it is so frustrating that channels like this has fewer subscribers and views than wheelies and speeding channels.....you do a great job man, and keep the videos coming!
@@MotoJitsu Do you get access because you're an instructor or because you're prior service? Also, Thank you for this. I did the old MSF courses years ago, and after about 5 years with only a bike and no car I became "the fastest person I knew" (Danger danger danger) till I took Jason Pridmore's STAR track school and realized how slow and awkward I really was. (and my body position was EXACTLY what you called out as the most common mistake) I'm now 41, a re-entry rider, and was going to hit Reg's CLASS school to start correcting. Do you think it would be a better idea to run through the Total Control schools first? And if so, for someone who's just up in Ventura, once the plague is over, would any total control school be good, or might there be a benefit to bipping down the 5 and taking one in SD with your crew? Thanks for all the great info. You're saving lives =)
@@jamesbarros950 Being an instructor doesn't get you access unless you teach on base and have a pass. I was in the Marines 11 years so I have a VA card that gets me access and someone who's active duty can just get me on too by sponsoring me...literally coming on base with me saying he's with me and I just show my drivers license. I also recommend the Total Control courses, Intermediate Riding Clinic & Advanced Riding Clinics 1 & 2.
@@MotoJitsu Nice spot. Up here in Orange County, almost all the parking lots around are slippery slurry coated which makes for less than ideal grip. Found one big concrete loading dock area behind a big store where grip is good and got my knee down for the first time.
At 11.33 you even see moto- journalists in bike magazines doing this, and these guys ride bikes for a living. You see people throw their hips over but their head & shoulders are still inboard. I love the calm way in which you educate without hurting people's feelings as lord knows we've all made these errors.
Hey man, Just finished my first successful city/traffic ride today and I just wanna give you thanks. Followed all your advice and techniques and it worked like magic. Just rode my scooter which isnt much but hey the ride is all that matters. Keep up the good work man, Respect, all the way from the Philippines
I remember commenting a while back about the anxiety of uphill stops and slow speed turns, practiced your videos a lot and now onto this, thanks a million for helping us all out!
It’s sad. I’ve asked myself the same question many times. All this content, and knowledge that he’s spitting out, everyone on two wheels should be subscribed to his channel and should be watching his videos religiously. Either they don’t know about him (doubt it), they watch the videos and haven’t subscribed (haters not showing love), or riders believe they are as, or more talented than he is and won’t watch his videos. Those that want to learn and want to be safer, and better riders will do so by doing whatever it takes. Mr. Widmar makes it easy to learn with his tutorials. They are cheat sheets. If you listen and follow the lessons to the tee, then we will improve our skills steadily. It doesn’t affect me at all whether he has subs or not, but reading comments like yours makes me hopeful he will continue to pump out knowledge. I’m hoping he won’t stop because his channel isn’t growing. I can’t imagine the time, money, and effort it takes him to do this for the riding community. Whoever is reading this, spread the love.
This is exactly the explanation that I need. I’m focussing on this in practice just to have a better body position. This is not something that I plan to do on the road. Thx! Still too much snow here...
i have learned so much from you and since one month i am trying to learn knee down. This video was very very helpful. I realized many of my mistakes from this video. Plus watching your techniques gives me confidence to practice more because now i know right technique just gotta practice more!
Yeah, like the comments below, I was stuck in operation centers in ME/CA and watching your videos got me back into riding whilst on vacation. Much appreciated. And to speak about other content providers discussing whether teaching people how to position their body and how to get their knee and elbow down, I am guessing that being a prior Marine and learning how to shoot to the full extent of the rifle and cartridge to attain one's inherent potential (Rogers, Fromm). Now you teach people how to ride to their fullest potential...in a parking lot while encouraging people to do track days. Kudos.
Excellent video my man. Lee Parks would be proud! I've been riding for 35 years. I've travelled all over the country and I've spent weeks in the Appalachians, the Dragon, I spent a week in the Rockies hunting the best roads, I've regularly done the canyons in California, Arizona, Utah and I thought I was pretty good. I took Total Control and I couldn't believe what bad habits I discovered that I had developed over the years. My personal biggest issue was moving into position too late for the turn and upsetting the chassis. I didn't even realize I was doing it. TC was the single best training day I've ever done, it's fun and I don't care how good you think you are, it will challenge you. I think everyone that rides on the road should take this course. Your video just made me want to go practice. Thanks for the video.
I have been struggling with body position on the track, this helped out a ton. I was too far up and would rotate around the tank destabilizing my lower body. Sitting all the way back, fixed the problem. Back to parking lot practice we go.
It's so satisfying to watch you sliding the knee and doing the transitions..... I really want to to it too, so I'll be working on it ! thank you for all your explanations !
Thanks so much MotoJitsu for all the videos and tips. I found you 15,000kms ago, with my new 125cc (no experience), now, with my Honda VT600C, I feel so comfortable riding.
You Sir are a complete God. Not because you can get your knee down.., but because of your fantastic manner through the video. When I first started watching, the mirror sunnies, hoodie and your reading from the paper in your hand made me wonder if you were going to be a bit flash. But your coaching ability and presentation were incredible. So calm. So comfortable. So inspiring. Very good work young sir.., sharing with all my friends so they can hopefully enjoy as much as I did
This man looks like he can help you to pass your exam and teach you stunts at the same time lol. Good stuff, I've been watching your videos for a while now. Can you upload cruiser motorcycle specific videos?
Fantastic video. I watch it dozens of times before I go out to practice. I seem to have a problem getting my speed up. (I'm an old chicken.) I think I have way too much tension in my arms and hands which I am trying to relax as I do this. I'm trying to focus on holding myself on the bike with just my legs and relaxing my hands/arms. You make it look really easy. My vision and body position are good. My big problem is getting my speed up without causing my backside to pucker.
