are that age and our bodies are falling apart we will be ready to go.
i'm not scared of death, i'm scared of dying. the ways that i may die, and how much pain it will cost really scares me
Does the thought of dying in a plane crash frighten you? That's an example of what will in most cases be an instant death, that will occur faster than you can feel any pain
ehhhh there still would be the panic and sudden abrupt realization that you won't make it in time for next christmas with the fam.
I guess there's some pain that doesn't have to be felt on a physical level.
To my experiences usually, whenever I was fully expecting me to die I didn't feel the pain, just contempt, the pain slowly blended out of my mind, everything just got really bright, a couple of natural reactions the body would produce to physical trauma I suppose. @@todorstojanov3100
@@todorstojanov3100the moments before the death are the problem, knowing that you're gonna 100% die and u cant do anything about it.
@@orbboom6119dying from a disease is much worse...alot of pain ...
@@orbboom6119 well thats the point I think todorstojanov was alluding to.. essentially, if you say that “I’m scared of the moments before dying because of the fact that I’d know I’m 100% going to die” is simply just being scared of death and/or dying. Aka no distinction between the two unlike how the original commentator made it out to be. I think the reason most people seem to agree with you (and the original commenter) is due to the fact that (most) humans ARE deeply scared of death/dying but are scared to admit it consciously because in a way it makes it more “real”.
during the nothing talk i completely forgot this was a tierlist lmao
i was so captivated
Lucky you, I was having an existential crisis
It made me start heavily breathing and tears flowing out of my eyes lol
same
Lmao it does be like that@@SebbyDoesStuff
slug in that tub :O
"To die would be an awfully big adventure" - Peter Pan
A quote that has stuck with me for a loooong and its a great outlook instead of thinking of death as the end think of it as a new beginning to something potentially beautiful.
i find the idea of nothingness quite comforting. having thoughts & consciousness is often overwhelming, so i've accepted the peacefulness of eternal nothingness
I agree, although I beleive in reincarnation my self. Not in the usual way the bhuddists beleive though
You should reincarnate as a cat
@@KunReku reincarnation is probably my worst nightmare, but honestly if i were to come back, i wouldn't mind being a cat 🤔 they're my fav animal
Nothingness is all good because we won’t care anyway 😂
Couldn’t agree with you more
I like to think when I die I just get the "You can now play as luigi" notification.
Ahhhhhh 🤣
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my name is mario so this is beyond funny to me
@@staysthetic well hopefully you dont have to become luigi soon
Super Mario 64 4k 60FPS?
Bro imagine how crowded it would be when we died and turned into ghosts
About 12 times more crowded than earth is right now, assuming reincarnation is not a thing. If it is, then it's hard to take a guess without knowing if there's some kind of waiting period between dying and reincarnating and how long it typically is, if there's any, if you can only reincarnate as a human being and so on...
Imagine dying and then just seeing your ancestors comment on your hobbies or obvious missed opportunities
Bro I would be so horrified knowing how many times they've seen me jerkoff@@kirtil5177
@@kirtil5177 hope they weren't watching me beat my meat
Imagine if a ghost is next to you when your in the shower lol
Wow! The first 6 minutes was so good. Really this was very enlightening, fascinating, and calming. :)
Simulation could probably be any of the options mentioned (apart from One with Everything)
Heaven --- Congratulations, you won! Now play in the bonus map where you get to do what you want.
Hell --- Outside the simulation is a horrifying dystopian nightmare and you cannot re enter the simulation
Ghost --- You get a "game over" screen and are forced into spectator mode for all eternity
Reincarnation --- Your game over screen selects the next character to play for you based on your score in life
Infinite Loop --- There is only one character you can ever play, and your only option is to restart. The simulation preprogrammed all your actions so nothing is ever new.
Nothing --- when your game is over, your character is deleted. Your body starts dying immediately and then you cease existing.
I've noticed a big hole in the "you stop existing forever" scenario:
There was already a potentially infinite period of time where you didn't exist, which ended when you were born.
If you return to the state you were in before birth after you die, what's stopping you from existing again?
