Jokic 33-14-14 on 53-40-100 shooting is an insane game. You guys are losing your grip on reality asking him to do more. But you aren't actually saying that what you want is for him to take away ball from Murray so this guy can do less damage, that is what you are calling for and while that may work vs these Lakers it won't win us a title. So, while I do agree that Jokic isn't play 4D chess during the game, he knows that he will need full squad in sync and in rhythm if they are to win the title. So, while yes if Jokic took the ball from Murray maybe we sweep the Lakers, but what does that leave Denver with against Wolves? Murray needs to care more about winning and less about making his box score look good. He is way up in his head, about playoff Murray, about him being playoff raiser about being All-NBA or whatever. He needs to do what is needed to win the game, not what will give him a good box score and then the box score will come. I really dislike the approach that Murray had in these games,. He made them about him, when they should be about team.
he averages 30 12 10 in the playoffs thats not crazy to his standards not so much impact didnt score for too long ober 8 minutes when we needed a bucket
The problem with Jamal Murray is what Adam said mid season (I don't think it was here, I think it was Locked on Nuggets). Year to year, the whole league is improving. And when you are the champion, the whole league is specifically looking how to stop YOU. You can't just coast whole season and show up when you want and expect to be better than everybody, regular season is where you improve. (not saying you play 82 games at 100%, but you find your spots and find your stretches) Jamal is the same Jamal he was last season, but it's just not enough. And guys it's not about hitting or missing shots, Murray can go 0/20 and he can have a decent game, but he's not getting to his spots and his decision making is on the same level for 2 season straight. (frustrating knowing he can get to level he played in the finals, basically second Jokic). It may not hurt them this year, but the gap is getting smaller and smaller, so if he doesn't change, it will eventually bite them in the ass. I still believe he has enough for this year, he will get into shape eventually, but I hope he's fitter and more consistently working on his game during the next season.
@@RS-ol8or he's our Embiid, he's always injured and I don't know him but seeing how he's constantly out of shape, says to me that he isn't doing everything he can to prevent it
@@UraStr 😆 calling him Emflop is a major putdown in my book, but I get your point. Yeah I don't know if he partied too hard after the June chip or what, but his conditioning all year has been bad. I hope they don't reward him with a supermax extension this offseason if they don't win it back again; unless they're willing to try to trade him and a package for Luka.
@@RS-ol8or I don't want to make it worse, but some of the grifting he does this series also remind me of that dude you mentioned...but I still believe, he can get it together enough this season and learn his lesson whilst winning
His shot selection is bad so far in the lakers series he is forcing some bad shots bro is shooting 20%from deep and 38% from the field he just has to feed jokic more in the pick and roll if he cant hit a shot sometimes he is trying to much
Out of all the 4 starting guards tonight, Murray was easily the worst. AD, DLo, and KCP were all significantly better on both ends. Also, they have to abandon Jokic guarding AD or play it differently. It feels like AD has hit every shot over Jokic and that is contributing to the really bad starts.
Jamal can’t be shooting 20+ shots a game if he’s going to be at 37%. He’s averaging 1.7 for 6.7 from 3 and 7 for 16.3 from 2. 8.7 for 23 from the field. Someone off the bench needs to step up or the Minnesota series is going to be tough. They’re proving to be deeper than Denver right now even though their talent at the top isn’t as good as ours
The best way for Jokic to get other guys going - is for him to be aggressive and go in the paint. That opens up the game for his teammates and creates open shots for them. And he draws fouls and gets opponents in foul trouble. And his teammates see the him scroring and the confidence go up. And 3 point shots are starting to fall in. Jokic is the leader of this team. When he is passive from the beginning - it creates wrong attitude for the whole team. We've seen this time and time again in the regular season (last game vs Dallas)
I agree. Murray is being dogged in the defensive end this series and it’s affecting his offense. Time after time I see Jokic standing at the top waiting to hand or to someone when he should be driving to the paint and getting a foul, a shot, or a pass out for a shot. Any time he does that good things happen, but more often then not this series he’s standing at the top of the key waiting to hand the ball off instead of being aggressive and tryna get AD a quick two fouls. His defensive effort is poor as well. I’d like to see him clogging the lane constantly and contesting with his hands up most the time. Instead he is swiping and hardly contesting as dudes get close to the rim.
@@georgesredo7185yeah it’s unfortunate I never though of murray as lockdown defender but when you see him and CB looking the same on defense it’s not good. Both are just getting blown by on every coverage.
