I had to twist people's arms to get them to go to the opposite side where no artifacts would be available. I knew the port propellor would make for great video. Everyone is wayyyyy too fixated on coming up with china on that wreck. Later, divers who refused to go the prop, regretted not seeing it and being captured on video.
I have heard the story of the Doria since I was a little brat, because there were on board that time people from my town, working as waiters in the dining rooms😮
I don’t know much about what’s left these days of this ship, but is there still big plates or any of the China left? I know it’s probably getting harder to find any interesting items left! Thanks man!
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It is collapsing at a rapid pace. The bow has split away from the hull too, that was seen at least 9 years ago, when I saw it in 2011. We could easily get into the bow section even then. I found a winery, and collected bottles on that trip.
@@wcs563 Really? Wow. Ive been studying Titanic, Britannic, Lusitania, Andrea Doria since i was 6 or 7 and im now 29 and I can't imagine what seeing them is like and its sad to hear that she's collapsing but at the same time im not surprised.
Dan, if you should go out to the Doria again, could you possibly bring back a sherd of china or something recognizable from the wreck or debris field for me? I'm 69 years old and not going to be making a dive myself.
Hi Gene: If you are spending that kind of money, you are going for the adventure, not the china. Many have died from "china fever", risking their lives for the booty. I saw it happen last summer. A diver, in which it was his first trip to the Doria, became complacent by his third dive, and didn't run a reel, got himself lost in the debris field, going after an artifact. Low on air, he elected to a free ascent, using an SMB as his way to the surface, some 110 miles out in the Atlantic ocean, in shipping lanes, in a heavy fog. Needless to say, he didn't get that artifact, and he was lucky to not been adrift out at sea, maybe never to be found. The skill of the captain, second captain, first mate and dive mate saved his life.
@@wcs563 Where does the 5 grand figure come from.I get that helium is expensive but 5 grand? I did a week of advanced trimix diving at Whitefish Point MI. last summer.I had maybe $1500 in gas
@@stevecrane1125 You have to pay to have a charter boat take to you out to the site. Usually there for a couple of days, food, a place to sleep all cost $$$$.
Just watched your video here. Why are you bringing back objects from the wreck? 51 people lost their lives and correct me if I am wrong but this wreck site should be treated more as a memorial rather than a scavenger site. I think this is an ongoing debate with the Titanic but why should the Doria be treated any differently? Just my opinion at this point but I feel that this amazing wreck, a great dive, should be left for taking pictures at most. Who needs a souvenir for something like this?
I was waiting for someone to say this. Pretty sure it’s illegal to do so aswell and filming yourself taking artifacts from a wreck without permission can get you arrested.
@@minnesotangaming8966 hey MG thanks for chiming in. Something wasn't sitting right when I saw this. I've been a diver up in Canada for over 15 years. We were always taught to never disturb a wreck, especially where there is a loss of life. Not sure how people are still not getting this. Don't get me wrong, I also believe in preserving history but there are other ways. Anyways, just wanted to extend my thanks on this one.
Both of you are wrong (Minnesotan Gaming too) as the Andrea Doria is in International waters, there are no laws against recovering artifacts therein. Same with the Titanic, but it takes millions of dollars to build and launch a submersible to reach 2 miles in depth. As for the Andrea Doria, artifacts have been recovered from it since the day after the sinking on July 26th, 1956. In the heyday, during the 1980s and 1990s, THOUSANDS of pieces of china were recovered and in various collections around the world now. Research the history gentleman. If the artifacts are not recovered, eventually they all will be lost, as the wreck is crumbling and being returned to rubble, all artifacts will be buried in the sand, never to be seen again. Portholes, windows, bells, artwork, even the Andrea Doria statue have been salvaged, YEARS ago.
@@wcs563 it's not a question of if or what has been recovered. I'm well versed in salvage operations with shipwrecks. I think international waters or not, it's wrong. From a moral stand point it's wrong. Do you work for a museum or historical society Whether? Whether you benefit financially from this or not is none of my business, I just felt something needed to be said here. You want souvenirs from a shipwreck with lives lost, no one can stop you. Happy diving.
If indeed it was a vessel sank in battle, with remains on board, such as the U-853, U-869 and U-352, which I have dived, I would feel that they are war graves. The same was all the ships in Truk Lagoon, which I dived as well. The Doria was a luxury liner, sank in a collision with another liner. All lives lost were during the collision, not the sinking. It took over 12 hours to slip beneath the surface, ample time to rescue the passengers and crew. I plan on donating my collection when I pass to a museum, by the way, and I have never sold a single artifact I have ever recovered, unlike many, many others. Perhaps you should complain to those parties.
I'd suggest you get in line, ha ha! While I usually give away extra artifacts to close friends and family, the pieces I keep for myself would be very expensive to outright buy off of me. From time to time, Andrea Doria china goes up for sale or auction, as diver's estates pass the artifacts along to collectors.
