Literally, the biggest thing holding me back from leaning over more is the fear of scraping up my bike from a fall. Maybe if I kept a “wrecked bike” fund I wouldn’t worry so much 😅
Ok so here’s a thought, maybe I just need knee pucks lol. I’ve leaned over around 52 degrees according to my bike but I was wearing Kevlar jeans. What is the typical lean angle needed if body position is correct, I’m curious now 🤔
Always wear full armor and protective gear …. Take it slow and put the puzzle pieces together one by one, your actual lean angle will likely be less than you think in order to get your knee down. Ideally you will need some form of knee pucks to achieve your goals. Thank you for watching, please ride safely and come home alive!
I done a knee down course at Mallory Park. The instructor was egging me on like this pinching his finger and thumb together to show me how close I was. Gave it some extra on the next run and threw my bike down the road - gutted. Had to get the bike transported home 😢
You litterally have to say "fuck it" man! It's only money. and if you fear falling then realise it doesnt hurt much as you are pretty much on the ground anyway.
Thank you for the positive comment ! I want all my students to become better, safer riders - God instruction - Positivity, hard work and practice is all that it takes ! Continued safe riding to you !
@@thebritonabike Yeah man my best friend races 400's and we went out one day and i followed him around a roundabout a couple douzen times, increasing speed to force me to lean further, when I got there my whole world changed. The only way I can put it is like having a extra wheel, you feel pretty sturdy! U have had a few spills since but I get better at confidence building each time. :_)
@@Livingreciever It Absolutely is the best feeling when you've finally got the technique down and get off the side of the bike enough - and lean enough to drag a knee ! Just remember it's really not necessary for street riding - save it for the race track where it is supposed to be used ! I wish you continued safe riding !
Upper body is the key. The purpose is to contrast the G-Force. Keep your upper body as low as possibile facing the corner ( as you wanna dive toward the apex ) and keep the bike less lean as possibile
Super video! Really helpful, really taught me a lot about body positioning, as before I thought my problem was not going fast enough into corner, I'll work on my body positioning at lower speeds and see how that works for me
Glad you enjoyed it - check this video I made for a more detailed explanation - I wish you continued safe riding : th-cam.com/video/q5fuKX8Mg1I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=EI3kI2BjVyrz8sSe
brings back memories from 23 years ago during my youngers days.. now i am getting back into riding a bike again. its been 10 years now since my last ride..
Great that you are back on 2 wheels again - just remember that although you USED to ride - your motorcycle rising skill set needs to brought back up to 'safe' riding standards - which means practice, practice practice - please don't become a statistic - please always wear GREAT armored gear - and I wish you continued safe riding !
@@thebritonabike I haven’t tried riding in the main city street yet and freeway yet. Just backroad and empty parking lot on the weekend. Once I feel comfortable I’ll be hitting city street.
Awesome meeting you 2 ! I Love your RT1250 - such a great touring bike and much more ! Don't forget to check out my videos with MOTOJITSU - I think you'll enjoy them ! Continued safe riding on those monster long motorcycle camping and riding tours you so love to do Mr.Iron Butt! Text me for my gear info recomendations. Hope to ride with you in So Cal - next time you hit the West coast. Keep the shiny side up!
this is reinforcing the wrong things about "knee-down" and "cornering". getting your knee to touch the ground is a reward for proper techniques and lines. You don't practice getting your knee down then worry about the corner later. knee downs will come naturally if you're doing the proper things.
I agree with you in principal but that wasn't the point of the training or the exercise. The student's all wanted to get the 'experience' with proper technique in a safe (no traffic / limited danger) environment ie. the training range. If their line was off or they went wide in the corner nobody is getting hurt. Getting them comfortable exploring lean angles, getting off the bike and with correct body position, foot position etc ec was the point. IF they managed to drag a knee - then the jigsaw puzzle pieces came together. For me as an instructor It's all about practice, training and safety. The result will come if you put in the time. Continued safe riding to you.
I am super lucky to have such an awesome practice-area … try looking at local industrial areas, and business parks that are not busy at the weekends … you might find a good parking lot to practice in! Thank you for watching, please ride safely and come home alive!
@@thebritonabike yeah I've looked. The challenge is finding one where the floor isn't all lumpy and covered in gravel! Found one recently but was asked to leave by security.
Keep trying, perhaps a local school or college car park? Or maybe ask you local town council or even police HQ, they might have a good suggestion. Tell them that you are safety training and need help finding a suitable location to practice. Don’t give up, Ask and Yee shall receive!
The best thing about carpark practice like this is you can make a big ol circle, get the angle, HOLD the angle and get comfortable with learning. Most corners are there, then gone and you're only ever in them for the shortest of times. The way i got good with (right hand) cornering was going around this one roundabout on the way home, it was super big and always empty, and it's the only way i truly got comfortably slowly adding more and more learn
Thanks for sharing! Yes I agree finding a big enough open and empty parking lot to practice is a huge challenge. Early Sunday mornings for public parking lots, shopping mall lots, etc etc ..... Mid week I have had success using church parking lots as they are rarely used or busy during the work week. But I always ask permission first, explaining that I am simply looking for a safe location to practice slowly and responsibly. I like the idea of using a huge roundabout to practice .. but the biggest issue is cars and traffic. Continued safe riding to you!
