Glad to see this kind of video : splendid figures, beautiful painting and flags, interesting period, informative historical background, and great technique for the bases...What's not to like here?😍😍😍
Weirdly enough, I often like the sketches that Turner produces for WOTR rather than the fully finished pieces. Recreating a scene in miniature is always great fun, and nicely done here. Top work!
Another great idea for a project which adds another level of interest. Found the history of the battle fascinating - its not as widely covered as the larger battles. Love watching your videos.
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@Knox Benjamin Thanks for your reply. I got to the site through google and Im in the hacking process now. I see it takes quite some time so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
Excellent video. Love your enthusiasm for the period- it's an ongoing project of mine. I've the 'Archers' print in the mancave- love Turner's work on the WOTR.
Excellent video nicely done. I live 10 minutes from battlefield and your graphics have just tied it all together. A pity HS2 is being constructed through the battlefield. Thanks for your excellent work.
HS2 isn't going through the battlefield. It misses it completely. The extensive archaeology done on this section of the route found nothing to do with the battle o,d the 15th century at all.
Fantastic work martin. A brilliant compiled video. Brillint history and a fascinating personality to find out about. Definitely a great way to show off your work on the period. Keep up the great work mate! 😁👍
Great work on these minis and I really enjoyed the historical background bits! I find a backstory/basing your miniatures around some historical unit can add so much more to your armies and adds much enjoyment to the project :) great video as always Martin! 11/10
Thank you Martin for ALL your presentations this year, Merry Christmas to both you and your supportive better half, well done Haley👍 Hope and your family stay safe and well during this difficult time, Cheers from the bottom of the hole🍺🍷🥃
Finding all the parts for 2 characters is gold. Minimal green stuff. Great job as usual. Liking the historical background. A time when you put your life on the line for your believes.
Excellent video man! Was wondering when you’d be posting some more Wotr stuff again. I love Graham Turners paintings , I’ve always used them for reference. There’s a level of realism in his paintings that seems to be better than anything in the other osprey books imho... no one seems to capture this period of history as well as he does! Thanks for the upload , really enjoyed !
You and Dom will have to Ken to one side and teach him basic British history. WOTR and 100 years war are not the same. He'll want to include it all with the Norman invasion next, just because they have armour and horses!!!
Not my cup of tea the war of the roses but great video beautiful figures painted to your normal high standard and a bit of history as well what more can you ask for that`s me happy .
Thanks mate, its just off ebay, similar one here www.ebay.co.uk/itm/90mm-Static-Grass-Applicator-Tufts-Wargaming-Railway-Scenery-Terrain-Loco-Flock-/132155480514?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
Just don't replicate Turner's images of Edward IV. He wrongly portrays Edward wearing the crown in battle. The crown wasn't worn in battle after Agincourt 1n 1415 until Richard wore it at Bosworth 1485.
I've read this before many times actually but have never found the original reference? Its one of thise things that seems to be common knowledge but not the source 👍
The impaled arms been used by Herbert can clearly be seen behind him in the Turner image which i was basing everything on. Graham Turner has done large amounts of research into the heraldry and livery which i corresponded with him about, so im happy with the outcome. Regarding the use, as far as i can see if personal arms included impalement this would not nulify their use. By this point the nobility were so interwoven its alomost impossible to find personal arms that are not impaled.
