I guess Im asking randomly but does someone know of a method to get back into an Instagram account?? I was stupid forgot my password. I appreciate any help you can give me.
26:17 When we worked with testing eval boards, we would frequently need to mod them to take specific measurements and such, and soldering a wire to a passive was one of the main ways to do that. The key is to use very fine gauge wire (usually 26 ga or smaller) and then tape or superglue it down before soldering to make sure the strain relief was properly done. The "weight" of the wire (and also it's resistance to bending) is mainly what rips off passives, so having that will help a lot. After that, some Kapton tape is almost always enough, but if you want to make extra sure, then a dab of superglue works. That said, measuring PSU ripple under high transient workloads is actually pretty tough. Most guides will have you set your 20 MHz BW limit on the scope and probe the end of a cap with the little spring connector, but that's not always feasible, especially when your load transients are faster than that. To avoid noise, I once got some ultra-subminiature coax cable and soldered it to the point of interest. The shielding is sufficient for most noise as long as it's far enough from the magnetics. However, such cable is extremely difficult to work with and NOT cheap.
4:28 its nice to have the option. my old evga board had all sorts of lights that stayed illuminated when in sleep or even fully tuned off, and after rearranging my room once i found it to be pretty annoying as i could see it in bed.
Since few, if any, are posting it; the proper format for BIOS Flashback / no-CPU flashing on MSI boards is FAT or FAT32, 8192 Byte sector size ("Allocation unit size") with the BIOS you wish to flash onto the board being called MSI.ROM on the USB drive. it varies slightly from brand to brand (I think Gigabyte wants 4096 byte sectors?)
since this costs the same as the X570 Tomahawk (it has a worse VRM, no post code reader let alone clear CMOS button) and costs a lot less than the X570 Unify (which is hardly any better) this is a braindead easy choice to buy. Though its weird that this board has a 6 pin meanwhile the X570 Unify does not.
I sympathize with your dilemma re: scoping transient response on AM4 MoBos. Maybe it's time to wire up a "Franken-CPU" with wires attached to the substrate (next to a Vcore in) and do it that way.
G'day Buildzoid, 🤔 Although a bit expensive for an everyday Ryzen setup, for the price I think this will be a good choice for anyone who wants to take their OCing more seriously, whether it be CPU, RAM or GPU, except SLI
After watching your videos for ~6 months, I think I'm starting to understand a few things from these PCB breakdown videos. 14:20 A CPU pulls 200A under max load because 300W / 1.5V = 200A, something like that, right?
I'm using one of these with 64GB of GSkill 3600-18 and a 5950x. The CPU runs at 100% 24/7 processing with only a weekly restart. And I use it for browsing, and editing at the same time. All together this makes for a super-package of stability and performance. It's processing about 45% faster than my 3900x on the Aurus Master X570. And it runs about 15C cooler at the same temps. I want to pull the 3900x and pop another 5950x into that slot and get more work done. And the prices look like they might get below $700 in time.
@@camotech1314 I was in the Army in the Third Armored Division. I'm not sure I COULD hear anything. All I hear is the fans..... I really like this board. I run three M.2 in it, I changed the bios so they all run through the CPU with 4 lanes, although I lost 8 lanes in the GPU and two SATA ports.
Thank you buildzoid for not feeding the ‘epeen’ addiction with frametimes and noise normalized graphs, etc. I think most of the youtubers like comparing gpu numbers. Unfortunately they are unwittingly driving demand. I would love to see hacks that ‘uncripple’ gpus. For example a simple tutorial on how to use elmor’s dongle to unlock power.
I've had to use the CPUless bios flash feature a few times. Once on a x399 board for when the 2nd gen threadripper came out. Another time on the rampage vi encore, and I forget the other occasion. But its wicked nice to have.