Nothing, it's entirely possible you will be born again and the universe repeats itself in every possible way infinitely many times. Its an interesting question, is the length of time before our birth infinite or not? Is there some starting point or does time extend infinitely in both directions
@@peamutbubber
Exactly.
So many people say "it'll be like before you were born" without thinking about the wider implications of that.
It entirely matters on what makes you you. If you have a soul of sorts then it could reincarnate into anything eventually overtime. If its your brain that creates you then unless there's some sort of time loop in the universe itself or a brain happens to be built the exact same way and makes the same choices then probably not. I think most people who believe in nothingness also believe that the human conscience is just made up by evolution and life to give the living organisms choices and reactions as it allows the organism to make much more complex choices to increase its own and others in the same species life expectancy
It won't be you.
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What makes you so sure of that?
Obviously they won't have my identity and memories, but what's preventing them from having my consciousness?
If my consciousness is something that once didn't exist, currently does exist and will go back to not existing when I die, then what's stopping it from coming into existence again?
The theory “infinite repeat of your life”, is basically heaven or hell depending on if you’re generally suffering or experiencing bliss.
I wonder what the ratio would be
Median ratio
@@ZoipTheology Unless you believe in predetermination, you can have an effect on that.
Reincarnation on earth is basically hell
But if you don't remember anything this could be our first or our 99999999999 run.
Im speechless. You did such a great job communicating the topic. I am, in this state Im in right now, most certainly believing in open individualism, or any other egg-theory-like conciousness. I have trouble communicating to the people I meet on my way about this, so I hope I'll continue to grow and learn how to communicate my thoughts and make our experience a better place.
The Good Place Spoilers ahead:
9:50 is exactly the end of the show. It’s how they solve the boring heaven dilemma; they added a door to nope out with. No one knew what was on the other side of the door, but the option of it existing made heaven more bearable.
came to the comments for this. man what a suprisingly good show lmao
Existential crisis speedrun any%
Maybe maybe but Jesus is the way tho 🗣️
bro has never contemplated death 🥀
WHY WOULD YOU REMIND ME?!
I have one every now an then :p
Jesus never actually existed tho@@platinumwil3682
I understand what you said about heaven, but “perfect place” and “no suffering” implies that eternity would never get bored and the pain of being immortal would not crop up.
Reincarnation is't that bad either tbh.
Edit: most definitely if its more than just this earth.
I wouldn't take the offer to exist forever even if I get offered the chance to feel never ending euphoria like I'm on heroin 24/7. I'll take existence erasure over that any day, time before we were born is the true underdog in my eyes, I want that.
Yeah, Heaven should at least be in S+ on par with “One with Everything”
@@No_name_to_giveYeah it's pretty good but still has suffering which is suboptimal in a way. Second-tier
I felt some sort of bias when he put heaven lower than nothingness
My take on the infinite heaven thing is that you wouldn't run out of things to do, at least on earth. People will make video games, science will advance, more videos like this will be made. If the total amount of good stuff to experience created in a year is larger than your time per year, then you would never run out
imagine when you get to sleep, your user log off and he can choose anyone to login at any time. And your life only continues, when user decides to spend another day in your body.
lucid dreaming the whole night be like nerds playing too much and wasting rl
The first segment was actually kinda deep, and then i remembered i am watching a tier list
Real
The skeleton: 🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️
It was all deep imo, first video ive seen by this dude, instant sub from me
I always put my whole life on hold at 1 a.m. just to watch a video that wasn't supposed to be that good
Rip george
The fact that we can contemplate all of this but never figure it out is wild. It feels like being stuck in a game, not knowing how u got there but knowing that in the game u create games so u almost figure it out but not quite.
Ur trippin me out rn 😭 it’s so true though
@@AndrewA23477 It's a perfect design. Whoever or however we were created, will always be too spectacular for our minds to ever comprehend. Maybe we will evolve a new ability or discover something that will lead to the answer. But it looks like that was designed OUT of the game (life).
I feel like a huge part of human history was erased, a lot of things we won't be able to learn or figure out, like the pyramids we still don't know how they were built
🎉Jesus christ loves you, his coming back soon repent and believe for he died on the cross for us to have ever lasting life.
I can suggest marc the messenger and Daniel Adam's supernatural life.
