Pokemon Mystery Dungeon But if the Characters Were Smart

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  • Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, But If the Characters Were Smart
    Excited for GEN 9 Pokemon Scarlet and Violet!
    Cast: Mudkip, Dan the RIolu, Dusknoir, Grovyle, Primal Dialga, Chatot, Manaphy, Darkrai, Cresselia, Guild
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ความคิดเห็น • 702

  • @Vengeful_Attacker
    @Vengeful_Attacker ปีที่แล้ว +2787

    The Dialga plan was so good that made Dialga talk normally.

    • @StarkSpider24
      @StarkSpider24 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      It made Dialga *sane* again! 😅

    • @AndrevusWhitetail
      @AndrevusWhitetail 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      Yeah showing the time gears to Dialga was such a smart move it turned his capslock off.

    • @bart1591
      @bart1591 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Yeah it's like "wait why do I need to fight u guys for in first place"

  • @arc_4543
    @arc_4543 ปีที่แล้ว +3823

    LMAO Mudkip didn’t have to do Cresselia dirty like that

    • @girishkumarpeddi6266
      @girishkumarpeddi6266 ปีที่แล้ว +586

      Nope that was very much warranted

    • @lucygirl1111
      @lucygirl1111 ปีที่แล้ว +392

      i have to agree with mudkip every single time i have to partner up with cress it takes so many reviver seeds

    • @ogmechsftw
      @ogmechsftw ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@lucygirl1111 explorers of alpha cress tho

    • @camus3192
      @camus3192 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      For real tho 😭

    • @Inkspeed
      @Inkspeed ปีที่แล้ว +80

      Cresselia hate gang

  • @TheKpa11
    @TheKpa11 ปีที่แล้ว +1638

    I was expecting the solution for temporal tower to be; Throw stun seed, then place gears in slots

    • @GenZVall
      @GenZVall ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Lmao 🤣 I'm dead

    • @AceFaz
      @AceFaz ปีที่แล้ว +165

      _casually spamming agility to just walk passed dialga_

    • @_marshP
      @_marshP ปีที่แล้ว +34

      thanks for using Yawn, Quagsire

    • @TheKpa11
      @TheKpa11 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@_marshP
      “Hmmmm, thank you hmmmmm”

    • @retrosquadchannel2.050
      @retrosquadchannel2.050 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Cast Blizzard and waltz towards slots for time gears.

  • @blue_lux
    @blue_lux ปีที่แล้ว +1790

    the problem with the dialga one is that dialga was turning insane. They tried to reason with him.

    • @scoobsdoobs392
      @scoobsdoobs392 ปีที่แล้ว +190

      I think the "characters" in the title also included Diagla

    • @blue_lux
      @blue_lux ปีที่แล้ว +86

      @@scoobsdoobs392 Idk man. You can be smart but go insane.

    • @dragonslair951167
      @dragonslair951167 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

      @@scoobsdoobs392 Yeah, but Dialga's insanity is basically necessary for the entire plot to function.

    • @scoobsdoobs392
      @scoobsdoobs392 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@dragonslair951167I agree

    • @thetreyceratops
      @thetreyceratops 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@dragonslair951167so is Grovyle going with Dusknoir into the portal, Manaphy not being able to be cured by Heal Seed or Gabite Scale, and Darkrai wanting to turn the world into darkness

  • @droozyyy
    @droozyyy ปีที่แล้ว +1234

    Nah the Cresselia Reviver seed line had me rolling

    • @OrangeDragon04
      @OrangeDragon04 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I've never played through the game. Is Cresellia really that pathetic?

    • @staciahime3560
      @staciahime3560 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      @@OrangeDragon04 yes

    • @fishyfishyfishy500akabs8
      @fishyfishyfishy500akabs8 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      @@OrangeDragon04 the Psychic type Cresselia teams up with you when you face Dark type Darkrai
      So yeah she’s pathetic

    • @EEManny
      @EEManny ปีที่แล้ว +80

      @@OrangeDragon04 she gets knocked out by long-range fire moves all the damn time meanwhile you have to go through 30 floors to get to darkrai

    • @OrangeDragon04
      @OrangeDragon04 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@EEManny Damn, now I feel like the Aron I brought along on missions in Red Rescue Team was far more useful.
      The bugger even survived Groudon, because it didn't use Earthquake... Somehow.

  • @Nauriek
    @Nauriek ปีที่แล้ว +2552

    I'd say everything but Darkrai makes sense. It would be weird if the "Nightmare Pokemon" didn't want to engulf the world in darkness to create an eternal nightmare.

    • @zekromtrainer1222
      @zekromtrainer1222 ปีที่แล้ว +244

      Actually Darkrai's the Pitch-Black Pokemon

    • @Nauriek
      @Nauriek ปีที่แล้ว +348

      @@zekromtrainer1222 Fair point - now that makes even MORE sense now!

