Do EXPENSIVE Ingredients make better Holiday Cookies?

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  • RECIPE:
    Ingredients
    1 cup granulated sugar
    3/4 cup unsalted butter
    1 large egg
    3 Tbsp molasses
    2 cups flour, sifted
    1 tsp baking soda
    1 1/2 tsp ground ginger
    1 tsp cinnamon
    1/2 tsp each salt, ground cloves, freshly ground nutmeg.
    Preheat oven to 350 F or 175 C.
    Mix ingredients
    Break off walnut sized pieces of dough and roll into balls.
    Roll balls in granulated sugar
    Bake 10 minutes
    GLAZE:
    1 cup powdered sugar
    1 tsp lemon juice
    1 Tbsp water
    Drizzle glaze over baked cookies
    Makes around 30 cookies.
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  • @NickolasBrungardt
    @NickolasBrungardt ปีที่แล้ว +140

    I would do a test that has the same ingredients and quality and just let the taste testers assume there is a difference to see if people's minds and tastebuds can assume a quality difference or not.

    • @keithschrack
      @keithschrack ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I like the way you think!

    • @ShintogaDeathAngel
      @ShintogaDeathAngel ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I wouldn’t be surprised if they did perceive a difference that wasn’t there. I’ve seen an experiment on tv before, where they told testers that one milkshake was cheap, the other luxury, and the testers preferred the “luxury” one - even though there wasn’t actually any difference.

    • @EvilOttoJrProductions
      @EvilOttoJrProductions ปีที่แล้ว +11

      This is a really fun idea, I hope Nate tries it! It could be like an April Fool's episode!

    • @justinsalazar7182
      @justinsalazar7182 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EvilOttoJrProductions my thoughts exactly!!!

    • @timderks5960
      @timderks5960 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To add to that: I'd suggest 2 tests. The first time you don't tell them anything, just 2 batches, see what the testers assume. Second time you tell them there is a cheap and a brand one, see if more people can taste a difference, since now they feel like there should be a difference.

  • @wandlbaker
    @wandlbaker ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I have really been liking this series. I am a baker and love to cook. What I have found is that if you like it use it. Try some bread (whole wheat, white, etc) That will limit it to the salt, flour and egg for any difference really.

  • @ExperimentsOfThought
    @ExperimentsOfThought ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I misread the card…. Thought Nate was asking if explosive ingredients were better and thought TKOR craziness for Christmas lol

    • @essaboselin5252
      @essaboselin5252 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now that would be a perfect episode to have Callie back again! Nate, you have a whole year to plan this out now.

  • @CrowzenOver
    @CrowzenOver ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I would love to see you try some sort of chocolate fudge (or brownie), potentially a very simple fudge recipe to see how stark the difference is with more expensive ingredients, but a complex recipe would also be excellent. Loved this video!

    • @Mittzie
      @Mittzie ปีที่แล้ว

      Legit the 2-3 ingredient chocolate fudge would be a great one to test this with!

  • @Hasmanian
    @Hasmanian ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was a really interesting result since I also thought the expensive spices would make a difference.
    I'd love to see more savory experiments, like chilli or lasagna, in the brands vs basics playlist.

  • @PhilthyCasualMedia
    @PhilthyCasualMedia ปีที่แล้ว

    I tried this recipe and it was AWESOME! I didn't bother with the glaze and they were still the best cookies I've ever had

  • @nikolehiggins2693
    @nikolehiggins2693 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for all the bakes!

  • @sarahb9240
    @sarahb9240 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the recipe! They look yummy!

  • @tildessmoo
    @tildessmoo ปีที่แล้ว +39

    You were only missing baking soda, not baking powder. Baking powder has a mix of acid and base to produce gas for leavening, but baking soda on its own is usually added to adjust the pH, which for baked goods tends to have an effect on the texture and browning.

    • @Ordolph
      @Ordolph ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's false, baking soda provides leavening, just later in the cooking process than baking powder. Baking soda decomposes into CO2 when it's heated, not just when you mix it with acid.

    • @tildessmoo
      @tildessmoo ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Ordolph Fine, so it produces much less leavening and is almost entirely used to raise pH, because the decomposition reaction produces half as much CO2 as the neutralization reaction, and one of the decomposition products is sodium carbonate, which is still a base. Excuse me for talking about the main mechanism behind the difference between Nate's expectations and reality in a simplified way so I don't have to explain the complex relationships between a dozen or so chemical reactions occurring in a cookie as it bakes. 🙄 Does that mean you want me to point out that sodium bicarbonate doesn't actually decompose into carbon dioxide at 80°C, but into carbon dioxide, sodium carbonate, and water?
      If you meant to make a gentle correction and this seems like an overly aggressive reply, try not starting your comment with something as openly confrontational as "this is false." It may be false in the boolean sense, but in the real world it's what we call a simplification, which generally only needs correcting if someone requests more detail. From one overly-pedantic asshole to another, learn to tell the difference between simplified and incorrect (and, yes, the difference is often subtle context, it takes some practice) and you'll be both happier and more well-liked. And I'm not just talking about the internet.