You can figure it out. Butt plug some dmt.
I don’t fear dying for “what will happen” (heaven, hell, loop, etc). I fear it because of my conscious being wiped away. I’m sure that must tie into “nothingness” but damn i can’t picture it any other way
imagine if every time we die, we actually continue to live as we have escaped that situation of death, and it keeps on forever lol
Quantum immortality. Reddit has a sub just for this. Very interesting stories.
Fucking terrifying. Imagine being immortal without ever being able to die, in eternal torture, except that this is a real life possibility
Imagine being reincarnated as a pig and being tortured in a factory farm because of a random bacon sandwich you ate that you don’t remember
lmfao
but in the positive side, you(or someone) get a tasty bancon sandwich as well
I mean if you had done bad deed then you will reincarnated as pig .....or you'll reincarnated in a magic world where you will be capture , torture and killed by a gaint big boobs thick elf women
@@GasMasked. That you wont remember afterwards.
You have better chance being reincarnated as a chicken nugget
Everyone knows all of this is just stories, and when someone dies, they just return to the main menu.
As someone who died I can confirm that there's in fact a main menu
Underrated comment
Hack
If you manage to beat the game, you unlock a harder difficulty level, like a caste system in reverse.
But if you beat it at the hardest difficulty, you unlock the *_~console_* so that you can play through again with access to the cheat codes.
@@AnnoyingNewslettersThe New Game+
Rare to see a video that actually makes one think. And I don't know how to feel about it having to be in the form of a tierlist video. Thanks tho fr
_This was a great watch! 👍🏾_
I honestly and sincerely believe that it’s basically impossible to run out of things to do. By the time you get to do everything you can fathom right now, there will be entirely new experiences and knowledge that came into existence. Society is constantly changing, new knowledge is constantly being discovered and created. I genuinely think that there’ll always be some things out there that you haven’t experienced yet regardless of how much time you have
The human brain cannot possibly imagine the concept of infinity. If you have eternal life, you will live to see the destruction of everything you’ve ever loved and when you find something new, it’ll happen again at some point. The universe definately isn’t infinite which means that you will eventually run out of things to do
@@ThreeletterIGN yeah, I’ve thought about that before. To be honest, I can only have this perspective from the position of a mortal and can’t imagine infinity. Also, if I truly were to be immortal I’d probably eventually become jaded after repeatedly losing things. Even if there technically is more to discover, I might not have the energy or interest to discover it.
If you accept math as a possible argument strategy here: The amount of things (i.e. atoms) in the observable universe is finite. The ways you can combine finite things in any way are still finite, which means that if you consider a "new activity" to be rearranging the entire universe into all possible arrangements of atoms, you still run out of things to do in infinite time. Infinite is *really, really* big.
Ofcourse, if you introduce finite memory into the equation, then yeah, you can experience new things all the time. And IMO assuming infinite memory is a bad assumption because at that point you fundamentally aren't human in any way shape or form. That is IMO a big of a weak point in the video.
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I'm not fully convinced that "The universe definately isn't infinite"
I am legitimately curious what your argument is if you wouldn't mind indulging me.
But that’s assuming you’ll continually want to do new things
I respect you for trying to be as uncontroversial as possible. Tackling something like this can be extremely challenging and can lead to many people upset
They'll get over it...when they are dead...
Well, I wouldn't call a starwman depiction of heaven as "uncontroversial".
It will never be uncontroversial.
literally how
@@praevasc4299what strawman depiction of Heaven?
This made me realize just live your best and be your best because you’ll always get the best outcome
I liked this video! I agree with a couple of the tiers, but I wanted to mention, that after death I’m not sure if you experience boredom. Cause boredom is a living trait of waiting for time to pass. And if death is eternal. Not sure if one would even worry about being bored. 🤷♂️
One of the defenses for an infinite Heaven that helps with my anxiety thinking about it is the idea that
Right now, you are in the present and only experience the present. While you can imagine how long ago 10 years was and imagine when 10 years will come, it doesn’t effect you in the present. Those moments don’t exist anymore. Therefore you wouldn’t “feel” Immortality rather, you’d experience the present, always.