@@thebritonabike thankfully my fav roundabout is typically dead and it helps me practice looking ahead and assessing the road condition. I've been trying my best to up my safety since my crash late last year, first in 6 odd years riding 😅 I've got my partner learning to ride at the very back of the top floor of a big carpark and it's always empty during the weekday arvos
Sorry to hear you had a crash - glad you survived it. Please continue to practice safely and always wear full armored gear for every ride. Survive the ride! @@andrewg4412
Of course - it doesn't matter what bike you ride the technique is the same - here is me on my 'naked' Suzuki VanVan getting my knee down th-cam.com/video/q5fuKX8Mg1I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jHPiWrdYjqmPVF_l and again in my huge BMW K1600 as well. th-cam.com/video/9S3l8slWqFM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=C_Y3pLHRTHLmknZZEnjoy - please ride safely !
I love motorcycles, I love riding motorcycles, but Teaching motorcyclist to ride better and safer is my new passion. Nothing makes me happier. Thank you for watching, please ride safely, keep practicing and come home alive.
three sections i separate into 1 get into a corner. 2 in corner. 3 push off. and practice in various speed, corner angle . then you will get used to right body position and right lean degree of the bike in each familiar corners around your area. doing circle is one practice. but there are many kind of practice to make you feel ease for doing natural. like slalom, cichen, tight u turn, wider u turn. brake lever feel, clutch feel, moment to control when entering the corner, position in corner, throttle control, finding nearest spot to push off. these will make you become natural on doing it.
I have a question why... does it feel so easy and natural for me to drag my left knee.. but feels so akward and yet not done it in my right knee. Which is a pain because most circuits in uk are clockwise
Great question - the answer is simple - the throttle really requires smooth control ! and that's on your right hand grip ! So you have to counter steer to the right by pushing forward on the throttle whilst maintaining smooth speed and control. It's a lot to manage and to do correctly and it takes a bit of practice to master. Another fun fact is that most cornering accidents happen in right hand turns for the same reason. Here in the USA when you take your motorcycle licensing test ALL of the turns and corners which we evaluate you on are to the right - it is essential to be able to use your throttle smoothly as you corner - especially if you are trying to get your knee down. Continued safe riding to you!
@@thebritonabike thank you. For your time to answer. My position just feels so stiff on right corners. I'll take your advice and try it next time I'm on track
@@bobbifumi2006 Best advice is to watch this: th-cam.com/video/q5fuKX8Mg1I/w-d-xo.html Then go back to the basics as you practice. It's a jigsaw puzzle so take your time and get the all the pieces in place and you'll be comfortably dragging in right hand corners before you know it! Continued safe riding to you.
How do the feet need to be positioned on the footpegs while in an optimal lean angle to get your knee down? Because after looking at photos i have enough lean but i cant get my knee off the gas tank enough and my other foot slips off the peg
I totally understand .. this video will help.If not - reach out to me. Try watching the whole vide for all the tips, but the foot position part is around the 11 minute mark in the video. th-cam.com/video/q5fuKX8Mg1I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=UEO-av9jL90d9KGz
Keep practicing! The more you practice the better and safer you’ll ride. Remember that knee contact with the ground is your gauge that you are at or approaching your maximum safe lean angle.
my thing with knee down is always position of my bike on the road - do i want to be like further to the outside of the corner and then coming over towards the apex?
YOU are absolutely correct ! I teach ALL my students to ONLY use knee down at the track (nothing coming at you) or when you can 100% see all potential oncoming traffic - in the canyons PLEASE stay away from the apex and 'center line' of a 2 way road when you can't see what's coming at you around the next corner .... 2 many cars cut the corners and cross the center line and bikers become road kill in blind corners. Continued safe riding to you !
I've just bought a fireblade, but it scares the hell out of me, I would like to come to one of these schools and learn how to ride a fast bike properly
The Honda Fireblade is a SUPERBIKE - and requires advanced motorcycle skills to be able to ride and handle safely. The best advice I can give you is to seek out professional training, or go to a race school that specializes in teaching riders how to safely ride high performance high horsepower motorcycles. California Superbike School or Yamaha Champs school are both excellent. In the meantime - take it slowly, ride safely, wear ALL your protective gear every time you ride and practice, practice practice.
@@thebritonabike Thanks for the reply, I will definitely take you on your advice, and thanks for the brilliant videos, keep up the good work and thanks again
@@al-azimahmed1188 You are most welcome - if you are in Los Angeles California I will happily train you for free. But you'll have to answer '10 question for Biker' and let me do a review of your Fireblade ! Ride safely.
@@JDSPerformance25 Depend how much your leaning,, if you are at 45 degrees ,huge chance of low side ,always try to avoid the heavy painted lines, and in the wet they are lethal.
It is true that one reason people drag their knees in corners is to say they can and to have the photos and scuffed knee pucks as evidence of their awesomeness. But, the real reason why knee dragging exists is to provide a lean angle gauge. If your body position is consistent from corner to corner, all day long, then you can reliably use your knee as a measuring device. For street and Canyon use it is absolutely not necessary, fun yes, but not needed. At the track in a race - then knee dragging becomes a necessary skill set for the fastest and those that win races.