    • @benjaelee
      @benjaelee ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tildessmoo bro wrote a whole lab report on why the other dude was wrong 💀

    • @tildessmoo
      @tildessmoo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benjaelee Nah, just on why correcting me the way they did was wrong. If they'd just said something like, "actually, there is still some leavening from baking soda breaking down when heated," I'd've just liked their comment or maybe replied with something, "yes, I was oversimplifying, but you're absolutely correct." I know it's hard to read tone in a comment, but the wording seemed too rude to go uncommented, and I even said why I thought that in case I was misinterpreting.

    • @UtopssAKAPJ
      @UtopssAKAPJ ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought baking soda and baking powder were the same thing
      probably because I don't use them

  • @umbrellacorp.
    @umbrellacorp. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Nate. 🎄🎁🎉

  • @TTL47
    @TTL47 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My boyfriend and I had an idea over Christmas. Do a Gluten Free and/or Dairy Free vs regular version. I know some good products for sweet or savory that I don't think they could tell if you are interested. Thanks for this series! It is great!

  • @robylove9190
    @robylove9190 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy holidays, Nate.

  • @ajf6791
    @ajf6791 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Keep up the amazing work and Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones

    • @NFTI
      @NFTI  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wow, thank you! Merry Christmas to you too!

  • @jesterj63
    @jesterj63 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Nate, made them today, they're pretty good!

  • @lanticocean
    @lanticocean ปีที่แล้ว

    Merry Christmas Nate 🎄

  • @Sa1985Mr
    @Sa1985Mr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always happy to see you post. Merry Christmas. On the nutmeg front - always find it interesting those incredibly intense spices - unless you're mainlining nutmeg by the time you've used pre-ground nutmeg it up it will be stale as hell but whole nutmeg will retain flavour for many years.

  • @Fuck_YT
    @Fuck_YT ปีที่แล้ว

    great video as always, merry Christmas nate

  • @KaaSerpent
    @KaaSerpent ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've seen cooking channels use an OILED measuring spoon to measure things like honey and molasses because it slips right out of the spoon with no waste. You might try that. :)

  • @DirtmopAZ
    @DirtmopAZ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have such an eclectic group of friends

  • @ExperimentsOfThought
    @ExperimentsOfThought ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Next test: expired spices vs fresh spices

  • @TheRealCobra1117
    @TheRealCobra1117 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nate: Best way I've found to measure molasses is a plunger-style adjustable measuring cup. (I think Oxo makes one, but I'm sure there's others.) This also works well for honey, corn syrup, etc. Try searching for "Oxo adjustable measuring cup".

  • @JohnSmith-ox7xc
    @JohnSmith-ox7xc ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Haven't checked to see what brands you used for this recipe for the more expensive side, and those that you used for the pumpkin pie, but if the same spices were used but from different brands it's possible the mid-range stuff is better flavor wise than the higher end range. More expensive doesn't necessarily equate to being definitely better tasting.

    • @gretl01
      @gretl01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ooh, yeah - repeat both tests with McCormick vs. Spice Hunter!

  • @eskadrille
    @eskadrille ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos, keep up the good work 🐱

  • @brookee2019
    @brookee2019 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’d love to see a brand vs basic for EQUIPMENT. Like make the same exact chocolate chip cookies, but one with a wooden spoon/fork and the other with a kitchen aid/cookie scoop

  • @suspiciousllama385
    @suspiciousllama385 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Merry Christmas from Texas y'all

  • @Nyasziah
    @Nyasziah ปีที่แล้ว

    This has quickly become one of my fav series to watch... I also thought the spices would make a significant difference. The results of these taste tests are always interesting. 🤔🙃

  • @matthewtarvin3675
    @matthewtarvin3675 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Early gang. Happy holidays, Nate!

  • @Goddywap
    @Goddywap ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these videos

  • @huuua2
    @huuua2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Merry Christmas!