I watched this because I wanted to know how the m.2 slots are wired and how the pcie lanes split up compared to the b550 aorus master where you ended up with pice 3.0 x8 connection on a graphic from 1 year ago and older. But that part is totally missing :(
Me: Overclkcing memory (suddendly crash) - PANIC Also ME: I'll use the Motherboard LED Debug code to fix it - KALM. LED DEBUG: You have a memory problem, go fix it , i'm not tellin you what it is - PANIC
Regarding the bios flashback, I only ever flash my bois this way and I managed to brick my motherboard and it recovered it for me it's my preferred option especially if you have a USB with an LED that shows it's working.
7:30 I have the msi mpg x570 gaming which also have one extra connector that is not needed, but i found that i can undervolt a bit further if i have it pluged in
I think that 6-pin pcie power connector is on there to power something like a USB expansion card or something along those lines. For example i have a USB expansion card that requires a sata power cable to power it. I'll find out tomorrow, I'm getting this board used for $75. Not bad, $75 for a $300 mobo. Let's just pray that it actually works lol.
the auto recovery works on ONE board for amd i have out of 4 and thats on the b450I gaming plus ac board. it literally will go right back to where it was if oc fails so long as its NOT way out of range and hard locks the system in bios...
This would be better if the BIOS flashback button was just somewhere on the board due to the infrequency of its usage and the spot on the rear I/O was just a power button or something.
check out the b550m aorus pro p variant! looks like it could be a really good budget option! a comparison with the older non p variant would make great content for those working to a budget!
@@camotech1314 I've had it for 2 years. No issues or bugs as of yet. My vrms have been running really cool compared to my last board. (Asrock b450 pro 4) so all in all I'm happy with it. You deffo could do allot worse for a board!
I had a very strange issue with ASUS B550-F that Clear CMOS did not work well, the PC keep shutting down giving RAM issues, but when you remove the battery for some minutes it did started to work normally.
why is bios flashback always on the rear IO, when it'll be used like twice in a board's life. Why isn't something useful there like asus's safe boot or a switch between 2 bios chips.
@@mixit2413 the more expensive the board, the more features they put on them. It’s also real useful for overclockers to go back to a stable bios if they screw something up.
Thanks, was looking forward to this.. 3 weeks ago, before i switched to and preordered (cause there's no stock anywhere) the A. Extreme. I have no regrets now. But i do hope i'll get a comparison between crucial ballistix and the new trident z Neo for the 5950x. Especially 4x16(SR?) / 2x32 / 2x16 low-latency, high frequency variations. Will it be the CL14@3.8ghz or Cl16@4ghz or maybe CL18(32gb flavour)@4k? And please grace us with some recommendations (16 vs 32 samsung b die vs micro rev b?) soon..
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking because of the memory compatability and overall quality compared to the x570? I might return the x570 unify, should I go for another brand like ASUS to avoid all sorts of bios issues? I have been reading about lots of issues ppl are having with the MSI x570 boards and am really concerned
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking JonnyGuru was complaining about 3090 PCIe overdraw causing instability on the LTT forums a while ago so I suspect MSI noticed the same thing
BZ, have you seen the Asus TUF X570-PRO? Seems identical to the TUF X570-Plus but adds BIOS Flashback, Intel LAN, Wifi 6, and an internal USB 3.2. Type C header for ~$220.
i struggle to understand the need for OC frendly Ryzen 7/9 8-16core VRM ready mortherboards, as long as the VRM can handle a 16core with PBO on, it should be plenty 99,5% of all users dont need more than that, since you need crasy cooling + a cherry picked sample to get ANY kind of good overclocks on ryzen chips. Isnt a MSI B550/X570 tomahawk or Gigabyte Aorus elite B550/X570 good enogh VRM whise for the 16cores ?
Better VRMs for over clocking. The biggest difference between b550 and x570 is PCIE 4.0 support. X570 has all lanes 4.0 ready while b550 limits you to the top x16 slot and at least the top m.2 slot for 4.0. Sli is effectively dead and for most users there’s really no reason to need multiple 4.0 m.2 drives. This board still has 3 4.0 m.2 drives.
