Review of spiral wrap guides is spot on. You will see some benefits in casting distance. Some folks say it's minimal at best. It definitely has to do with the whole setup. For years I've built all of my bait casting rods with the spiral wrap and do believe that distance and control is improved. It really comes into play with big saltwater rods where the blank is under tremendous amounts of pressure for extended periods of time. Traditional wrapped guides on these rods will actually cause the blank to twist and promote failure. I could see it also coming into play for musky rods and big catfish rods. But, no bass is ever going to put enough pressure on a well made blank to cause that to happen. But, the question isn't why WOULD you spiral wrap guides on any rod? The question is why WOULDN'T you? There are no benefits to traditional wrapped guides. But, there are some benefits for spiral wrapping. Even on bass rods. So, it's a no brainer. Custom builders have utilized it for years. But, the commercial market is always behind on most innovations.
Acid wraps are life!!! Just looking at your setup under load in the thumbnail made me want to mention that you may want to swap to a LH reel on that one. I tried wrapping a few builds in either direction and found that the LH reels felt even better on bass builds where the guides wrapped toward the right since it places the line against the outside of the guides instead of in toward the blank during a fight. Tight lines!
Glad to see you kicking after the fall lol, awesome looking rod right there. Thanks for the constant content and the gold mine of knowledge you possess.
I’ve got an old 7’ MH Fast Fenwick Techna AV and I love it for all around. Little too much backbone for small trebles but man I’ve never had a rod that handles so many styles of fishing. It goes up to 1-1/2oz bait too.
The trick spin casting rod is what you want for walking a bait. The rod you're holding is what I use to skip senkos. Finesse fishing is where it really shines. I have some of all of the rods. Hit me up and I'll bring all 8 of mine up there and let you try them all. Glad you like it.
In the saltwater world its known as an acid wrap. Its used in deep water vertical jigging where there would be a lot of torque on the guides. In freshwater I think this would be better suited for something like punching grass. You are fishing nearly vertical and may have to pull up a ton of grass along with a big bass.
Excellent review on the fishing rod. When you say that you can cast a lure a mile, approximately how many yards is the distance? I’m trying to determine just how poor my casting distance is. Ty for any consideration.
@@BassGeek ya it came out about a year ago, maybe less. It's pretty good actually, you should check it out, if for nothing else than to see how it stacks up.
Kistler feel and reel is my preference for crankbaits, ect.... It has a great mod. tip for hooksets....Spiral guides from a engineering standard point looks like there would be more friction... I guess the concept is different and looking through the guides watching the line would be different....
I used the link for the rods but there wasn't much info or a way to view any other models. Where are these rods built? I am familiar with spiral wrap rods have had two for cranking that were built by Lowe's super one touch out of Arkansas . Where can I get more info about the builder?
Newer to the channel been catching up on your videos you’ve got some great content. I was thinking of picking up a LFS in the 6.8:1 for my jig rod was curious on your thoughts or recommendation for a reel for my jig rod?
BassGeek I couldn’t reply to your comment earlier for some reason but I was planning on using it for my pitching jigs, football jigs, and light flipping jigs I was thinking the 7.5:1 after I commented.
Matt Erickson I would look at a 7ft 6in rod there ar a lot of good pitching rods out there I’m ising one by Dixie custom right now called the meat stick.
Actually just reminded me, there is an ultralight casting rod B&M makes that I so wanted to try for a finesse casting rod. Gonna go order now, well after the vid lmao.
Spiral guides are GREAT for large baits and tall rods you're throwing serious weight with. It really helps distribute the pressure more evenly across the blank. That said, I still prefer straight guides for the most part.
Ive been using JB Custom rods since 2003, I will not use any other rod- There is no comparison. The spiral wrap outperforms any rod on the market. JB was the smartest, kindest, most wonderful man you could ever know- He left quite a legacy in the friendships he made along the way....RIP from Superfly
Did you buy that at the Knoxville expo? I've been wondering how that rod has been working out for ya. Glad to see a vid on it bc its something different for sure.
It takes 6-12 months to use something long enough and enough times to say if someone else should spend their hard earned money on something. I work my butt off for my equipment and I am sure everyone else do too. So if I am gonna say buy this or buy that I want to be sure it’s worth the money.
