Catan Pro Plays Ranked - Ep 16 "Chaos Is A Ladder"

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  • @dandydrew
    @dandydrew  ปีที่แล้ว +12

    DandyCrew! Thank you so much for the support and I am excited for the next wave of gameplays coming out... Some really exciting games will be out soon! If you want to help support the channel, please don't forget to like and sub, and check out the twitch here for when I go live to play the games. www.twitch.tv/gmdandydrew
    Don't forget - You Are Amazing!

  • @chocomoan98
    @chocomoan98 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    "I'm targeting you for reputation" "here let me trade you the win real quick"

  • @bryanzaring6904
    @bryanzaring6904 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    True masterclass. The perfect example of never giving up.

  • @ravihammond
    @ravihammond ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Colonist really need to make ranked games anonymous, only revealing the players identity at the end of each game. This would stop all of these reputation blocks.

    • @davidjones5077
      @davidjones5077 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is the best idea I’ve ever heard

    • @re2pect470
      @re2pect470 ปีที่แล้ว

      So many other games do it and it doesn’t feel like its that hard to implement, like hide the name and have the option for private profiles. Imagine a solid competitor comes along with theses features and big names switch to that platform for the sake of their game

    • @pedroleal8543
      @pedroleal8543 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      No, it doesn't. If you play in live tournaments you don't go to the table with a mask, you know that, right?
      If I sit at a qualifier with Dandy + 2 rookies, of course I'll be more aware to Dandy than to either of 2 rookies.
      I love Dandy's videos and his attitude in general, he's an awesome player, but if you want to "monetize" and "be famous" while streaming and having videos on TH-cam you have to live with it.
      Don't know if you're coming from having no awareness on online games, but it's common for content creators to get tagerted and stream sniped (people queueing at the same time to be in the same lobby) on any game.

    • @cameron6157
      @cameron6157 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@luobronjames Because it's very easy to destroy a single player.

    • @thistamndypo
      @thistamndypo ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pedroleal8543 Anonymous names would only apply to ranked games. Tournament games are hosted in custom lobbies, so no names will be hidden.

  • @cameronbirjandi7440
    @cameronbirjandi7440 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    “Being gaslit isn’t super pleasant from someone you respect”
    Bro was openly making suboptimal moves, literally gaslit himself, targeted you the whole game, and still lost.

    • @dandydrew
      @dandydrew  ปีที่แล้ว +23

      and then attempts to gaslight me with that last comment. It's all good though. I hope as people see these cases on the channel, you notice the people who play overly defensively and off of reputation almost never win. It's just not the strategy that's going to beat good players most of the time.

    • @odoacredacalcutta5085
      @odoacredacalcutta5085 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      and in the end, red was robbed 6 times, while dandy 4... so this is all an exageration of what actually happened.

    • @ishmari14
      @ishmari14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dandydrew “Winners focus on winning. Losers focus on winners.”

    • @dandydrew
      @dandydrew  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@odoacredacalcutta5085ost the most cards to 7s, most resources blocked, worst overall flexibility, robbed 2nd most, and rolled the least amount of cards. If it wasn’t for the perfect endgame sequence of devs, the road battle with both monos, red not getting army with Vp pull, and then the final trade for the win, it’s very likely I finish this game on 6-7 points.

    • @jeremiahkuehne2400
      @jeremiahkuehne2400 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@dandydrew you already won so you can stop trying to convince everyone your position is weak lol ;)

  • @ng3431
    @ng3431 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    excellent game, really a case of resilience, sticking it out and fighting. and a showcase of knowing your outs and finding the opening. kudos

  • @crazymudman123
    @crazymudman123 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No WAY you won that Dandy haha I would have been so tilted after that start!! How on earth do you stay cool there seriously?!

    • @dandydrew
      @dandydrew  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was too tired to tilt 😂

  • @burakaii9214
    @burakaii9214 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dandy Drew at it again! Great gameplay, and very funny to see the trade for the win at the end there. Most players would never make that trade or at least ask wht it does in your gand since you did pass with 2 devs at one point lol. Keep up the great content brotger

    • @dandydrew
      @dandydrew  ปีที่แล้ว

      Helps to track the cards and know what your opponents have. From his perspective, it gives him a chance to hold road and maybe win if he gets an orbit but clearly, that didn’t happen.