Hi Buildzoid, I have a Question: What is the Difference between EPS-12v (8-Pin EPS) and PCIe 8-Pin? EPS-12v Connectors can handle up to 384w, PCIe 8-Pins can handle a Maximum of 150w, Why is that? On the back of many power supplies, they use different cables but the same connectors (I am talking about the Back Of the PSU) for both EPS-12v and PCIe 8-Pin. Also, Why do GPU Manufacturers not use an EPS-12v 8 Pin, would it not be cheaper?
From my limited knowledge The 4.0 is the 4th gen from the PCIe slot and the x16 is the speed GPU can utilize full x16 speed, while PCIe NVMe SSD can only x4 speed Please correct me if i am wrong
Different price point. This B550 Unify-X is a ~$300 motherboard. The Tomahawk X570 is a $250 board. Tomahawk X570 has much less features for overclocking but perfectly good as a daily system. If you are not a hardcore overclocker, I would prefer the X570 Meg Unify instead. That is the best price vs performance AM4 board that is perfectly good for overclocking too. It is also a $300 board
Hi sir.. I was thinking to buy this board to replace my trustee C6H. Its been almost 6 years with me, and still running flawless. Do you think it's a good idea? Thanks for reply.
BZ - have you ever saved (to USB) a profile of an earlier version of a BIOS and tried to load it after an update? Do profiles work across different versions, is what I'm trying to ask :)
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking if the board shows you what has changed before saving/exiting you could snap a photo after reseting to defaults. That has saved me a ton of time in the past. Especially when setting fan curves.
32 gb sticks are all dual rank no quad rank so isnt the best setup for ryzen 4x16/32 for 8 ranks? bc 3200 with 4 ranks total is about equal to 3600 2 ranks total in games
at first I thought it actually was, and was fine with it if its meant to be an overclocking / bench board but I guess thats dumb if you want to sell alot of them
Wait, did MSI stop using the 8pins at the top to supply extra power to the PCIEX16 slot or slots depending on the board? I know they do it on board like the x570 Unify and with the new GPUs being so damned power hungry doesn't it help a bit? Thanks BZ I always watch your content before buying any board now and would really like to know...
what are you talking about? there are 2 8 pin cpu connectors at the top of the board. you only need one for proper operation. especially on good power supply that has a strong single 12v rail it's basically redundant and pointless to plug one in. i guess they do it because of power supplies that come with cables for it. plus your gpu get's it's own plug. are you sure you should be messing around with the inside of your computer?
This at $300 or Aorus Master b550 at $250? That's the current going rate for both boards... I'd love that rear CMOS clear on the Aorus but it's not there. I'm going to run a 3800x for now but 5900x when I get it with 2x16gb TEAM xtreme ARBG 3600c14 (hoping to push 3800c14).
I thought B chipsets don't expose all the RAM timings relevant to memory overclocking so why would they bother? Or is it that the manufacturers just cut corners in the BIOS on B350?
If I am not a hardcore overclocker, will this board benefit me in any way? I have b-die 2x16 3200cl14 and am running it at 3600cl14, I don't really have the knowledge or experience to feel like I can safely run it faster than that. I want to get the x570 ace because I love the look of it (I know, I know... form over function?), but if the b550 unify-x is going to make a difference for my use case of ram overclocking, then I will definitely consider it.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Yeah I'm counting from the paper launch day. The paper launch (at least in Chinese speaking countries) is October 27th, the day before big Navi. At least some big Navi cards are shipped out and received by the customers, not this board yet and still counting.
On my b450 Gaming Pro Carbon BIOS, I have an option to have it retry up to 10 times for memory retraining. Should I use this? I haven't really noticed this doing anything when I break everything. :)
help me out here.... steve said Zen3 performs better with all dimm slots populated... so in his case 4 does that mean this b550 unify x will always perform worse, or better, or... im confused ^^
Steve was saying it for keeping dual rank per channel (4x single rank 8gb) but you can buy single dimms with dual rank (16gb each). When doing pure memory OC it is always better to do two sticks and not four. Steve was saying it purely for memory efficiency on zen3.