Stoney Lonsome I cant fish every day and when I do get to go it’s about the bite not testing rods so they get used when the bass are on that bite. Work, family, make it hard to fish every day. Most of the time is once a week if your lucky.
I know this is an old video. I'm just wondering if you ever started to bottom fish with it. Seems like that rod would of been better suited for it. If ya ever did, how did you like it then?
The main purpose of the spiral wrap is to eliminate the torque that is inherent in placing a load on a rod with the guide train on top. It makes the rod more stable in hand under load. In theory, a spiral wrap should not have any noticeable effect on casting distance. I think it is more likely that your rod casts well because it is built on a quality blank, a minimalist build with relatively lightweight components, and proper stripper guide placement. This article explains the spiral guide concept pretty well: www.onthewater.com/rod-design-fishing.
Great info on the spiral wrapped rods. I have used a spiralite rod before. I liked it, Im not gonna say I noticed any huge difference over a well made regular rod. From my understanding, for bass fishing, there are only small advantages to using spiral rods like casting distance, etc. where a spiral wrapped rod truly shines is for deep sea fishing and on those big rods that catch big fish. Thats where you see the huge advantage of way less torque on the rods and less strain on the rod and yourself when you are fighting fish that weigh more than you do. For bass fishing, you gotta think, probably the biggest fish you are possibly going to hook is around 10lbs. Those fish are rare, and if you have a good rod, good line, and good reel, you are going to get him in within a few minutes. But when you are fighting a tuna or sailfish or giant grouper or something, you might be fighting a fish for several hours. Thats when your torque and rod twist truly come into play.
"If it's going to hold up, you'll know with me." Yes because at some point it's likely going to end up in the lake (along with you maybe), and that won't be the worst thing to happen to it.
Review of spiral wrap guides is spot on. You will see some benefits in casting distance. Some folks say it's minimal at best. It definitely has to do with the whole setup. For years I've built all of my bait casting rods with the spiral wrap and do believe that distance and control is improved.
It really comes into play with big saltwater rods where the blank is under tremendous amounts of pressure for extended periods of time. Traditional wrapped guides on these rods will actually cause the blank to twist and promote failure. I could see it also coming into play for musky rods and big catfish rods. But, no bass is ever going to put enough pressure on a well made blank to cause that to happen.
But, the question isn't why WOULD you spiral wrap guides on any rod? The question is why WOULDN'T you? There are no benefits to traditional wrapped guides. But, there are some benefits for spiral wrapping. Even on bass rods. So, it's a no brainer. Custom builders have utilized it for years. But, the commercial market is always behind on most innovations.
I'm really pleased with it and thank you for the awesome comment and input.
Acid wraps are life!!! Just looking at your setup under load in the thumbnail made me want to mention that you may want to swap to a LH reel on that one. I tried wrapping a few builds in either direction and found that the LH reels felt even better on bass builds where the guides wrapped toward the right since it places the line against the outside of the guides instead of in toward the blank during a fight. Tight lines!
That’s great info thanks for sharing
I'm diggin that grip on the rod. Great review man.
Yea I do want to see if it helps with feel
Great company, product, & great pro staff! Loved sharing a booth next to them @ the ETFS! I will have one of those in my arsenal shortly!
Gus Bock I agree they have been awesome!
Another good video, I might be the only old feller that didn't know about the eyes on bottom, thanks man
I hadn’t seen them before this rod
Thanks for review BG.. definitely agree on using it more then just a couple trips out before you can recommend something.
Thanks! I want to test more of them for sure
JB's rods are awesome. You will not regret purchasing one
I don’t for sure!
Glad to see you kicking after the fall lol, awesome looking rod right there. Thanks for the constant content and the gold mine of knowledge you possess.
Thanks for watching and yeah I’m still kicking
I’ve got an old 7’ MH Fast Fenwick Techna AV and I love it for all around. Little too much backbone for small trebles but man I’ve never had a rod that handles so many styles of fishing. It goes up to 1-1/2oz bait too.
Wow that’s crazy it goes up that high
The trick spin casting rod is what you want for walking a bait. The rod you're holding is what I use to skip senkos. Finesse fishing is where it really shines. I have some of all of the rods. Hit me up and I'll bring all 8 of mine up there and let you try them all. Glad you like it.