Idk it’s a cool way of thinking about it
Wow, I've never seen this worded out like this and even thought I be the only one thinking this. 😂
I literally thought of your present argument last night, what a coincidence. It kind of explains where we go to when we sleep and the fact that we don't remember sleeping when we wake up, same scenario for coma.
That's actually a good argument. You could also compare this to how God (if we are refering to the concept of God in abrahamic religions) is timeless, therefore his realm is too. So we wouldn't be experiencing existence in a linear way.
@@alonso4460 actually it is also consistent in a philosophical sense the fact that we can't really define now as in which instance this millisecond, microsecond, nanosecond, picosecond or any form of interval smaller than that. You can infinitely keep going smaller and this kind of confirms your statement of timelessness.
Also, eternity has the double meaning of being timeless, as in time just isn’t a thing there. Which would make sense and be consistent with many other spiritual things
Ghost next to hell is crazy, being a ghost would be crazy. Imagine nobody being able to see you and you can move anywhere
Hell is infinitely worse
Fantastic. I'd be the most perverted ghostly bastard to have ever existed ( not existed)
@@cartman7353to hell with that
@@cartman7353 ture , his point was that being a ghost is nowhere near being as bad as goin to hell , so pratically we both agree that he's right , it would probably be a S tier afterlife
Is that supposed to be good or bad? That's very ambiguous because no one seeing you is pretty scary.
Amazing video,super interesting and professional,congratulation
What bums me out is that I am afraid to die and while I am young I don’t know how to overcome that fear. One day I will have to face it, it won’t just be an idea that I am afraid of.
Reincarnation freaks me out because the majority of life is ended viciously. You would experience every torment. Think of all the most horrendous deaths there are. The people flayed alive, burned to death, tortured by terrorist groups. If you came back as a mouse, youd almost certainly get ripped apart by a predator.
Do you mean one with all? That's not reincarnation
To be fair, most, if not all ideologies that support the concept of reincarnation do prescribe a way to break the cycle of reincarnation.
yeah i had this tought too, and it kinda sucks, but think both ways not only bad stuff there, you would also expirience every joy that was there, every first love, every fullfilment, and also the best feeling ever that was there... the only question is, is it more bad stuff or good. depends on how we treat the world around us. if you look at it this way.... they say spread love. what goes around, comes around. Karma. It has something. makes sense
its the best one if your good in your life rn
2pac once said:
"Are you afraid to die? Are you ?
- Nwah, my biggest fear of death is reincarnation"
I figure in Heaven, due to being there for eternity, you likely would be made unable to be bored. Also, spectating Earth will always be fun.
That’s not classical Heaven but still, spectating earth wile its a nuclear wasteland it’s not fun
and in heaven you dont feel "time", you just cannot describe or feel how long you were there so saying "in 1000 years you will be bored" is wrong
@@EDP-6000That just sounds like your no longer consciously aware. Most animals don’t perceive time because they aren’t conscious enough to notice time passing. So if what your saying is true. You would no longer hold thought or sense of self. Because if you did then you would be aware of time passing. If that’s an existence your okay with then by all means do you.
@@superstimpak1768So what's your point? Is that a bad thing?
@@LucaGiovanni490 I wouldn’t say it’s a bad thing. If you are fine with giving up who you are for a eternal existence. Then like I said do you. It’s not much different than nothingness in the end. As for the point, it was just to explain the trade off for not being able to feel time pass.
I think the one thing that has always interested me is finding out the reason behind the universe. What created it and why or how, and what made it and every other unknown bizzare thing about our universe. Mabye we are in a multiverse and if so where is that and so on. I wish to live for as long as i need to figure these things out so the fear of dying is great for me. I know I'll never know but i just wish to share this thought.
Finally found the term which i want to describe my thoughts, Open Individualism. Thank you
The best afterlife I can think of would be a lucid dream. You can either be a god and change things manually, or let everything play out randomly.