  • @adi19891000
    @adi19891000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely epic finish man! Perseverance even through the targeting 💪

  • @jesserheaume
    @jesserheaume ปีที่แล้ว

    yo man, super well played, geezus, the adversity you are facing against these people to get a win

  • @rayleo8333
    @rayleo8333 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wonder if someone could make a browser plugin for you that obscures your name, so that your viewers never learn who you are.
    I also wonder if the Colonist team would be open to anonymizing your name in games once you reach a certain tier, or if you're a content creator. I know you said in the comments of a previous video that the Colonist developers likely wouldn't implement that with their limited resources, BUT I think they have a direct incentive in that more people could make these Road to Rank 1 series which brings visibility to the game. I personally discovered Colonist through a viral DyLighted video..

    • @joelrobinson9632
      @joelrobinson9632 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would need to censor the names of all players at the table. It's pretty obvious you can just search an opponent Dandy plays against and look through their game history to find one that matches with 3 of the same players from the recording, which then tells you the current username of DandyDrew (not the name at the time the game was played).

    • @zacharyambrose3930
      @zacharyambrose3930 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wouldn’t it be simpler for Dandy to just blur the names using video editing?

    • @rayleo8333
      @rayleo8333 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zacharyambrose3930 I feel like that would take a long time.

  • @CaramelGums
    @CaramelGums ปีที่แล้ว +3

    DandyDrew, you should most definitely edit your videos to blur your name and maybe your opponents too. Even when you're streaming I believe you can set it up so that you have banners that will specifically block your name. + on the win screen you should also have a way to instantly blur your screen before your name is shown just so there is no form of bias while playing.

    • @joelrobinson9632
      @joelrobinson9632 ปีที่แล้ว

      Needs to blur opponents also. Too easy to work out his username otherwise.

  • @Harbinger631
    @Harbinger631 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great game Dandy, thanks so much for the content.

  • @vamsikgp
    @vamsikgp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Literally had one turn to win before losing army and he won!! what a champ

  • @gloid4051
    @gloid4051 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I cant believe you won that

    • @jetsfan333
      @jetsfan333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gotta love the top comment spoiler 🙏🏼

    • @gloid4051
      @gloid4051 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jetsfan333 Why do you read the comments before the video

  • @unknownm7968
    @unknownm7968 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Multi’s presence saved you lol you were having a rough stream. 😂 sometimes people targeting you is a blessing in disguise because once you are targeted you will eventually fly under the radar due to other people being ahead. Also, content with comebacks are more satisfying. Either way you get worked up xD

    • @dandydrew
      @dandydrew  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah multi was a champ that stream. I was getting repped EVERY game and at this point, it was around 1am. I took some time to reflect after this stream personally :P

  • @raddasra7084
    @raddasra7084 ปีที่แล้ว

    what a game. super thrilling and thinking like there is no way and then you get the win. gotta admit. The win just feels so much more sweet when you win despite beeing targeted, eh :)

  • @stephaniebittner9388
    @stephaniebittner9388 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Catan is fun! But sometimes the other players’ demeanors can really ruin a game. I’ve seen too many times in chat “x player is stopping me from winning so I’m going to spend the game stopping them from winning” or “idc if I lose as long as x player doesn’t win” it really ruins the game when that happens.
    Of course, banter is part of the game, and I’m trying to balance the use of chat when I play to keep the game fun & fair

  • @jamescaldwell6205
    @jamescaldwell6205 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean playing devils advocate, you DID win that game haha

  • @EatieWheaties
    @EatieWheaties ปีที่แล้ว

    that was a GRIND gg danny

  • @Dwad39
    @Dwad39 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saw that last trade as gg from a mile away lol

  • @givesbeetdip0055
    @givesbeetdip0055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Little finger!!!

  • @jacksonletts3724
    @jacksonletts3724 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Due to the editing I can’t piece together what happened in the game chat. Based on what I can see at the end, Dandy really rubbed the Red the wrong way in this game.
    Does anyone have insight into what red was upset about? I didn’t see anything of note, but the editing of the game makes it hard to tell.