MSI Unify X + 2x16gb 3600mhz cl16 gskill or MSI unify + 2x(2x8gb) 4400mhz cl19 viper steel kit? planning on putting 5800x3d and the ram choice is limited here in my country
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Am addicted to pcb breakdowns
When hardware unboxed showed the beefy red devil 6800 xt pcb, I immediately wanted to see a bz breakdown of it.
I am going full learning mode when I listen to that :D When people play music sure why not but I listen to PCB breakdowns to learn :D
It's free Education. 🧠 ☺️
I guess Im asking randomly but does someone know of a method to get back into an Instagram account??
I was stupid forgot my password. I appreciate any help you can give me.
@Jensen Travis Instablaster :)
When BZ started the video he was like a teacher in the class --- "ok class lets start on the rear I/O"
Love the Build Zoid M.2 cover lol :D
Yeah I noticed that in the OC videos, very cool of MSI to do that for him 😁, Kind of like a "We Listened & Learned, So thankyou BZ"
26:17 When we worked with testing eval boards, we would frequently need to mod them to take specific measurements and such, and soldering a wire to a passive was one of the main ways to do that. The key is to use very fine gauge wire (usually 26 ga or smaller) and then tape or superglue it down before soldering to make sure the strain relief was properly done. The "weight" of the wire (and also it's resistance to bending) is mainly what rips off passives, so having that will help a lot. After that, some Kapton tape is almost always enough, but if you want to make extra sure, then a dab of superglue works.
That said, measuring PSU ripple under high transient workloads is actually pretty tough. Most guides will have you set your 20 MHz BW limit on the scope and probe the end of a cap with the little spring connector, but that's not always feasible, especially when your load transients are faster than that. To avoid noise, I once got some ultra-subminiature coax cable and soldered it to the point of interest. The shielding is sufficient for most noise as long as it's far enough from the magnetics. However, such cable is extremely difficult to work with and NOT cheap.
14 90A power stages is flat out excessive.
4:28
its nice to have the option. my old evga board had all sorts of lights that stayed illuminated when in sleep or even fully tuned off, and after rearranging my room once i found it to be pretty annoying as i could see it in bed.
Great, i have something to listen to for the next 46 minutes while i'm working
You work?
Since few, if any, are posting it; the proper format for BIOS Flashback / no-CPU flashing on MSI boards is FAT or FAT32, 8192 Byte sector size ("Allocation unit size") with the BIOS you wish to flash onto the board being called MSI.ROM on the USB drive.
it varies slightly from brand to brand (I think Gigabyte wants 4096 byte sectors?)
looking forward to BD breakdown of the new navi cards !!!!!!!!
I am honestly to lazy to check all comments, but for the 6PIN on the lower end: It is needed if you use all 4 m.2 slots.
since this costs the same as the X570 Tomahawk (it has a worse VRM, no post code reader let alone clear CMOS button) and costs a lot less than the X570 Unify (which is hardly any better) this is a braindead easy choice to buy. Though its weird that this board has a 6 pin meanwhile the X570 Unify does not.
I sympathize with your dilemma re: scoping transient response on AM4 MoBos. Maybe it's time to wire up a "Franken-CPU" with wires attached to the substrate (next to a Vcore in) and do it that way.
G'day Buildzoid,
🤔 Although a bit expensive for an everyday Ryzen setup, for the price I think this will be a good choice for anyone who wants to take their OCing more seriously, whether it be CPU, RAM or GPU, except SLI
After watching your videos for ~6 months, I think I'm starting to understand a few things from these PCB breakdown videos.
14:20 A CPU pulls 200A under max load because 300W / 1.5V = 200A, something like that, right?
Correct.
@@Snotkoglen Thanks!
CPU pulls like 250W at 1.25V
Well, that's just basic Ohm's law that they teach in like middle school if I remember right?