    • @EeveeFlipnoteStudios
      @EeveeFlipnoteStudios ปีที่แล้ว +582

      Heal Seed one is a bit of a stretch too, tbh. A fatal, biologically ingrained illness is different from a temporary condition caused by an external source like being poisoned, burned or asleep. It’s like saying you can “cure” the oxygen deprivation from a fish outside of the water using medicine.

    • @auh4806
      @auh4806 ปีที่แล้ว +351

      @@EeveeFlipnoteStudios yeah. I was expecting for them to let manaphy die, so they can use reviver seed.

    • @dizzyheads
      @dizzyheads ปีที่แล้ว +100

      @@auh4806
      Death is different here since death seems to imply actual death in story

  • @Blues2Dark
    @Blues2Dark ปีที่แล้ว +211

    I like how Dialga transitioned from, "I will destroy you mode" to "Just put them in their places and we should be good to go" while in "Primal Mode" LOL 😆

  • @Wings_Of_Nightfall
    @Wings_Of_Nightfall ปีที่แล้ว +717

    When you make so much sense the voiceless MC actually speaks

    • @luckyiscrazy9560
      @luckyiscrazy9560 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      They speak rarely throughout the game. But it’s like only twice three times max

    • @mertensiam3384
      @mertensiam3384 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@luckyiscrazy9560 yeah specially at the end of the game
      Don't know why they don't make them talk cause we're told they talk by character interactions

    • @Alpacalii
      @Alpacalii 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      tbf mc isnt completely voiceless they have dialog options and a forced speech at the end

  • @conspiracypanda1200
    @conspiracypanda1200 ปีที่แล้ว +795

    I was going to point out the very obvious flaws in all of these corrections but then Mudkip told Crescelia to shut the hell up. 10/10 video You Win Forever

    • @Erik_Emer
      @Erik_Emer 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Is Cresselia difficult to deal with as an ally in this game? I never played it before.

    • @sans3497
      @sans3497 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@Erik_Emeryes her move set are useles keep burning for no reason her lvl are low too

    • @homerman76
      @homerman76 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​​@@Erik_Emer I think it's mostly just because of the usual issues with escort quests since Crescelia takes the place of one of your other potentially better party member options, comes in at a fixed level that isn't so great, will use up your revival seeds if she dies, etc. It's pretty much the same hatred all escort characters tend to receive on average 🤔

    • @thedragonballguy7570
      @thedragonballguy7570 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@Erik_Emer​ If you've played any Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games before, you can think of it like a mandatory escort mission. She's basically dead weight, and does nothing but eat up your resources as you're forced to keep her alive the whole Dungeon. You can't even train her in advance as she only joins for that one Dungeon. God knows what Chunsoft were thinking with that one.

    • @Theraisinkiller
      @Theraisinkiller 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Erik_Emerdifficult is an understatement, she actively gets in your way and wastes all your resources just to die again the next turn, dealing with her was the hardest part of the endgame imo

  • @nikkapa
    @nikkapa ปีที่แล้ว +154

    I like how darkrai is just staring at the food rethinking all his life choices

    • @FinalHopeTrio
      @FinalHopeTrio 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      He had to rethink his plan. Either he tries some other way to take over the world, or he joins the guild (and MC's party) and tries to right his wrongs (fun concept: you get him at a maxed-out LV 100, with the best possible stats without hacking).

    • @greenthepokemontrainer3358
      @greenthepokemontrainer3358 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      reminds me of digital circus scene

  • @vulpinitemplar5036
    @vulpinitemplar5036 ปีที่แล้ว +428

    I'm glad that in later mystery dungeon titles they at least decided it was a good idea for the escort to have their level scaled roughly to the mission, feels great having so much extra room in the pockets, you know?

    • @marcohueber5130
      @marcohueber5130 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Yeah, pmd 1 and 2 have almost all pokémon to escort at a level where they can be oneshotted by anything in the later dungeons... rare exceptions like Gengar and Cresselia exist, but they are still pretty low for the level of difficulty of the dungeon.
      The only good escort pokémon I know in those 2 games are Absol and Grovyle, anyone else is just... meh.
      Oh, and there are the pokémon to escort that spam the same move 20 times in a row, when you just want them to walk closer to the stairs and avoid unnecessary battles.

    • @vulpinitemplar5036
      @vulpinitemplar5036 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      ​@@marcohueber5130 I love it when they're given recover or something only to waste it all on the first room of the first floor, bonus points for if it's an escort with a buffed hp stat so it can withstand more hits than usual where the recover would have been real useful :b

    • @Doomzdeh
      @Doomzdeh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Bro, it’s legit so frustrating to be escorting some weak Pokémon through a Dungeon, making sure they’re never around any enemies, only for some gravelerock-hurling bastard to ruin everything from 8 tiles away.
      And then I lose half of my items and half of my coins. Because some Hoppip got hit by an effing rock and apparently that made me black out too.