I feel like we would become insane after some time, and the only thing we will see is some colors making colors
@@cringe805 only if we still are human when we die, if we're dead there's nothing to say we would still think or feel or experience the same
sounds like being alive
hell yeah
and then you get bored and become a mortal being again
What a wonderful video to watch before I plan on sleeping
sleeping is a free trial of death🤭
Dont forget to wake up :D
"I never sleep cause sleep is the cousin of death" - Nas,NY state of mind
beyond the walls of intelligence, life is defined
I think of crime
when I'm in the new york state of mind @@drqgoss4361
@@ahgwsndo u dream when ur dead tjoigh
Congratulations, you made me have 10⁴⁶ existential crises
Nice thought provoking video - The maybe existence might be variously acceptable forever for consciousness instead of boring not realizing gone...
death is so terrifying for me because the thought of not being terrifies me, which is terrifieng to me because not existing after already having expierinced consciousness is the frightening part
Its not so bad, at least you won't be aware of your non-existence
I just live to surpass that fear, it just petrifies me.
Do not worry. If you blink back to nonexistence, you will not feel a thing. You were nothing for eons before you were forced to exist by the selfishness of others. Being nothing never bothered you. It could not have bothered you because you had no consciousness. This is exactly why I want to return to nothingness. Nothing could have ever gone wrong. But then, nothing could have ever gone right, as well. I have lots of complaints and dislikes about existing. I had none about not existing. I want to be nothing again so much that I sometimes think about expediting the process.
Now imagine after you death it's all blankness, you can't see nothing and hear nothing, yet your consciousness is still existing, you are still thinking but you're stuck in this eternity of nothingness. That'd really suck and is 1000x more terrifying. Simply stop existing doesn't sound so bad in comparison
@@DaInternetBearthat's the problem
this video gave me five panic attacks and 3 existencial crises
10/10 would watch again
edit:oh wow,a lot of people found me relatable,also fixed spelling error
Infinite loop?
Also me
were you born yesterday
existential crises
you could have just clicked off 😨
Infinite loop theory kinda explains deja vu's like u just have the same life over and over and sometimes a little memory rushes trough your mind that makes u say "hey i saw that before!"
using the term min/max when talking about living a moral life was crazy
“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” - Mark Twain.
For me, the good part about existing is the positives of life. The good part of not existing, or being asleep forever, is being free from the negatives and suffering of life: all the anxiety, misery, stress etc. Me personally, I do kinda like the idea of just not existing, being asleep forever.
the suffering exists because death exists, all pain comes from stuff related to death directly or indirectly.
the only way to truly end suffering in the universe is to spread immortality to all beings.
death in this case is literally the nothing, it does not matter at all and it just should end since life has a purpose and death dont even try to survive.
Falling asleep is comfy, because you assume you will wake up. Falling asleep knowing you won't wake up is separate thing entirely. I don't think a lot of us are looking forward to this.
@@AyoKeito XD this was a funny and true comment, idk if u meant to be humorous or not but i agree anyways.
I don’t mind it either, the only thing that irks me is never being able to see my family. I wouldn’t know because I’d be dead… but still the thought bothers me sometimes.
This quote is very comforting.
this video summarized what's on my mind during the last school year instead of my studies 💀👍
I literally have a mock exam tomorrow and I’m here for some reason instead of sleeping lol
SAMEE
If we die into nothingness, then we wouldn’t know we don’t exist and that means we don’t know that we don’t know we exist, so basically not existing is a paradox, that’s crazy.
Do the school really matter now? When you don't even know what is the point of your life
...what i zoned out to in my final exams last year
As a child i asked my dad whats happens when we die and he told me you go back to where you came from. I dont fear nothingness because thats where I was for all of eternity before i was born and during that time I was not sad or scared. Knowing that your brain is programmed to fear death instead of it actually being something to fear is comforting.
U Gave me an existential crisies, but u also healed the existential crisies you Gave me
Thought this video would cause an existential crisis but ended up being oddly comforting. Thanks man.
🎉Jesus christ loves you, his coming back soon repent and believe for he died on the cross for us to have ever lasting life.
I can suggest marc the messenger and Daniel Adam's supernatural life.
@@orebbeccap4119Jesus Christ is not real buddy
@@GojosTheGoat
Tell me why a billio people have near death experiences and that were brought back ended up seeing either heaven or hell.
