Path of Exile 3.6: ITEM SYNTHESIS Guide - With an Example - Implicit Control, Base, ilvl etc

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  • How to Synthesize items in Path of Exile's 3.6 expansion - turning fractured items into actually decent Synthesized items. How the base, ilvl, and synthesis implicits are determined.
    BASE = randomly chosen from the three you put in
    ILVL = Highest ilvl from the items you use
    IMPLICITS = chosen from ALL mods on your items
    IMPLICIT VALUE = tiered based on volume of the chosen mod across ALL items.
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  • @ZiggyDGaming
    @ZiggyDGaming  5 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Ended up throwing a couple Alts on those gloves, rolled T2 life and a resist, regalled another resist and crafted hybrid life. End result 109 life 66% res gloves worth about 25-35c :D

    • @JohannLudwigEdel
      @JohannLudwigEdel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Honestly this whole mechanic has the basics of being nice but made complete dogshit by the fact that we AGAIN need some out of game resource to even make an informed decision on how to utilize it. I thought we were over this shit after they integrated tier and roll display on item information..

    • @DarkErrant
      @DarkErrant 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do implicits follow the prefix/suffix restrictions? In this case, maybe you can't get Mana AND Life because they are both prefixes?
      Or did you just get unlucky??

    • @wkmirai969
      @wkmirai969 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tiny trial worth more than that btw

    • @ZiggyDGaming
      @ZiggyDGaming  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm I dont believe so as I've seen % and flat ES on an item.

    • @AgentX2006
      @AgentX2006 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There is a 6 link Vaal Regalia up for sale for 5 mirrors that has 1007 ES on it. poe.trade/search/orinuarasikoso

  • @gortopik
    @gortopik 5 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    ZiggyD is single-handedly saving the league :D Thanks for all the info!

    • @killshotgg9631
      @killshotgg9631 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      GGG better explain his own content next time -__-

    • @SwipeSide19
      @SwipeSide19 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which is starting to get annoying as the game is deep enough as is I shouldn't have to look up EVERY SINGLE THING for new leagues

    • @gordonbman2911
      @gordonbman2911 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it's on purpose , GGG wants the players to "discover" the new mechanics and craft theories and stuff. It's a double edged sword. Makes it more interesting sometimes, but also more annoying

    • @Icoblablubb
      @Icoblablubb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@killshotgg9631 u will probably never see GGG explain any of their leagues .. we always have to rely on 3rd party websites because what GGG shows us in their release videos and league commentary is like nothing :/

    • @ezet
      @ezet 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Icoblablubb That's their decision. They don't want to spoilt it, they want players to discover. I know it's not for all but it's for some. I know this game nowadays attracts a lot of players who want to casual experience where they don't have to think at all, but that's never been the point of the game. That's more D3 stuff

  • @ofcl.faculty
    @ofcl.faculty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    best 3rd-party-website league ever

    • @ginz9r
      @ginz9r 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And forced to buy stash tabs, basically unplayable if you don't have many.

    • @andblom88
      @andblom88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ginz9r then go and buy some. Its not like you have to spend much on this game anyway

    • @ginz9r
      @ginz9r 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Support should be a choice, not forced aka pay2win

    • @andblom88
      @andblom88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ginz9r seriously!! Do you expect everything in your life to be free?

    • @cielweiss8288
      @cielweiss8288 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sméagol He obviously doesn’t, but that doesn’t mean the game should be unplayable if you don’t spend, dick.

  • @IAmPattycakes
    @IAmPattycakes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Made it halfway through, my eyes are glazing over. You do an amazing job on this content ziggy, and I'm sure there are plenty of people who are going to treat your channel as the Synthesis Bible, but I play poe to escape from college classes, not to take on more coursework that I need to study.

    • @MrRalphF
      @MrRalphF 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This. Only in my case, escaping from work where I already have to think way too much during the day.

    • @raschas1234
      @raschas1234 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah so complex, add 3 items get 1/2/3 mods based on the items you added, if this is close to your collage classes why the fuck are you studiny collage for first graders? NA Education.

    • @johnturtle6649
      @johnturtle6649 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raschas1234 You might want to go back to "collage" yourself there guy.

    • @TOGGGAA1
      @TOGGGAA1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raschas1234 "collage" lol not only do you sound dumb as shit in all the angry comments youve made, but they are written like an angry kid that can't spell anything

  • @jackd139
    @jackd139 5 ปีที่แล้ว +438

    TFW you need to take a college class to understand the league mechanic

    • @raschas1234
      @raschas1234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You need college to understand, add 3 items, get a random 1/2/3 mods based on what you add, seems like pre-school quality.. sad, so sad..

    • @sirannonable
      @sirannonable 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@kukuc96 Of course its understandable. But do I want my ARPG to feel like an entry-level administrative job?

    • @raschas1234
      @raschas1234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sirannonable Your entry level administrative job means add 3 items get 1/2/3 mods based on your items mods then I wanna have your job cause thats less than Pre-school quality maths... Jesus people are braindead today..

    • @Visardi
      @Visardi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Stop being a dick, if you have time to research implicits and use external implicit calculators that's great, most of the player base don't.