    • @iamthehype3684
      @iamthehype3684 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@DoomzdehIve lost more than a few escort missions like this. Insert pokemon here: used magnitude, magnitude 10!

    • @Spacecoreinspace
      @Spacecoreinspace 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@vulpinitemplar5036 the fun part is iirc some pokemon still spam it when it's out of pp

  • @emerl2002
    @emerl2002 ปีที่แล้ว +575

    And thus, Cresselia became the next villain

    • @TheKpa11
      @TheKpa11 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Some Alternate typing forms ideas right there. Darkrai becomes light and Cresselia becomes Dark
      Cresai and Darsselia

    • @X36Granitplate
      @X36Granitplate ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Consumer of Reviver Seeds.

    • @ultimaterecoil1136
      @ultimaterecoil1136 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Nah. It’d try but it’s too weak. It’d be an early game boss like in explorers of spirit ( except there they aren’t trying to be the villain but are a a big enough jerk to create one)

    • @shiroshinigami239
      @shiroshinigami239 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Legends say Cresselia even waits these days for careless adventures who think its a great time to walk with a legendary only to loose all their reviver seeds to this monstrosity

    • @violetthebat8810
      @violetthebat8810 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      PMD3: "Crescent's Shadow!" Pffft... Just Imagine- 😂

  • @gamezerox
    @gamezerox ปีที่แล้ว +325

    You fool, by merely pushing Dusknoir you now have to fight TWO Dialga. That's like twice the amount of Roar of Time.

    • @D461Sage
      @D461Sage ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Just reason with both of them

    • @arminarlelt7471
      @arminarlelt7471 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      But do we get an insane remix of Dialga's theme? If yes than that's worth it.

    • @JadeJuno
      @JadeJuno ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@arminarlelt7471 we just get it playing twice in an awkward way.

    • @alduintheanti-dragonborn
      @alduintheanti-dragonborn ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ​@@JadeJunoOne plays normally while the other theme is played in reverse at the same time.

    • @ferrucciocaracciuolo8139
      @ferrucciocaracciuolo8139 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sleeping seed Helping hand focus Punch.

  • @salem3641
    @salem3641 ปีที่แล้ว +332

    idk with grovyle pushing dusknoir he's like what. less than half his size? it makes sense that he had to go with him because he probably had to use all of his body weight just to get him to go thru the hole

    • @talasheart7889
      @talasheart7889 ปีที่แล้ว +186

      Plus, in the special episode from Explorers of Sky we learn that Grovyle was trying to buy us time by distracting Dialga long enough, that it wouldn't come after us /send Dusknoir again.

    • @kopfloserbeginn3879
      @kopfloserbeginn3879 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      Just telling Dialga that you're here to help probably wouldn't work since the damage to the tower effected it's mind, in the future it actively worked against that objective so it wouldn't surprise me

    • @zephyrlink7726
      @zephyrlink7726 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Grovyle weighs 1/5th of Dusknoir haha

    • @EpicEric25
      @EpicEric25 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Besides grovyle knows he’s gonna die anyway after temporal tower is restored

    • @shinronvaynex5900
      @shinronvaynex5900 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I haven't played the game. But I assumed from the animation that dusknoir was getting sucked in, and he was holding on to grovyle.

  • @MicaelAlighieri
    @MicaelAlighieri ปีที่แล้ว +71

    If Grovyle hadn't gone to the future with Dusknoir, he would have returned, or even worse, Primal Dialga, it even tried to do it in a special chapter.

  • @brandonwong8614
    @brandonwong8614 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    To be fair Grovyle would have to be very careful when pushing him like that since just touching any part of the portal would sent him to the future, and it kinda looks like he's on top of it there when dusknoir was pushed

    • @homerman76
      @homerman76 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Not to mention the fact that there's nothing stopping him from coming back through another time portal

  • @henryevergreen2678
    @henryevergreen2678 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    To be fair, Dialga was already losing control of his mind at that point, that's why he was unreasonable and you had to knock him out. the game literally tells you that. 0:33

    • @steampunkfox4932
      @steampunkfox4932 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      That’s what I was thinking, his primal state is literally caused by him going mad and losing control of his mind

    • @JadeJuno
      @JadeJuno ปีที่แล้ว +7

      As someone else said on another comment, "I think the "characters" in the title includes Dialga."

    • @karar.kendall4872
      @karar.kendall4872 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I bet if you were to actually show the gears to him, the battle would start up anyway.

  • @steffanocavero5872
    @steffanocavero5872 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    I always assumed Grovyle did that because he wanted to make sure Dusknoir stayed in the past for good or something.

    • @LilacMonarch
      @LilacMonarch ปีที่แล้ว +47

      future*

    • @draconicfeline6177
      @draconicfeline6177 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Yeah. that, or he needed to like... bodily leap in to shove darkrai into the portal completely.