Try a local industrial area - the parking lots are usually pretty empty on a Sunday. Just don't be pulling wheelies and messing around. If police or local security show up just tell them you are practicing safe riding skills away from traffic so that you don't die out on the roads.Thank you for watching and please ride safely - come home alive!
Under most circumstances it is dangerous to ride on painted lines, so NO braking on painted lines or leaning your bike on painted lines whilst cornering as it is also dangerous for obvious reasons - the paint reduces your available traction. At this parking lot range the concrete surface is new and VERY VERY rough , brushed and textured. So the paint has very little effect on traction so long as riders stay on the throttle and maintain there forward momentum. But to answer your question it is ALWAYS best to avoid braking, swerving or cornering ontop of painted lines. Out in the canyons and public roads pleased do your best to avoid riding ontop of the paint !
@@louismartin4446 You are welcome - always remember that your contact patch of rubber is only 4 inches - 2 at the front - 2 at the rear and motorcycle tires (when warm) actually bond by chemical reaction between the tire surface and the asphalt /concrete. That's how we achieve proper traction. ANYTHING between that contact patch that isn't concrete or asphalt will reduce a motorcycles traction. ie. Water , sand, gravel or painted lines.Continued safe riding 2 U !
What motorcycle do you ride ? The taller the motorcycle the harder it will be as it will require more speed and more lean angle. But the same rules and techniques apply. 5'5" of height should be no problem for you with practice and a standard sized motorcycle. But you might have to get your butt off the seat and off to the side a little bit more to compensate for slightly shorter legs. I have a female student who is 5'1" tall who rides a BMW G310R and I have taught her to get her knee down with no problems. Continued safe riding to you.
@@thebritonabike i usually ride my small cc bike the r15 v3 i live in and urban area so not much room for big bikes even the 390 is over power in my area cause of the continuous turns but thanks alott bro huge help.. ride safe thanks..
@@haiderali-wn1sn I agree empty parking lots and places to train and practice are hard to find. During the week CHURCH parking lots are usually empty, and at the weekends look for lots in business industrial areas that are closed and unused. But always ask permission to practice first.
How do they manage it for so long without getting cramp?! If I attempt it for too long (and still unsuccessful) I start to lose feeling in extremities or muscles cramp up.
Does your gear fit you well ? does it allow you to hold the correct body position comfortably ? if NOT ....Stress, fear or anxiety causes tension. If you aren't relaxed then you will get muscle cramps .. it is a very unnatural position to put your body in. Simply put you need to get comfortable with being uncomfortable which just means practice. Best advice I can give is watch my other video ... best of luck. Reach out any time. Stay safe. th-cam.com/video/q5fuKX8Mg1I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IiytvOLGBQxgykml
The wider the circle the easier it will be when practicing - typically I will set 30' or 40' diameter circles but it's all about having smooth throttle control to stabilize the bikes suspension, then good body position, head turn and finally getting your knee out and down. Thanx for watching - ride safely and come home alive!
@@thebritonabike Thanks, now to find a decent bit of tarmac! Hard to find here in Ireland - any carparks that are big enough are viciously cambered so the suspension will be working overtime!
@@frankymacf not if you are smooth on the throttle, set your speed, control your throttle and the camber of the road surface will have minimal effect on your suspension travel and ground clearance. The camber will affect how much lean angle you’ll need in order to actually get you knee down depending if it is positive or negative and the direction you are traveling in …… thanx for watching, ride safely and come home alive!
Oh damn nevermind lol... Just watched more vids and realised that although your a brit you are actually in the US lol. Great video though! Nice tips and interesting live critique
I train in Los Angeles CA - up near Six Flags Magic Mountain Theme Park. If you are local message me and I'll add you to the next free training and parking lot practice! Continued safe riding.
God bless you for couching those young men and educating your audience all around the world. I will try it soon to overcome the fear that is holding me back for 5 years.
Thank you for the compliment - it is much appreciated. This video I made might also help you. th-cam.com/video/q5fuKX8Mg1I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=vJKxx5B2RW3NirRm Good luck with your practicing and I wish you continued safe riding!
There are many ways to drag a knee but I try to teach the safest and easiest methods in order for my students and new riders to achieve maximum results and success. A lot of it depends on the bike and seat style that you are riding as well. I wish you continued safe riding!
Thank you so much! I love teaching safe motorcycle riding - just keep practicing, trust your good technique and your HOT tires and wear good armor and gear - you'll get there sooner than you think! Thank you for watching - please keep riding safely and always come home alive.
A lot of my fellow instructors ride GS 1250's and most if not all can drag a knee on them ! Takes confidence, skill and lots of practice ! Thank you for watching please always ride safely and come home alive!
Yes - he rolled off the throttle and broke/lost traction in the corner while in a lean. He needed more speed / momentum and maintenance throttle! Fortunately just some scrapes on the bike and a bruised ego ! Thank you for watching and continued safe riding to you.
Wear all your gear, and take it slowly! Build up to dragging with smooth throttle control, stabilize your suspension, good head turns and relaxed upper body. All the instructions and techniques to achieve it are in the video .... too much to write here. But have fun, be safe and let us know how it went!
Los Angeles - CA - I am an instructor for the California High Way Patrol / CMSP - California Motorcycle Safety Program. Thanx for the positive comment - much appreciated. I wish you continued safe riding!