Next game Nikola needs to be aggressive right out the gate and look to score. Make the defense shrink and focus on Joker, open things up for the other guys. Head down and go to the basket.
As I read through the comments, it seems we mostly agree that Murray has been playing poorly. He hunts his own shot too often. When he can't get it, he passes to Jokic mostly, with the shot clock expiring. He is not nearly as unselfish a player compared to the other starters. There is no way he should be taking more shots during the game than Jokic or Porter.
It's 11 games straight, I barely found motivation to watch. Jokic began to miss bunnies, Mal missing wide open looks. This was a focus problem, easy on the panic button
Jamal being like this for a while ! I don’t think he had took these playoffs seriously compares to MPJ🙏so many noise asking for MPJ salary to go down and get a better one! I bet if we will say something like these to Jamal, then he will wake up😳
I’m one of the big mouths who eventually want to trade Mal for Luka. Mal is overrated & always injured. He cares more about all star appearances than winning. He has extreme talent, but is inconsistent. WHEN my Nuggs sadly lose to the Wolves, I hope you guys are more open to trading him and even MPJ. Joker is the keystone, with AG & KCP around him as locks. Everyone else is a role player , revolving around Planet Jokic.
Jamal Murray is awful. These turnovers kill the team. And overall shitty decisions by him that lead to turnovers or tough shots. Jokic is also not good. Yes, good stats, but he doesn't begin playing till 3-4 qt. IMO he should be aggressive from the beginning, go to the paint, draw fouls. He is playing some strange basketball 1st half trying to do I don't know what. You can't win without making your hands dirty, only playing on the perimeter on clean balls as a dispatcher. Go to the fucking paint! When Jokic is aggressive it opens the game for his teammates, creates space and open looks for others. Jokic is messing with the game as he did many times during the regular season Nuggets cannot go with this attitude into 2nd round. Maybe it's good that they got this slap in the face. It's fucking playoffs!
With Murray’s poor conditioning it was even more imperative for nuggets to close out the series early and give him and rest of starters enough rest. Game 5 is a must win for nuggets or its anyone’s series
You guys really gonna make me suffer aren't you...Your Favorite Lakers Fan here. Now i gotta sit here and here everyone say oh can they come back someone has too. Ugh i just wanna rebuild just need your guys help but no. MPJ absolutely cooked, Jokic cooked but nor to much in the 4th. Jamal omg what is with his shooting
Two playoff runs ended with Murray injuries. He missed the end of the season. Now he’s questionable for game 5. Jokic has only so many seasons to pursue rings. The nuggets better figure out their point guard deficiencies……..🙃
This looks like a dope ass podcast. All I’ll say is now y’all know how Laker fans feel after giving away 3 games. Are the Nuggets better than LA? Absolutely but the Lakers have shown they can compete with them. Game 5 is gonna be a battle and Lakers probably gonna lose but there’s always a small chance 🫡
Timberwolves closed the series the way Denver should have done it. If the bench does not improve in hitting open shots...nuggets will go down in a hurry...1-4
Remember how crappy the Nuggets looked after game to in last year's championship series? Let's hope this year's version learns from this ugly performance as they did last year.
The overall level of these first 4 games has been awful. Jamal is clearly injured/not fit and without a fully healthy/fit Jamal, our chances of repeating are extremely slim.
I'm feeling better this morning. I think it's better that they lose and use that as a wake-up call than if they somehow miraculously win when they're playing so bad, and then they just carry that to the next series. Hopefully, they do wake up for this
Why does Jamal need rest every year? Is he a professional athlete earning millions? Isn’t his job to be in perfect condition? Dude is snacking or drinking latte every time he’s on TV.
Jokic on AD sucks. They basically throw the finale hoop to LeBron every time. I don’t know why Malone keeps it that way. You’d think he would have learned after game 2. As long as the nuggets shoot bad we can’t play em straight up. This copy cat shit is so annoying. I wish the nuggets would just hit their shots and get it over with.
Those oops happened because LeBron was in the dunker spot more than ever this series. Something Denver is going to have to account for because they’re going to see more of it
i think too many nuggets fans are living in a fantasy world.... these are professional athletes, some of the best in the world... most thought this would go 6-7 games... why are we over reacting to one loss... if we lose the next two..well than bitch all you want... put my bet is we roll next game at home... like against SA at the end of the season we quietly felt sorry for them as we do for the lakers after 11 wins... watch... you all gonna be...dang I did over reacted.... 123-111 game five at home to give the fans a wow moment!
@@Commenting800 you mean nugget for life KCP. 90% of X LLLLLLLLLLLakers are overhyped garbage. Lakers just buy buy buy and lose lose lose. Your future is very bleak.