I just started recovering from the biggest existential crisis ever. Nothing can phase me now
@@GojosTheGoat you both really missed one of the points of the video huh
literally nothing can be proven or disproven regarding religion, the afterlife, etc because we have no way of knowing for certain. Belief in Jesus, God, Heaven, Hell, Buddha, Allah, nothing, etc is simply a belief that cannot be proven, and cannot be disproven
“When you are living, death isn’t there. But when you die, you don’t exist to die, making you immortal.”
-0 iq, 🧠🤏🤏🤏
Im a god
Only then you're free
What is this quote from
It's comforting to know a lot of people share this idea
I have been thinking about death for like a week non stop and its kinda relievening to see this video. To see another perspective and to see my same from some one else. I also had the idea of the eternal loop. And it could be always like the "first time" aas we do not remember it
we will have to wait in the lobby for sure
I honestly think having your memory wiped every now and then in heaven would be the best scenario.
A heavenly reincarnation, a new you every so often.
Locked in an infinite loop of repeating the same actions forever, but you don't know it.
Maybe you can extrapolate that this existence could be your own heaven/hell depending on how your life is going. It's on a loop that you forgot happened as soon as you die and are reborn. Would that be a heaven that makes you happy?
ok pol pot
I honestly rather have nothingness then because that reality seems like i'm mindless in a machine. I think nothingness is simply better then heaven in general because there is no way I can remain happy with complete free will over my thoughts and memories
@@kyanite7843 Nothingness is not better than heaven lol. By definition heaven is perfect, and peaceful. You will be peaceful even with your free will because you will inherit gods knowledge and wisdom.
@@kereal2591 And what if I miss my loved ones? What if I know a loved one is in hell? Will inheriting gods knowledge erase my human emotions? Again, I don't desire any afterlife where I don't have free will over my thoughts and memories, if that is altered then I would rather have nothingness.
I'm really fascinated with this topic. I'd love to find a way to explore the mysteries of death and potential afterlife...
Bom video cara! Concordo com você e sua tier list
I've thought of something similar to the last one, like once we die, we just wake up as a small kid with no memory, and then just live life as it was. It's like we are constantly waking up.
I mean I just thought it was possible too. I wonder if if that was the case, would variables in life change? Pretty interesting concept to me
Imo this is probably the one i would want
Honestly when i almost died That's what happened to me, i just woke up again before the accident
That would only happen when you are unfit to go to next stage.
In next stage you get to keep your memories.
@@Ashish700x
huh?
You're assuming that we'll get bored of things in heaven. But it could just be that we no longer have that limitation
If we get bored, it would not be wise to be call it perfect place anymore
You would never get bored. Just consider the argument that starts at 4:26 about all the possible people there could ever be. You could go 1 by 1 through the lives of those people, living just their best bits. Then jump to the next. It's infinite people, but all unique experiences. (and crucially GOOD unique experiences, if you get some heavenly divine intervention to help you dodge the bad parts) So you'd never get bored, and you would always be happy. - That's my S tier.
I think heaven will be getting better and better since not only that everyone have endless possibilities to do what they want but also whatever is there that we are yet to see there
@@mp4archieve921in the Islamic definition if Heaven, let say you took a bite out of a mango. Each suceeding bite tastes better than the previous. We cannot argue that "at a certain point we'll get tired of it", because it's limitless.
This is almost worse. If going to Heaven alters your psychology to trick you into enjoying it when naturally you wouldn't. That's very insidious and manipulative. Then it becomes only an illusion. Like what the people plugged into the Matrix experience (in the matrix movies)
god is in creative, we're in survival, babies are in adventure and ghosts are in spectator
Take me to your leader.
-George Costanza
I've probably spent every other night panicking about these ideas for the last 20 years, so having it framed in this inherently comedic way, is kind of relieving. It's a little less worth worrying about.
I also really appreciate seeing other people thinking the same things, makes me feel a little less insane. So thank you for this video.
Jesus Christ loves you and died for your sins, everyone sins and deserves hell but Jesus (God) came to earth and died for our sins, paying for them, believe and be Saved
you will never have those worries again if you start looking into jesus christ (not all types of christianity cuz some are wrong tho)
This guy did not frame Heaven in a Biblically Accurate Way. Jesus loves you, and it’ll fill the empty hole in your heart!