    • @windmacher
      @windmacher 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      you so smart @@raschas1234

  • @gaia7350
    @gaia7350 5 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    Feels like the only purpose of this whole league is to sell stash tabs...

    • @sharksquid4415
      @sharksquid4415 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here...

    • @gordonbman2911
      @gordonbman2911 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      True , i have 2 of my 5 "normal" stashes occupied by the fragment crap :S :D

    • @nawawii3750
      @nawawii3750 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly.... because crafting every other kind of item don't need any more space in stash, the worst was betrayal where you needed some open space in inventory for like 4 seconds to take item and unveil it

  • @jamesyue1348
    @jamesyue1348 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    POE's Reddit :" hey synthesis gives very unique and powerful implicit, you shouldn't give up on the league "
    Me: " oh yeah, show me a decent implicit "
    POE's Reddit: " +8 to maximum energy shield "
    Me: " WOW thats very unique and powerful "

    • @raschas1234
      @raschas1234 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have 0 understanding of how mods and stats work in this game mate, I'm sorry.

    • @jamesyue1348
      @jamesyue1348 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@raschas1234 oh really ? with 13k hours invested crafted multiple mirror gears show me an implicit that is worth all the troubles my friend, if i want to craft i might as well stay in standard with tons of resources..

    • @jamesyue1348
      @jamesyue1348 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@raschas1234 oh by the way since you understood the mechanic so well ? why don't you make a video or show a concrete proof to POE community and convince them ? even better show them your powerful craft tell us how you got it. it just not only me who was disgusted by this league I believe majority of people were.

    • @raschas1234
      @raschas1234 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesyue1348 Are you honestly this dumb? So just cause YOU or ME dont get best rolled items in the game its just shit? Zizaran made a 410ES helmet on the second day or league with Synth crafting.
      Since these stats are so bad, tell me how shit is sit to have +5% max life on 5 items? If you dont understand how good these things can be you're just so fucking stupid there is no explaning.. There are plenty of proof, go to PoeDW and check the stats, perma onslaught on boots SO FUCKING BAD.. Jesus...

    • @jamesyue1348
      @jamesyue1348 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@raschas1234 well if you say im dumb is equally saying people who don't like this league are dumb too. Look bro don use others as an example, show me what you have achieved calling other people dumb doesn't make you smart instead it goes to show how immature you are, I have kindly request you to convince us by showing us how you understand this league mechanic and what YOU yourself have crafted. I won't use expletives on you, it just make me lower to your standard.

  • @infinitecrayons
    @infinitecrayons 5 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    Another brilliant video explaining the mechanics. Unfortunately, it's another video that highlights how ridiculous this league is in terms of the casual player.

    • @kevinranders
      @kevinranders 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      agreed. Appreciative of his effort but this just concretes for me that I will primarily ignore nexus "stuff"

    • @keto3883
      @keto3883 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      indeed. however they haven t done something for the no life players in a while. i would say the uberelder was the last and this went pretty soon to a lot more people.

    • @Micras08
      @Micras08 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is coming from a (mostly, have been nolife-ing in some leagues) casual player: I am really happy that PoE knows when to stop catering to casual players. PoE as it was at launch was a tad to crazily skewered away from the casual player, but as it is right now, it's a very approachable game that does not dumb itself to much further down.
      I would hate to see PoE be dumbed down to the point where it might as well be a Blizzard Activision game :(

    • @Noemro
      @Noemro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      PoE isn't for casuals though. Go play D3

    • @mauriciobuitrago7853
      @mauriciobuitrago7853 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, I'm a filthy casual and although I can't really farm hard enough to make the most of the fractured mechanic, I have enjoyed to no end the nexus. Creature density is amazing, mods get really good just by going to dream modifiers and keeping long chains and it provides good amounts of currency and other stuff (also, I play SSF). So, I get your point, but the league is a win in my book, just a bit demanding to really get good results with fractured stuff.

  • @monkeybusiness673
    @monkeybusiness673 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh man, if it weren't for you, I would never figure out most league specifics...in any league since bestiary! Thank you so much. I am currently stuck in low-tier maps, as I'm struggling to get CI working efficently. Hopefully, fracture-crafting will help me with that. I hope you are doing well in the league. Cheers, mate!
    On second thought: It would be really nice if some sort of currency item was introduced that you could spend on one of the fractured items to guarantee that base. A bit like stones of passage, items that could drop in memory fragments and nexus runs, but don't get transferred outside maybe. That would at least allow you to get the desired base more efficiently.

    • @1Caja
      @1Caja 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you're running CI and need ES i recommend running low depth Delves for Dense Fossiles and craft your ES gear. I hit 10k pretty easily that way last league.

  • @Zelit252
    @Zelit252 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been on and off the past couple leagues and your videos and streams have brought me back and I'm having a great time with the bane build, so thanks for the videos on the new Synth league stuff.

  • @ElricTheFullMetal
    @ElricTheFullMetal 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The way you explain these mechanics is so thorough, complete, and amazing. Keep up the good work!