I'm sorry but that's a trash game plan, cool if they win but risking players get injured due to extending he series. And minnesota is a harder opponent.
Here's a hot take about Jokic's game tonight: Everyone talks about Jokic's genius IQ, so I'm going to pretend like his reactive non-aggressive play tonight was a deliberate, intelligent choice. I don't know that it was, because I think he'd rather just win, but what if Jokic saw how the team was playing, thought about how much tougher the Timberwolves are going to be and decided they could use another game vs the Lakers to find their rhythm and work through whatever is making them play bad. So he eased back on his own scoring to force everyone else to step up. He did what he needed to get them close but they had to push the team over the edge. This seems like a wild idea to me though because it supposes that there's somehow more value in this extra "practice" than there is in an extra 48 hours of rest and practice at home.
That's a wild take but I can see where you're coming from. To me losing this game might be a better blessing in the long run. Sort of a wake up call to get ready for next round rather than sweeping the Lakers on continued poor starts and bad shooting on open looks with a false confidence.
We need 4 games to start talking how bad Zhammal is, he has been pulling team down every game, low IQ game on offence almost no game on defence, dumb mistakes at the most important moments, oh yes he made one lucky shot that it was not his to take, he is just bad as always, without Jokic he would be just another Gary Harris
Jokic was bad on defense because he is a mediocre defensive player. His skills on offense are great but his lack of lateral movement and jumping hampers him on defense. Right after the formere GM said that people don't go at him all the time like earlier in his carerr the Lakers went right after him.
@@georgesredo7185 There is some truth to that. Murray never really recovered from his knee injury. The reason why Chet and Wemby are so valuable is they cover for all the other players. As great as Jokic is on offense he lacks lateral movement and jumping ability.
@@RS-ol8or lmao ya if he's not feeling great with injuries etc, then i get it but then plz stop chucking up 20+ shots every game and shoot like 35% every game. obviously he clutched up in game 2 but like id rather have mpj or kcp or someone taking a few extra shots rather than jamal be ice cold and continue shooting
A championship team without championship antenue. The Nuggets were a Jokic 5 three pointer 1st half performance from putting this game away. The Lakers are in a hole because LeBron with the ball in his hands, CHOSE not to play through AD in crunch time. Now he's slowly unveiling their strategy all along. Nuggests are trailing these game because Jokic is refusing to call his own number early. These Laker-Nuggets games really come down to make or miss. Jokic is spending too much time deferring to a unreliable core. The fact that they refuse to adjust...Maybe MPJ in the two man with Jokic? The Lakers telegraphed their plan from a mile away. Wear down Murray. Body blows via points in the paint to basically double Jokic's output. Nuggets are going to end up like the 2016 Warriors. Worn out, desperately chucking 3s on tired legs because of organizational hubris. Every time Malone addressed his team as being better than the Lakers, the trap was being set.
Timberwolves 🐺 fan 🙋♂️ 1) Great to see Nuggets have to play an extra game. Hopefully we get a couple extra days of rest and recovery. Haha 2) Joker is unworldly awesome offensively, but man his defense 🤢🤮 is atrocious. All four games he's been ushering LeBron & AD to the basket. 3) Because of Jokers 0 rim protection + KAT/Rudy give him a somewhat hard time on defense, and Denver has no bench (compared to MN) I'm feeling pretty confident to win the series. Especially since we've just witness McDaniels & NAW shut down Booker/Beal I think they won't have any problem keeping Murry to 40%. 4) MPJ looks really good this year and seems to have matured. 5) For Denver to win I think MPJ & Pope have to have other worldly performances consistently or Twolves take the series. ☆ Minnesota Homer / Enjoy Your Show 👏
Please come back after the nuggets beat the wolves. You’re playing the most mentally weak team since last year’s suns lol. See y’all next series where we’ll smack y'all in game 1.