    • @nalceD1
      @nalceD1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Red admits to blocking based on reputation/skill level and Dandy argues that he should be blocking based on strength of position around 16:23 (and there's some conversation before that). When Dandy ends up winning the game, Red considers his opinion vindicated.

    • @dandydrew
      @dandydrew  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      At some point in the middle game, I expressed it wasn't cool to play reputation to red, and I made a cheeky but 100% joking comment after someone asked dandy what do you need, I said "For red to leave the game ;)" because red openly targeted me for reputation multiple times. This was purely just fun joking banter but I think red took it the wrong way at some point. After I won the game, red made the comment about complaining and winning, and I said are you okay? Then he claims I gaslighted him(!?) and attempted to make me feel bad for some reason. I really didn't say much during this game but I did stand up for my position when things weren't going great. I feel I got very lucky in the endgame considering I how this game played out but it happens.

  • @raddasra7084
    @raddasra7084 ปีที่แล้ว

    also to make a case for other players. Sometimes if you play ows you block the other ows player eventhough some one else might be stronger to play to your win condition. So i see the thought behind blocking the hardest competition. I just think its not optimally to do it so early and without reason. Gotta focus on your game first i think :)

  • @bjornlindqvist8305
    @bjornlindqvist8305 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blue's last trade wasn't smart. :P

    • @dandydrew
      @dandydrew  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, but it does secure him road so that’s something at least

  • @fcampos10
    @fcampos10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You need to change your name. It's not fun for us to watch a game were people play against you on purpose, and I also imagine that's not fun for you either. We can't connect with the experience of the game because it is not a normal gameplay.

    • @ravihammond
      @ravihammond ปีที่แล้ว

      This is old content - he already changed his name on twitch a couple weeks ago, but unfortunately he's already starting to being noticed with that new name too 😢

  • @ChunkeM0nkey
    @ChunkeM0nkey ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honestly I don't know why you've kept a name like "iManipulate" for as long as you have.

    • @dandydrew
      @dandydrew  ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope you understand a lot of these games were played in 2-3 sittings on twitch weeks ago… I’m trying to strike a balance of playing and not trying to consistently conceal my name every time. I’ve found it comes with the territory at this point.

  • @ajbarsanti
    @ajbarsanti ปีที่แล้ว

    Dandy - do you think it would make sense for Colonist to eventually implement some sort of blind name thing in ladder matches? It's legitimately frustrating to watch even as a viewer IMO, I dislike how heavily recognition seems to play into behavior. While the argument can be made that social management includes such recognition (and, obviously, you and others can succeed despite said recognition) I feel like it changes the game a lot and makes it less fun to view.
    With Catan seemingly hitting a mini-golden-age of growth at the moment I wonder if it'd be a cool long-term change to allow players to change their display name much more easily.

    • @dandydrew
      @dandydrew  ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t think it’s really needed or necessary - this kind of reputation play only affects a handful of people in the community. I think better for improving players to realize these kind of strategies aren’t going to help you improve and rarely lead to giving you an advantage. I’ve found people who play reputation actually get so tunneled that they hurt their game more than anything else.

  • @Renkin26
    @Renkin26 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 18:28, couldn't you have not traded that sheep, used the YOP for a wood and ore and then double road, settle, and pop? I feel like that would've been a pretty good YOP play.

  • @dundeedideley1773
    @dundeedideley1773 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just change the name before every stream, then make a ton of TH-cam videos from the streams but as soon as you upload to TH-cam you gotta change name again

  • @ApplepieFTW
    @ApplepieFTW ปีที่แล้ว

    I would recommend editting a black square over your name at least, it'll keep you anonymous for longer at least. Even on stream, you could maybe do some OBS trickery. Just chancing your name will do nothing probably

  • @odoacredacalcutta5085
    @odoacredacalcutta5085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the last trade by blue when he already had taken road was the dumbest s*it I've ever seen in my life. Btw if it wasn't for that noob of green who took 3-6-11- instead of 11-12-6 for absolutely no reason who gave you ridiculous brick trades for wheat early you would have never been in this game.