Just dont worry about death, worry obout living remebering you're going to die, so make it count, be kind, love, experience. good or bad is yours to get trough. and get ready for death no matter what comes after, even if its nothing.
and dont fall for religions, you can be a good person even if theres no heaven. being good to go to heaven is bribery.
Immortality is only terrifying to me if there is a finite amount of things we could do. If there was a infinite amount of things we could do, then it wouldn't really be all that bad.
Thats such a miniscule issue compared to anything bad that happens can happen to you at that point (immortality does not ensure pain or suffer free)
@@cunnylicious Well, it would depend on how much pain and suffering there is. If the afterlife is anything like hell where there is constant suffering and pain for all eternity then yeah it'd be pretty awful. But if there was only small amounts of it here and there, then it isn't that bad.
What I've come to realize is that immortality isn't inherently a bad thing, rather it is the circumstances that can change that. If the right circumstances occur, then immortality can be good.
@smugism1685 considering the global circumstances of sustainability... yeah I feel like immortality would be pretty bad
@@smugism1685if there was anything for an infinite amount of time wouldnt it be…normal? Like if youre in “eternal torture” forever, eventually you dont even know anything else but that, making it the new normal anyway. Same thing for eternal happiness.
i have theory that with someone living an infinite amount of time they would eventually gain so much knowledge and wisdom given enough time they would be able to do anything possible, create new worlds, keep other people immortal, stop any issues in the universe, basically anything imaginable. thus it would benefit to take the offer on immortality even if you have to deal with living longer than loved ones
Love the transitions
Since you talked about Nick bolstrom, I would recommend watching the anime, The Pantheon, its based on his life where he was successful in creating UI, and then there was simulation part
Came for a silly fun tier list, stayed for existential crisis. 10/10
Edit : Why tf is there a religious argument in replies??? It's not even connected to my comment
seek Allah
@@MHD69420 AllahmiuIllah brother
@@MHD69420 Jesus for me
Jesus worshipped Allah almighty@@itsnoobstuff
Same
My perfect hypothetical afterlife would be “Sandbox Mode.” A blank universe, and the power to do absolutely anything with it. Similar to heaven since both are eternal, but you are given far more freedom. You could replicate any story you’ve ever read and make it reality. You could live as one of the characters. Maybe create an original world, even. Make friends, do magic, be badass. I should mention, omnipotence means the ability to not get bored, so that won’t be a problem, either. Basically, I want infinite adventure.
Where would you rank this?
How fun would this sandbox mode be after a million years i wonder, all possible actions and reactions have a finite limit.
@@samc3769If an all-powerful god gets bored, then there is no hope.
This is basically the simulation hypothesis but you get to choose each full dive.
So basically, you want to be God
I thought I was the only one who thought of this afterlife turns out I’m not unique 💀
Im am so terrified
Of death for one reason… if there is nothing after death it’s just nothing forever. And ever and ever once you really realize how long that is something just clicks in your brain and it’s just so damn scary.
the only thing that scares me about death is the possibility of being separated from those i love, but if i can spend my postmortem existence with those people, thats all i hope for
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EXACTLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
idiot
That's why you should start reading the Quran to answer your question and to know how answer the 3 questions when they ask you
@@roy-kn7pi stfu no propaganda mf
bro casually compares buddhist teaching on reincarnation to King Crimson
*HOW DOES IT WORK?! HOW DOES KING CRIMSON WORK PLEASE!! PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME I NEED TO KNOW HOW KING CRIMSON WORKS!!!!*
@@user-KNP13 Fate is a movie, King Crimson cuts some of it. The event didn't happen from the user's perspective, so [KING CRIMSON!] during erased time. After the ending of cut time everyone [KING CRIMSON!] memory wipe effect is unknown. SO IT JUST WORKS, BABY!
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@@user-KNP13huh? A After watching Jojo I can say GER put King crimson in an infinite death loop
@@user-KNP13 Think that 1 Futurama episode where time skips forward but 1 guy remembers what happened in the middle, the skips are only 10 seconds, they choose when they happen and get a preview of what will happen in the skip.