@@7thson726 I respectfully disagree about the impaled arms. These are often displayed in churches and tombs; they specifically represent a marriage, with the wife's arms on the sinister side. It would have been against the laws of heraldry for a man to bear the arms of another family as his own simply because he was married to a woman from that family; unless she were an heiress in her own right, in which case the arms would be quartered, not impaled. I would be interested in Graham's source for this; the Freezywater data makes the same error, as they do with Lord Clifford. The image below shows Herbert's son buried with his Woodville Countess. The impalement of the arms here is legitimate, on the battlefield it would not be. humphrysfamilytree.com/Herbert/Images/5.jpg
That’s the great thing about history - discussion. I'll have to see if i can ask him if i correspond with him again at some point. The main goal of my little project was to re-create the image he had painted using miniatures including the flag, so i think that’s fair enough. Ultimately, I’m using these for wargaming. I'm actually well versed in arms on tombs etc as i have to sometimes record them in my job. I guess in the image maybe the impaled arms have been used to differentiate him from his brother in a more visual impactful way as the mullet in his siblings flag isn’t very visible 🤔
@@7thson726 I was wondering why the picture shows 2 Herbert heraldic banners. Most wargame figures show a heraldic banner and a livery flag. Maybe you could replace the impaled version with an expanded version of the livery badge? I'm also looking into the Vaughans, as you're probably aware there were 3 branches active at this time with some confusion between them; I have the field azure for the Tretower line, but I'll need to review this before I can be definitive.
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Really interesting chat and the models look great. Thanks for sharing. 👍
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it 😃
Nice video, enjoyed the painting and basing tutorial and the history.
Thanks buddy, glad you enjoyed it 😃
Quite superb, great video with the painting and background info.
Thanks very much 😀
Great video format Martin. Hope you can make more.
Thanks mate, im glad you liked it, i will be doing some more and tighten up a few bits next time
Great video. Informative and sme fantastic painted miniatures. Great stuff
Glad you liked it, i really enjoyed putting it together 👍
Great video, must have take some time to make? This want me to start paint WotR, looks great. You get an apple for the history lesson too 😉👍
I'll take the apple 😀 cheers mate
Very interesting - great format - thanks for sharing
You're welcome, glad you enjoyed it 👍
Perfect for a rainy Sunday, I appreciate the effort you always put in!
You're welcome mate 👍 history and rainy days seem to go together somehow
Excellent video really enjoyed the history lesson and the models turned out well
Thanks very much 😃👍
Glad to see this kind of video : splendid figures, beautiful painting and flags, interesting period, informative historical background, and great technique for the bases...What's not to like here?😍😍😍
Thats very kind, cheers buddy 👍😃
Interesting video and some great figures great work.
Thanks buddy 👍
Great vid and nice to see the figure work also
Glad you enjoyed it 😃
Yesssss! Needed this in my life 👍👍👍
Haha hope you enjoyed it 👍
Weirdly enough, I often like the sketches that Turner produces for WOTR rather than the fully finished pieces. Recreating a scene in miniature is always great fun, and nicely done here. Top work!
Thanks very much. Thise sketches are lovely, im hoping he will do an artbook at some point 👍
Love this video, perfect mix of hobby/history, works so well and makes it really engaging.
Thanks buddy. This was my forst proper history/hobby vid and still my favourite. The whole story of Herbert and his brother is really compelling 😁
Very nice video very enjoyable.👍🤗🐻🐉
Thanks mate 👍
Another great idea for a project which adds another level of interest. Found the history of the battle fascinating - its not as widely covered as the larger battles. Love watching your videos.
Really pleased you enjoyed it 👍😀
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I was stupid lost the account password. I would appreciate any assistance you can offer me
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@Knox Benjamin Thanks for your reply. I got to the site through google and Im in the hacking process now.
I see it takes quite some time so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
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Excellent
Thank you 🙂 even after a couple of years this is still one of my favourite videos
Excellent stuff like the history aswell
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it 👍
Grand job Martin, love the unit, loved the history lesson as well, very interesting and tied in with Graham Turners stunning
Work, Well done 👍
Thanks mate 👍😀
Excellent video. Love your enthusiasm for the period- it's an ongoing project of mine. I've the
'Archers' print in the mancave- love Turner's work on the WOTR.
Thanks very much, the towton archers are on my list to get for the wall 👍
Not far from my home in Rushden! Northamptonshire is a bit of a treasure trove for the ECW and War of the Roses!
It certainly seems to have seen alot of action, plenty of battlefields 😁👍
Brilliant mix of history, with assembling and painting techniques. Great idea to re-create a painting.