@@mamuf Wasn't sure if I needed to consider 3.3V of I/O, or 5V/12V from PSU/mobo, or CPU voltage proper. Although now I know.
the LED switch turns *all* the RGB headers off too :)
On my MSI board, Flash Bios only needs 24 pin. So it's probably the same on this board...after all, why would you plug in the 8 pin without a CPU?
I might've mis remember the instructions.
Buildzoid, will you do Dark Hero too or ASUS still angry? :)
“This is very pointless. Just pretend it doesn’t exist.” Words of wisdom ...
I'm using one of these with 64GB of GSkill 3600-18 and a 5950x. The CPU runs at 100% 24/7 processing with only a weekly restart. And I use it for browsing, and editing at the same time. All together this makes for a super-package of stability and performance. It's processing about 45% faster than my 3900x on the Aurus Master X570. And it runs about 15C cooler at the same temps. I want to pull the 3900x and pop another 5950x into that slot and get more work done. And the prices look like they might get below $700 in time.
Do you hear any coil whine on this board?
@@camotech1314 I was in the Army in the Third Armored Division. I'm not sure I COULD hear anything. All I hear is the fans.....
I really like this board. I run three M.2 in it, I changed the bios so they all run through the CPU with 4 lanes, although I lost 8 lanes in the GPU and two SATA ports.
So new that it didn't even show up on BZ's video list.
Thank you buildzoid for not feeding the ‘epeen’ addiction with frametimes and noise normalized graphs, etc. I think most of the youtubers like comparing gpu numbers. Unfortunately they are unwittingly driving demand. I would love to see hacks that ‘uncripple’ gpus. For example a simple tutorial on how to use elmor’s dongle to unlock power.
I've had to use the CPUless bios flash feature a few times. Once on a x399 board for when the 2nd gen threadripper came out. Another time on the rampage vi encore, and I forget the other occasion. But its wicked nice to have.
I watched this because I wanted to know how the m.2 slots are wired and how the pcie lanes split up compared to the b550 aorus master where you ended up with pice 3.0 x8 connection on a graphic from 1 year ago and older. But that part is totally missing :(
Me: Overclkcing memory (suddendly crash) - PANIC
Also ME: I'll use the Motherboard LED Debug code to fix it - KALM.
LED DEBUG: You have a memory problem, go fix it , i'm not tellin you what it is - PANIC
Regarding the bios flashback, I only ever flash my bois this way and I managed to brick my motherboard and it recovered it for me it's my preferred option especially if you have a USB with an LED that shows it's working.
7:30 I have the msi mpg x570 gaming which also have one extra connector that is not needed, but i found that i can undervolt a bit further if i have it pluged in
Stock the 5950X will be around 100A on 8 Core Max Load (142W) or ~90A on 32T Max Load (~125W)... hope there's a good switching configured in the BIOS
Bruh I love that motherboards still have PS/2 ports. Model M gang.
I have a model M and it needs an adaptor to plug in the small PS/2
Apparently it's mostly for windows XP compatability.
I used to build Zoids (TOMY) every week with my Pocket money, how did you come by that name may i ask?
I think that 6-pin pcie power connector is on there to power something like a USB expansion card or something along those lines. For example i have a USB expansion card that requires a sata power cable to power it. I'll find out tomorrow, I'm getting this board used for $75. Not bad, $75 for a $300 mobo. Let's just pray that it actually works lol.
You know you have a good controller when it literally starts with XD.
Still no word on when it will actually release :(
In Japan the UNIFY is released on December 11th and the UNIFY-X on the 18th. Not sure about the rest of the world though.
the auto recovery works on ONE board for amd i have out of 4 and thats on the b450I gaming plus ac board. it literally will go right back to where it was if oc fails so long as its NOT way out of range and hard locks the system in bios...
This would be better if the BIOS flashback button was just somewhere on the board due to the infrequency of its usage and the spot on the rear I/O was just a power button or something.