Hey that’s cool thanks
Good video Hank!! JB’s are some nice looking rods. Would like to try them out ,,for myself!!
Yeah I want to test them for more presentation.
I remember seeing the spiral rod guides at the fishing show in Knoxville 20 something years ago,,didn't stick back then,,maybe this time it will.
Maybe I like it so far I would like to test a few more
In the saltwater world its known as an acid wrap. Its used in deep water vertical jigging where there would be a lot of torque on the guides. In freshwater I think this would be better suited for something like punching grass. You are fishing nearly vertical and may have to pull up a ton of grass along with a big bass.
Tennessee Kayak Fishing I could see that for sure.
Heck yeah keep us updated brother very interested in a new all around Texas rig style rod 👍👊🇺🇲👌🎣
It’s a cool rod for sure
JB Custom rods are awesome man. Extremely sensitive rod. I have the 7 ft snake rod, they work great.
I love this one can’t wait to try more
Great rod, great company, and great review! 👍👍👊.
I agree. Thanks man
Just an fyi, the guides should twist to the left if you use a RH reel and to the right on a LH reel to offset the fish torque.
Cool
This wrap style was made popular by the Bud Erhardt Fishin’ Stick years ago.
Thanks great info. Thanks for sharing.
Excellent review on the fishing rod. When you say that you can cast a lure a mile, approximately how many yards is the distance? I’m trying to determine just how poor my casting distance is. Ty for any consideration.
I would say I could cast a Heddon One knocker 60yds maybe more. I'm bad with distance however. lol
BassGeek, thank you. Helps me greatly.
I have the KastKing Spirale with the spiral guides. I doubt it's the same level as these custom rods, but for a hundred bucks it's a great rod.
Hmmmm I didn’t know Kast King made one that’s cool
@@BassGeek ya it came out about a year ago, maybe less. It's pretty good actually, you should check it out, if for nothing else than to see how it stacks up.
Your Humminbird videos helped me understand my helix pretty well, i owe it to you to grab a nice hoodie. Thanks!
Nicholis Edwards Thanks sir! That’s awesome!
If you are ever going to be in the central NC (Burlington, NC) area let me know. I’d love to go fishing with you.
I’m not far from there If I have enough support and guts To jump next year it just may happen
Good looking just don't know if I could get use to it
There’s really no difference in feel
Is JB custom rods still in business? I would love to pick up another one. He makes great stuff. Super nice people too.
Yes sir
👍
fingers crossed you come up to champlain this may/june!
Man I want to soooooooo bad! If I have the support and guts to make the jump next year it may happen
Kistler feel and reel is my preference for crankbaits, ect.... It has a great mod. tip for hooksets....Spiral guides from a engineering standard point looks like there would be more friction... I guess the concept is different and looking through the guides watching the line would be different....
Well on a standard guide the line can touch the rod blank On the spiral guide it should not be able to do that.
I used the link for the rods but there wasn't much info or a way to view any other models. Where are these rods built? I am familiar with spiral wrap rods have had two for cranking that were built by Lowe's super one touch out of Arkansas .
Where can I get more info about the builder?
I would just call JB Custom they build them they could tell you all you need to know I’m sure
@@BassGeek www.custombasdrods.com. been using the for almost 20 years. Hated to see that JB passed away but they still build the best!
Newer to the channel been catching up on your videos you’ve got some great content. I was thinking of picking up a LFS in the 6.8:1 for my jig rod was curious on your thoughts or recommendation for a reel for my jig rod?
What are you doing with the jig casting pitching? I would go with the 7 speed on a jig rod for sure
BassGeek I couldn’t reply to your comment earlier for some reason but I was planning on using it for my pitching jigs, football jigs, and light flipping jigs I was thinking the 7.5:1 after I commented.
Matt Erickson I would look at a 7ft 6in rod there ar a lot of good pitching rods out there I’m ising one by Dixie custom right now called the meat stick.
BassGeek I appreciate the feedback thank you and god bless.
Actually just reminded me, there is an ultralight casting rod B&M makes that I so wanted to try for a finesse casting rod. Gonna go order now, well after the vid lmao.
Its spiral guides too.
That's cool. Keep us posted.