Thanks mate 👍
Fantastic presentation, and great work posing those figures to capture that scene
Thanks 😃 really pleased you liked the info ans the figures 👍
Отличное видео, миниатюры покрашены шикарно.
Thank you very much my firend, appreciate you checking out the video 👍😀
Excellent video nicely done. I live 10 minutes from battlefield and your graphics have just tied it all together. A pity HS2 is being constructed through the battlefield. Thanks for your excellent work.
Yes i had heard about that. An excellent battlefield and a battle that i personally find one of the most intresting 👍
HS2 isn't going through the battlefield. It misses it completely. The extensive archaeology done on this section of the route found nothing to do with the battle o,d the 15th century at all.
Great history well presented ....AND ... great figures to boot...
Cheers buddy 👍
Superb stuff, great modelling and painting with history too, thanks for putting this out.
You're welcome 👍😃
Fantastic work martin. A brilliant compiled video. Brillint history and a fascinating personality to find out about. Definitely a great way to show off your work on the period. Keep up the great work mate! 😁👍
Cheers buddy, really pleased you liked it, got a few more to come 👍
Excellent video, final result really captured the painting. Look forward to seeing more
Cheers 👍😃 there will be more
Fantastic models love the knights a great bit of history and research very inspiring stuff 👍
Thanks very much 😃👍
Great work on these minis and I really enjoyed the historical background bits! I find a backstory/basing your miniatures around some historical unit can add so much more to your armies and adds much enjoyment to the project :) great video as always Martin! 11/10
Very kind mate 👍😃 glad you enjiyed it. Sometimes just getting that link to the history can help when you have a bit of a block 😃
Thank you Martin for ALL your presentations this year, Merry Christmas to both you and your supportive better half, well done Haley👍 Hope and your family stay safe and well during this difficult time, Cheers from the bottom of the hole🍺🍷🥃
Thank you for your kind words 😃 all the best, and looking forward to more hobbying in the new year 👍
Finding all the parts for 2 characters is gold. Minimal green stuff. Great job as usual. Liking the historical background. A time when you put your life on the line for your believes.
Definitely mate, glad you enjoyed it 👍😃
Spectacular Martin, great history and great painting as always
Cheers mate, glad you like it 👍😀
SWEET BUDDY WELL DONE
Thanks mate 👍
Great Stuff!
Thank you 👍
Great videoate very interesting. I didn't realise I lived so close to Edgcote seems I'm completely surrounded by battle fields.
You're smack bang in the middle of a load around there. Glad you like it mate, still one of my favourites to make 👍
Great video. Love the extra historical content 😀
Thanks mate 👍
What more do we want? Figures, painting and a history lesson... I know this is probably a lot of work, but please keep them coming...
You're welcome mate, there will be more 😉
Wonderful work! You captured the look of the painting really well with the figures, enjoyed the history lesson as well :-)
Thanks very much 😃👍
Splendid video dude
Thanks mate 👍
Bloody brilliant! I'd like to see you do Warwick and his men at some point. His livery is very distinctive and you can use them for either side.
Warwick is on the list for early 2021. Would love to do a history for him but there is so much to go through it would probably be 2 hours long 😃
A great video. Figures & History, what more could you want? I enjoyed this very mucj
Really appreciate that mate thank you 👍
Excellent video man! Was wondering when you’d be posting some more Wotr stuff again. I love Graham Turners paintings , I’ve always used them for reference. There’s a level of realism in his paintings that seems to be better than anything in the other osprey books imho... no one seems to capture this period of history as well as he does! Thanks for the upload , really enjoyed !
I couldn't agree more, he captures the moments of the battles really well. Glad you enjoyed it mate 👍
Love me a bit of history along with my wargaming videos. Good stuff, look forward to seeing more of the same.