Murray is making the offence stick over dribbling taking bad shots he keeps on taking the worlds longest 2s does he not know that is the worst shot on the court, & when he over dribbles and then decides he doesn’t know what 2 do he just dumps of a grenade 2 jokic 🤦🏾♂️ he a overrated playmaker just gets easy assists from dumping the ball 2 jokic in the paint he doesn’t know how 2 facilitate for the whole team he has 2 give the ball 2 Jokic more, I hope he can bounce back but know1 can try and sugar coat this season or playoffs so far for Murray hes been awful, yh he hit that incredible game winner but he the reason we was down in the first place
Like Adam said if we continue to make a run 2 the finals Jamal Murray could face great defensive players like / jaden McDaniels / Lu Dort / Derrick white / Jrue holiday / so 2 think he struggling against Austin reave is concerning , I just hope he can we can take game 5 against LA and he has a good game so he can get his rhythm bck 🤞🏾
@@JJack-eb5mc yh he overrated playmaker he’s not a true point guard more of a undersized shooting guard he’s a scorer, I hate 2 discredit all the assists he gets but it true 80% his assists aren’t real dimes they just come from him just throwing the ball 2 jokic in the paint & jokic scoring & like u said it shows when he’s with the second unit cause he can’t seem 2 get any offence flowing, but there’s nothing wrong with him not being a true point guard or facilitator cuz we have Jokic, like I said he just has 2 give the ball up & stop over dribbling
Anyone look at the teams the Nuggets played last year? TWolves -42-40, Suns 45-37, Lakers 43-39 and Heat 44-38. Three of the four were playin. That is not the highest level of competition.
That’s all Jokic DOES is carry these guys, night in night out! Hello?! 3rd mvp upcoming? Mal is objectively bad all four games apart from a miraculous shot at the end of one game. Seems like it’s time for him to stop being always injured, and start to become the second best player in the team like he’s supposed to be instead of letting his team and fans down.
You guys. . Jokic is the GOAT, except when he's giving up 70 points in the paint in a playoff setting and deferring to Watson and Braun for 3 point shooting.
If Jokic was half the player that you guys think he is, especially historically.....When is he going to go off from 3? That's what is needed to off set the 70 points in the paint you're giving up.
KCP is the reason you won your first chip ever. AKA a Lakers guy thought you how to win. Not gonna happen this year. Wolves gonna cook you next series.
Jokic 33-14-14 on 53-40-100 shooting is an insane game. You guys are losing your grip on reality asking him to do more.
But you aren't actually saying that what you want is for him to take away ball from Murray so this guy can do less damage, that is what you are calling for and while that may work vs these Lakers it won't win us a title.
So, while I do agree that Jokic isn't play 4D chess during the game, he knows that he will need full squad in sync and in rhythm if they are to win the title. So, while yes if Jokic took the ball from Murray maybe we sweep the Lakers, but what does that leave Denver with against Wolves?
Murray needs to care more about winning and less about making his box score look good. He is way up in his head, about playoff Murray, about him being playoff raiser about being All-NBA or whatever. He needs to do what is needed to win the game, not what will give him a good box score and then the box score will come. I really dislike the approach that Murray had in these games,. He made them about him, when they should be about team.
Jokic was a joke on defense
@@youknow2715 AD scored 25 point in 42 mins. So like can't be that bad.
he averages 30 12 10 in the playoffs thats not crazy to his standards not so much impact didnt score for too long ober 8 minutes when we needed a bucket
"approach in this game", he is 4 out of 4, he has no game, it would help if he was more on the bench
I think Jamal dribbles too much and holds the ball too much
He clamps up when LeBron puts pressure on him. Like he loses confidence in his scoring ability over Bron.
Murray's definitely in a slump now. I hope it ends before we play Minnesota or we're not making it past the second round.
The problem with Jamal Murray is what Adam said mid season (I don't think it was here, I think it was Locked on Nuggets). Year to year, the whole league is improving. And when you are the champion, the whole league is specifically looking how to stop YOU. You can't just coast whole season and show up when you want and expect to be better than everybody, regular season is where you improve. (not saying you play 82 games at 100%, but you find your spots and find your stretches) Jamal is the same Jamal he was last season, but it's just not enough. And guys it's not about hitting or missing shots, Murray can go 0/20 and he can have a decent game, but he's not getting to his spots and his decision making is on the same level for 2 season straight. (frustrating knowing he can get to level he played in the finals, basically second Jokic). It may not hurt them this year, but the gap is getting smaller and smaller, so if he doesn't change, it will eventually bite them in the ass. I still believe he has enough for this year, he will get into shape eventually, but I hope he's fitter and more consistently working on his game during the next season.
You said it. League is getting better and all play well and it’s harder to win. These are all great teams.
Jamal isn’t the same ; he’s fought injuries this whole year. He missed over 25% of the games this year and now he is injured again.
@@RS-ol8or he's our Embiid, he's always injured and I don't know him but seeing how he's constantly out of shape, says to me that he isn't doing everything he can to prevent it
@@UraStr 😆 calling him Emflop is a major putdown in my book, but I get your point. Yeah I don't know if he partied too hard after the June chip or what, but his conditioning all year has been bad. I hope they don't reward him with a supermax extension this offseason if they don't win it back again; unless they're willing to try to trade him and a package for Luka.