We don't usually carry pure O2 to the wreck, but various Nitrox and Tri-Mix blends. If you are referring to Sandra (the one wearing pink), she has the correct amount of bailout gas needed in case her rebreather should fail. The shipwreck is deep, and when one is deep, you use much more gas than on the surface, for every 33' we descend, you are at another atmosphere, so at 240' we are nearly 8 atmospheres, using eight times the gas than at the surface, if breathing open circuit. Fortunately most are using rebreathers now, and they use much less gas, as we recycle the gas over and over, filtering out the CO2 and adding just enough O2 to keep our loop at the setpoint desired.
@@wcs563 Yeh sorry was rather rude of me, I think I'd watched a few diving ones by then and some had some horrible music. Great video though, cheers for the upload. Looks like an amazing dive👍
We don't dive the Andrea Doria for artifacts, that is a side benefit, a memento of the trip. I personally dive it for the adventure and history behind the sinking.
@@wcs563 I didn´t mean to hurt anyone´s feelings. I got it. I like underwater adventures; and history. I like this video so much. The Andrea Doria reminds me a very funny episode of Senifeld TV show.
Yeah, I understand. If you don't like it, turn down the sound, play your own choices. After editing it and watching it a hundred times, it gets to me as well. Promblem is I must use copyright free music, and the choices are limited.
The idea of seeing the propeller up close and touching it is chilling. Amazing
I had to twist people's arms to get them to go to the opposite side where no artifacts would be available. I knew the port propellor would make for great video. Everyone is wayyyyy too fixated on coming up with china on that wreck. Later, divers who refused to go the prop, regretted not seeing it and being captured on video.
Stunning photography Thank you for sharing
I have heard the story of the Doria since I was a little brat, because there were on board that time people from my town, working as waiters in the dining rooms😮
40 years ago I got into deep diving to see her. She was still up some when I went. Heard she is about flat now. Back then it was a 600$ dive.
Very few fish left. In the 70s that place was loaded with cod pollack and white hake and also tuna in fall
Has any diver been able to get to the place where the car is ?
I am not aware of any diver finding the car...
I don’t know much about what’s left these days of this ship, but is there still big plates or any of the China left? I know it’s probably getting harder to find any interesting items left! Thanks man!
Still possible to find china in the debris field.
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cool video! looks like little current
Hey Dan, how does the wreck look? Last I heard more of the upper part of the ship collapsed in the past few years?
It is collapsing at a rapid pace. The bow has split away from the hull too, that was seen at least 9 years ago, when I saw it in 2011. We could easily get into the bow section even then. I found a winery, and collected bottles on that trip.
@@wcs563 Really? Wow. Ive been studying Titanic, Britannic, Lusitania, Andrea Doria since i was 6 or 7 and im now 29 and I can't imagine what seeing them is like and its sad to hear that she's collapsing but at the same time im not surprised.
@@wcs563 yeah that’s a grave site dude....bad mojo taking shit from it
No one is buried there. All 52 accident victims were recovered the day it happened. Research the history, thank you.
@@wcs563 but 46 were killed the night the Andrea Doria was struck. We're their bodies ever recovered do you know?!
I just found out about the Norseman... is there any footage of it underwater? Would love to see even a small piece recovered from it.
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Dan, if you should go out to the Doria again, could you possibly bring back a sherd of china or something recognizable from the wreck or debris field for me? I'm 69 years old and not going to be making a dive myself.
Sure thing. Please e-mail me at: wcs563@aol.com
@@wcs563 Message on the way!
@@wcs563 you're a good man
Have you gone on any more dive on the Andrea Doria since this?
We plan to go back this year!
Very exciting! Hope you upload again! Thanks for sharing
Hey Dan what are the currents like down there?
@@wcs563 Did you get to go again?
A Trimix dive to the Andrea Doria costs you about $5000-is that broken chinaware worth it?
Hi Gene: If you are spending that kind of money, you are going for the adventure, not the china. Many have died from "china fever", risking their lives for the booty. I saw it happen last summer. A diver, in which it was his first trip to the Doria, became complacent by his third dive, and didn't run a reel, got himself lost in the debris field, going after an artifact. Low on air, he elected to a free ascent, using an SMB as his way to the surface, some 110 miles out in the Atlantic ocean, in shipping lanes, in a heavy fog. Needless to say, he didn't get that artifact, and he was lucky to not been adrift out at sea, maybe never to be found. The skill of the captain, second captain, first mate and dive mate saved his life.
@@wcs563 Where does the 5 grand figure come from.I get that helium is expensive but 5 grand? I did a week of advanced trimix diving at Whitefish Point MI. last summer.I had maybe $1500 in gas
@@wcs563 If you think that debris field is cool you should dive the Comet in Lake Superior
@@stevecrane1125 You have to pay to have a charter boat take to you out to the site. Usually there for a couple of days, food, a place to sleep all cost $$$$.
@@wcs563 I like stories like that. Where others save other people in highly dangerous situations. Proud of the Captain, and crew saving this man.