Thanks again! You have an excellent way of explaining things.. what you said about getting your body position setup the right way first was key for me. I can now get my knee down on any bike even cruisers just like you 🦾
Hi, and thank you for your effort teaching us . If I must look fwd with my head and chin looking to thr exite of the corner or the round about, and by saying we have to keep our speed constant. so I have to look down the gauge ,to see my speed. how can I manage to do both, looking at the exite and to look down at the speed gauge ¡¡¡¡. Thank you
You're welcome! You don't do anything I say in this video at a roundabout or corner...this is how to practice knee down...you don't do this on public roads. You slow keep increasing your speed when practicing.
A friend of mine advised me to, when leaning, to pressure the peg opposite to the direction of lean, in order to gain more traction. So, for example, if you lean left hard, you pressure the right peg hard and the left one lightly. He told me this is REALLY important when riding in the rain, but also works in good weather conditions. Can you confirm this ?
Hi, Eddy Where is your weight on when the motorcycle is leaned ? On the inside peg or you keep your self pushing the outside leg against the tank? or boh? Sorry for my English :)
Great vid, thank you. I’m a beginner and trying to practice these turns on a 250 cc trail bike with knobs tires. Feeling uneasy leaning, and having a hard time committing to the sharp angle. How much tire traction am I compromising with thee tires? Any advise will be greatly appreciated.
Another great video, Greg. Your channel has for me become the go-to for motorcycling instruction and tips, whether basic or advanced. One ask, though: would you consider using a remote microphone attached to your body, to get better audio? An easy way is to record the audio into your phone and sync it up with the video in post. This would work well for you as most of your work is done in a single take.
Thanks, Greg. Very informative. I find it interesting, and curious, as to why so many riders (myself included) are so much more comfortable with left radius circles than right-hand ones. I asked my MSF instructor at an advanced rider course the same question and he could not answer it. My guess is that we, as riders, tend to tense up too much on the throttle side, which lends itself to making right-hand radius circles more difficult to perform/master. Interested to know your thoughts. Thanks.
I found it’s usually because when you want to go right, you push right. But you can also pull left, it does the same thing, correct? So if you push right to initial a right hand turn, your hand also may add or release the throttle a bit. So your right hand is doing two jobs, steering and throttle/brake control. Whenever I go right, I pull left. That leaves my right hand to only worry about one thing vs two.
Love these tips. I've never practised doing these at low speed but stupidly did it quite a lot at high speeds and almost touched my knee to the ground. It felt brilliant but it scared the shit out of me at the same time, mainly because I didn't really know how I did it. Like that saying, trying to run before you can walk. There's good and bad with that, it's like doing something by feeling, which is good, but having no understanding of how you did it, that's bad and could be super dangerous. And when you mentioned the disconnect, that reminds me of people who say that they're animal lovers, while stuffing their faces with a bacon sandwich. The disconnect with the supply and demand problem of the meat & dairy industry.
Great video. I race on the ice, and have been struggling to gain speed, especially in corners. This video will help me try to bring the supermoto world, on the ice. Traction is very good with the tires we run, so i think i can pull this off.
I'll say this is one of the best videos I've seen on YT on the subject, you emphasize technique, then results. Other videos I've seen just say get off the bike more.
I am hopeful that I can do this...I get confidence watching your videos. I have learned so much already. This video is awesome...i'm slowly building toward this goal of doin' it right.
Excellent demonstration! The best way to make sure you get it right, is to know what you are not supposed to do. I wonder what sort of lean angle you roughly have at 13:47?
Easy enough to estimate by eye. The camera looks to be level based on the background. So somewhere around the 45° mark for the bike down the centre. Contact patch to CoG will differ slightly because he's hanging off.
Thanks Eddie for the vids...this will be hard to believe but I watch your vids religiously and bought your books doing drills. when I got to learning in knee-drags... I did it within 30mins .... I have sent you a few of my vids on insta doing drills.... thank u so much.. my throttle control is nuts and upper body my relaxed... will send u another vid soon. And happy birthday by the way ahahaha..
Thanks for this. What I am wondering: suppose one messes up and either goes to fast, to slow or the bike loses grip at some point. Is it possible to come back from those situationis? I mean are there actions one can take?
Great video again. Even more informative than the first one I watched when you used the sportbike. One point I'm wondering about: tire temp. Tight circles on cruisers, scraping floorboards, temp was never mentioned. However, on sport tires, making sure they are up to temp has been drilled in my head since the late 90's. Even now I don't dare tilt my horizon too much until after several miles on a ride. At these low speeds, does tire warm up matter?
Thanks for the instruction. I want to get better at cornering so I am safer on the street and work towards track days. What courses in the Austin, TX area do you recommend?
You're welcome! I just tried to find a link but I don't remember but there's a place. Go to totalcontroltraining.net and find their number and ask what courses are near you.
Thank you so much for this video, I've had these concepts in my head but feel unable to get to the bp I need. I am overconfident with lean angle and this put things into perspective. Appreciated
This video is perfect! I've been looking for a good video where this concept is broken down into simple steps and this nails it. Thanks! How does this technique compare to the supermoto style of riding, where you put your butt to the outside of the seat and lean the bike down with your inside foot feeling the ground? Any chance you could do a video on that style of cornering? The DRZ is the perfect bike for it!
Hi, I hear is dangerous that knee touch the ground the whole time while cornering, knee should left up when it touch the ground? I found no answer online to support, can you care to explain? Thanks
Keep up your work! It's easy to understand even in a foreign language and helps me to avoid some stupidity I've done again and again over the years. Greetings from Black Forest. Ride safe and stay healthy!