Could you send me the link I definitely wanna check it out too
Spiral guides are GREAT for large baits and tall rods you're throwing serious weight with. It really helps distribute the pressure more evenly across the blank. That said, I still prefer straight guides for the most part.
Good info I love to toss the big baits so I might get me one for that
Nice looking rod. Keeper for sure. 🤜🤛
I agree
Ive been using JB Custom rods since 2003, I will not use any other rod- There is no comparison. The spiral wrap outperforms any rod on the market. JB was the smartest, kindest, most wonderful man you could ever know- He left quite a legacy in the friendships he made along the way....RIP from Superfly
I did get the privilege of meeting home he was awesome
if the medium rod is suitable for making a spiral guide
Yeah they make them in every type of action you can find
Got my Hoodie. Love da channel!
Brian Taylor Heck yeah thank you!!!
Did you buy that at the Knoxville expo? I've been wondering how that rod has been working out for ya. Glad to see a vid on it bc its something different for sure.
Yup sure did. It’s good just a few changes I would make but it’s nice AF!
It takes 6-12 months to use something long enough and enough times to say if someone else should spend their hard earned money on something. I work my butt off for my equipment and I am sure everyone else do too. So if I am gonna say buy this or buy that I want to be sure it’s worth the money.
I agree! A lot of youtubers will chase those views.
Stoney Lonsome I cant fish every day and when I do get to go it’s about the bite not testing rods so they get used when the bass are on that bite. Work, family, make it hard to fish every day. Most of the time is once a week if your lucky.
Good looking outfit. I’m giving my wife the hoodie idea for Christmas.
Thanks man.
I know this is an old video. I'm just wondering if you ever started to bottom fish with it. Seems like that rod would of been better suited for it. If ya ever did, how did you like it then?
I used it as a jig rod and really liked it!
@@BassGeek Awesome, good to know. Thanks for quick response!!
this is the best fishing chenel..🇮🇩👍👍
Thank you very much!
Keep for sure brother and definitely get some more
I agree.
The main purpose of the spiral wrap is to eliminate the torque that is inherent in placing a load on a rod with the guide train on top. It makes the rod more stable in hand under load. In theory, a spiral wrap should not have any noticeable effect on casting distance. I think it is more likely that your rod casts well because it is built on a quality blank, a minimalist build with relatively lightweight components, and proper stripper guide placement. This article explains the spiral guide concept pretty well: www.onthewater.com/rod-design-fishing.
JMThomson10 Good info! Thanks for sharing
You know your stuff, my friend.
Thank you.
Keep for sure brother
I agree.
Great info on the spiral wrapped rods. I have used a spiralite rod before. I liked it, Im not gonna say I noticed any huge difference over a well made regular rod. From my understanding, for bass fishing, there are only small advantages to using spiral rods like casting distance, etc. where a spiral wrapped rod truly shines is for deep sea fishing and on those big rods that catch big fish. Thats where you see the huge advantage of way less torque on the rods and less strain on the rod and yourself when you are fighting fish that weigh more than you do. For bass fishing, you gotta think, probably the biggest fish you are possibly going to hook is around 10lbs. Those fish are rare, and if you have a good rod, good line, and good reel, you are going to get him in within a few minutes. But when you are fighting a tuna or sailfish or giant grouper or something, you might be fighting a fish for several hours. Thats when your torque and rod twist truly come into play.
Great information! Thanks for the breakdown we very much appreciate it!
I’m a rod builder, and many years ago I did a spiral wrap on a stand-up tuna rod. It was and still is a fantastic tool for fighting a big fish!
Nice
Thanks
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Thanks
BassGeek
You’re welcome! I really liked your transition to fall video, it definitely helped me out! 🤙
"If it's going to hold up, you'll know with me."
Yes because at some point it's likely going to end up in the lake (along with you maybe), and that won't be the worst thing to happen to it.
Lol cold man just cold hahahahahA
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BAM! No.1
Not a spiral guide
That’s called a Roberts wrap
Started in salmon steelhead community
Keeps light line from touching bank
Well that’s what they called it so that’s what I called it. It’s cool no matter what the name.
Ahh
Love site
Coulda called it NO BS
Thanks I do love the knowledge drop
Bass Geek I wonder if fewer guides would increase casting distance
They told me that on this style rod more guide was the key