  • @kdas7590
    @kdas7590 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The moment you had to go to poedb in order to understand the league mechanic is the moment where this league mechanic failed its implementation

  • @kimono38
    @kimono38 5 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    so much work for so little benefit. I rather take shaper /elder gloves or unique at this point

    • @raschas1234
      @raschas1234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah +5-8% max life on 3-5 items is absolute no benefit at all, specially if you play something that dont use shaper/elder mods on items..

    • @Icoblablubb
      @Icoblablubb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@raschas1234 are u just a whiteknight at this point? ... so getting 3-5 items with 5-8% max life takes around the same amount of currency when i just craft my own shaper/elder items with dunno lets say warlords mark ring why waste so much currency and time when u can absically make equivalent items with already existing things like shaper/elder baees... btu well go on all your comments are just defending this shit

    • @raschas1234
      @raschas1234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Icoblablubb If I dont need a Warlocks mark ring?? Just because YOU want something dont mean everything else is shit, are you people really this fucking stupid?
      You know there are more than 1 build in this game?
      I never said it was gonna be cheap its fucking high end late game things and it gonna cost a fucking fortune, its not even 1 week into a 3month long league and you allrdy want the best gear? Wtf, go play Diablo you fucking pleb.

    • @LordM4ver
      @LordM4ver 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@raschas1234 D2/D3 are indeed fun games, and probably a good way to spend the rest of the league

    • @raschas1234
      @raschas1234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@LordM4ver aint a tiny bit surpised The people that dislike this enjoy d3 a game where you literally get all gear you need The first Day and is so childfriendly you cant fail, and before you cry, ive been top ladder in d3 so i know its True, d2 is good tho, but nothing compare to poe anymore, just you need more than 50 iq to enjoy it(:

  • @Tibasu
    @Tibasu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    If data-miners didn't exist, I don't know how people would play POE

    • @Tibasu
      @Tibasu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@kukuc96 Has anyone at GGG stated that they design league mechanics knowing people will just data mine all the info before? Because if not, that's some backwards logic you have there.
      Why would you design something complicated knowing a set group of people out there will read your code to figure out how it works, instead of just explaining it in game so everyone has the information? You punish people who don't google constantly, or read reddit pages. Designing a game based around leaving your game for a third-party non connected service makes no sense. Good game mechanics are ones that can be explored within the game itself using information given to the player, not when the information is hidden for only some people to find through other means. If they really wanted people leaving their game to read how things work, they would just add the information to their site like some games do with their lore. Of course, learning lore and learning how a game works are two different things though.
      I'll be happy to see a source for a GGG member saying they design mechanics with this mind set

    • @Tibasu
      @Tibasu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kukuc96 If you think about it, this league isn't difficult to learn without the datamined information, it's just incredibly time consuming since you need to constantly write down what fractured items you get and what comes out of the synthesiser. We already had people learn a lot of the information the datamine confirmed on their own. That's why I wouldn't make a claim about GGG designing leagues with datamining in mind. Especially when datamining doesn't make leagues work, it just let's people play without investing huge amounts of time.

    • @frikabg
      @frikabg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kukuc96 If you need people to data mine your game for info and than make websites in order to give that infor the the player base and than make another site which simulates the possible end results of set mechanics plus the sites you have to use in order to buy/sell receive info about stuff outside of the league... i am sorry but you are failing at making the game. People want to PLAY the game by PLAYING the game not spend huge chunks of time going around on unofficial sites to get set info and to understand what the mechanics are.
      Also if GGG is know that people will data mine the info and break their 'code' so to speak what exactly is the point here? Except wasting players time i mean? To make other people NOT play your game but go somewhere else because your game SUCKS BALLS at explaining what you have to do? Yeah if that isn't bad game design i have no idea what is to be honest.

    • @corynorell3686
      @corynorell3686 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kukuc96 I don't think that's true. GGG just over-engineers game mechanics.

    • @VeryMelonCB
      @VeryMelonCB 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kukuc96 This is the dumbest fucking comment on this video, and if by any chance it happens to have any grains of truth in it I hope this massive flop of a league is going to serve as a wake up call to the idiots at GGG who designed this shit.

  • @karik45678
    @karik45678 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    ya in short sell all synthesis items and go for shaper/elder got it :P

  • @TheThreeDGrasshopper
    @TheThreeDGrasshopper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I appreciate what intelligent contributors do for their community to understand synthesis league... but I like my brain not angry w/ me, dishing out headaches. Enjoying the skills though! One in particular was what was missing in my build last league so YAY ME!

  • @phaZZi6461
    @phaZZi6461 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    damn that calculator was put together quickly! thanks alot

  • @sabbathguy1
    @sabbathguy1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Ziggy, great vid as always! It's becoming increasingly clear to me as a veteran from closed beta days, just with a family and real life commitments, that with my several hours a week playtime, I no longer feel obliged to engage with these convoluted mechanics - I'll just do content that I enjoy and that I can dive right into i.e maps and delves, with the odd incursion perhaps. Everything else is becoming a real chore. Hoping for a mindless kill spree league next! I think the game has enough crafting mechanics now to not have to add any more for a long, long time.