Great tutorial. You’re absolutely right about the three common mistakes that people make, because I see it all the time, one of which I was guilty of when I was first learning. 🤙🏽
this helps me so much. I have been riding 20mph and tried so hard to get knee down! I guess I lean the bike too much and low sided couple times. it seems I need a little more speed while maintenaning the circle. I will get some cones and start trying again.
@@MotoJitsu wow thanks for responding. which level of Patreon can send you some photos/videos for some feedback? I think I need some advising instead of trying it out myself. I may never get it right without masters help. And this panic is killing my opportunity to register for courses, everywhere is closed.
44 yrs of riding and I still learn from you. I am a safe driver, never crashed. I took safety courses in the military. But I am learning how to go faster and still be safe from you. Thanks. Free courses haha
Thanks for this video, it is perfectly explained! However I am still concerned about the rear tire... how do you make sure it is warm enough, or you are not leaning too far so it will slip?
Awesome video. Why? It offers great advice on HOW to practice, not just WHAT to practice. The learning process is iterative, and so when the training matches that it REALLY helps. "just go left, go slow, don't expect your knee to get down right away, etc.. etc.. etc.." Beautiful.
Thanks for this really informative demonstration Greg. I've learned a lot from it but would really like / appreciate a similar video on gravel using the same DR659 bike. I have one myself and still trying to gain confidence on gravel. Always been on road bikes before so this is new for me, and many other riders I'm sure. Would like to know if that technique you presented so well is exactly the same on gravel or not, given the different surface properties of gravel vs tarmac. Thanks in advance.
Got my knee down after hours of frustration at the parking lot taday. That first time it touched was awesome, then it touched again. Some time later I could get it to slide continuously, then I learned going to the right. I set up a smaller circle and got to the point of doing figure 8s with my butt all the way off the bike still at this point. I tried half a butt cheek off and it felt more controlled, although I had to lean the bike a little more. I wen't from not being able to do it at all to sliding figure 8s in a single day, thanks to your videos!
Well I rode 45 mins just to get to this place, so they're warmed up...but even if I didn't, wouldn't of mattered for me since I've mastered how to do this. MotoJitsu.com for my new app, books, merch, etc.
Thanks for the videos! This may be a stupid question, but wondering why put your knee down at all? What’s the purpose of it? Does it stabilize the bike in a high speed turn or something like that? I don’t ride super hard and have never been on a track, but anytime I take a corner fast (for me) my instinct is to tuck my knee into the bike so it DOSEN’T touch the ground. I know it’s cool to knee drag but I think dragging any body part on the payment would freak me out a little lol.
You’re welcome. What’s the point of learning how to get your knee down? #1 because it’s fun! You don’t need any other reason than that but there are benefits. #2 Learning to do this provides a way to be comfortable being uncomfortable. It teaches you how to do something that’s challenging, which can be applied to any aspect of your life. Learning and practicing full body position (which may result in knee down) gives you a lot of confidence with yourself and your bike, it teaches you what your bike is capable of, you learn various levels of grip with your tires and current levels of traction, you’ll understand how leaning causes motorcycle to slow down, so you need to slightly increase throttle the more you lean in order to maintain your speed. This is a great way to practice your vision, staying relaxed, committing to a goal, building muscle memory-you’ll learn how the timing of when and how much you move your body makes a difference in how the bike handles. You’ll discover where your fear threshold is, where to place your weight, what’s comfortable for you, etc. If you never learn how to do this or even attempt it, you’ll never understand the difficulty and benefits it will provide. Go practice and see. Set up a 40-50ft diameter circle & get to it. Last, when you go to a track day (where this is the most relevant) you can focus more on other aspects of track riding since you’ve already spent time with body position.
This is for the track...has nothing to do with street riding...on the street, I barely move my body at all, if ever. Learning every tool you can...full body position, dirt, supermoto, etc. etc. only adds to your overall experience and gives you more understanding of how and what various techniques work in different situations.
Hi there MotoJitsu, that's a great goal or milestone to achieve, the figure eight, I can also see,theres a lot of aspects to getting the knee down correctly, thank you again friend 🙂🙂🙂
I love your videos, I've learned a lot, and learned a lot of things to practice. So much more interesting watching videos to learn the right way to ride, than fast highway pulls, and wheelies. That's just stupid.
You are doing great job for all young and old riders! Thanks, guys from Poland are watching You either and learnig with all Your video courses! Take care never stop! :-)
Greetings from Philippines!🇵🇭 I'm really learning a lot from your videos. I just want to ask if you're still doing counter steering in this kind of lean😅😅 I'm still a newbie😅
I wish you was located in New York. I would happily pay for your service and knowledge. But I guess watching your videos will do for me. Thank You Sir! Oh and I'm going on the 28th for my license wish me luck. But I am confident enough cause of you....THANK YOU THANK YOU..
I’m curious… Is it better to get knee to the ground for the sake of it Or Better to slowly ease ur into dragging the knee when you hit a certain lean angle?
Awesome. I've still not gotten my knee down for the first time. I've been working on the fundamentals. I hope i haven't lost too much technique by spring. Don't want to spend the whole season getting back to where i was at the end of fall.
4;04 i was doing that today while practicing in the lot. As I set my body up like you told me in another lean video, it actually caused the bike to lean a lot less because I’m not pushing the bike down today. I was trying to get the bike lower by keeping myself up right and pushing the bike down. But after watching your other lean video, I got my body set the way you showed me, and my body was turned in, leaned off, head over, arms down and relaxed esc esc, and the bike was way up then, I’m having the curve good but with body leaned in and over the bike was hardly even leaned. But I worked and worked and started getting the bike leaning with me with more speed (Amd I tightened my circle) and finally got more lean today than I have yet. And my knee was almost touching, even tho the bike wasn’t even leaned that far it seemed
@@MotoJitsu you suggest I do the foot forward bike lean while body more up straight instead? And of course not take corners too fast. While on the road.
