Groove Breakdown with Jay Fenichel: "Good Times Bad Times" by Led Zeppelin
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video, Jay breaks down the groove from "Good Times Bad Times" by Led Zepplin. The tune featured John Bonham on drums and can be heard on Led Zepplin's 1969 eponymous debut album.
Throughout this new lesson series, Vic Firth Artist Jay Fenichel will discuss a variety of popular subjects -- from fills and drum solos to techniques on how to practice smarter, not harder. Each lesson will expose you to concepts that will help develop your drumming skills, whether you're a beginner, intermediate or advanced level player.
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that bass drum is so hard
Oh wow. I've been trying to learn this, particularly the famous bass drum bit for so long and watching this it has finally clicked. It really helps too with the sticking shown. Thanks do much for a master class. Best wishes
measure 1 and 2 of the groove am sat here playing it over and over again on 0.5 speed, ill get there eventually XD
The right support hardware can help on a piece like this; for my Tama®/Hoshino® kit, I'd probably want to substitute specific components from the Sonor®/Hohner® Giant Step™ range (viz., a GTEP heel-and-toe kick pedal with Vic Firth® VKB-1 on the heel drive and VKB-2 on the toe drive; plus an HH674MC hi-hat tower).
Thx! Awesome playing
wicked, definitely will try it out
I'm nit picking, but I'd bet Bonham was singling his snare. Starting the 16th trips, started w/L is a signature Bonham sound. When I do my basic 16th trips around the kit, my first hit is often on the ride or hats, and sounds SMOOTH. Great job w/cowbell
absolutely... the sticking is completely up to you, so long as you get the sound and feel right.
thank you so much for 6:22
Perfect class. Very thanks Jay!
Aren't the bass drum doubles you've notated as 32nd notes, are they not meant to be sextuplets?
+Mikaël Capelle Yes they are, Jay is playing them as sextuplets when he plays at the tempo of the song.
+RazzerKirk Good ear razzerKirk... Yes technically Bonham plays them as 16th triplets, but I have found it easier for students to find it in 32nd notes first... So I opted to chart them in 32nd notes for this breakdown. As iopklmification mentioned... at tempo, they will inevitably be felt more as 16th triplets just because of the tempo. True 32nd notes would be rigid, but once a student get's it, their feel and their ear will kick in.
Not really, in original recording sometimes john bonham played it as 32nd notes...and lots of time it became sextuplets
Yes, they are. And to note how difficult they are, I have never --- NEVER --- seen them in a piano/guitar book, either with songs or lessons.
Absolutely brilliant drum lesson, cheers from Miami FL
i realize it's kinda off topic but do anyone know of a good place to stream newly released movies online ?
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Great lesson! What program are you using for transcription is it just Sibelius?
Visit TheDrummersAlmanac blog to download the sheet music for this breakdown. You can use the link in the description and then click blog.
Excelent!!!
Whats that direct drive pedal your using
1:54
can you do led boots ...jeff beck? thanks
Apart from the introductory fill being slightly off feel and committing the ultimate cardinal sin of replacing Bonham's flawless foot technique with a double bass drum pedal, a rather solid lesson - nice job!
He has the double pedal but isn’t playing it. He has the hi hat going the whole time.
The bass drum is triplets not 32nd notes
Approx 5:56 you played the triangle on the A of 3 when it was not notated.
The bass drum is wrong. In the section with the double hits on bass drum, they are broken triplets not straight 32nd notes. It shouldn't be written as straight notes. They are triplets! WTF?
The music is a just a guide to help a student learn the groove. In my experience, I have found it is easier for students to find the 32nd notes at a slower tempo in this situation, as opposed to the triplets. Once the student can play it at tempo... the difference between 32's and 16th triplets sound and feel very close. Once you can play it up to speed, your ear and feel will kick in to swing the phrase appropriately. But as far as sweeping doubles in general, you can notate the phrase either way and it still has the same affect... once you reach a certain tempo threshold.
Great job , thank you ! You have a lot of talent & knowledge to share! Great playing
John Bohnam didnt have a double kick pedal. Official bruh moment
He’s not using the double kick pedal, else he’d have to have three feet to keep on the hi-hat and both kick pedals. Official bruh moment
it's not that big of a deal dude. settle down.
There’s this thing called technology....
The second kick pedal doesn’t even move you actual tard
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why not just use the original song
+rob r ...For time's sake it's easier to have a guitar player send me a quick loop of the riff as apposed to finding a version of the tune minus drums. That's all you need for the breakdown ;)
Booo… do it like Bonham!!! single kick pedal baby
He is
He is. How can he play the hi hat and double pedal at the same time. Use your eye balls dumb dumb.
He is?
excellent video