I agree that the track is absolutely the best place to practice getting your knee down, and the best place to use the technique. But tires are only cold if you don't scrub them in and that only takes a few minutes of proper weaving ... thank you for watching, ride safely and come home alive!
I am a huge fan of MotoJitsu - have you seen the interviews and riding videos I did with him ? th-cam.com/video/A0mJr009D7I/w-d-xo.html Continued safe riding 2 U !
Welcome and thanx for subscribing! Feel free to message me if you have any questions regarding safe riding techniques, gear or motorcycles ! Keep it shiny side up !
He crashed because he wasn't smooth on the throttle and he increased his lean angle without increasing his speed. More lean = more risk. Gravity got the better of him and pushed the bike all the way down! Fortunately no real damage to rider or the bike. Thanx for the feedback ! Continued safe riding to you!
@@thebritonabike how would you recommend adjusting rear sets for better maneuverability and easier knee down? I have Bonamici rear sets and in still trying to find the perfect position.
@@VirtuosoX1 Best video to understand the' rear set' process is here: th-cam.com/video/0bYgspw1ry0/w-d-xo.html I would advise having the bike up on a rear paddock stand first - well centered and balanced - have another person help support and balance the bike as you sit on it - then set up and adjust your body position for correct knee position to the tank and foot position to the pegs. It's all about a correct comfortable fit - you to the bike and the bike to you. The more comfortable you are = the more control you will have of the bike and that will mean your are safer. Stay safe out there on 2 wheels! This is another excellent video for you. th-cam.com/video/YYeHvMQdMs4/w-d-xo.html
Indeed - but we discussed the possibility of drops, and bumps and scratches so the owner was cool about it - embarrassing for the instructor who dropped it ! Just glad the bike had frame sliders on it which took all of the hit - bike was undamaged. Best of luck & Continued safe riding to you.
I agree completely… getting a knee down as a new rider is not important at all, but as an instructor if that’s what my student wants to learn I will happily teach them in a safe, controlled environment, where they can practice and achieve there goal safely. It’s no different from wanting to learn how to pull a wheelie or ride fast canyon corners whilst trail braking …. None of these riding skills are important for new riders to learn …. But if you want to learn the ‘how’ It’s my job to teach …. But safely. Thanks for watching. Ride safely and come home alive!
Literally, the biggest thing holding me back from leaning over more is the fear of scraping up my bike from a fall. Maybe if I kept a “wrecked bike” fund I wouldn’t worry so much 😅
Ok so here’s a thought, maybe I just need knee pucks lol. I’ve leaned over around 52 degrees according to my bike but I was wearing Kevlar jeans. What is the typical lean angle needed if body position is correct, I’m curious now 🤔
Always wear full armor and protective gear …. Take it slow and put the puzzle pieces together one by one, your actual lean angle will likely be less than you think in order to get your knee down. Ideally you will need some form of knee pucks to achieve your goals. Thank you for watching, please ride safely and come home alive!
@@benwells2338 you can get knee down at 40 degrees. 52 is pushing on .
I done a knee down course at Mallory Park. The instructor was egging me on like this pinching his finger and thumb together to show me how close I was. Gave it some extra on the next run and threw my bike down the road - gutted. Had to get the bike transported home 😢
You litterally have to say "fuck it" man! It's only money. and if you fear falling then realise it doesnt hurt much as you are pretty much on the ground anyway.
I love the positive coaching!
Thank you for the positive comment ! I want all my students to become better, safer riders - God instruction - Positivity, hard work and practice is all that it takes ! Continued safe riding to you !
I remember my first time getting my knee down, it was on a R1, one of the best feelings of my life.
Damnnn ... newbie knee down on an R1 !!! I wish I had filmed that one .... I wish you continued safe riding ! th-cam.com/video/q5fuKX8Mg1I/w-d-xo.html
@@thebritonabike Yeah man my best friend races 400's and we went out one day and i followed him around a roundabout a couple douzen times, increasing speed to force me to lean further, when I got there my whole world changed. The only way I can put it is like having a extra wheel, you feel pretty sturdy!
U have had a few spills since but I get better at confidence building each time. :_)
@@Livingreciever It Absolutely is the best feeling when you've finally got the technique down and get off the side of the bike enough - and lean enough to drag a knee ! Just remember it's really not necessary for street riding - save it for the race track where it is supposed to be used ! I wish you continued safe riding !
This was very fun and informative to watch. I'm trying to learn myself! Wish I had a mentor to come help me!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanx for watching - ride safely and come home alive!
I got so excited just watching the progression of these guys! now i need to find a parking lot big enuf to do figure 8s
Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching! Lots more videos coming soon. Ride safely and come home alive.
@@thebritonabike cheers mate, u too
Upper body is the key. The purpose is to contrast the G-Force. Keep your upper body as low as possibile facing the corner ( as you wanna dive toward the apex ) and keep the bike less lean as possibile
Great point and comment! Thank you for watching, please ride safely and come home alive!
At 7:03 I started screaming "yeah". Awesome teaching!
Glad you enjoyed the video - I LOVE teaching safe riding skills ! Continued safe riding to you ! Keep the shiny side up!
Super video! Really helpful, really taught me a lot about body positioning, as before I thought my problem was not going fast enough into corner, I'll work on my body positioning at lower speeds and see how that works for me
Thank you ! This video I made goes into more detail ! Enjoy and I wish you continued safe riding ! th-cam.com/video/q5fuKX8Mg1I/w-d-xo.html
Very helpful video. Saving this to my favorites list so I can keep referring back. I'm practicing mate!