@@MotoJitsu Thank you for the input. I'll stick too taking it slow around corners and using the foot out forward bike lean method. I look forward to seeing your future videos keep up the good work!
Thank you so much for yours video. When do you do Body, Head, Bike on corner like on this video, do you push your external feet down? Sorry for my English. Appreciated your job.
@@MotoJitsu I think I asked wrong. When you move the buttock and make a triangle in the inner leg (during a large bend), the weight of the body rests on both footrests?
Once youve got you and the bike leaning, how do you get back up. i know the bike comes up firstbut how do you make the bike come up before your own body?
Very nice. Now how do you find your maximum speed knee dragin? You are so tall, that you dragged, but your bike was still at 45°, so you could lean more and go faster, depending on your tire and suspension. If you lean too far, is there a shudder in the tire, a slight slip, or does it just let go? What tire does let got first under constant throttle? I am not asking for a crash video, I just try to benefit from your experience. 😅
That will be my next drill to begin to use my sliders ! I like the method, by increasing the speed step by step until the knew touches the ground. Very informative ! PS : I appreciate the fact that you mention to "clean" the area. Sometimes, there are tiny rocks (1 inch) on parking area and could make you destabilize when leaning. I always check now before a drill.
Probably been asked before. But thoughts with the Lee Parks, knee sliders in jeans? Some say it’s a death trap from jeans catching the ground or twisting the pant? I have been wanting to buy a set of sliders for training. But I only have Motorcylce jeans.
I love your videos so much, they have helped me a lot especially with body positioning. I did what you said in this video and practiced for hours in a parking lot but still can’t get me knee down. I think I’m going fast enough and have proper body position but no luck 🤷♂️
need someone to watch you who really knows what they're doing to give you feedback...if you can, take a course that teaches full body position. If you were doing what I said in the video, it will happen naturally.
Great explanation and great vid as usual. Learned a lot of these and are helpful to practice. Where i live (Belgium) the parking lots are not as big and usually overfull by daytime when the malls are open. So wait when they are free and then it's practice time. Thx!!
www.leeparksdesign.com for the pucs (and gloves) & totalcontroltraining.net for the course :)
Can you do this technique on a higher cc bike though? Let's say a versys 650/1000?
@@horaceroy4370 bike doesn't matter
MotoJitsu® thanks! Was just trying to clarify haha! Your videos are very educational, you sir gained a sub! :D
I think these videos are much more fun to watch then people doing wheelies and stuff .. this makes safer riders! .. keep up the great work !
thanks!
Stunt riding is a great way to learn the limits of traction and just general bike control but yes, basics are basics and theyre important
Can Greg wheelie?
Thats because you cant wheelie but you can pretend to be fast
agreed!
it is so frustrating that channels like this has fewer subscribers and views than wheelies and speeding channels.....you do a great job man, and keep the videos coming!
thanks
Channels like this, Canyon Chasers, Moto Trek, etc. don't ever get the views they deserve.
I'm so jealous of the parkinglots you have over there lol
This is a dedicated motorcycle training area on Marine base Camp Pendelton
MotoJitsu absolutely more jealous of that jaja
@@MotoJitsu Do you get access because you're an instructor or because you're prior service?
Also, Thank you for this. I did the old MSF courses years ago, and after about 5 years with only a bike and no car I became "the fastest person I knew" (Danger danger danger) till I took Jason Pridmore's STAR track school and realized how slow and awkward I really was. (and my body position was EXACTLY what you called out as the most common mistake) I'm now 41, a re-entry rider, and was going to hit Reg's CLASS school to start correcting. Do you think it would be a better idea to run through the Total Control schools first? And if so, for someone who's just up in Ventura, once the plague is over, would any total control school be good, or might there be a benefit to bipping down the 5 and taking one in SD with your crew?
Thanks for all the great info. You're saving lives =)
@@jamesbarros950 Being an instructor doesn't get you access unless you teach on base and have a pass. I was in the Marines 11 years so I have a VA card that gets me access and someone who's active duty can just get me on too by sponsoring me...literally coming on base with me saying he's with me and I just show my drivers license. I also recommend the Total Control courses, Intermediate Riding Clinic & Advanced Riding Clinics 1 & 2.
@@MotoJitsu Nice spot. Up here in Orange County, almost all the parking lots around are slippery slurry coated which makes for less than ideal grip. Found one big concrete loading dock area behind a big store where grip is good and got my knee down for the first time.
At 11.33 you even see moto- journalists in bike magazines doing this, and these guys ride bikes for a living. You see people throw their hips over but their head & shoulders are still inboard. I love the calm way in which you educate without hurting people's feelings as lord knows we've all made these errors.
thanks
Hey man, Just finished my first successful city/traffic ride today and I just wanna give you thanks. Followed all your advice and techniques and it worked like magic. Just rode my scooter which isnt much but hey the ride is all that matters.
Keep up the good work man,
Respect, all the way from the Philippines
Awesome
I remember commenting a while back about the anxiety of uphill stops and slow speed turns, practiced your videos a lot and now onto this, thanks a million for helping us all out!
How do you only have 122k subs? You're a god. Thanks for all the videos you make!