    • @Lupen69
      @Lupen69 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dusknoir*

    • @johnnyknadler1157
      @johnnyknadler1157 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Future of darkness:

  • @martijnvanweele6204
    @martijnvanweele6204 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    0:50 I think it's more likely that Dialga would accuse you of being thieves as well...

    • @M4x_P0w3r
      @M4x_P0w3r ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I mean... He wouldn't be exactly wrong, either

    • @chaosinc.382
      @chaosinc.382 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      "VANDALS /AND/ THIEVES! PREPARE TO BE CRUSHED!"

  • @seriousquil7161
    @seriousquil7161 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    That last point isn’t far fetched for Darkai, as it’s a Pokémon that really hates light. So a world full with darkness would be a wet dream for this mon.

    • @arctohru
      @arctohru ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Get Darkrai some sunglasses and problem solved

    • @MamaTrixxieAsmr
      @MamaTrixxieAsmr ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@arctohru some sunglasses, and a nice dark basement room

    • @MamaTrixxieAsmr
      @MamaTrixxieAsmr ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SirJay-ty5qf and pokepark 2 as well i believe

    • @JadeJuno
      @JadeJuno ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MamaTrixxieAsmr YOU FOOL, YOU TURNED DARKRAI INTO A DISCORD MODERATOR!

    • @MamaTrixxieAsmr
      @MamaTrixxieAsmr ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@JadeJuno tbf he already is
      I mean like
      Look at that unkempt hair he's got

  • @nightblade3709
    @nightblade3709 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I always thought the point of Grovyle going into the future with Dusknoir was to prevent Dusknoir from going to Primal Dialga in the future and just having him open up another Dimensional Hole to go back. Showing up 5 second after they pushed him in and accomplishing basically nothing. Which is what Dusknoir was going to do in Special Episode 5 if he didn't have the idea of taking Grovyle's body on top of that.

  • @LassBisharp
    @LassBisharp ปีที่แล้ว +132

    Man, they're so smart that the protagonist actually spoke out loud.

    • @lightningmanectric3096
      @lightningmanectric3096 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The only other time is when they commit yellow light.

    • @LassBisharp
      @LassBisharp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lightningmanectric3096 Yellow light?

    • @lightningmanectric3096
      @lightningmanectric3096 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LassBisharp The ending scene.

    • @johnnyknadler1157
      @johnnyknadler1157 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lightningmanectric3096the ending scene is when the partner cries to bidoof

    • @lightningmanectric3096
      @lightningmanectric3096 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnnyknadler1157 Okay, so it happens during the last point you can save from before the credits. You know what I meant.

  • @lightningmanectric3096
    @lightningmanectric3096 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Riolu: That's a good point.
    Mudkip: Wait, you can talk?!

  • @nicolasarroyo1746
    @nicolasarroyo1746 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Cresselia should've been invited to eat reviver seeds to the guild

  • @funveeable
    @funveeable ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Heal seeds heal status conditions. If it cured Curse and Leech seed then maybe it could cure Manaphy.

  • @cowgirlstreams8060
    @cowgirlstreams8060 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Looks like Loudred isn't having dinner

    • @juliandelapena4293
      @juliandelapena4293 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what was the point of Loudred? I completely forgot

    • @Brahvim
      @Brahvim ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@juliandelapena4293 To wake us up?

    • @M4x_P0w3r
      @M4x_P0w3r ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@juliandelapena4293 He wakes people up and relays the information that Digglet tells him about the visitor's footprints to the guild.

  • @Dunkeli27
    @Dunkeli27 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    only 36 reviver seeds? cresselia mustve been extra careful to stay out of danger today

    • @FinalHopeTrio
      @FinalHopeTrio 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How many did yours use up? Mine used, I shit you not, 1. One single reviver seed, and it wasn't her fault. There were enough spares that the boss itself was a breeze.

  • @Me-dr9dv
    @Me-dr9dv ปีที่แล้ว +49

    2:06 Man, I felt that. She was freaking useless in that battle and/or dungeon.

    • @FinalHopeTrio
      @FinalHopeTrio 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Not for me. She allowed me to become the party's murder hobo, which meant a lot of levels and a good prep. She even decided to NOT faint more than once on my run!

  • @Supermutant6112
    @Supermutant6112 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    -Dusknoir is larger and stronger than Grovyle, so Grovyle would need to back off and pick up a decent amount of speed to get enough momentum to push in Dusknoir. Doing that would give Dusknoir time to strike back or flee. By grappling him he would be able to force him in, albeit at his own expense.
    -Dialga has gone mad beyond listening to reason at this point.
    -Heal Seeds deal with conditions like poison, burns, or paralysis/stunning. Manaphy was straight-up dying from something biologically wrong with it. It would be like taking an anti-inflammatory medicine when you're dying of Stage IV cancer.
    -The darkness spread by Darkrai induces eternal nightmares for the afflicted. Darkrai can manipulate peoples dreams. By doing on a planetwide scale that it could effectively make itself a god.