Cheers mate, there will be more, just picking through a few candidates 😃
Great figure and thanks for the history lesson
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed the vid 👍
Top job
Thanks very much 👍😃
You and Dom will have to Ken to one side and teach him basic British history. WOTR and 100 years war are not the same. He'll want to include it all with the Norman invasion next, just because they have armour and horses!!!
o leslie lol I Know they are not the same. Its a long Running Joke Between me and martin :)
Great vid.. really enjoued that.
Cheers buddy, really enjoyed putting it together 👍
Not my cup of tea the war of the roses but great video beautiful figures painted to your normal high standard
and a bit of history as well what more can you ask for that`s me happy .
Thanks very much 👍😃
@7th Son That was a great vid. I've been watching your Hail Caesar battle reposts too and they are excellent. What size bases are you using?
Really appreciate that mate, thanks 👍 i use 60 x 45mm
Nice video, where did you get that static grass applicator?
Thanks mate, its just off ebay, similar one here www.ebay.co.uk/itm/90mm-Static-Grass-Applicator-Tufts-Wargaming-Railway-Scenery-Terrain-Loco-Flock-/132155480514?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
You shoud go on the telly
Haha think there would be an outcry 😅
please do a hooby hangout on your own sometime please
I do plan to do some more in the new year 👍
History lesson was good. Painting looked easy apart from the lion's
Cheers mate
my 15th grt grandfather
A really interesting man and character in the Wars of the Roses
Just don't replicate Turner's images of Edward IV. He wrongly portrays Edward wearing the crown in battle. The crown wasn't worn in battle after Agincourt 1n 1415 until Richard wore it at Bosworth 1485.
I've read this before many times actually but have never found the original reference? Its one of thise things that seems to be common knowledge but not the source 👍
@@7thson726 I think it's from a chronicle of the times, like P Virgil commenting on Richard using it? Once I read it, I never forgot it.
nice video mate still 100 years war all the way lol
Cheers bud, The 100 years war is like a tea party compared to the WOTR 😅😉
Interesting story, shame about the young Herbert brother and shame on Warwick.
It certainly is, yes Richard Herbert fought incredibly well by all accounts.
The impaled banner would not have been used; it represents a marriage, not an achievement.
The impaled arms been used by Herbert can clearly be seen behind him in the Turner image which i was basing everything on. Graham Turner has done large amounts of research into the heraldry and livery which i corresponded with him about, so im happy with the outcome.
Regarding the use, as far as i can see if personal arms included impalement this would not nulify their use. By this point the nobility were so interwoven its alomost impossible to find personal arms that are not impaled.
@@7thson726 I respectfully disagree about the impaled arms. These are often displayed in churches and tombs; they specifically represent a marriage, with the wife's arms on the sinister side. It would have been against the laws of heraldry for a man to bear the arms of another family as his own simply because he was married to a woman from that family; unless she were an heiress in her own right, in which case the arms would be quartered, not impaled. I would be interested in Graham's source for this; the Freezywater data makes the same error, as they do with Lord Clifford.
The image below shows Herbert's son buried with his Woodville Countess. The impalement of the arms here is legitimate, on the battlefield it would not be.
humphrysfamilytree.com/Herbert/Images/5.jpg
That’s the great thing about history - discussion. I'll have to see if i can ask him if i correspond with him again at some point. The main goal of my little project was to re-create the image he had painted using miniatures including the flag, so i think that’s fair enough. Ultimately, I’m using these for wargaming.
I'm actually well versed in arms on tombs etc as i have to sometimes record them in my job. I guess in the image maybe the impaled arms have been used to differentiate him from his brother in a more visual impactful way as the mullet in his siblings flag isn’t very visible 🤔
@@7thson726 I was wondering why the picture shows 2 Herbert heraldic banners. Most wargame figures show a heraldic banner and a livery flag. Maybe you could replace the impaled version with an expanded version of the livery badge?
I'm also looking into the Vaughans, as you're probably aware there were 3 branches active at this time with some confusion between them; I have the field azure for the Tretower line, but I'll need to review this before I can be definitive.