  • @hoRsinator
    @hoRsinator 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    and all that for +16 life :D

    • @MrHuntingClaw
      @MrHuntingClaw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well, having about 10-20 more base ES on something like gloves, boots or a helmet would certainly be much more effective

    • @ezet
      @ezet 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      After you know this, it isn't much of a proble. In essence: collect 2 fractured mod items and at some point attempt to craft. You will hit something nice once in a while

    • @eduardpacek774
      @eduardpacek774 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      if there is person crazy enough to craft +16-20 life on 4 items + lets say you got +200% increased life from gear/skill points = 192 - 240 life for countless hours of trying.
      You have to be mad min/max extremist to go for such thing :D

  • @ILikeGuns1992
    @ILikeGuns1992 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    GGG is like.
    Players: Betrayal is too complex
    GGG: Hole my beer.
    [Introduces Synthesising]

    • @Fifwayte
      @Fifwayte 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you think Betrayal is complex, I have bad news for you tbh

  • @TyphoidBryan
    @TyphoidBryan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty interesting how this all works. Though I am not going to go the route of having to use third-party websites and calculators to maximize potential for my crafting, I appreciate the opportunity. To those who feel Synthesis is a convoluted and confusing system, you may be right, but GGG trusts you are capable enough to understand it. Blizzard would never even bother giving this to Diablo players because their minds would be blown, and the game would be in a much worse state than it is right now. Take it as GGG giving you some harder problems in class while your peers are still struggling with the basics. It is a sign of respect.

  • @ruggedthetrader5577
    @ruggedthetrader5577 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait to actually be able to play this soon, have been rather unlucky with my pc/consoles lately and haven't had a chance to play this league yet. Would be the first league I would have missed in 3-4 years if I can't find a way to.

  • @KaliWaggles
    @KaliWaggles 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started PoE in December and the one thing I still find complicated in this game is crafting. I was managing to understand about 2/3 of it but now GGG have just gone and made it even more complicated and time-heavy. I think I'll just stick to buying the items I need for the mean time. Good video though!

  • @HavokImpulse
    @HavokImpulse 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    With all the effort involved I just don't know why I should care to go to these great lengths for okay items. Thanks for addressing this complaint early in the vid to let us know you are aware, as I believe between you and Mathil GGG will prob adjust the gated mods that are near unobtainable. I mean the only one I'd be interested in is onslaught on boots. I can't even fathom the amount of RNG required to get even close to the threshold needed to roll it.

  • @noodlepoodleoddle
    @noodlepoodleoddle 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for making this public knowledge. Trying to explain how my bases are priced to buyers/sellers had been an absolute nightmare this past week.

  • @bballjosh11
    @bballjosh11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish I had the patience to play with this system. It seems so cool.

  • @EricZhuCoding
    @EricZhuCoding 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The league mechanic is awful, the game needs to explain itself instead of checking the 3rd party website all the time. GGG really need to reduce the complexity of all the league mechanic.

    • @andblom88
      @andblom88 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No... POE should be complex. It isnt D3.

    • @EricZhuCoding
      @EricZhuCoding 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andblom88 Well, poe already has lots of complexity. With every league, there are more and more layers. Options are good, but as a game in whole, it should be self explanatory. Checking the data form and calculating the value are bad ways to introduce the new gear options.

  • @aussies4trump176
    @aussies4trump176 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm a military trained scientist doctor from NASA and I still don't understand this league's mechanics

  • @TheThormond
    @TheThormond 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Still sane, exile?

  • @garrettmckinnon700
    @garrettmckinnon700 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't even realize you could scour fractured items. That alone is going to give me a huge edge.

  • @ucumulbas
    @ucumulbas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    When you need a PHD to understand league mechanics ...

  • @KieronYT
    @KieronYT 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I now fully understand the league mechanics after watching your Nexus video and now this one. Thanks :)

  • @tremonray2483
    @tremonray2483 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The one thing I struggled to understand was the threshold numbers - ty Ziggy.

  • @dogebestest7187
    @dogebestest7187 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool. You guys do that. Have fun. I'm gonna go run some delves or something

  • @samuelfomoadams4612
    @samuelfomoadams4612 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another ZiggyD guide for Synthesis mechanics. Holy crap, Thank you

  • @27565
    @27565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good job figuring all that out sadly for me and it seems a lot of other people this league mechanic is a snoozer. It might be a bit better if we could store like 500 memories instead of just 10 but even then I think I'd still be annoyed trying to maintain the paths. They might still be able to fix this with some good updates but for now I just run past the memories which is sad I really wanted to like this but I just can't right now. lol xD

  • @mrnunez87
    @mrnunez87 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    been waiting for this about time good job

  • @tabreperez
    @tabreperez 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    ZiggyD, you are the man, man.

  • @kaplislemesis4789
    @kaplislemesis4789 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    daaamn boi u done good work, this game is waaay more complicated than it looks.

  • @bearbearmol
    @bearbearmol 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Synthesizing 3 items with 3 Fractured mods each apparently doesn't guarantee a 3 implicit item :(

    • @johnmcarthur5583
      @johnmcarthur5583 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Are you sure you didn't have a hybrid roll??