    • @makim_
      @makim_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fua la re vivis escubi

    • @GhostGuy99
      @GhostGuy99 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Darkrai pretty much already is a god if he can square up to the Creation Trio in his debut movie.

    • @maggi98mw
      @maggi98mw 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Heal seed also works on stuff like perish song btw

    • @harrymillar4193
      @harrymillar4193 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree with the Heal Seed, Darkrai and Dialga going mad (in fact don’t they actually try to reason with him? I’m sure they do).
      But couldn’t Mudkip just use water gun? Mudkip won’t always be there but there are any number of moves that could be used not to deal damage but to blow Dusknoir backwards. Also any number of seeds like Stun or Sleep would work. It’s only needed for a few seconds so they can throw him into the portal.

    • @zorquil
      @zorquil 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@GhostGuy99 He died in the movie though. :< He was able to hold them off, which is quite an accomplishment, but it doesn't make him a god. However, by having everyone in a nightmare, he can control their dreams to his whims and be able to mind-bend loads of Pokémon, then he can become an all-powerful god.

  • @coolredcloud
    @coolredcloud ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I loved the ending one and it was perfect, but I would have died of laughter even more if I saw cresselia’s head in the window watching them eat lol

  • @Sjors_
    @Sjors_ ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I think the issue with Dialga is that he's no longer capable of thinking reasonably by the time you reach him. The tower's collapse is clearly having a detrimental effect on his mind, so trying to explain the situation to him wouldn't work.

  • @Ezecool-3105
    @Ezecool-3105 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    1:57 HE WANTS IT

  • @AloncraftMC
    @AloncraftMC 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    "You used 36 of our Reviver Seeds on the way here." So relatable LOL

  • @TheShiningEnergy
    @TheShiningEnergy ปีที่แล้ว +11

    0:09 Mudkip is apparently from New York.

    • @Brahvim
      @Brahvim ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ...?

    • @TheShiningEnergy
      @TheShiningEnergy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Youse (or, as Mudkip says: "use"). It's a New York way to say "You"@@Brahvim

  • @TheSpaceCommunist
    @TheSpaceCommunist ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “Why don’t you just push him in?”
    “Because he’ll just come back if there’s no one to stop him in the future.”
    -
    “Here are the time gears. We were returning them.”
    “I DON’T BELIEVE YOU. I CANNOT SEE REASON BECAUSE I AM GOING INSANE.”
    -
    “Why don’t we just use a Heal Seed?”
    “Because it only removes status effects and can’t actually recover your health.”
    -
    “Why would you want a world of darkness? That sounds awful and needlessly evil.”
    “Because darkness is my natural environment. What’s normal for you is my own personal hell that I can only escape for a few hours at a time if I’m lucky.”

  • @Usman.Mannan360
    @Usman.Mannan360 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Laughed so hard at Dialga staring at the time gears and Riolu's "Why?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @mhx5071
    @mhx5071 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    That first one is something I always wondered about lol

  • @squirtle_10
    @squirtle_10 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    i love how dialga stops talking in all caps LOOOL

  • @mariahs6
    @mariahs6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dialga talking normally and being okay with the plan got a huge laugh out of me!

  • @raviaviaviavioli
    @raviaviaviavioli ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Grovyle went with him to make sure Dusknoir wouldn't just pull time travel shenanigans and come back again.

  • @koichikagehira654
    @koichikagehira654 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All those made me chuckle, it's true those were some unnecessary drama / plot holes (though not that big), especially Grovyle's "sacrifice"
    *But* just for the sake of it I'll advocate for the reasoning behind the (original) scenes
    - Though the big speech ruins this impression, Grovyle throwing himself into the dimensional hole with Dusknoir could make sense if that hole's existence was time constrained. If Grovyle just threw Dusknoir in, who knows if he might not just take it the other way to come back if it still exists, so supplementary precautions had to be taken
    - It wasn't Dialga on the Temporal Tower but Primal Dialga (or at least in the making). He was turning crazy, so I wouldn't expect him to listen even when presented the time gears. So valid reason to throw hands before speaking (at least way more than with Rayquaza in the previous game)
    - Heal Seed according to some wiki, "[…] heals many bad statuses, such as being poisoned or paralyzed"
    "Many", hence not everything. I don't exactly remember Manaphy's illness, but pretty sure it wasn't just a bad burn you can catch fighting other pokemons
    - Darkrai is basically a psychopath. Do you really expect to reason with him on his motives? He wants to have a world to his liking that he can rule, that's unfortunately pretty realistic considering what can be found in the real world

  • @Mr.Nahe.Dortmund
    @Mr.Nahe.Dortmund ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Pokemon mystery Dungeon: Explorers of intelligence

  • @corundumkrabble5035
    @corundumkrabble5035 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Option 2 wouldn't have worked bc Dialga was becoming more and more unhinged by the second

  • @DaveCharts
    @DaveCharts ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Cresselia bout to end the world because of what Mudkip said