Slowly gaining more :)
its like FortNine he eventually gets more ;) youtube is always weird
It’s sad. I’ve asked myself the same question many times. All this content, and knowledge that he’s spitting out, everyone on two wheels should be subscribed to his channel and should be watching his videos religiously. Either they don’t know about him (doubt it), they watch the videos and haven’t subscribed (haters not showing love), or riders believe they are as, or more talented than he is and won’t watch his videos. Those that want to learn and want to be safer, and better riders will do so by doing whatever it takes. Mr. Widmar makes it easy to learn with his tutorials. They are cheat sheets. If you listen and follow the lessons to the tee, then we will improve our skills steadily. It doesn’t affect me at all whether he has subs or not, but reading comments like yours makes me hopeful he will continue to pump out knowledge. I’m hoping he won’t stop because his channel isn’t growing. I can’t imagine the time, money, and effort it takes him to do this for the riding community. Whoever is reading this, spread the love.
It's because stupidity hates knowledge 😂
You have one of the best motorcycle training and safety channels on TH-cam. I've been riding 35 years and have picked up a few things from you.
Thanks! Get into more training!! MotoJitsu.com/courses
I've been riding 50 years. That means nothing I say that just means I have reinforced my bad habits for a long time!
This is exactly the explanation that I need.
I’m focussing on this in practice just to have a better body position.
This is not something that I plan to do on the road.
Thx!
Still too much snow here...
I’m glad! I think it’ll help a lot of people
감사합니다.
i have learned so much from you and since one month i am trying to learn knee down. This video was very very helpful. I realized many of my mistakes from this video. Plus watching your techniques gives me confidence to practice more because now i know right technique just gotta practice more!
Great to hear!
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Yeah, like the comments below, I was stuck in operation centers in ME/CA and watching your videos got me back into riding whilst on vacation. Much appreciated. And to speak about other content providers discussing whether teaching people how to position their body and how to get their knee and elbow down, I am guessing that being a prior Marine and learning how to shoot to the full extent of the rifle and cartridge to attain one's inherent potential (Rogers, Fromm). Now you teach people how to ride to their fullest potential...in a parking lot while encouraging people to do track days. Kudos.
Excellent video my man. Lee Parks would be proud! I've been riding for 35 years. I've travelled all over the country and I've spent weeks in the Appalachians, the Dragon, I spent a week in the Rockies hunting the best roads, I've regularly done the canyons in California, Arizona, Utah and I thought I was pretty good. I took Total Control and I couldn't believe what bad habits I discovered that I had developed over the years. My personal biggest issue was moving into position too late for the turn and upsetting the chassis. I didn't even realize I was doing it. TC was the single best training day I've ever done, it's fun and I don't care how good you think you are, it will challenge you. I think everyone that rides on the road should take this course. Your video just made me want to go practice. Thanks for the video.
Thanks!
I have been struggling with body position on the track, this helped out a ton. I was too far up and would rotate around the tank destabilizing my lower body. Sitting all the way back, fixed the problem. Back to parking lot practice we go.
Awesome!
4:22 that’s my new dance move
😂
I dying :''''D
It's so satisfying to watch you sliding the knee and doing the transitions..... I really want to to it too, so I'll be working on it ! thank you for all your explanations !
you're welcome!
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Thanks so much MotoJitsu for all the videos and tips. I found you 15,000kms ago, with my new 125cc (no experience), now, with my Honda VT600C, I feel so comfortable riding.
You're welcome!
I got my first bike 4 days ago, this is a great explanation to start with.
Thanks bro!
👌🏼😁
This is the clearest explanation on how to get a good body position when cornering. Thank you so much!
Thanks! Share it!!!!
You Sir are a complete God.
Not because you can get your knee down.., but because of your fantastic manner through the video. When I first started watching, the mirror sunnies, hoodie and your reading from the paper in your hand made me wonder if you were going to be a bit flash.
But your coaching ability and presentation were incredible.
So calm.
So comfortable.
So inspiring.
Very good work young sir.., sharing with all my friends so they can hopefully enjoy as much as I did
This man looks like he can help you to pass your exam and teach you stunts at the same time lol. Good stuff, I've been watching your videos for a while now. Can you upload cruiser motorcycle specific videos?
Thanks! Share it with others :) My videos apply to all bikes.
Fantastic video. I watch it dozens of times before I go out to practice. I seem to have a problem getting my speed up. (I'm an old chicken.) I think I have way too much tension in my arms and hands which I am trying to relax as I do this. I'm trying to focus on holding myself on the bike with just my legs and relaxing my hands/arms. You make it look really easy. My vision and body position are good. My big problem is getting my speed up without causing my backside to pucker.
Thanks again! You have an excellent way of explaining things.. what you said about getting your body position setup the right way first was key for me. I can now get my knee down on any bike even cruisers just like you 🦾
Glad it was helpful!
Hi, and thank you for your effort teaching us . If I must look fwd with my head and chin looking to thr exite of the corner or the round about, and by saying we have to keep our speed constant. so I have to look down the gauge ,to see my speed. how can I manage to do both, looking at the exite and to look down at the speed gauge ¡¡¡¡. Thank you
You're welcome! You don't do anything I say in this video at a roundabout or corner...this is how to practice knee down...you don't do this on public roads. You slow keep increasing your speed when practicing.
A friend of mine advised me to, when leaning, to pressure the peg opposite to the direction of lean, in order to gain more traction. So, for example, if you lean left hard, you pressure the right peg hard and the left one lightly. He told me this is REALLY important when riding in the rain, but also works in good weather conditions.
Can you confirm this ?
It’s personal preference if that’s what you like sure but I found it to be a waste of energy and pointless. I don’t do anything with my outside leg
@@MotoJitsu So where do you hold your own weight ? Do you just hang loose and pressure both pegs equally ?
On the street, nothing I don’t my lower body at all
Hi, Eddy Where is your weight on when the motorcycle is leaned ? On the inside peg or you keep your self pushing the outside leg against the tank? or boh? Sorry for my English :)
Mostly on the seat & inside peg none on the outside
You are just a Sensei of motorcyles and riders... thank you so much bro !
thanks!