@@RS-ol8or I don't want to make it worse, but some of the grifting he does this series also remind me of that dude you mentioned...but I still believe, he can get it together enough this season and learn his lesson whilst winning
Jamal has been horrible this series, crazy. If we advance and he plays like this against Minnesota we are finished.
he is my only worry right now. Bro can't make a 3 to save his life
💯true.. it looks he just woke up and get ready of bed !! Jamal is not fit as he use to be!!!
His shot selection is bad so far in the lakers series he is forcing some bad shots bro is shooting 20%from deep and 38% from the field he just has to feed jokic more in the pick and roll if he cant hit a shot sometimes he is trying to much
He will come. Patients
MIN ? can’t close out an injured Laker team ? 🥲🥲🥲
Jamal Murray is a disaster in this series. He holds the ball too much
Out of all the 4 starting guards tonight, Murray was easily the worst. AD, DLo, and KCP were all significantly better on both ends. Also, they have to abandon Jokic guarding AD or play it differently. It feels like AD has hit every shot over Jokic and that is contributing to the really bad starts.
Jamal can’t be shooting 20+ shots a game if he’s going to be at 37%. He’s averaging 1.7 for 6.7 from 3 and 7 for 16.3 from 2. 8.7 for 23 from the field. Someone off the bench needs to step up or the Minnesota series is going to be tough. They’re proving to be deeper than Denver right now even though their talent at the top isn’t as good as ours
We are not winning against Minnesota without Jokic destroying Gobert and Jamal being Playoff Jamal, it's just not going to happen...
Yup! I’m glad other fans also see this. Wolves are hungry & deep & Ant is a monster.
The best way for Jokic to get other guys going - is for him to be aggressive and go in the paint. That opens up the game for his teammates and creates open shots for them. And he draws fouls and gets opponents in foul trouble. And his teammates see the him scroring and the confidence go up. And 3 point shots are starting to fall in.
Jokic is the leader of this team. When he is passive from the beginning - it creates wrong attitude for the whole team. We've seen this time and time again in the regular season (last game vs Dallas)
I agree. Murray is being dogged in the defensive end this series and it’s affecting his offense. Time after time I see Jokic standing at the top waiting to hand or to someone when he should be driving to the paint and getting a foul, a shot, or a pass out for a shot. Any time he does that good things happen, but more often then not this series he’s standing at the top of the key waiting to hand the ball off instead of being aggressive and tryna get AD a quick two fouls. His defensive effort is poor as well. I’d like to see him clogging the lane constantly and contesting with his hands up most the time. Instead he is swiping and hardly contesting as dudes get close to the rim.
@@chrisgonzales8290 Murray is not playing any defence anyway...blown by every time
@@georgesredo7185yeah it’s unfortunate I never though of murray as lockdown defender but when you see him and CB looking the same on defense it’s not good. Both are just getting blown by on every coverage.
Next game Nikola needs to be aggressive right out the gate and look to score. Make the defense shrink and focus on Joker, open things up for the other guys. Head down and go to the basket.
As I read through the comments, it seems we mostly agree that Murray has been playing poorly. He hunts his own shot too often. When he can't get it, he passes to Jokic mostly, with the shot clock expiring. He is not nearly as unselfish a player compared to the other starters. There is no way he should be taking more shots during the game than Jokic or Porter.
It's 11 games straight, I barely found motivation to watch. Jokic began to miss bunnies, Mal missing wide open looks. This was a focus problem, easy on the panic button
Jamal being like this for a while ! I don’t think he had took these playoffs seriously compares to MPJ🙏so many noise asking for MPJ salary to go down and get a better one! I bet if we will say something like these to Jamal, then he will wake up😳
I’m one of the big mouths who eventually want to trade Mal for Luka. Mal is overrated & always injured. He cares more about all star appearances than winning. He has extreme talent, but is inconsistent.
WHEN my Nuggs sadly lose to the Wolves, I hope you guys are more open to trading him and even MPJ. Joker is the keystone, with AG & KCP around him as locks. Everyone else is a role player , revolving around Planet Jokic.
Jamal Murray is awful. These turnovers kill the team. And overall shitty decisions by him that lead to turnovers or tough shots.