    • @marcohueber5130
      @marcohueber5130 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah, sure... A normal attack later... Cresselia: "I-Impossible!" *dies*

  • @dancostello4872
    @dancostello4872 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The best part of this is how the music just stops playing every time you make a good point, as if to leave the idea in the air until eventually the realisation hits them like 'oh shit yeah'
    Also Mudkip is such a savage, especially to Cresselia 😂

  • @scaper12123
    @scaper12123 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Dusknoir one is legit, but sadly for the others,
    1) Dialga was basically mindless so it wouldn’t follow their logic
    2) pretty sure Phione was not suffering from a status condition so heal seed wouldn’t help
    3) Darkrai actually wanted that dark-engulfed world, frankly. Because screw everyone else.

    • @saklee1777
      @saklee1777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The dusknoir one doesn’t work either. If grovyle just pushed dusknoir into the portal, he would’ve just gotten primal dialga to teleport him back to the past again and primal dialga might’ve gone with him. Plus grovyle probably wasn’t even strong enough to push dusknoir into the portal without having to use all his weight and strength and couldn’t just push him in just like that

  • @alduintheanti-dragonborn
    @alduintheanti-dragonborn ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Another way to heal Manaphy would be a reviver seed.

    • @alex63859
      @alex63859 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Gabite scale

    • @saklee1777
      @saklee1777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or maybe just to put manaphy in a tub of water all day or to drink tons of water

    • @miuki2721
      @miuki2721 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or to drop him in salt, because that's what the sea is made off.

  • @YoshiDryBones
    @YoshiDryBones ปีที่แล้ว +46

    These were fantastic. We need more of these! They are hilarious!

  • @fireheartfan72
    @fireheartfan72 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Darkrai: this mortal food, it disgust me.

  • @DoomedDragonz
    @DoomedDragonz 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Cresselia burning through all your reviver seeds is too real 😂🤣😂🤣

  • @eddiec9756
    @eddiec9756 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rest in peace all the seeds Cresselia used up when I was a child trying to do this mission. XD

  • @solidzack
    @solidzack ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Well if Palkia wad smart the protagonists would've never met Cresselia or Darkrai because the deity of space wouldn't waste its time kidnapping them from their home to its secret lair before attempting to kill them and it wouldn't accidentally pushing them off a cliff in trying to do so.

  • @robinangelo9918
    @robinangelo9918 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    1:25 - becuase

    • @Brahvim
      @Brahvim ปีที่แล้ว +1

      _Mudkip saying 'use' when talking of pushing Dusknoir:_

    • @RaceBandit
      @RaceBandit 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sorry for the buzkill, but:
      Similar situation to why Amphy needed the SecretPotion in GSC/HGSS. The Heal Seed doesn't cover diseases as well as it would handle the usual statuses.
      Although the "Use the panacea item" route's pretty funny when it works.

  • @alexslgato1735
    @alexslgato1735 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Chatot: that's the only way to heal it.
    Mudkip: but why don't use a heal seed?
    Chatot: that may work. But only the short term, the same way you don't eat a heal seed to stop being thirsty or how a previously eaten heal seed won't heal you again if you get poisoned. Here, I'll give one to little Manaphy here to help with the symptoms while you go for the Phione Dew.

    • @jasminecole8596
      @jasminecole8596 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mudkip: It might be dark, but what about a Reviver Seed?
      Chatot: If it came down to it, maybe. We are not sure how well a Reviver Seed works with this sickness, and its a wise last resort but its best to do whats known to work.

  • @renemaier5197
    @renemaier5197 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My theory about Grovyle going with Dusknoir is that Dusknoir would immediately try to get back into the past again if he was pushed alone, but with Grovyle going with him into the future, he can make sure he stops Dusknoir from just travelling back and thus ensuring a free path for our characters.

  • @dudeguy1894
    @dudeguy1894 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I was half expecting Cresselia to be standing to the side watching everyone eat at the end.

  • @killeing
    @killeing ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "You used 36 of our reviver seeds on the way here!" That hits so fing close to home XD!!!

  • @AxisX7
    @AxisX7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Notice how Darkrai is just floating there at the end & leaving his plate of food completely untouched?

  • @thedankpapyrus4779
    @thedankpapyrus4779 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For me the best part is darkrai is just floating there MENACINGLY

    • @munken7673
      @munken7673 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is that a JoJo or Spongebob reference

  • @FishronCatFurryBoi
    @FishronCatFurryBoi ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dialga was So Suprised he stopped talking in CAPs

  • @LesbianMermaid
    @LesbianMermaid ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The bit about cresselia using 36 reviver seeds sent me because I used to get so mad during that part at all my reviver seeds being wasted! 😂

  • @wolffang471
    @wolffang471 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Darkrai:" Well, dark is literally in my name, so that is kind of my thing."