Glad you enjoyed it - check this video I made for a more detailed explanation - I wish you continued safe riding : th-cam.com/video/q5fuKX8Mg1I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=EI3kI2BjVyrz8sSe
brings back memories from 23 years ago during my youngers days.. now i am getting back into riding a bike again. its been 10 years now since my last ride..
Great that you are back on 2 wheels again - just remember that although you USED to ride - your motorcycle rising skill set needs to brought back up to 'safe' riding standards - which means practice, practice practice - please don't become a statistic - please always wear GREAT armored gear - and I wish you continued safe riding !
@@thebritonabike I haven’t tried riding in the main city street yet and freeway yet. Just backroad and empty parking lot on the weekend. Once I feel comfortable I’ll be hitting city street.
James! Great meeting you this week at the Grand Canyon. I enjoyed the conversation. I’ve subscribed and look forward to the content!
Awesome meeting you 2 ! I Love your RT1250 - such a great touring bike and much more ! Don't forget to check out my videos with MOTOJITSU - I think you'll enjoy them ! Continued safe riding on those monster long motorcycle camping and riding tours you so love to do Mr.Iron Butt! Text me for my gear info recomendations. Hope to ride with you in So Cal - next time you hit the West coast. Keep the shiny side up!
this is reinforcing the wrong things about "knee-down" and "cornering". getting your knee to touch the ground is a reward for proper techniques and lines. You don't practice getting your knee down then worry about the corner later. knee downs will come naturally if you're doing the proper things.
I agree with you in principal but that wasn't the point of the training or the exercise. The student's all wanted to get the 'experience' with proper technique in a safe (no traffic / limited danger) environment ie. the training range. If their line was off or they went wide in the corner nobody is getting hurt. Getting them comfortable exploring lean angles, getting off the bike and with correct body position, foot position etc ec was the point. IF they managed to drag a knee - then the jigsaw puzzle pieces came together. For me as an instructor It's all about practice, training and safety. The result will come if you put in the time. Continued safe riding to you.
Sadly there aren't many carparks like this in the UK
I am super lucky to have such an awesome practice-area … try looking at local industrial areas, and business parks that are not busy at the weekends … you might find a good parking lot to practice in! Thank you for watching, please ride safely and come home alive!
@@thebritonabike yeah I've looked. The challenge is finding one where the floor isn't all lumpy and covered in gravel!
Found one recently but was asked to leave by security.
Keep trying, perhaps a local school or college car park? Or maybe ask you local town council or even police HQ, they might have a good suggestion. Tell them that you are safety training and need help finding a suitable location to practice. Don’t give up, Ask and Yee shall receive!
Yeah the uk sucks. Roads are terrible, no where to practice this or wheelies.
This makes me want to go practice (when it warms up in a couple months), I didn't know it was possible at slower speeds like that.
Thanx for watching and continued safe riding!
The best thing about carpark practice like this is you can make a big ol circle, get the angle, HOLD the angle and get comfortable with learning. Most corners are there, then gone and you're only ever in them for the shortest of times. The way i got good with (right hand) cornering was going around this one roundabout on the way home, it was super big and always empty, and it's the only way i truly got comfortably slowly adding more and more learn
Thanks for sharing! Yes I agree finding a big enough open and empty parking lot to practice is a huge challenge. Early Sunday mornings for public parking lots, shopping mall lots, etc etc ..... Mid week I have had success using church parking lots as they are rarely used or busy during the work week. But I always ask permission first, explaining that I am simply looking for a safe location to practice slowly and responsibly. I like the idea of using a huge roundabout to practice .. but the biggest issue is cars and traffic. Continued safe riding to you!
@@thebritonabike thankfully my fav roundabout is typically dead and it helps me practice looking ahead and assessing the road condition. I've been trying my best to up my safety since my crash late last year, first in 6 odd years riding 😅 I've got my partner learning to ride at the very back of the top floor of a big carpark and it's always empty during the weekday arvos
Sorry to hear you had a crash - glad you survived it. Please continue to practice safely and always wear full armored gear for every ride. Survive the ride! @@andrewg4412
I can't find a big enough open car park to turn at the right speed. where is this?
This range is in Santa Clarita California, 20 miles north of Hollywood in Los Angeles.
Great instructions! 👍👍👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Sir can we do perfectly also in naked bikes!..?
Of course - it doesn't matter what bike you ride the technique is the same - here is me on my 'naked' Suzuki VanVan getting my knee down th-cam.com/video/q5fuKX8Mg1I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jHPiWrdYjqmPVF_l and again in my huge BMW K1600 as well. th-cam.com/video/9S3l8slWqFM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=C_Y3pLHRTHLmknZZEnjoy - please ride safely !
Thanks alot sir ❤️
7:00 I like how excited you are for your pupils success :)
I love motorcycles, I love riding motorcycles, but Teaching motorcyclist to ride better and safer is my new passion. Nothing makes me happier. Thank you for watching, please ride safely, keep practicing and come home alive.
*How wide are those circles? Thank you*
Those are 60’ circles! Thanks for the question. Continued safe riding to you.