    • @FliskerX
      @FliskerX 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      NO it frickin does not, I still don't know how to create 3 implicit and I am closing on L96 and I saved all the damn synth items.

    • @kodiakash
      @kodiakash 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnmcarthur5583 Yes I've tested it as well and confirmed it was 3 separate ones.

    • @MegaRyogahibiki
      @MegaRyogahibiki 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wtf. If true this is so lame! And it's a challenge. Hope it's just a bug that gets fixed soon

    • @FliskerX
      @FliskerX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnmcarthur5583 I have to correct myself ! I noticed it yesterday. I was using HYBRID ROLLS, it wasn't 3 implicit on all 3 items. Test non hybrid 2 implicits and got 100% double implicit back with double non hybrid implicit rolls.

  • @itsjustajokejeez
    @itsjustajokejeez 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hell yeah! Just what I needed! Thanks Ziggy!

  • @flatbaby1
    @flatbaby1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    After randomly synthesizing my items, I found this video! I just went through my three stash tabs of synthesis items and found 1 item actually worth keeping. It is unlikely i will find 2 more to add to it, and If i do and it somehow rolls well, i wont be rich enough to craft it anyways. Perandus was a fun league!

  • @PrateepAmon
    @PrateepAmon 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is complicated. Thank you for your effort to make this league understandable.

  • @Tetinha1
    @Tetinha1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Next league when ?

  • @nosliwyelir
    @nosliwyelir 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heyyy I got that tree from the crate too, it's pretty dope

    • @ZiggyDGaming
      @ZiggyDGaming  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      love them trees I based my hideout around them :D

  • @Warsun-Warspike
    @Warsun-Warspike 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work on this Ziggy, thank you!

  • @MrGeati6783
    @MrGeati6783 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude...now i got it. Thanks man!

  • @chillneophite8863
    @chillneophite8863 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the explanation Ziggy. Very helpful.

  • @ukaszszyszkowski1908
    @ukaszszyszkowski1908 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I finally understand how this works! Thank you so much!

  • @bankutsuuzumaki8534
    @bankutsuuzumaki8534 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really good guide, thanks a lot for the desperately needed info my man!

  • @sparkycat6362
    @sparkycat6362 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for all the work you put into this vid and the explanation. Much appreciated

  • @MasterObservato
    @MasterObservato 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Neat. I am still not sure how to utilize this as an SSFer in mid tier maps, but handy information to pick up

  • @hgjf3
    @hgjf3 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow! The Grimwood mystery box has the best decoration for hideout, so the cosmic hideout (shaped) look like silpha lair like in movies AVATAR and SPIDERWICK CHRONICLES.

  • @LiberalsCauseCancer
    @LiberalsCauseCancer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Simply put, this league is not intuitive at all, and the player exodus has already begun unfortunately.

    • @Draukagrissah
      @Draukagrissah 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm really sad that Synthesis is so... Meh. I think the new spells are almost all awesome. The power of Occultist has me playing my first ever CI character (and I literally played in the age of ES pre 2.6,just missed the boat).
      The "board game" gameplay was implemented poorly imo. You can only have eight pieces, unless you use them, BUT using them requires linking manually which can delete older pieces.
      Also the pieces you get are pure RNG. You might need a N+W piece, but only ever get S+E and N+E+S pieces.
      You might not even be able to make use of a N+W+S piece because they arbitrarily decided that you can only place a piece if its paths only lead to other pieces/the void.
      So thanks again to RNG, if an island spawns in the wrong place, it can literally block your ass.
      And as far as the crafting goes, I think the fact that we're on one of Ziggys most comprehensive videos ever, and I don't know about you but this shit's still clear as mud... Makes this part not so good either.

    • @LiberalsCauseCancer
      @LiberalsCauseCancer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Draukagrissah agreed- ziggy has done his best to explain the basics of this league yet it is still confusing AF and the timesink to understand this league isnt worth it- mathil is about to give up too

  • @bibibabibu1
    @bibibabibu1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Wow this league is so convoluted and unintuitive. GGG isn't sure if they're designing a game or a job.

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Math of Exile has always been driven by people writing guides and developing tools on the complex mechanics and more casual players following the guides and using the tools.
      Given that casuals like me can still play the game very reasonably following the guides and just buying the complex crafted items, it’s actually good as it encourages community engagement beyond just grinding more gear.

    • @johnturtle6649
      @johnturtle6649 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ThePesmergia No, what it REALLY is is keep your damn ocd math out of my fun and enjoyable hack n slash game, or you lose my interest and money.

  • @JCApollo
    @JCApollo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    well-explained, thanks Ziggy!

  • @Schnarchnase
    @Schnarchnase 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks, that video helped me out a lot. answered literally all my questions HYPERS

  • @HArryvajonas
    @HArryvajonas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    This game is so far beyond hardcore at this point it is really a joke.

    • @raschas1234
      @raschas1234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah so hardcore, add 3 items get 1/2/3 random mods based on what you add, I think NASA should start recruiting people based on PoE cause it's insane, rocket science is its closest alike.