18:38 Well mister demon it looks like you'll be telling me this at this exact time over and over for all eternity then, glad to have you for the ride.
I seen a video of someone who had a near death experience that was down a lake for 10 minutes. he explained with every detail what is was like. It was really accurate from the theory of the egg and it had happened 60 years ago. And that’s what i believe the afterlife would look like
I think “heaven” needs a rethink, because there is also the consideration that death is the process of moving from the finite state into an infinite state (not just immortal, but access to infinity, and infinite things) you couldnt possibly get bored of infinity because theres no end to the ‘new’ discoveries
Facts, inagi e talkibg to every human to ever exist, or the infinite questions I would have to ask God
From my point of view (I’m a Christian btw) heaven isn’t just like living this life forever. Fix can literally make ANYTHING. Heaven isn’t just a place where you float in clouds
There's another problem, the idea of boredom is a physical idea, so it's likely that in a place like a heaven, boredom wouldn't even be a concept we'd have to worry about, what we loved about something would be there forever.
Yeah, why we will never get bored of endless worship is because the wonder and the love of God is infinite. There will always be more things where we will be in awe of God.
theres tons of flaws with the concept of heaven. but it comforts people so they'll believe it
Came for a tierlist, got the best philosophy video I've ever seen. 100/10
I agree
🎉Jesus christ loves you, his coming back soon repent and believe for he died on the cross for us to have ever lasting life.
I can suggest marc the messenger and Daniel Adam's supernatural life.
Not really, he missed a few key points. Reincarnation would be no different than nothingness/ceasing to exist. Because YOU wouldn’t be continuously experiencing new things as a new being, you’d have no recollection of your past lives. So you, yourself, would still cease to exist.
Also I don’t believe in the simulation, but if it were to be the case, it would not in fact suck because if we are in one, it’s clearly detailed and real enough to live and experience a normal life. So who cares if nothing was “real”, if things like love, fun, fear, friendship, etc can be simulated as well as they currently “are”, then who cares if it’s not real.
@@pcmasterracetechgod5660 That's right. So long as you don't carry with you the memories that identify you as who are are then when you reincarnate you effectively become a new person, and so the old "real" you falls into nothingness.
This is interesting because with infinite loop too if you don't conserve a recollection of the events of your previous existence then the real outcome for that "real" you was also nothingness.
@@koufanking2703 Correct, and since nobody on this Earth including ourselves, remembers anything of a past life as another person or animal, we know that that's not how it works. People just need to get a grip with there being nothingness at the end. It's not going to suck, you won't be able to have emotions to think it sucks, there will be nothing.
Saying “I’m bored of the bliss” Is like saying “I’m bored of being content”
What a beautiful video!
i like to think after we die we get to learn all the past and future of humanity so we know the whole story, i hope
you need to read a short story called "The Egg". Trust me, it's great.
Bro thinks he's Paul Atreides💀
Jesus Christ loves you and died for your sins, everyone sins and deserves hell but Jesus (God) came to earth and died for our sins, paying for them, believe and be Saved
@@Zombienekershe goes over it in the video. Lol But yeah, it’s a good one.
@@LearnHowToBuildMuscle **eats Jesus**
when i was like 7 and began to have real thoughts about death, i naturally just thought death is the infinite loop (not raised religious) but there are slight changes every time you loop around, and when you get deja vu, that's the universe warning you of a previous outcome or something
Well that would definitely explain why I didn't wanna go to school that one time and considered not getting out of bed (We had a School Shooter scare that day and I texted my Mom telling her I love her it wasn't my best day)
@@chaserred4155 that’s crazy!
That kinda reminds me of the story of some worker who worked in the World Trade Center and should go to work just like he did for 30 years without missing 1 day and out of whatever reason he doesn’t wanted to go to work one day because he was ill or just didn’t feel like it the first time 30 years. In this exact day he sees the news in national tv that 2 planes just flown in the World Trade Center how can this be a coincidence
Weird thoughts to come from a 7 year old
@@bigwinterhat Idk it feels logical, I couldn't do anything in that situation. And I rarely said I loved my Mom because I felt like saying it so much diminishes the meaning of the statement. So...