Jokic is also not good. Yes, good stats, but he doesn't begin playing till 3-4 qt. IMO he should be aggressive from the beginning, go to the paint, draw fouls. He is playing some strange basketball 1st half trying to do I don't know what. You can't win without making your hands dirty, only playing on the perimeter on clean balls as a dispatcher. Go to the fucking paint! When Jokic is aggressive it opens the game for his teammates, creates space and open looks for others.
Jokic is messing with the game as he did many times during the regular season
Nuggets cannot go with this attitude into 2nd round. Maybe it's good that they got this slap in the face. It's fucking playoffs!
If Jamal is shooting under 40% again DLo and Reeves he will shoot in 20’s against Ant and McDaniels
Lakers have led over 100 minutes. That is a danger sign.
With Murray’s poor conditioning it was even more imperative for nuggets to close out the series early and give him and rest of starters enough rest. Game 5 is a must win for nuggets or its anyone’s series
You guys really gonna make me suffer aren't you...Your Favorite Lakers Fan here. Now i gotta sit here and here everyone say oh can they come back someone has too. Ugh i just wanna rebuild just need your guys help but no. MPJ absolutely cooked, Jokic cooked but nor to much in the 4th. Jamal omg what is with his shooting
Two playoff runs ended with Murray injuries. He missed the end of the season. Now he’s questionable for game 5. Jokic has only so many seasons to pursue rings. The nuggets better figure out their point guard deficiencies……..🙃
Trading for Luka is the way.
This looks like a dope ass podcast. All I’ll say is now y’all know how Laker fans feel after giving away 3 games. Are the Nuggets better than LA? Absolutely but the Lakers have shown they can compete with them. Game 5 is gonna be a battle and Lakers probably gonna lose but there’s always a small chance 🫡
Meanwhile, with Luka shooting like Jamal, Kyrie is masterfully managing this Dallas-Clippers series.
Timberwolves closed the series the way Denver should have done it. If the bench does not improve in hitting open shots...nuggets will go down in a hurry...1-4
Another day. Another super chat not getting read. I’m done supporting with super chats
Oooof
Always thought those were a weird way to spend your money. 🤷♂️ I guess some of y’all must be loaded.
We needed a wake up call
They obviously went clubbing
Remember how crappy the Nuggets looked after game to in last year's championship series? Let's hope this year's version learns from this ugly performance as they did last year.
might be time for more MPJ Joker 2 man
The overall level of these first 4 games has been awful.
Jamal is clearly injured/not fit and without a fully healthy/fit Jamal, our chances of repeating are extremely slim.
😂😂 pure comedy...not gonna do it like this 💯💯💯🐺 going to eat us alive 😋😢
We are winning this championship even easier...
I'm feeling better this morning. I think it's better that they lose and use that as a wake-up call than if they somehow miraculously win when they're playing so bad, and then they just carry that to the next series. Hopefully, they do wake up for this
Why does Jamal need rest every year? Is he a professional athlete earning millions? Isn’t his job to be in perfect condition? Dude is snacking or drinking latte every time he’s on TV.
Jokic needs someone to get him the ball.
LeBron sent a message to Nuggets: NO ONE BEATS THE KING 12 TIMES IN A ROW!
The nuggets were trying to make highlight reels early tonight. Lotta turnovers off guys trying to do something extra. Got caught playing around
Those 8 early TO had me heated.
Westbrook, resident genius in a Statline says a lot about the value if that stat.
Casual observers talking out of both sides of mouths, as usual!!! The Lost Angeles Lakers aren't going anywhere near the NBA Finals, PERIOD!!!
not one good game but still up 3 1 we can only get better
Pebble in the shoe…Lakers 🤣🤣🤣
He gave up 23 rebound to his opposite number! And 70 points in the paint!
It might be painful, but the Nuggets probably need to rebuild the roster. Mal is just bad and needs to go for this team to be a real contender.
Jokic on AD sucks. They basically throw the finale hoop to LeBron every time. I don’t know why Malone keeps it that way. You’d think he would have learned after game 2. As long as the nuggets shoot bad we can’t play em straight up.
This copy cat shit is so annoying. I wish the nuggets would just hit their shots and get it over with.
Those oops happened because LeBron was in the dunker spot more than ever this series. Something Denver is going to have to account for because they’re going to see more of it
Jokic is a shitty defensive player
Denver in the end not gonna win this year. Teams coming and next year ,if we don't change something drastically we can't win another one. PATHETIC 🤢
i think too many nuggets fans are living in a fantasy world.... these are professional athletes, some of the best in the world... most thought this would go 6-7 games... why are we over reacting to one loss... if we lose the next two..well than bitch all you want... put my bet is we roll next game at home... like against SA at the end of the season we quietly felt sorry for them as we do for the lakers after 11 wins... watch... you all gonna be...dang I did over reacted.... 123-111 game five at home to give the fans a wow moment!