You mind sharing the make and model, that you can recommend? Thanks @@thebritonabike
three sections i separate into 1 get into a corner. 2 in corner. 3 push off. and practice in various speed, corner angle . then you will get used to right body position and right lean degree of the bike in each familiar corners around your area. doing circle is one practice. but there are many kind of practice to make you feel ease for doing natural. like slalom, cichen, tight u turn, wider u turn. brake lever feel, clutch feel, moment to control when entering the corner, position in corner, throttle control, finding nearest spot to push off. these will make you become natural on doing it.
Great points and comments thank you for sharing. Thank you for watching, please ride safely and come home alive!
Many thanks for your explanation! Watch you from Ukraine.
My pleasure - Please continue to Ride safely - come home alive. Thank you for watching.
I have a question why... does it feel so easy and natural for me to drag my left knee.. but feels so akward and yet not done it in my right knee. Which is a pain because most circuits in uk are clockwise
Great question - the answer is simple - the throttle really requires smooth control ! and that's on your right hand grip ! So you have to counter steer to the right by pushing forward on the throttle whilst maintaining smooth speed and control. It's a lot to manage and to do correctly and it takes a bit of practice to master. Another fun fact is that most cornering accidents happen in right hand turns for the same reason. Here in the USA when you take your motorcycle licensing test ALL of the turns and corners which we evaluate you on are to the right - it is essential to be able to use your throttle smoothly as you corner - especially if you are trying to get your knee down. Continued safe riding to you!
@@thebritonabike thank you. For your time to answer. My position just feels so stiff on right corners. I'll take your advice and try it next time I'm on track
@@bobbifumi2006 Best advice is to watch this: th-cam.com/video/q5fuKX8Mg1I/w-d-xo.html Then go back to the basics as you practice. It's a jigsaw puzzle so take your time and get the all the pieces in place and you'll be comfortably dragging in right hand corners before you know it! Continued safe riding to you.
How do the feet need to be positioned on the footpegs while in an optimal lean angle to get your knee down? Because after looking at photos i have enough lean but i cant get my knee off the gas tank enough and my other foot slips off the peg
I totally understand .. this video will help.If not - reach out to me. Try watching the whole vide for all the tips, but the foot position part is around the 11 minute mark in the video. th-cam.com/video/q5fuKX8Mg1I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=UEO-av9jL90d9KGz
I've been practicing in a big parking lot, it's amazing how far my bike can lean over.
Keep practicing! The more you practice the better and safer you’ll ride. Remember that knee contact with the ground is your gauge that you are at or approaching your maximum safe lean angle.
what gear are they in and what speed?
2nd gear 15 - 25 mph approx. Thanx for the feedback ! Continued safe riding to you!
my thing with knee down is always position of my bike on the road - do i want to be like further to the outside of the corner and then coming over towards the apex?
YOU are absolutely correct ! I teach ALL my students to ONLY use knee down at the track (nothing coming at you) or when you can 100% see all potential oncoming traffic - in the canyons PLEASE stay away from the apex and 'center line' of a 2 way road when you can't see what's coming at you around the next corner .... 2 many cars cut the corners and cross the center line and bikers become road kill in blind corners. Continued safe riding to you !
I've just bought a fireblade, but it scares the hell out of me, I would like to come to one of these schools and learn how to ride a fast bike properly
The Honda Fireblade is a SUPERBIKE - and requires advanced motorcycle skills to be able to ride and handle safely. The best advice I can give you is to seek out professional training, or go to a race school that specializes in teaching riders how to safely ride high performance high horsepower motorcycles. California Superbike School or Yamaha Champs school are both excellent. In the meantime - take it slowly, ride safely, wear ALL your protective gear every time you ride and practice, practice practice.
@@thebritonabike Thanks for the reply, I will definitely take you on your advice, and thanks for the brilliant videos, keep up the good work and thanks again
@@al-azimahmed1188 You are most welcome - if you are in Los Angeles California I will happily train you for free. But you'll have to answer '10 question for Biker' and let me do a review of your Fireblade ! Ride safely.
Truly inspirational! Still waiting to start consuming knee pucks 😄
Thank you for watching, lot’s more getting your knee down videos coming soon. Ride safely and come home alive!
Great Job! Painted lines still scare me.
The more you ride them the less scared you’ll be of them! Thank you for watching, please ride safely and come home alive!
You will only slip for a milasecond..don't be scared...as long as you are loose on the bars.. you will be good!
@@JDSPerformance25 Depend how much your leaning,, if you are at 45 degrees ,huge chance of low side ,always try to avoid the heavy painted lines, and in the wet they are lethal.
I know its an old video but whats the purpose of bringing your knee out? Im able to almost drag my peg with my knee to the tank and leaning
It is true that one reason people drag their knees in corners is to say they can and to have the photos and scuffed knee pucks as evidence of their awesomeness. But, the real reason why knee dragging exists is to provide a lean angle gauge. If your body position is consistent from corner to corner, all day long, then you can reliably use your knee as a measuring device. For street and Canyon use it is absolutely not necessary, fun yes, but not needed. At the track in a race - then knee dragging becomes a necessary skill set for the fastest and those that win races.
Whats the radius of the cones? How far did you put the cones apart for the figure 8?
60ft dia circles with 20ft between them for the figure eight! Safe practicing!