Great vid, thank you. I’m a beginner and trying to practice these turns on a 250 cc trail bike with knobs tires. Feeling uneasy
leaning, and having a hard time committing to the sharp angle. How much tire traction am I compromising with thee tires?
Any advise will be greatly appreciated.
@motojitsu, what knee sliders are you using? There does not seem to be any options out there other than icon cloverleaf 2 currently.
These videos never get old. watching two years later and it still very informative
Another great video, Greg. Your channel has for me become the go-to for motorcycling instruction and tips, whether basic or advanced. One ask, though: would you consider using a remote microphone attached to your body, to get better audio? An easy way is to record the audio into your phone and sync it up with the video in post. This would work well for you as most of your work is done in a single take.
thanks!
I read some of your fan comments and I see I am perhaps an expert rider. I still gain knowledge from your videos. Thanks
lol
Thanks, Greg. Very informative. I find it interesting, and curious, as to why so many riders (myself included) are so much more comfortable with left radius circles than right-hand ones. I asked my MSF instructor at an advanced rider course the same question and he could not answer it. My guess is that we, as riders, tend to tense up too much on the throttle side, which lends itself to making right-hand radius circles more difficult to perform/master. Interested to know your thoughts. Thanks.
I found it’s usually because when you want to go right, you push right. But you can also pull left, it does the same thing, correct? So if you push right to initial a right hand turn, your hand also may add or release the throttle a bit. So your right hand is doing two jobs, steering and throttle/brake control. Whenever I go right, I pull left. That leaves my right hand to only worry about one thing vs two.
Love these tips. I've never practised doing these at low speed but stupidly did it quite a lot at high speeds and almost touched my knee to the ground. It felt brilliant but it scared the shit out of me at the same time, mainly because I didn't really know how I did it. Like that saying, trying to run before you can walk. There's good and bad with that, it's like doing something by feeling, which is good, but having no understanding of how you did it, that's bad and could be super dangerous.
And when you mentioned the disconnect, that reminds me of people who say that they're animal lovers, while stuffing their faces with a bacon sandwich. The disconnect with the supply and demand problem of the meat & dairy industry.
Yes I don't recommending practicing this unless you take high level courses.
Great video. I race on the ice, and have been struggling to gain speed, especially in corners. This video will help me try to bring the supermoto world, on the ice. Traction is very good with the tires we run, so i think i can pull this off.
thanks
I'll say this is one of the best videos I've seen on YT on the subject, you emphasize technique, then results. Other videos I've seen just say get off the bike more.
I really enjoyed this ! Thanks
I am hopeful that I can do this...I get confidence watching your videos. I have learned so much already. This video is awesome...i'm slowly building toward this goal of doin' it right.
Take a course that teaches it then go out and practice in an area with good grip on a warm day :)
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge and experience. Much appreciated.
My pleasure!
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Excellent demonstration! The best way to make sure you get it right, is to know what you are not supposed to do. I wonder what sort of lean angle you roughly have at 13:47?
Thanks! I have no idea lol
Easy enough to estimate by eye. The camera looks to be level based on the background. So somewhere around the 45° mark for the bike down the centre. Contact patch to CoG will differ slightly because he's hanging off.
Thanks Eddie for the vids...this will be hard to believe but I watch your vids religiously and bought your books doing drills. when I got to learning in knee-drags... I did it within 30mins .... I have sent you a few of my vids on insta doing drills.... thank u so much.. my throttle control is nuts and upper body my relaxed... will send u another vid soon. And happy birthday by the way ahahaha..
thanks!
thank you so much for all the lessons.. but i have a question, whats the difference leaning on a spoked wheel vs alloy wheels?
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Thanks for this. What I am wondering: suppose one messes up and either goes to fast, to slow or the bike loses grip at some point. Is it possible to come back from those situationis? I mean are there actions one can take?
How do we adjust the direction (diameter of circle/ arch) while in the circle? Do we counter steer ? Add more lean ? Shift more weight inside ?
either one...there's no wrong. All 3 could work.
Great video again. Even more informative than the first one I watched when you used the sportbike. One point I'm wondering about: tire temp. Tight circles on cruisers, scraping floorboards, temp was never mentioned. However, on sport tires, making sure they are up to temp has been drilled in my head since the late 90's. Even now I don't dare tilt my horizon too much until after several miles on a ride. At these low speeds, does tire warm up matter?
Depends on what you're doing...u-turns, eh. Emergency braking? Yes warm them up. Knee down practice? Yes warm them up.
@@MotoJitsu Lima Charlie, thanks
Thanks for the instruction. I want to get better at cornering so I am safer on the street and work towards track days. What courses in the Austin, TX area do you recommend?
You're welcome! I just tried to find a link but I don't remember but there's a place. Go to totalcontroltraining.net and find their number and ask what courses are near you.
Thank you so much for this video, I've had these concepts in my head but feel unable to get to the bp I need. I am overconfident with lean angle and this put things into perspective. Appreciated
You're welcome!
Cool teacher! You are the best . Thank you very much for your teaching.
Thanks 😊
This video is perfect! I've been looking for a good video where this concept is broken down into simple steps and this nails it. Thanks!
How does this technique compare to the supermoto style of riding, where you put your butt to the outside of the seat and lean the bike down with your inside foot feeling the ground? Any chance you could do a video on that style of cornering? The DRZ is the perfect bike for it!
Thanks! Yes, watch this. th-cam.com/video/9gEyXo2iqIo/w-d-xo.html
Hi, I hear is dangerous that knee touch the ground the whole time while cornering, knee should left up when it touch the ground? I found no answer online to support, can you care to explain? Thanks
Keep up your work! It's easy to understand even in a foreign language and helps me to avoid some stupidity I've done again and again over the years. Greetings from Black Forest. Ride safe and stay healthy!
thanks!