  • @tomroeder7348
    @tomroeder7348 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice

  • @drawnfromflames7007
    @drawnfromflames7007 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do enjoy the tests with cheapest and most expensive, so much better to see a bigger diffrence if there would be one

  • @cubbycreates
    @cubbycreates ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome Video

  • @colinteckam
    @colinteckam ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m not sure if anyone has said this yet, but, if you put the cookie dough in the fridge for maybe 10 minutes before baking, the cookies might have risen a little more because of the butter and fats cooling down and solidifying again. But as always I love watching these no matter what

  • @PurpleBox89
    @PurpleBox89 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, when a recipe slaps, it slaps hard regardless of ingredients, I suppose. Merry Christmas, Nate!

  • @stephgilliam
    @stephgilliam ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great video, but a quick note that might help you the next time you make these: use an ice cream scoop to portion out the little cookie dough balls. It's a lot easier to get the dough out than squishing it out of a measuring spoon.

  • @lip-filler-looks-rank
    @lip-filler-looks-rank ปีที่แล้ว

    merry christams bro.. merry christams to calli too if she is watching.

  • @ajf6791
    @ajf6791 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are my favorite videos ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

  • @UKGtrotter2k
    @UKGtrotter2k ปีที่แล้ว

    Molasses is basically the same when it gets pumped out of a tanker and when they steam clean the tanks on ships the excess molasses is then used in BBQ brickets.

  • @joellewatkins5528
    @joellewatkins5528 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love a good ginger cookie. One thing I will say is they have a huge feast different as they age. So the one you baked may have had an advantage.

  • @keeperofthegood
    @keeperofthegood ปีที่แล้ว

    Nate, I may have suggested this before, odds are good I did, but there is more to sugar than just sugar. From processed white, to processed dark brown, from "in the raw" to demerara (same but different), and then there are agar, palm, jaggary etc sugars. And that's the sugar. Then you can also get many more types of molasses than just fancy or dog food (black strap), there are fluid sweet molasses like Egyptian to savory thick dark like Treacle.

  • @nikkiewhite476
    @nikkiewhite476 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Spices are finicky, basic or brand there most important thing is how old it is. The older they are the less flavor you get. The best think to do is get whole spices and grind them in an electric coffee grinder. The fresher the whole spices means more flavor and the less it will lose sitting in your cupboard.
    Nate an awesome trick for molasses, honey, peanut butter or any other sticky ingredient: Grease your measuring spoon/cup with the same fat in the recipe or a spray oil. Once you go to dump it out it will just slide right out!

  • @alexanderdumas123
    @alexanderdumas123 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you ever want to do a savory 'Cheap v. Expensive'/'Brand v. Basic' might I suggest; French Canadian tourtière, a meat pie that is usually served on Christmas Eve.

  • @canihelpyou4206
    @canihelpyou4206 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cookie dough without baking soda/powder can be rolled and dipped in pancake batter for deep frying if you ever forget it or don't have it

  • @Pxsdaemon
    @Pxsdaemon ปีที่แล้ว

    Great recipe! Very similar to my Gingersnap recipe (minus allspice, vanilla, and a couple other things)Recommend doing a blind vote on scratch paper with your friends before the crowd vote as people tend to unintentionally influence one another.

  • @lettersnstuff
    @lettersnstuff ปีที่แล้ว

    the reason the half teaspoon of baking soda makes such a big difference in color is because the Maillard reaction is impacted by ph level. bases accelerate the reaction while acids slow it down

  • @fomfom9779
    @fomfom9779 ปีที่แล้ว

    The heat from baking drives off a lot of the oils/flavor of many spices. That includes vanilla. The differences between lower and higher priced spices likely would be more apparent in recipes where little heat is involved. Like ice cream.

  • @creepycreepersthekingofcre3379
    @creepycreepersthekingofcre3379 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I had a custom knife that you make I think there all cool

  • @clueyman4720
    @clueyman4720 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do a pot pie sometime. That'd be cool

  • @heatherastbury4339
    @heatherastbury4339 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you

  • @electricsoldier1
    @electricsoldier1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yay

  • @kevinolive
    @kevinolive ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you want the ginger to really pop, use fresh ginger instead of ground

  • @jfresh2054
    @jfresh2054 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just want to let you know that you are amazing

  • @Sam-nc9zp
    @Sam-nc9zp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:07 you spray the measuring utensil with baking spray of some sort and then you measure it, you can also do it with anything else you want to measure thats sticky, honey, for instance

  • @curtischase6904
    @curtischase6904 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have seen that in many recipes, beef tallow can be used in place of butter, 1:1 ratio. You should try making a cake, cookies, brownies or something but use beef tallow instead of butter/shortening. And it may be worth doing 3 batches instead of just 2. So you can do one with butter, one with shortening, and one with tallow, as shortening can be used in place of butter usually.