    • @yoooyoyooo
      @yoooyoyooo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@raschas1234 He thought farming all the items stashing them, then the whole nexus thing .. it is pretty hard to figure it all out ... casual player wont get much of a synt taste. But if you are really hard core crafter and you want that perfect item this league is awesome. So top 10% will enjoy this.

    • @raschas1234
      @raschas1234 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yoooyoyooo You just explained PoE, you don't like PoE why the fuck do you play it, the entire game is stash items rofl. You dont understand this league and PoE is the least of your problems in life honestly, its fucking simple.. if you dont wanna MinMax your char just synth random shit items and get random shit items back like everything else in the game, you want high end good items, go buy what you need and craft what fits you...

    • @Funguspower2
      @Funguspower2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@raschas1234 we get it ratsass, you're so fucking bored and pathetic that you comment the same bullshit on every single comment that goes against what you like to think. Imagine someone not liking the same thing as you.

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If this was required to play the game, yeah, it’d be ridiculous.
      Since it’s a niche thing only needed for vanity items or for people trying to make big money by crafting, it’s depth for people that want depth and easily ignored by everyone else.

  • @Ashtarte3D
    @Ashtarte3D 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is the first league where I just don't feel compelled to engage with the mechanics. Even Beastiary which wasn't a very good league had me trying to engage with the mechanics despite them being a bit of a clusterfuck; but Cavas I just ran pass 90% of the time because until you're in red tiers he's worthless and so far working up a large chain of memory mods has done nothing but waste my time.

    • @frikabg
      @frikabg 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I totally agree. Also the majority of those memory modifiers are so fucking shit its hard to bear. +1% chance for a currency shard when you kill a monster' I am getting what 1-2 shards when i clear a full level. 1-2 shards of garbage on top of that... yeah thanks that really feels rewarding for all the parts i had to collect and all the extra content i had to do in order to get that enchant. Even when i get mods like 20% chance of drop for veil items from synthesis monsters' its still crap! I get 1-2 items per level cleared... the mods are GARBAGE! I can literally get bigger rewards if i simply go and farm maps.

  • @slindimasq
    @slindimasq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This league ends end of March 2019

  • @jirifuschlberger5513
    @jirifuschlberger5513 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with many others saying this is pretty hard to understand only with self found rare items. This league would be 100% more better if GGG add to trailer (launch video or so) example like this. Not revealing all tiers, but make good enough example so players could understand it without looking at two different website, reddit, forum and most importantly, watch Ziggyd guide :)

  • @seacucumberable
    @seacucumberable 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy fuck the new visuals are triiiippy

  • @varazir
    @varazir 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, great video on crafting and map system.

  • @clamiraclegaming2412
    @clamiraclegaming2412 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really helpful guide, thanks man!

  • @Kostchei
    @Kostchei 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video, i was about to give up on this^^.
    Since there are so many mods I'd be really helpful if there would be a place that collects the best / most useful implict mods for common archetyps.

  • @gelm1r
    @gelm1r 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    so true with the comments the mechanics are ridiculous in PoE, for a casual players it's impossible to understand and are forced to follow a ''class'' wow hope GGG will do something about that for future leagues, good and thanks for your explanation ziggy

  • @niuage
    @niuage 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your HO is badass, gonna buy some more of these boxes I think...

  • @IzzuThug
    @IzzuThug 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super helpful video, thank you so much!

  • @nebucadneza1914
    @nebucadneza1914 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish there would be for once a passive progression league. You have a village and mobs randomly drop supplies like wood metal and stuff you automaticly collect by walking over it.
    This way you can start to build up your village and unlock different stuff by doing what floats your boat.
    10/10 league for filthy casuals that dont want to study poe science after a hard day of work

  • @IWannaPeonU
    @IWannaPeonU 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Your video was extremely helpful and so was your other on memory atlas mechanics. That being said, this video is the nail in the coffin for me - I'm quitting this league.
    The amount of additional resources and spreadsheets required getting utterly insane. It was more manageable in previous leagues and players felt more motivated because the rewards were there to be had and not nearly as gated behind RNG(delve and betrayal).
    This shit, this shit here... I am wondering wtf I am doing with my free time. I don't want to have to study so hard for a chance at rewards when this is supposed to be a leisure activity I enjoy in my spare time.
    That doesn't even go into all the time and effort required to actually plan your nexus, acquire proper fragments and then you have to execute 100 percent perfectly to potentially have more access to the absolute garbage RNG shit fest the synthesis crafting mechanic in this league is. Not to mention you can execute your memory route perfectly and get screwed by random reward node spawns are bullshit decay spawns completely out of your own control. Naw I'm good, this literally just made me really do some thinking and I've realized this isn't how I want to spend my free time.
    Best of luck to those that ride this league out, I hope it gets better and I good future leagues are more polished and ultimately "fun"
    I realize there are tons of players that enjoy these insane levels of complexity, research, planning and calculation etc and more power to you guys. I'm glad you are enjoying this. But I think I might be part of a growing majority that is getting really frustrated and doesn't want to spend hours researching how to play the game and to be actually able to just play it.
    Thanks again as always for the quality guides Ziggy. I really hope GGG is able to hit the mark on the next league.
    I can't sustain maps, I can't run delve to sustain maps because it's gated behind RNG. I am literally unable to accomplish any end game goals this league(in any reasonable time frame). And I've played an average of 5 hours a day since release and am lvl 92.
    Very frustrating :( I'd love to try and delve really deep or at least have some end game goal I'm working towards.
    Right now it feels like trying to break out of a jail cell with a spoon and can only dig once a night. Except you have 5 separate spots you can dig and you don't get to choose, they're predetermined for you every night completely based on RNG.
    Best of luck everyone. See you in 3.7.