6800XT???!.... :(
Especially the red devil 😳
This board is fun :)
Chance you've got bios A.04O or newer? I don't have the newest OC bios for Unify-X yet.
I use A.04O on the last livestream
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Can you send it to me? I'm in your server, should be easy to fine me
check out the b550m aorus pro p variant! looks like it could be a really good budget option! a comparison with the older non p variant would make great content for those working to a budget!
I had that board and the VRMs ran pretty warm. Would avoid tbh.
@@camotech1314 I've had it for 2 years. No issues or bugs as of yet. My vrms have been running really cool compared to my last board. (Asrock b450 pro 4) so all in all I'm happy with it. You deffo could do allot worse for a board!
I had a very strange issue with ASUS B550-F that Clear CMOS did not work well, the PC keep shutting down giving RAM issues, but when you remove the battery for some minutes it did started to work normally.
why is bios flashback always on the rear IO, when it'll be used like twice in a board's life. Why isn't something useful there like asus's safe boot or a switch between 2 bios chips.
I have no idea.
Probably convenience, you have to insert your thumbdrive in that designated USB slot and then press the button
@@yeojylesjin it doesn't't have to be that big though it's not on other MSI boards
@@mixit2413 the more expensive the board, the more features they put on them. It’s also real useful for overclockers to go back to a stable bios if they screw something up.
Thanks, was looking forward to this.. 3 weeks ago, before i switched to and preordered (cause there's no stock anywhere) the A. Extreme. I have no regrets now. But i do hope i'll get a comparison between crucial ballistix and the new trident z Neo for the 5950x. Especially 4x16(SR?) / 2x32 / 2x16 low-latency, high frequency variations. Will it be the CL14@3.8ghz or Cl16@4ghz or maybe CL18(32gb flavour)@4k? And please grace us with some recommendations (16 vs 32 samsung b die vs micro rev b?) soon..
You are awesome
BuildZoid is MY bestfriend:)
B550 unify vs x570 unify, both $300. which is a better option?
B550 Unfy X unless you need the extra PCI-e of the X570 chipset.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking because of the memory compatability and overall quality compared to the x570? I might return the x570 unify, should I go for another brand like ASUS to avoid all sorts of bios issues? I have been reading about lots of issues ppl are having with the MSI x570 boards and am really concerned
@@dennisw3892 the only major difference between the 2 is an extra 4.0 pcie 16 slot and 1 more 4.0 m.2 slot.
@@MikeJones-bl6lu cheers Mike, got me the B550 in the end and wouldn't go back, the sound Chip is better too, as well as insanly stable when OC.
@@dennisw3892 just bought one myself.
3:43 someone is going to get fired
Only 7+c rear usb ports is often a buildzoid-specific limitation though... 🤔
I'm guessing the 6 pin is for 3090s-- I've heard rumors that they have issues with transient draw on the PCIe slot.
you still can't run more than 1 of those and the 24pin is fine to around 200W.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking JonnyGuru was complaining about 3090 PCIe overdraw causing instability on the LTT forums a while ago so I suspect MSI noticed the same thing
i’m kinda sick of any other content apart from AHOC. Really might be some existential issues, but i don’t mind until i have mobo breakdowns
holy shit same
im sure some one has already asked this question, but Mr.Buildzoid would you mind do a pcb breakdowns of the new c8dh and b550xe?
Do a pcb breakdown of msi 3080 suprim x please.
neat ty
on my msi x370 the recovery works well and i used it a lot ; )
BZ, have you seen the Asus TUF X570-PRO? Seems identical to the TUF X570-Plus but adds BIOS Flashback, Intel LAN, Wifi 6, and an internal USB 3.2. Type C header for ~$220.
i struggle to understand the need for OC frendly Ryzen 7/9 8-16core VRM ready mortherboards, as long as the VRM can handle a 16core with PBO on, it should be plenty 99,5% of all users dont need more than that, since you need crasy cooling + a cherry picked sample to get ANY kind of good overclocks on ryzen chips. Isnt a MSI B550/X570 tomahawk or Gigabyte Aorus elite B550/X570 good enogh VRM whise for the 16cores ?