    • @dandydrew
      @dandydrew  ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s not a good trade but if blue doesn’t lock road, he definitely loses this endgame so it’s a risk. He needs me to not win and hopefully find a way to close it out next orbit which could be possible. Clearly he didn’t anticipate the YOP ftw

    • @odoacredacalcutta5085
      @odoacredacalcutta5085 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dandydrew yeah but even locking road he was still only at 8 with minimal chances for a win. He was better off hoping red would 7 out and fail to gain road back rather than trading you 2/5 of a city when you clearly had 3 devs, so either you were at 9 with 2 vps or at 8 with a mono which reads as a vp anyways. In general in the ending you just don't see this kind of trades

  • @artboymoy
    @artboymoy ปีที่แล้ว

    Looked like you could have used your YP for a dev draw a few turns before the end for a point draw, but maybe not?

    • @joelrobinson9632
      @joelrobinson9632 ปีที่แล้ว

      Had already played the knight that turn. 1 dev playable per turn

  • @thistamndypo
    @thistamndypo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's super cringe to play differently when you recognize someone. Decisions should be made by the state of the board alone.

    • @444Kobe444
      @444Kobe444 ปีที่แล้ว

      Disagree. People are playing the game to win, not to successfully make the textbook move. Skill level is a factor in decision-making in every game/sport. If a player is much better but a little behind in points, the better player still probably has the best chance of winning in most cases. This video is exhibit A

  • @alexbarber1566
    @alexbarber1566 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't like the idea of anonymity, I get targeted alll the time w >50% wr and its fine, such is IRL. You don't sit down with your friends at a board game anonymously, so why should the online be? every game/sport people can and SHOULD play deifferently based on their oppositions tendencies and skill level. One could argue they are right to target you, you win more and manipulate the game slightly tipping the scales all day

    • @dandydrew
      @dandydrew  ปีที่แล้ว

      This doesn’t have much to do with a high win rate - When people are going to play irrational simply bc someone makes TH-cam content, it throws the balance of the game. As red said, it’s fear and he’s seen me do stuff on my TH-cam channel.
      I get it… I’m a strong player and it might be advantageous to slow me down in some cases. That’s cool! But from the standpoint of making content to show the everyday player how to play an everyday game, reputation play to this extent isn’t great or fun to deal with.
      Ultimately, I hope improving players realize this kind of strategy rarely works in their favor. Great players don’t play that way because they don’t need to. Oh well, the show goes on. :)

    • @ethangagne2759
      @ethangagne2759 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Idk what y’all are talking about with reputation blocking at all. Dandy literally wasn’t targeted in any abnormal way in this game. I’ve been wrecked way harder than this when my position was really bad and I was losing because opponents misread the board and situation. I think he should have been bit much harder once he didn’t play the two devs on that one turn and with green and blue trading road back and forth. Meanwhile dandy is soaring past them.

    • @444Kobe444
      @444Kobe444 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dandydrewdamn man, so dramatic, you weren’t overly targeted. You’ve become way more self-entitled over time.

  • @hmpesky08
    @hmpesky08 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe black out your new account name for the videos to lower recognition.

  • @DidierPilon
    @DidierPilon ปีที่แล้ว

    That rob at 15:00 is so bad. Playing against you instead of playing to win.

    • @jeremiahkuehne2400
      @jeremiahkuehne2400 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why is it a bad block? Dandy at 4 tied with everyone else with one knight already played and a city and strong OWS and he gets robbed by his army competitor. That was the obvious play there

  • @dominicpowis9166
    @dominicpowis9166 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stopped playing board game arena when my elo hit over 400 ( top 5 in the world ) for the very reason dandy doesn’t like playing with people like red
    Just started to suck and all I want is a good fair game not being stolen over and over his cus of your rep. Stops you having any chance of winning and kills the fun for everyone
    Elo/name should defo disappear during game across all online Catan game providers

  • @JacobJohnsonGingerDancer
    @JacobJohnsonGingerDancer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was mildly upset this game with watching. It felt like you weren't in a good headspace and kind of took it out on a few people. Who were totally justified in thinking you were a threat.

    • @dandydrew
      @dandydrew  ปีที่แล้ว

      I can see where you are coming from. This was the final game of a 6 hour stream and I was targeted in every game that night, which is frustrating for sure. It was obvious I was targeted for reputation in most of the cases but if you run this game back, I usually don’t win it due to lack of flexibility. Curious to know at what point do you think I am the threat?