    • @ZiggyDGaming
      @ZiggyDGaming  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the well written thoughts, totally take a break and see if the next league nails it for you! No need to push something you aren't going to enjoy!

  • @benjaminduber5821
    @benjaminduber5821 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Ziggy, once more! u did great professor :)

  • @gubzs
    @gubzs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I used THREE triple-fractured boots and didn't get a three-implicit item back. I have no idea how it works.

    • @DiegoSilva-wk4ct
      @DiegoSilva-wk4ct 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe thats a bug, too many bugs this league

    • @bearbearmol
      @bearbearmol 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same thing just happened to me gadaammit

    • @the777john
      @the777john 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you sure they were all triple fractured and not a hybrid mod stuck in there? A hybrid looks like 3 but counts as 2.

    • @gubzs
      @gubzs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@the777john They were triple. I paid a lot of chaos for 3 boots with move speed, max life, and max mana as fractured mods. Ended up with a 2 implicit movespeed and life boot.

    • @calipoxcalipso
      @calipoxcalipso 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gubzs maybe the only way to obtain a triple implicit is a specific afflix threshold, like the triple cold implicit on gloves (inc dmg / CoH frostbite / phys to cold convertion)

  • @kevinleugan6037
    @kevinleugan6037 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    10% life as an implicit sounds like a really damn broken mirror-tier item potentially but wtf this league and it's crafting is WAY too complicated and it's way too hard to get the best stuff. Only astronomical whales or insanely lucky people will ever see those top end implicits. Most of us will probably only see the bottom two tier implicits if at all. And it takes so much micomanagement to even have a chance of getting something useful out of this ...

  • @cnh182
    @cnh182 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @VeryMelonCB
    @VeryMelonCB 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The community needs to stop doing the devs' jobs for them (and they do it for free)
    Item filters
    PoB
    Trading
    Item database with affix information etc.
    All of that is what led to this league.

  • @reaton3289
    @reaton3289 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the vid im gonna check it out now

  • @gorekz.h5834
    @gorekz.h5834 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I synthetized betrayal with synthesis League and i had a blackhole.

  • @yovalord
    @yovalord 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    But at the end of the day, the item that took 15 minutes to carefully craft, ended up being about as good as if you just tossed random items in. This league.

  • @panosm8630
    @panosm8630 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    They might as well call this the ziggyD league...saving ggg left and right

  • @jesuscordova3235
    @jesuscordova3235 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the explanaiton i haven't had tons of time this league because of work :,(... Just woke up 6:00 am to play 1:30 before leaving :(

  • @Castleology
    @Castleology 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    This is just.....beyond silly and so heavily RNG gated, on top of that, there are no strong implicits what-so-ever, that would warrant the time to invest into doing crafting like this. Giant waste of time.
    The whole league is just "Extra mobs in your maps-League"

    • @MrCaptainFlash
      @MrCaptainFlash 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No strong implicits? Look you can say a lot about this league but these implicits are insane. You can get 1000es chest, curses for free, 40% movement speed boots with onslaught... I don't know what mods you've been looking at but there is insane potential for items this league

    • @raschas1234
      @raschas1234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nothing at all indeed, who would want like 5-8% max life on 5 items wtf, or perma onslaught on boots and or just 30% flat move speed more, so bad its insane, also you get mods based on what mods you add its so fucking RNG right.. add 3 synth mods with life and you get life, how can they make this RNG shit?
      Are you really this dumb or are you genuinly trying to be stupid?

    • @kaanmalcok279
      @kaanmalcok279 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MrCaptainFlash only %0,001 of the playerbase woudl actually be able to craft those, synthesis irrevelant to more than %99 of the playerbase, great design ggg!

    • @MrCaptainFlash
      @MrCaptainFlash 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kaanmalcok279 If you are choosing to be ignorant go ahead. Sure thebtop tier mods are difficult to get but even the middle tiers are great. Unless you don't want 5% life or 20 flat on every item. This mechanic takes investment but saying it's irrelevant is horribly wrong, YOU are choosing to ignore it.

    • @raschas1234
      @raschas1234 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kaanmalcok279 So because you're shit and can't craft the rest of us should suffer? Why don't you go ahead and learn to do shit instead and be the 0,001% you claim? WEE I CANT GET IT ITS BAD WEE I WANT HANDOUTS WEE

  • @Rich4live
    @Rich4live 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This league mechanic doesn't feel intuitive and to complex for my personal taste 🙊.