Hey bz, please do a video on hynix djr? It’s probably the most common chip on 3600 cl16 kits. Gtznc.
My 4070 won't care about running at 8x... and this supports CPU lane bifurcation.
Soooo tempted...
PowerColor Red Devil PCB breakdown please
are b550 or x570 better for ryzen5000? and for overclocking potential? please Im a new builder and subd
Better VRMs for over clocking. The biggest difference between b550 and x570 is PCIE 4.0 support. X570 has all lanes 4.0 ready while b550 limits you to the top x16 slot and at least the top m.2 slot for 4.0. Sli is effectively dead and for most users there’s really no reason to need multiple 4.0 m.2 drives. This board still has 3 4.0 m.2 drives.
First time i see a led + postcode.
it's the norm for MSI boards.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Meh, i must be getting blind.
Hey Buildzoid, what do you think about the ASUS B450 II Motherboards?
Hi Buildzoid, I have a Question: What is the Difference between EPS-12v (8-Pin EPS) and PCIe 8-Pin? EPS-12v Connectors can handle up to 384w, PCIe 8-Pins can handle a Maximum of 150w, Why is that? On the back of many power supplies, they use different cables but the same connectors (I am talking about the Back Of the PSU) for both EPS-12v and PCIe 8-Pin. Also, Why do GPU Manufacturers not use an EPS-12v 8 Pin, would it not be cheaper?
An EPS connector has 4x12V lines. A 8-pin PCIe only has 3x12V lines
How many more people watch breakdowns not understanding the basics of electronics?
More RTX 3080 PCB Breakdown ty
Is there a release date on this board?
Buildzoid does MSI B550 Unify (non X) have the same VRM setup? Is the only difference the ram slot setup?
Think so yes
Looks good
Why isn't 2 DIMM slots more common if it's that better ?
because 4 is a bigger number than 2 (marketing)
Release date ?
PCI-Express 4.0 x16, NVMe 1.3, what does the 4.0 x16 means? is it 4th gen and that it need to be slotted in the 16 pin slot?
From my limited knowledge
The 4.0 is the 4th gen from the PCIe slot
and the x16 is the speed
GPU can utilize full x16 speed, while PCIe NVMe SSD can only x4 speed
Please correct me if i am wrong
This Vs the Tomahawk x570?
Different price point. This B550 Unify-X is a ~$300 motherboard. The Tomahawk X570 is a $250 board. Tomahawk X570 has much less features for overclocking but perfectly good as a daily system. If you are not a hardcore overclocker, I would prefer the X570 Meg Unify instead. That is the best price vs performance AM4 board that is perfectly good for overclocking too. It is also a $300 board
@@fleurdewin7958 memory oCing use the X otherwise the extra 2 dimm slots are better.
What about the max supported speed and bandwidth shared between PCIe/M.2/SATA slots/ports?
Recently, it seems like dual-BIOS is a patent of Gigabyte. No one else uses it on their motherboards.
EVGA's Z490 Dark has 3, I guess it just isn't on the radar of some manufacturers.
My asus board has dual bios
@@Apollo-Computers Which ASUS board will that be?
X570 Godlike has dual BIOS.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking have to justify the cost somehow.
Hi sir.. I was thinking to buy this board to replace my trustee C6H. Its been almost 6 years with me, and still running flawless. Do you think it's a good idea? Thanks for reply.
I noticed my q code screen on my unify X reads cpu temps Im like wtf?
"Soo, yeah"
BZ - have you ever saved (to USB) a profile of an earlier version of a BIOS and tried to load it after an update?
Do profiles work across different versions, is what I'm trying to ask :)
Depends. On my ASUS B550 Strix-F, older profiles wouldn't work correctly. Messed up pretty much all saved values.
generally profiles don't work across BIOS versions.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Bugger - I put a lot of work in tuning this one!