Jamal Murray is not an All Star. I'm sorry.
He has star talent but average physique/stamina. Not putting enough work to make himself better is why
@@ruggedland naha, guy just has very low IQ
Sell Murray and get Bogdanovic. Easy as that.
Dejounte murray is much better player and he can defend too.
Looked like we felt bad for sweeping the Lakers.
Lakers' guy (KCP) showed you how to make and win your first and only finals! You're welcome.
@@Commenting800 you mean nugget for life KCP. 90% of X LLLLLLLLLLLakers are overhyped garbage. Lakers just buy buy buy and lose lose lose. Your future is very bleak.
😂 let’s get it
MJ is the GOAT. Maybe the greatest defensive palyer at his position and he never took a night off.
he only takes years long vacations/fake retirements because he's burnt out. Couldn't even a finsih a career without breaks. LeBron is the GOAT.
@@Commenting800 sure.
Maybe they wanted to close it out at home so Lebron gets to hear the who's your daddy chant one more time
I'm sorry but that's a trash game plan, cool if they win but risking players get injured due to extending he series. And minnesota is a harder opponent.
It’ll be even more funny if LA sends it back home
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Here's a hot take about Jokic's game tonight:
Everyone talks about Jokic's genius IQ, so I'm going to pretend like his reactive non-aggressive play tonight was a deliberate, intelligent choice. I don't know that it was, because I think he'd rather just win, but what if Jokic saw how the team was playing, thought about how much tougher the Timberwolves are going to be and decided they could use another game vs the Lakers to find their rhythm and work through whatever is making them play bad. So he eased back on his own scoring to force everyone else to step up. He did what he needed to get them close but they had to push the team over the edge.
This seems like a wild idea to me though because it supposes that there's somehow more value in this extra "practice" than there is in an extra 48 hours of rest and practice at home.
That's a wild take but I can see where you're coming from. To me losing this game might be a better blessing in the long run. Sort of a wake up call to get ready for next round rather than sweeping the Lakers on continued poor starts and bad shooting on open looks with a false confidence.
We need 4 games to start talking how bad Zhammal is, he has been pulling team down every game, low IQ game on offence almost no game on defence, dumb mistakes at the most important moments, oh yes he made one lucky shot that it was not his to take, he is just bad as always, without Jokic he would be just another Gary Harris
It's been 4 games Nuggets play like trash, the narrative of Joker not caring or the team as whole doesn't care should be a major concern.
Jokic was bad on defense because he is a mediocre defensive player. His skills on offense are great but his lack of lateral movement and jumping hampers him on defense. Right after the formere GM said that people don't go at him all the time like earlier in his carerr the Lakers went right after him.
how about every player blows by Murray and Jok has to defend 2 players on every play
@@georgesredo7185 There is some truth to that. Murray never really recovered from his knee injury. The reason why Chet and Wemby are so valuable is they cover for all the other players.
As great as Jokic is on offense he lacks lateral movement and jumping ability.
MPJ got that sun lmao. Please win game 5 so he can replenish before the next round 🤣🤣
Put Murray in the sun too. 😂 Dude has been horrible.
@@RS-ol8or lmao ya if he's not feeling great with injuries etc, then i get it but then plz stop chucking up 20+ shots every game and shoot like 35% every game. obviously he clutched up in game 2 but like id rather have mpj or kcp or someone taking a few extra shots rather than jamal be ice cold and continue shooting
A championship team without championship antenue. The Nuggets were a Jokic 5 three pointer 1st half performance from putting this game away. The Lakers are in a hole because LeBron with the ball in his hands, CHOSE not to play through AD in crunch time. Now he's slowly unveiling their strategy all along. Nuggests are trailing these game because Jokic is refusing to call his own number early. These Laker-Nuggets games really come down to make or miss. Jokic is spending too much time deferring to a unreliable core. The fact that they refuse to adjust...Maybe MPJ in the two man with Jokic? The Lakers telegraphed their plan from a mile away. Wear down Murray. Body blows via points in the paint to basically double Jokic's output. Nuggets are going to end up like the 2016 Warriors. Worn out, desperately chucking 3s on tired legs because of organizational hubris. Every time Malone addressed his team as being better than the Lakers, the trap was being set.
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1) Great to see Nuggets have to play an extra game. Hopefully we get a couple extra days of rest and recovery. Haha
2) Joker is unworldly awesome offensively, but man his defense 🤢🤮 is atrocious. All four games he's been ushering LeBron & AD to the basket.