Great tutorial. You’re absolutely right about the three common mistakes that people make, because I see it all the time, one of which I was guilty of when I was first learning. 🤙🏽
You are a great coach sir. I appreciate it
Thanks
this helps me so much. I have been riding 20mph and tried so hard to get knee down! I guess I lean the bike too much and low sided couple times. it seems I need a little more speed while maintenaning the circle. I will get some cones and start trying again.
Need better body position most likely
@@MotoJitsu wow thanks for responding. which level of Patreon can send you some photos/videos for some feedback? I think I need some advising instead of trying it out myself. I may never get it right without masters help. And this panic is killing my opportunity to register for courses, everywhere is closed.
44 yrs of riding and I still learn from you. I am a safe driver, never crashed. I took safety courses in the military. But I am learning how to go faster and still be safe from you. Thanks. Free courses haha
:) nice!
Thanks for this video, it is perfectly explained! However I am still concerned about the rear tire... how do you make sure it is warm enough, or you are not leaning too far so it will slip?
You warm it up....slowly add speed
Awesome video. Why? It offers great advice on HOW to practice, not just WHAT to practice. The learning process is iterative, and so when the training matches that it REALLY helps. "just go left, go slow, don't expect your knee to get down right away, etc.. etc.. etc.." Beautiful.
Thanks :)
Thanks for this really informative demonstration Greg. I've learned a lot from it but would really like / appreciate a similar video on gravel using the same DR659 bike. I have one myself and still trying to gain confidence on gravel. Always been on road bikes before so this is new for me, and many other riders I'm sure.
Would like to know if that technique you presented so well is exactly the same on gravel or not, given the different surface properties of gravel vs tarmac. Thanks in advance.
welcome!
Thank you so much for all the plug in. You are so detailed. 👍🏽
You're welcome
Got my knee down after hours of frustration at the parking lot taday. That first time it touched was awesome, then it touched again. Some time later I could get it to slide continuously, then I learned going to the right. I set up a smaller circle and got to the point of doing figure 8s with my butt all the way off the bike still at this point. I tried half a butt cheek off and it felt more controlled, although I had to lean the bike a little more. I wen't from not being able to do it at all to sliding figure 8s in a single day, thanks to your videos!
whats the diameter of the cones you have in the back? thanks in advance
At these parking lot speeds, do you initiate the turns with counter steering?
doesn't matter the speed, you're always counter steering
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Do you must to heat your tires first? Or could you do it on cold tires ( no idea how long ur bike was standing there) :)
Well I rode 45 mins just to get to this place, so they're warmed up...but even if I didn't, wouldn't of mattered for me since I've mastered how to do this.
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@@MotoJitsu thanks, you spoke about that in your video sorry I was to quick:)
Thanks for the videos! This may be a stupid question, but wondering why put your knee down at all? What’s the purpose of it? Does it stabilize the bike in a high speed turn or something like that? I don’t ride super hard and have never been on a track, but anytime I take a corner fast (for me) my instinct is to tuck my knee into the bike so it DOSEN’T touch the ground. I know it’s cool to knee drag but I think dragging any body part on the payment would freak me out a little lol.
You’re welcome.
What’s the point of learning how to get your knee down?
#1 because it’s fun! You don’t need any other reason than that but there are benefits.
#2 Learning to do this provides a way to be comfortable being uncomfortable. It teaches you how to do something that’s challenging, which can be applied to any aspect of your life. Learning and practicing full body position (which may result in knee down) gives you a lot of confidence with yourself and your bike, it teaches you what your bike is capable of, you learn various levels of grip with your tires and current levels of traction, you’ll understand how leaning causes motorcycle to slow down, so you need to slightly increase throttle the more you lean in order to maintain your speed. This is a great way to practice your vision, staying relaxed, committing to a goal, building muscle memory-you’ll learn how the timing of when and how much you move your body makes a difference in how the bike handles. You’ll discover where your fear threshold is, where to place your weight, what’s comfortable for you, etc. If you never learn how to do this or even attempt it, you’ll never understand the difficulty and benefits it will provide. Go practice and see. Set up a 40-50ft diameter circle & get to it. Last, when you go to a track day (where this is the most relevant) you can focus more on other aspects of track riding since you’ve already spent time with body position.
@@MotoJitsu haha that was a quick reply! I wrote my question mid way through the video...I see you explained the benefits at the end
This is for the track...has nothing to do with street riding...on the street, I barely move my body at all, if ever. Learning every tool you can...full body position, dirt, supermoto, etc. etc. only adds to your overall experience and gives you more understanding of how and what various techniques work in different situations.
Hi there MotoJitsu, that's a great goal or milestone to achieve, the figure eight, I can also see,theres a lot of aspects to getting the knee down correctly, thank you again friend 🙂🙂🙂
Many variables and lots of practice :)
thanks for the detail explanation, I could understand the body position much better now.
awesome!
Thanks for the video and explanation fast Eddie!
You're welcome!
I love your videos, I've learned a lot, and learned a lot of things to practice. So much more interesting watching videos to learn the right way to ride, than fast highway pulls, and wheelies. That's just stupid.
You are doing great job for all young and old riders! Thanks, guys from Poland are watching You either and learnig with all Your video courses! Take care never stop! :-)
Thanks! 😃 Keep sharing til I surpass 1,000,000 subscribers!! :)
@@MotoJitsu Will do mate, will do! 😉
You re a great teacher. Cheers, thanks and all the best. John
thanks
Love your teaching
Great videos, man! Thanks for the advice and keep it up.