  • @TonyDYT
    @TonyDYT ปีที่แล้ว

    Try an expensive tools vs basic, like all clad pan vs cheapo Walmart, dollar store spatula vs some other high end, your knives vs kiwi. See if they make the job easier and faster, or able to last longer, and if the recipes taste better.

  • @readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444
    @readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try buttermilk biscuits soon!

  • @Arob4343
    @Arob4343 ปีที่แล้ว

    Biscuits and gravy OR/AND chicken and dumplings
    I’d like to see both recipes

  • @UtahSustainGardening
    @UtahSustainGardening ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Grandma's and Brer Rabbit are owned by the same company and as near as I can tell are the exact same molasses.

  • @brad885
    @brad885 ปีที่แล้ว

    daughter and I make a lot of cookies. cheap ingredients other than the butter and the chocolate chips/frosting. we're also using home grown eggs. flour, salt, and baking powder/soda should be identical across the board.

  • @randygreene5977
    @randygreene5977 ปีที่แล้ว

    With spices it is not how much they cost but how fresh they are. I get mine at the spice house. What you get in the store you dont know how old they are.

  • @vcandrewsfan12
    @vcandrewsfan12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try a brand vs basic curry chicken or curry dish. I would love a comparison between the difference in cost between the spices in a spice heavy dish.

  • @noneyabidness9644
    @noneyabidness9644 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's probably been 3 years since I've had a cookie...I can't have sugar. This is making me hungry.

  • @Zatbag88
    @Zatbag88 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nate's three step cooking show.
    Step 1: gather ingredients
    Step 2: mix
    Step 3: add fire

  • @SaucedTech
    @SaucedTech ปีที่แล้ว

    Pasta sauce next! Use Walmart canned vs Cento!

  • @hobbitguy1420
    @hobbitguy1420 ปีที่แล้ว

    another recipe test recommendation: buy a bunch of whole spices, make the recipe with all freshly-ground (like with a coffee grinder) spices vs. all pre-ground.

  • @Flyingcar100
    @Flyingcar100 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should make some breakfast foods

  • @Lucifurion
    @Lucifurion ปีที่แล้ว

    To measure anything like molasses or honey get yourself some metal measuring spoons and a cup of boiling hot water. Soak your spoon in the boiling hot water & then measure your molasses or honey as quickly as possible, do not dry the spoon first. If you've done it right it should just slide right out of the spoon leaving minimal residue.

  • @h7opolo
    @h7opolo ปีที่แล้ว

    5:59 another difference is that Ceylon cinnamon doesn't have the neurotoxic compound in it that Saigon cinnamon does.

  • @micromeshgritsystem
    @micromeshgritsystem ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that what it means when it asks for sifted flower? I always measure out 2 cups then sift it on the way into the bowl

  • @carolynwallace458
    @carolynwallace458 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do a most recognizable brand pumpkin pie vs the most expensive pumpkin pie and see if that changes the outcome

  • @dauntlessmmm4954
    @dauntlessmmm4954 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Try Costco spices next! They are the best, I won’t use anyone else’s Vanilla extract!

  • @katrinarose2210
    @katrinarose2210 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah yes more cookies

  • @justina.6769
    @justina.6769 ปีที่แล้ว

    Make some Ginger Snaps!

  • @blackmagehedonist
    @blackmagehedonist ปีที่แล้ว

    Organic vs Conventional ingredients of same/similar quality could be interesting. I personally think the organic items taste better, but I am curious if others would agree or disagree with my observation.

  • @bvoyelr
    @bvoyelr ปีที่แล้ว

    Title: "Holiday cookies"
    First 5 seconds of the video: "Christmas cookies"

  • @rickydona919
    @rickydona919 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:08 Harvey Whippleman siting

  • @mcdudette
    @mcdudette ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do a cheap vs expensive 5 course dinner.

  • @geizzlyandro
    @geizzlyandro ปีที่แล้ว

    I know it sounds like there will be no difference, But what about ready mixed box cake ( Betty Crocker, Duncan Hines, Pillsbury ) or one I can't think of with cheap and brand oil and water
    I love this compare stuff

  • @underourrock
    @underourrock ปีที่แล้ว

    You can mix baking soda into the dough. Still a good idea to remake the batch but you could have recovered the whole first batch as well.

  • @lakovkreativity1451
    @lakovkreativity1451 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ay nate, you might need to make a whole separate baking channel 🤣

  • @capitalhillproductions9790
    @capitalhillproductions9790 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think for the more "expensive" i would use a European butter for the higher fat content...i would have used whole cloves and whole cinnamon and warmed them up to release it's oils and then ground them and use fresh grated ginger.