  • @mohxevhoddrest2519
    @mohxevhoddrest2519 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Sounds good to me" - Every Legendary

  • @Alex-mq6qi
    @Alex-mq6qi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Shut the fuck up Cresselia" eternally obliterated, 10/10

  • @grottosstuff
    @grottosstuff ปีที่แล้ว +13

    If I was in PMD I would’ve done this 😂😂😂😂

  • @reesewhittington6778
    @reesewhittington6778 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:20
    *”How do I eat?”*

  • @itmcbhpbgf.6374
    @itmcbhpbgf.6374 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    dayum, Mudkip throwing some shade at everyone xD

  • @darkphantasmx
    @darkphantasmx ปีที่แล้ว +5

    logic is such a beautiful thing

  • @thomaslecomte1570
    @thomaslecomte1570 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love how the literal villain of the game is invited to party but cresselia can go to the deep end and everyone will like this

  • @brandenbarbarano2833
    @brandenbarbarano2833 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The first two I can kind of understand the choices they made. Grovyle went back with Dusknoir because that way Dusknoir doesn’t try to come back to the present to stop the whole paralyzing planet. Dialga was just uncontrollable and couldn’t be reasoned with. Still a great video. I loved it.

  • @ianleather5699
    @ianleather5699 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Likely lore reasons why these happen:
    1: Grovyle knew he was going to disappear soon anyways, and it's likely Dusknoir was too heavy for Grovyle to push without pushing his whole body against Dusknoir.
    2: Primal Dialga's too berserk to communicate or reason properly, and even if they tried to sneak past him, they would just end up getting hit while their back was turned, which could be fatal (TheKpa11's suggestion of using a stun seed then running past him is good though)
    3: Heal seeds likely are meant to help your body speed up its healing of temporary statuses like poison and paralysis, which can eventually be healed off without a heal seed. Sickness probably needs its own special medicine, especially for a specific legendary.
    4: Some people just get sick of seeing the sun, I suppose (Cresselia not joining dinner is a good call though!)
    But great video like always, PMD gan!

  • @mjwillin
    @mjwillin ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Cresselia part lol

  • @Gothstana
    @Gothstana ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is what happens when you give Dialga a Snickers.
    Because you're not you when you're hungry.

  • @alphabladelm2011
    @alphabladelm2011 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Grovyle could use a move like Bullet Seed or Energy Ball to blast Dusknoir into the portal. If it isn’t enough, it might stun him long enough for the others to recover and gang up on Dusknoir; it would definitely be a karmic end for such a horrible villain.
    If Darkrai plunged everyone into an eternal slumber and nightmare, wouldn’t everyone eventually die within a couple months? They’d be unable to wake up and eat or drink and the stress would kill them faster. All of Darkrai’s victims would be dead before the year was a quarter over. What exactly would Darkrai do if he had nobody to torture?

  • @_WiZ420
    @_WiZ420 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That Darkrai scene is more like another nightmare played out than anything

  • @A-Dead-Soul
    @A-Dead-Soul ปีที่แล้ว +4

    that was straight commedy lmaooo

  • @hayleeh18
    @hayleeh18 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:50
    Dialga not yelling feels illegal 😂

  • @jeevm491
    @jeevm491 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the 36 reviver seeds is so true lol XD

  • @jonboner2987
    @jonboner2987 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always thought that it was necessary for Grovyle to go back to the future, as he would need to physically prevent Dusknoir from time traveling again. Am I forgetting something here?

  • @ASwallie65
    @ASwallie65 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually really love this video because the humor is pretty on point with actual mystery dungeon humor (at least in rescue team and exploration team, I don't know about the other games)

  • @justinnzamora5366
    @justinnzamora5366 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How about an alternate timeline where Chatot actually listens to your story after the Apple Woods chapter resulting in Team Skull getting rightfully punished?

    • @saklee1777
      @saklee1777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, the partner and the player should’ve just said it was team skull’s fault. It makes me mad that they don’t say it just because chatot yells at them and says he doesn’t wanna hear their excuses

  • @Squood
    @Squood 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Chatot, you are so fucking stupid.” That felt personal, and I love it.

  • @vossboss220
    @vossboss220 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The cresseia jabs never get old

  • @onepieceking1770
    @onepieceking1770 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Lol omg 😂 the darkrai one made me laugh so hard

  • @derpyderp1991
    @derpyderp1991 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    36 revive seeds damn that must be a deep backpack

  • @GearTech147
    @GearTech147 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Who would want the world to be engulfed in darkness?"
    "Me, you dumbass. I just said that. Now if you would let me speak, maybe..."

  • @Jzwiz
    @Jzwiz ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wasnt dialga going insane so even seeing the time gears wouldnt work to calm him normally. Or is he one of the now smart characters

  • @charlescarter4905
    @charlescarter4905 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Better line choices
    Dan: yeah there's an hole in that plan Darkrai.
    Darkrai: "chuckles" and that 'hole' is?
    Dan: the move Flash.
    Darkrai: 😶😶😶 "faceplams" darn it.