Damn I need to find a place to just do circle stuff honestly
Try a local industrial area - the parking lots are usually pretty empty on a Sunday. Just don't be pulling wheelies and messing around. If police or local security show up just tell them you are practicing safe riding skills away from traffic so that you don't die out on the roads.Thank you for watching and please ride safely - come home alive!
can the painted white lines affect traction?
Under most circumstances it is dangerous to ride on painted lines, so NO braking on painted lines or leaning your bike on painted lines whilst cornering as it is also dangerous for obvious reasons - the paint reduces your available traction. At this parking lot range the concrete surface is new and VERY VERY rough , brushed and textured. So the paint has very little effect on traction so long as riders stay on the throttle and maintain there forward momentum. But to answer your question it is ALWAYS best to avoid braking, swerving or cornering ontop of painted lines. Out in the canyons and public roads pleased do your best to avoid riding ontop of the paint !
@@thebritonabike YEs, that is waht I thought. When I practiced knee down in a parking l lot I avoided painted lines…thx
@@louismartin4446 You are welcome - always remember that your contact patch of rubber is only 4 inches - 2 at the front - 2 at the rear and motorcycle tires (when warm) actually bond by chemical reaction between the tire surface and the asphalt /concrete. That's how we achieve proper traction. ANYTHING between that contact patch that isn't concrete or asphalt will reduce a motorcycles traction. ie. Water , sand, gravel or painted lines.Continued safe riding 2 U !
Does knee down and such requires a certain height ?? Im 5 5 5 6 can i still do??
What motorcycle do you ride ? The taller the motorcycle the harder it will be as it will require more speed and more lean angle. But the same rules and techniques apply. 5'5" of height should be no problem for you with practice and a standard sized motorcycle. But you might have to get your butt off the seat and off to the side a little bit more to compensate for slightly shorter legs. I have a female student who is 5'1" tall who rides a BMW G310R and I have taught her to get her knee down with no problems. Continued safe riding to you.
@@thebritonabike i usually ride my small cc bike the r15 v3 i live in and urban area so not much room for big bikes even the 390 is over power in my area cause of the continuous turns but thanks alott bro huge help.. ride safe thanks..
Where abouts is this filmed
I am based in Los Angeles, California. This training range is in Santa Clarita, about 20 miles North of Hollywood.
@@thebritonabike thats why I've not seen such an open clear carpark in the uk anywhere, lol
@@haiderali-wn1sn I agree empty parking lots and places to train and practice are hard to find. During the week CHURCH parking lots are usually empty, and at the weekends look for lots in business industrial areas that are closed and unused. But always ask permission to practice first.
Where was the video filmed?
Santa Clarita California, about 20 miles North of Hollywood / Los Angeles.
How do they manage it for so long without getting cramp?! If I attempt it for too long (and still unsuccessful) I start to lose feeling in extremities or muscles cramp up.
Does your gear fit you well ? does it allow you to hold the correct body position comfortably ? if NOT ....Stress, fear or anxiety causes tension. If you aren't relaxed then you will get muscle cramps .. it is a very unnatural position to put your body in. Simply put you need to get comfortable with being uncomfortable which just means practice. Best advice I can give is watch my other video ... best of luck. Reach out any time. Stay safe. th-cam.com/video/q5fuKX8Mg1I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IiytvOLGBQxgykml
@@thebritonabike I will, thanks.
This is therapy.
Motorcycling has and always will be YOGA for my soul! Continued safe riding to you.
What radius turns have you set the cones up for?
The wider the circle the easier it will be when practicing - typically I will set 30' or 40' diameter circles but it's all about having smooth throttle control to stabilize the bikes suspension, then good body position, head turn and finally getting your knee out and down. Thanx for watching - ride safely and come home alive!
@@thebritonabike Thanks, now to find a decent bit of tarmac! Hard to find here in Ireland - any carparks that are big enough are viciously cambered so the suspension will be working overtime!
@@frankymacf not if you are smooth on the throttle, set your speed, control your throttle and the camber of the road surface will have minimal effect on your suspension travel and ground clearance. The camber will affect how much lean angle you’ll need in order to actually get you knee down depending if it is positive or negative and the direction you are traveling in …… thanx for watching, ride safely and come home alive!
Wish I could find an empty space to practice this near me
Where are you based? Would absolutely love to come have a go!
Oh damn nevermind lol... Just watched more vids and realised that although your a brit you are actually in the US lol. Great video though! Nice tips and interesting live critique
Los Angeles, CA …. Come out for a Holiday and some free training! Thank you for watching, please ride safely and come home alive!
How awesome!
Thank you for watching ! Continued safe riding to you.
Where can I come and do this ?
I train in Los Angeles CA - up near Six Flags Magic Mountain Theme Park. If you are local message me and I'll add you to the next free training and parking lot practice! Continued safe riding.
God bless you for couching those young men and educating your audience all around the world.
I will try it soon to overcome the fear that is holding me back for 5 years.
Thank you for the compliment - it is much appreciated. This video I made might also help you. th-cam.com/video/q5fuKX8Mg1I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=vJKxx5B2RW3NirRm Good luck with your practicing and I wish you continued safe riding!