Thanks:)
Great stuff bro i learned alot from your videos. Keep it up 👌👍🔥
you're welcome! Lots more videos to go through :)
Greetings from Philippines!🇵🇭 I'm really learning a lot from your videos. I just want to ask if you're still doing counter steering in this kind of lean😅😅 I'm still a newbie😅
You're always counter steering.
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Thank you so very much for replying. Keep on creating very informative videos!🔥 You're helping a lot of newbie motorcycle drivers😅
:)
As someone with no friends that ride. I’m left to figure it out on my own.
Thanks for the videos.
You will
Hello, I have a question, do you use a counter-turn when practicing descending on your knee? Thank you very much for any answer
Yup
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I wish you was located in New York.
I would happily pay for your service and knowledge. But I guess watching your videos will do for me.
Thank You Sir!
Oh and I'm going on the 28th for my
license wish me luck.
But I am confident enough cause of you....THANK YOU THANK YOU..
You're welcome!
I’m curious…
Is it better to get knee to the ground for the sake of it
Or
Better to slowly ease ur into dragging the knee when you hit a certain lean angle?
you missed the entire point of the video where I answer
Awesome. I've still not gotten my knee down for the first time. I've been working on the fundamentals. I hope i haven't lost too much technique by spring. Don't want to spend the whole season getting back to where i was at the end of fall.
Practice what I say in the video :)
4;04 i was doing that today while practicing in the lot. As I set my body up like you told me in another lean video, it actually caused the bike to lean a lot less because I’m not pushing the bike down today. I was trying to get the bike lower by keeping myself up right and pushing the bike down. But after watching your other lean video, I got my body set the way you showed me, and my body was turned in, leaned off, head over, arms down and relaxed esc esc, and the bike was way up then, I’m having the curve good but with body leaned in and over the bike was hardly even leaned. But I worked and worked and started getting the bike leaning with me with more speed (Amd I tightened my circle) and finally got more lean today than I have yet. And my knee was almost touching, even tho the bike wasn’t even leaned that far it seemed
the idea with full body position is to lean the bike as little as possible for the given speed & radius
Would this same technique work for a dirt bike with all terrain tires? 21" front tire 18" rear tire.
Your input is much appreciated.
I would never try knee down on off road tires
@@MotoJitsu you suggest I do the foot forward bike lean while body more up straight instead? And of course not take corners too fast. While on the road.
I don’t suggest doing anything high speed on off road tires on the cement. That’s for dirt
@@MotoJitsu Thank you for the input. I'll stick too taking it slow around corners and using the foot out forward bike lean method. I look forward to seeing your future videos keep up the good work!
Thank you so much for yours video.
When do you do Body,
Head, Bike on corner like on this video, do you push your external feet down?
Sorry for my English.
Appreciated your job.
I don’t do anything with me feet
@@MotoJitsu I think I asked wrong. When you move the buttock and make a triangle in the inner leg (during a large bend), the weight of the body rests on both footrests?
andy mix stare mostly on my butt, then a little on the inside footpeg
Once youve got you and the bike leaning, how do you get back up. i know the bike comes up firstbut how do you make the bike come up before your own body?
Push it up and add a bit of throttle
thank you SO Much ,your a great instructor, i am a rider for years, whos ridden wrong,
thanks
Very nice. Now how do you find your maximum speed knee dragin? You are so tall, that you dragged, but your bike was still at 45°, so you could lean more and go faster, depending on your tire and suspension. If you lean too far, is there a shudder in the tire, a slight slip, or does it just let go? What tire does let got first under constant throttle? I am not asking for a crash video, I just try to benefit from your experience. 😅
By slowly adding more speed
11:18 what kind of exhaust do you have? great instructions as always
Stock
Haha listen closely
It’s my bike, it’s stock exhaust
I learn more techniques. Thanks a lot
Glad to hear that
first body than head/vision but how to lean the bike countersteering or putting pressure on the direction you're going?
Go practice...set up a 40ft circle and see for yourself.
Great video Eddie! Thumbs UP for that PaveLow in the air adding value!
thanks!
That will be my next drill to begin to use my sliders ! I like the method, by increasing the speed step by step until the knew touches the ground. Very informative !
PS : I appreciate the fact that you mention to "clean" the area. Sometimes, there are tiny rocks (1 inch) on parking area and could make you destabilize when leaning. I always check now before a drill.
Of course....as well as painted lines, grass growing between cracks, etc.
Every day there is a small change in me, which I can feel. Never a day Greg! Never a friggin day goes without!
exactly right!
Probably been asked before. But thoughts with the Lee Parks, knee sliders in jeans? Some say it’s a death trap from jeans catching the ground or twisting the pant? I have been wanting to buy a set of sliders for training. But I only have Motorcylce jeans.
Make sure the jeans are Kevlar lined and have hip and knee armor. Then it’s no problem
Awesome explanation, great video👍😜
thanks! ;)
I love your videos so much, they have helped me a lot especially with body positioning. I did what you said in this video and practiced for hours in a parking lot but still can’t get me knee down. I think I’m going fast enough and have proper body position but no luck 🤷♂️
need someone to watch you who really knows what they're doing to give you feedback...if you can, take a course that teaches full body position. If you were doing what I said in the video, it will happen naturally.
Great video as always!
thanks!
Dude awesome video thanks bro
Great explanation and great vid as usual. Learned a lot of these and are helpful to practice. Where i live (Belgium) the parking lots are not as big and usually overfull by daytime when the malls are open. So wait when they are free and then it's practice time. Thx!!
Thank you!! Please share the video with other riders!! :)
hi, where is this parking lot? thanks.
It's a motorcycle training area on Camp Pendleton.
@@MotoJitsu thanks