3) Because of Jokers 0 rim protection + KAT/Rudy give him a somewhat hard time on defense, and Denver has no bench (compared to MN) I'm feeling pretty confident to win the series.
Especially since we've just witness McDaniels & NAW shut down Booker/Beal I think they won't have any problem keeping Murry to 40%.
4) MPJ looks really good this year and seems to have matured.
5) For Denver to win I think MPJ & Pope have to have other worldly performances consistently or Twolves take the series.
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Please come back after the nuggets beat the wolves. You’re playing the most mentally weak team since last year’s suns lol. See y’all next series where we’ll smack y'all in game 1.
Good luck for you all. T wolves are gritty team . Much respect but I hope nuggets will win.
Murray is making the offence stick over dribbling taking bad shots he keeps on taking the worlds longest 2s does he not know that is the worst shot on the court, & when he over dribbles and then decides he doesn’t know what 2 do he just dumps of a grenade 2 jokic 🤦🏾♂️ he a overrated playmaker just gets easy assists from dumping the ball 2 jokic in the paint he doesn’t know how 2 facilitate for the whole team he has 2 give the ball 2 Jokic more, I hope he can bounce back but know1 can try and sugar coat this season or playoffs so far for Murray hes been awful, yh he hit that incredible game winner but he the reason we was down in the first place
Like Adam said if we continue to make a run 2 the finals Jamal Murray could face great defensive players like / jaden McDaniels / Lu Dort / Derrick white / Jrue holiday / so 2 think he struggling against Austin reave is concerning , I just hope he can we can take game 5 against LA and he has a good game so he can get his rhythm bck 🤞🏾
@@JJack-eb5mc yh he overrated playmaker he’s not a true point guard more of a undersized shooting guard he’s a scorer, I hate 2 discredit all the assists he gets but it true 80% his assists aren’t real dimes they just come from him just throwing the ball 2 jokic in the paint & jokic scoring & like u said it shows when he’s with the second unit cause he can’t seem 2 get any offence flowing, but there’s nothing wrong with him not being a true point guard or facilitator cuz we have Jokic, like I said he just has 2 give the ball up & stop over dribbling
This was not Nuggets basketball
Miroslave pijanduro matora 😂😂😂
Jokic with the lack of killer instinct.
Anyone look at the teams the Nuggets played last year? TWolves -42-40, Suns 45-37, Lakers 43-39 and Heat 44-38. Three of the four were playin. That is not the highest level of competition.
Yep so glad Calvin made the brilliant decision to not get any bench upgrades in the trade deadline
Casual
Look at the way they're trapping Murray
Completely taking him out of his sweet spots ruining his rhythm
His own IQ is trapping him
The 7 foot guy is supposed to carry. Not the 6"4" guy.
That’s all Jokic DOES is carry these guys, night in night out! Hello?! 3rd mvp upcoming?
Mal is objectively bad all four games apart from a miraculous shot at the end of one game. Seems like it’s time for him to stop being always injured, and start to become the second best player in the team like he’s supposed to be instead of letting his team and fans down.
Nuggets loose bot teams bad minesotta other level
Stats are a shit way to judge the value of a player.
we see an angry and vengeful murray next game. fear thy name
If LA wins the next game jokic should retire
If they lose this series, Luka will be traded to denver. Gordon, KCP and Jamal will be gone.
Gotta love sports. Because these takes are absolutely bat shit
In a playoff setting, MJ would not allow his team to consistently trail.
the myth of jordan would end world hunger too. But real Jordan got swept in the 1st round twice.
I agree, why is Murray playing so bad & letting his team down?
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Trust Jokic?
One of these teams has TWO top 75, perennial all stars
You guys. . Jokic is the GOAT, except when he's giving up 70 points in the paint in a playoff setting and deferring to Watson and Braun for 3 point shooting.
If Jokic was half the player that you guys think he is, especially historically.....When is he going to go off from 3? That's what is needed to off set the 70 points in the paint you're giving up.
Bruh..he's been in second gear this whole series, don't worry about him he can turn it up, rest of the team needs to do their job when he does
KCP is the reason you won your first chip ever. AKA a Lakers guy thought you how to win. Not gonna happen this year. Wolves gonna cook you next series.
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@@dejan.zivkovic.psiholog Lakers' champion protege showed you the way. You're welcome.
My god you are delusional
Timberwolves will beat the Nuggets if they playing like this. Murray is playing horrible.