  • @joeSCHMOEwithTheo
    @joeSCHMOEwithTheo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The problem I see with this is that there is no need at all for it. The power creep in PoE has reached the point where investing 2-3 ex with the right build (looking at you trickster/occultist) is enough to speed clear all content in the game and reach 1m+ shaper dps. An extra 8% life? frostbite on hit? who the fuck cares, I'm already one shotting all the t16 packs and the rare times I do uber elder I'm focused on just killing him, it doesn't matter if I kill him in 1 minute vs killing him in 5 minutes.

  • @Demon1z
    @Demon1z 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    A league which doesn't just include braindead killing monsters and not worrying about where you move or having to think at all and people say it's a bad league. I for one welcome them trying more complex mechanics for people who want to do more than just grind easily.

    • @Ca11mero
      @Ca11mero 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think it's just too much work to get it going, if you aren't buying the items it will take a whole league to get a T1 implicit. And that's just the base, now you have to get extremely lucky and be wealthy enough to craft it better than something you can buy for 10c. I like complexity but not when it's convoluted just for the sake of it... Another issue that we have had in betrayal and in bestiary was that for like 19 out of 20 people it was a better option to sell their "progress"/reward rather than interact with it since people who were using in a smart way made the prices sky rocket. I bet this league will turn out the exact same way.

  • @ajparker7575
    @ajparker7575 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So wait, if you wanted a good MoM RF chest, finding as many chests with "avoid fire damage when hit"? Saying that because you can potentially get maximum fire resist from it, and that still hard to get to that 90% absolute cap.

    • @ZiggyDGaming
      @ZiggyDGaming  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      3 deafining essences of anguish will get you there, but unless you want to annul you'll have a bunch of other mods it can choose from and it may be hard to actually land the one you want

  • @jojojanaidio4390
    @jojojanaidio4390 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That hideout👌

  • @matthewdimalanta1700
    @matthewdimalanta1700 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for the help

  • @jaytime104
    @jaytime104 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I subbed agin becuse u started making poe content agin.

  • @WanderingTurtle.
    @WanderingTurtle. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there an easy way of searching for items with multiple fractured mods?

  • @emanmodnar2
    @emanmodnar2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    No wonder my guild was mad at me for filling the vault with single implicit items. Time to go take inventory.

  • @curo.
    @curo. 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome guide, helps me understand the mechanic well. I'm a new player, and there's a very glaring thing that I'm sure I'm missing information on. You've taken some gloves with 71 life and then and turned them into gloves with 16 life. How is this good? Does it have something to do with crafting changing the values of the mods? I don't know how that works, and why it would be any different with a synthesized item. You already had an item that gave life and mana, so why not just work with that? If anyone can recommend a good crafting guide video that explains this stuff, I'd love to learn.

  • @nikolabarisic4977
    @nikolabarisic4977 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My boy Ziggy always got me covered

  • @wenjizeng89
    @wenjizeng89 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    ZiggyD, PhD in League Mechanics.

  • @_P_2_D_2_
    @_P_2_D_2_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    after all this what im left with is that its not worth it.

  • @chrischeng254
    @chrischeng254 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How much loot does one have to keep/sort to be able to get a good result? Add on the fact that GGG doesn't explain any of the underlying mechanics. The result is that you get a good system for GGG to make money on stash tab purchases.

  • @zandiskoul
    @zandiskoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didnt get to play during this league. Cool mechanics.

  • @Diego92Souza
    @Diego92Souza 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Jesus christ.... that's gonna be a yikes from me dawg... lmao

    • @GandalfTheSilver
      @GandalfTheSilver 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From basically any rational person. Too much tedious bs.

  • @yeah5874
    @yeah5874 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks friendly man from Down Under

  • @newops6757
    @newops6757 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Higher level I believe. Not sure if all 3 items are same leave or if my stats are just off but it appears it higher level takes priority

  • @DarkParadeHF
    @DarkParadeHF 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thats good to know stuffs :D glad its not all random

    • @sybrwookie
      @sybrwookie 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh it's random as fuck. You can just sway the odds a bit in your favor, but at the end of the day you have SO many levels of randomness:
      1) What fractured implicits drop
      2) What bases they drop on
      3) How many implicits are on the items which drop
      4) What ilvl the items are
      (obviously, you can buy ones with the right implicits, but that gets costly, fast)
      5) Even if you guarantee almost all of that, if you have 1 random mod you can't quite do away with....you see in this video what can quite easily happen. 6/7 mods are correct. If it randoms the item pick (33% chance of the wrong item picked) then picks 2 mods off of that item (33% chance of the wrong mod picked on the first pick, then 50% chance on the second pick), you're looking at about a 26% chance of it picking the wrong mod (33% * 33% + 33% * 50%). That's after taking almost as much randomness out of it as possible, and the odds are STILL that bad.
      So you either spend a shitton of currency to get the exact items you (and everyone else) want, get stupid lucky, or even if you're a hair off of perfect, you have shit odds. The definition of random as fuck.