You dont need to put your butt all the way back to drag knee you can be up close against the tank and still drag knee
There are many ways to drag a knee but I try to teach the safest and easiest methods in order for my students and new riders to achieve maximum results and success. A lot of it depends on the bike and seat style that you are riding as well. I wish you continued safe riding!
this is the best knee down video. What’s holding me is the fear of scratching my bike.
Thank you so much! I love teaching safe motorcycle riding - just keep practicing, trust your good technique and your HOT tires and wear good armor and gear - you'll get there sooner than you think! Thank you for watching - please keep riding safely and always come home alive.
I once saw a guy with a bmw 1250gs dragging knee and his side cases XD.
A lot of my fellow instructors ride GS 1250's and most if not all can drag a knee on them ! Takes confidence, skill and lots of practice ! Thank you for watching please always ride safely and come home alive!
what caused the crash? sounds like he let off the throttle right before the crash?
Yes - he rolled off the throttle and broke/lost traction in the corner while in a lean. He needed more speed / momentum and maintenance throttle! Fortunately just some scrapes on the bike and a bruised ego ! Thank you for watching and continued safe riding to you.
I’ll try this tomorrow
Wear all your gear, and take it slowly! Build up to dragging with smooth throttle control, stabilize your suspension, good head turns and relaxed upper body. All the instructions and techniques to achieve it are in the video .... too much to write here. But have fun, be safe and let us know how it went!
Osum👌👍
Cheers ! Keep the shiny side up!
Right lads...that’s the knee sorted , now for the elbow!!👀
I'll save that lesson and video for some slightly more advanced students ..LOL!
Where are you based? Do you have a school?😊
Los Angeles - CA - I am an instructor for the California High Way Patrol / CMSP - California Motorcycle Safety Program. Thanx for the positive comment - much appreciated. I wish you continued safe riding!
@@thebritonabike was hoping you would be closer
Far better to book a Trackday and do this at a racetrack. Car parks = cold tyres and a higher chance of dropping the bike
I agree that the track is absolutely the best place to practice getting your knee down, and the best place to use the technique. But tires are only cold if you don't scrub them in and that only takes a few minutes of proper weaving ... thank you for watching, ride safely and come home alive!
I will share this video with Motojitsu himself haha
I am a huge fan of MotoJitsu - have you seen the interviews and riding videos I did with him ? th-cam.com/video/A0mJr009D7I/w-d-xo.html Continued safe riding 2 U !
that r3 exhaust is obnoxious
Yes it is .. but don't be a hater ! Each to there own .. LOL! Thank you for watching - please keep riding safely and always come home alive.
I Once got it down , following everything else
Awesome ! just awesome ! Thanx for the positive comment - much appreciated. I wish you continued safe riding!
went on a clear parking lot and got it down in under 5mins. it's really not a hard thing to do after you get it down the first time
FANTASTIC - congrats ! Glad you enjoyed it - Thanx for watching - stay safe out there on 2 wheels.
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Welcome and thanx for subscribing! Feel free to message me if you have any questions regarding safe riding techniques, gear or motorcycles ! Keep it shiny side up !
why he crashed
He crashed because he wasn't smooth on the throttle and he increased his lean angle without increasing his speed. More lean = more risk. Gravity got the better of him and pushed the bike all the way down! Fortunately no real damage to rider or the bike. Thanx for the feedback ! Continued safe riding to you!
Great way to learn to trust your bike. Noobs won't realise they can lean so much more on the bike.
That skill comes form confidence and practice and having decent tires under you! Thank you for watching please always ride safely and come home alive!
@@thebritonabike how would you recommend adjusting rear sets for better maneuverability and easier knee down?
I have Bonamici rear sets and in still trying to find the perfect position.
@@VirtuosoX1 Best video to understand the' rear set' process is here: th-cam.com/video/0bYgspw1ry0/w-d-xo.html I would advise having the bike up on a rear paddock stand first - well centered and balanced - have another person help support and balance the bike as you sit on it - then set up and adjust your body position for correct knee position to the tank and foot position to the pegs. It's all about a correct comfortable fit - you to the bike and the bike to you. The more comfortable you are = the more control you will have of the bike and that will mean your are safer. Stay safe out there on 2 wheels! This is another excellent video for you. th-cam.com/video/YYeHvMQdMs4/w-d-xo.html
Team yamaha
They make great bikes - don't they! Thanks for the sub! Thank you for watching. Ride safely and come home alive!
ooh the Yamaha was dropped and not by the owner. That must be a bit embarrassing.
Indeed - but we discussed the possibility of drops, and bumps and scratches so the owner was cool about it - embarrassing for the instructor who dropped it ! Just glad the bike had frame sliders on it which took all of the hit - bike was undamaged. Best of luck & Continued safe riding to you.
Nice 1250
Thank you ! It's a great motorcycle. Thank you for watching and please ride safely - come home alive!
Yeah, getting the knee down for newbs is sooo important... Oh wait.
I agree completely… getting a knee down as a new rider is not important at all, but as an instructor if that’s what my student wants to learn I will happily teach them in a safe, controlled environment, where they can practice and achieve there goal safely. It’s no different from wanting to learn how to pull a wheelie or ride fast canyon corners whilst trail braking …. None of these riding skills are important for new riders to learn …. But if you want to learn the ‘how’ It’s my job to teach …. But safely. Thanks for watching. Ride safely and come home alive!
@@thebritonabike Keep sayin' it, man!