You know you could done this without annoying music. Good video anyway
I know! A few have complained, sorry about that!
@@wcs563 Don´t worry-footage is good!
You could just use the volume button. I guess people have to always find the fault and point it out .
Has anyone ever found the Chrysler prototype?
Not that I am aware, but now, maybe just a frame and engine block left.
@@wcs563 probably the tires window glass steering wheel and some plastic pieces might be left.
@@wcs563 probably the tires window glass steering wheel and some plastic pieces might be left.
Just watched your video here. Why are you bringing back objects from the wreck? 51 people lost their lives and correct me if I am wrong but this wreck site should be treated more as a memorial rather than a scavenger site. I think this is an ongoing debate with the Titanic but why should the Doria be treated any differently? Just my opinion at this point but I feel that this amazing wreck, a great dive, should be left for taking pictures at most. Who needs a souvenir for something like this?
I was waiting for someone to say this. Pretty sure it’s illegal to do so aswell and filming yourself taking artifacts from a wreck without permission can get you arrested.
@@minnesotangaming8966 hey MG thanks for chiming in. Something wasn't sitting right when I saw this. I've been a diver up in Canada for over 15 years. We were always taught to never disturb a wreck, especially where there is a loss of life. Not sure how people are still not getting this. Don't get me wrong, I also believe in preserving history but there are other ways. Anyways, just wanted to extend my thanks on this one.
Both of you are wrong (Minnesotan Gaming too) as the Andrea Doria is in International waters, there are no laws against recovering artifacts therein. Same with the Titanic, but it takes millions of dollars to build and launch a submersible to reach 2 miles in depth. As for the Andrea Doria, artifacts have been recovered from it since the day after the sinking on July 26th, 1956. In the heyday, during the 1980s and 1990s, THOUSANDS of pieces of china were recovered and in various collections around the world now. Research the history gentleman. If the artifacts are not recovered, eventually they all will be lost, as the wreck is crumbling and being returned to rubble, all artifacts will be buried in the sand, never to be seen again. Portholes, windows, bells, artwork, even the Andrea Doria statue have been salvaged, YEARS ago.
@@wcs563 it's not a question of if or what has been recovered. I'm well versed in salvage operations with shipwrecks. I think international waters or not, it's wrong. From a moral stand point it's wrong. Do you work for a museum or historical society Whether? Whether you benefit financially from this or not is none of my business, I just felt something needed to be said here. You want souvenirs from a shipwreck with lives lost, no one can stop you. Happy diving.
If indeed it was a vessel sank in battle, with remains on board, such as the U-853, U-869 and U-352, which I have dived, I would feel that they are war graves. The same was all the ships in Truk Lagoon, which I dived as well. The Doria was a luxury liner, sank in a collision with another liner. All lives lost were during the collision, not the sinking. It took over 12 hours to slip beneath the surface, ample time to rescue the passengers and crew. I plan on donating my collection when I pass to a museum, by the way, and I have never sold a single artifact I have ever recovered, unlike many, many others. Perhaps you should complain to those parties.
Go head and send those artifact to me. I-m becoming a business man.
I'd suggest you get in line, ha ha! While I usually give away extra artifacts to close friends and family, the pieces I keep for myself would be very expensive to outright buy off of me. From time to time, Andrea Doria china goes up for sale or auction, as diver's estates pass the artifacts along to collectors.
the amount of oxygen that guys has on is rediculous.
We don't usually carry pure O2 to the wreck, but various Nitrox and Tri-Mix blends. If you are referring to Sandra (the one wearing pink), she has the correct amount of bailout gas needed in case her rebreather should fail. The shipwreck is deep, and when one is deep, you use much more gas than on the surface, for every 33' we descend, you are at another atmosphere, so at 240' we are nearly 8 atmospheres, using eight times the gas than at the surface, if breathing open circuit. Fortunately most are using rebreathers now, and they use much less gas, as we recycle the gas over and over, filtering out the CO2 and adding just enough O2 to keep our loop at the setpoint desired.
No music, I'd rather hear bubbles
If I don't care for the music in a video, I just turn down the sound, I cannot please everyone with the music, so I make no apologies.
@@wcs563 Yeh sorry was rather rude of me, I think I'd watched a few diving ones by then and some had some horrible music. Great video though, cheers for the upload. Looks like an amazing dive👍
Someone find me
Only a pair of mugs and broken dishes? What a waste.
We don't dive the Andrea Doria for artifacts, that is a side benefit, a memento of the trip. I personally dive it for the adventure and history behind the sinking.
@@wcs563 I didn´t mean to hurt anyone´s feelings. I got it. I like underwater adventures; and history. I like this video so much. The Andrea Doria reminds me a very funny episode of Senifeld TV show.
Just a little advice... don't use this kind of music. It's really annoying
Yeah, I understand. If you don't like it, turn down the sound, play your own choices. After editing it and watching it a hundred times, it gets to me as well. Promblem is I must use copyright free music, and the choices are limited.
I think this is a great piece of music. What is it?