  • @ThiccTropius
    @ThiccTropius ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:00 - 0:30 there is a reason why grovile doesn’t just push him in… dialga can open dimensional holes anywhere as well as anyWHEN… so if dusknoir was simply pushed in… he would come back strong a few minutes after being pushed in to give them a false sense of hope and would delay them long enough to allow temporal tower to collapse… grovyle went with him to prevent that very situation from happening… you can’t prove me wrong here…

  • @sosams
    @sosams ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dialga: FOR THOSE WHO INVADE THE TEMPORAL TOWER, I'LL SHOW THEM NO MERCY!
    Grovyle: We have the Time Gears for saving the tower.
    Dialga: *Understandable, have a nice day*

  • @Angelark456
    @Angelark456 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay, let's go by points:
    1) The first scenario could not be done, since Dusknoir had recovered strength at that time and could deceive Grovyle and take him to the Future
    2) The fact that the protagonists deliver the Gears to the Primary Dialga is not a good idea either, since Dialga at that point attacks those who reach the top to sabotage the Tower
    3) The Cure Seeds or the Scales of Gabite I do not know says they can cure Manaphy's disease, it would have been more logical to use Jirachi
    4) To begin with, Darkrai would not even listen to you, since you are locked in an illusion that he controls, from which the protagonist could get out thanks to the partner or what he realizes; if you questioned the reason for his plan, Darkrai would not doubt at all, since his purpose is to conquer the world, besides, if you go powerful to that battle and with high IQ, not even Cresselia would be a problem

  • @saklee1777
    @saklee1777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The problem with the grovyle one was that if grovyle had just pushed dusknoir in, dusknoir would’ve gotten right back to primal dialga and would’ve been sent right back to temporal tower to fight again and bring primal dialga to fight too

  • @TheCyndaquilDud
    @TheCyndaquilDud ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is too hilarious. I almost fell off my seat. Thanks!

  • @Fredwood3000
    @Fredwood3000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bold claim, I personally wouldn't use 'smart' to describe these solutions.
    1. I reckon it would be easier for Grovyle to go with Dusknoir and keep him company to ensure he doesn't regroup and return to the present with even more (or stronger) forces.
    More importantly however, the portals weren't introduced to work like that; What touches them goes through and if Grovyle needed to grab Dusnoir that firmly to even get him through one of those, he inevitably would have to follow as well.
    2. Dialga doesn't seem to recognize (or respond to) reasoning since with the tower collapsing it is losing its mind, that's the whole point of the fight.
    3. An Illness isn't exactly a status condition or at least it doesn't have to be one. One Heal Seed might buy time by helping with the symptoms for a day or two, but it doesn't have to cure Manaphy's Illness at all.
    4. I don't have much to say about Darkrai since you made him a completely different character.
    To "Who would want the world to be 'engulfed in darkness'?" he would simply respond "I do."

  • @celestialsylveon6453
    @celestialsylveon6453 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Even if you push someone who's holding you you'd still be held and pulled in, Dialga was insane and insanity is not the same as intelligence, heal seed may recover most status ailments but there's no lore saying it's a cure all and Chatot wasn't stupid to begin with. Villains aren't reasonable not because of intelligence but because of the kind of person they are and Darkrai's biology is also not intelligence related.
    I will say though that line about reviver seeds was a very nice joke.

  • @matthewfera2954
    @matthewfera2954 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know those old question type memes that said, "You can put one f bomb in any movie of your choice, what movie and where?"
    This is by far the best use case of that concept. My god, this was already satisfying but the scene with chatot made me lose it laughing more than I have in a while.

  • @BlockBlazer
    @BlockBlazer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No one:
    Darkrai:
    Remember when Dusknoir dragged you into the future? Where you endured months of torment and suffering? Or the time when your deer ol' friend Grofyle sacrificed himself to send Dusknoir
    Back? Or how about the time when you tried to stop the collapse of Temporal Tower and Dialgia attacked you?
    *It was me, Mudkip. I corrupted Dialgia to the point of madness. I orchestrated the entire thing. Planned every single detail just to make your life a living hell.*

  • @The_D_ray
    @The_D_ray ปีที่แล้ว

    Typos apart, this was fucking awesome.
    Mudkip's "Chatot, you're so fucking stupid" is priceless.

  • @letsplaysvonaja1714
    @letsplaysvonaja1714 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Idk, pushing a heavy pokemon like that from a save distance and without risking a counter attack seems like a stretch
    Angry dialga also wouldn't necessarily listen to reason and if a heal seed works on illnesses is also questionable, especially since manaphy got ill from being on land, rather than actually getting infected with something

  • @officerdoggy8958
    @officerdoggy8958 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Grovyle: If I did that then Celebi would be by herself with no one to help her
    Chatot: First off rude and second a heal seed won’t work on this illness
    Darkrai: Did that happen? I don’t remember