  • @TheRealAlpha2
    @TheRealAlpha2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As someone with a complicated history with sugar I'm curious about recipes using sugar substitutes like monk fruit or coconut sugar and whether they're as good as the real thing.

  • @andrewcopple7075
    @andrewcopple7075 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think there's value in understanding that the spices are far more important in the pumpkin pie than in these cookies.

  • @SeinFreak
    @SeinFreak ปีที่แล้ว

    I made a chocolate cheesecake recently, and sprung for the pricier ingredients for the cream cheese, chocolate, and real vanilla extract. It turned out great, but now I'm thinking it may not have been worth it lol

  • @brianhbinesh
    @brianhbinesh ปีที่แล้ว +4

    More expensive doesn't mean more better lol

  • @TheWeltandmelt
    @TheWeltandmelt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe try multiple recipes of the same thing and compare them against each other, like 2 different recipes of chocolate chip cookies for example.

  • @Aberrful
    @Aberrful ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd be interested to see a breakdown of single ingredients. Like for example pick a recipe that highlights cinnamon and then do three identical batches that use Cheap Brand, Common/well known Brand, and Expensive Brand.

  • @joshbenoit2859
    @joshbenoit2859 ปีที่แล้ว

    Expensive ice cream sundaes!

  • @ShadedOne_
    @ShadedOne_ ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to see an experiment comparing brown sugar to white sugar plus molasses. Brown sugar is basically sugar with molasses in it so does it make a difference in the recipe if you use white sugar and add molasses to it or get the brown sugar straight from the store?

  • @clementinefillianore715
    @clementinefillianore715 ปีที่แล้ว

    a tip, when it comes to spices, fancy = as fresh as possible and you make it yourself, mix it yourself.
    not a week, not a month, if its dry spice, freshly dried would be best. BUT it depends of what type of dry spice, cinammon would have longer shelf life compared to most dry spice, toast it crush it with mortal and pastel use that for you cookies, its just incomparable to store bought famous brands nor some spice put into a plastic container slap it for display at a supermarket., there should be some store that sells spices and its a specialty.
    if you have to buy brands, oversea brand are your best bet, you don't make the best chili oil by using U.S chili flake sold in a supermarket, no you buy them from china or korea, or buy dried chilli, and process them into chili flake yourself and use that as a base for your chili oil. Point is, source is what matter not brand when it comes to spices.

  • @eyesofnova
    @eyesofnova ปีที่แล้ว

    Try whole spices vs cheap spices next. I've heard anecdotally that whole spices taste better.

  • @Vejgaard
    @Vejgaard ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanna see you make risotto as I believe there will be a huge difference caused by both cheese and white wine.

  • @Dtr146
    @Dtr146 ปีที่แล้ว

    I honestly think that this series should stick to brand versus generic. Every time he's used the more commonly well-known brands he's had a much more drastic result.

  • @MazzyJC
    @MazzyJC ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you use cassia in one and Cinnamon in the other one. I don't remember you saying how much they cost. Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄 Nate

  • @austinrobinson0814
    @austinrobinson0814 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dippin' Sticks

  • @stephaniehnotme
    @stephaniehnotme ปีที่แล้ว

    When sifting flour you measure your compacted amount, then sift into your bowl.

    • @michaelq4965
      @michaelq4965 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is my belief that generally recipes will say Sifted Flour or Flour, Sifted to denote if you should sift before or after measuring.

  • @The_Razielim
    @The_Razielim ปีที่แล้ว

    makes sense that you'd associate cloves with pickle juice, since most "standard" pickling spice blends have cloves in them.

  • @bobair2
    @bobair2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi,Nate those blue bowls you were using what brand are they where can you get them? I ask because they remind somewhat of the kind my grandmother used to use, A good video and since the difference in the cookies is minor I would go the less expensive route ! Merry Christmas and do not go overbroad with sweet treats!

    • @NFTI
      @NFTI  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pretty sure I got the whole set at Walmart.

  • @KidaKuro
    @KidaKuro ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello I like cookies!

    • @urbanrang3r
      @urbanrang3r ปีที่แล้ว

      I like cookies too

    • @KidaKuro
      @KidaKuro ปีที่แล้ว

      @@urbanrang3r haha. You think you're funny ( ̄^ ̄)

  • @ProfSaxby
    @ProfSaxby ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, could you leave those spices on your shelf for six or twelve months? Maybe the expensive ones will last longer and still taste spicy..