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking if the board shows you what has changed before saving/exiting you could snap a photo after reseting to defaults. That has saved me a ton of time in the past. Especially when setting fan curves.
Is it wrong I only got the board because I liked the dragon?
Does it have dual bios?
And in comparison with x570s unify x max
Which would u choose?
32 gb sticks are all dual rank no quad rank so isnt the best setup for ryzen 4x16/32 for 8 ranks? bc 3200 with 4 ranks total is about equal to 3600 2 ranks total in games
Actually Hardcore Overclocking actually daily a test bench. :)))
Can’t seem to find a UK release date anywhere :[
Not sure if the UK release is the same but here in Japan the UNIFY is released on December 11th and the UNIFY-X on the 18th.
Mate that's really kind - thanks for the reply @@Chewie373
Did you get this board in the end?
Why is the rear I/o facing up? such a dumb design... /s
at first I thought it actually was, and was fine with it if its meant to be an overclocking / bench board but I guess thats dumb if you want to sell alot of them
Wait, did MSI stop using the 8pins at the top to supply extra power to the PCIEX16 slot or slots depending on the board?
I know they do it on board like the x570 Unify and with the new GPUs being so damned power hungry doesn't it help a bit?
Thanks BZ I always watch your content before buying any board now and would really like to know...
what are you talking about? there are 2 8 pin cpu connectors at the top of the board. you only need one for proper operation. especially on good power supply that has a strong single 12v rail it's basically redundant and pointless to plug one in. i guess they do it because of power supplies that come with cables for it. plus your gpu get's it's own plug.
are you sure you should be messing around with the inside of your computer?
This at $300 or Aorus Master b550 at $250? That's the current going rate for both boards... I'd love that rear CMOS clear on the Aorus but it's not there. I'm going to run a 3800x for now but 5900x when I get it with 2x16gb TEAM xtreme ARBG 3600c14 (hoping to push 3800c14).
I guess unify-x it is.... :)
I thought B chipsets don't expose all the RAM timings relevant to memory overclocking so why would they bother? Or is it that the manufacturers just cut corners in the BIOS on B350?
Even A520 has all the same RAM settings as X570. the chipset doesn't do anything except change how many PCI-e lanes you get from it.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Guess it was either just a first generation thing or I'm remembering wrong. Thanks for the clarification.
What's the chip to the right of the vrms nearer the cpu socket? that area is masked on the x570 unify but not populated.
You say this is the 2nd best board for memory overclocking that you have tested, what is the 'best' you have tested?
I think his "best" has been the B550 Aorus Master
How to fix coil whine on these cpu VRMs? It’s pretty loud
This or the X570 unify because if the prices are the same I’d just go straight to X570
Except that the X570 Unify has four dimm slots, which probably makes it worse for memory OC. For general use, I agree completely.
@@d00dEEE ah that's right, this is the X board so this is purely great for overclocking.
@@asterisk4424 yeah the non-X b550 Unify is the more apples to apples comparison.
Hes back bois
MSI B550 Unify (non x) or ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero?
-5900x
- dual rank 3800 cl 14
unless you need the X570 chipset the UnifyX is better
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Damn that was fast. Thanks BZ! Appreciate it dude. Love your work.
If I am not a hardcore overclocker, will this board benefit me in any way? I have b-die 2x16 3200cl14 and am running it at 3600cl14, I don't really have the knowledge or experience to feel like I can safely run it faster than that. I want to get the x570 ace because I love the look of it (I know, I know... form over function?), but if the b550 unify-x is going to make a difference for my use case of ram overclocking, then I will definitely consider it.
RGB vs a 4th nvme slot. It’s your choice.
I WANT but im pretty sure it costs more than my car.
what is a typical max amp value for the chokes ? (in order not to overload it)
Worst flaw of the board: worse availability than big Navi
it hasn't released yet
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Yeah I'm counting from the paper launch day. The paper launch (at least in Chinese speaking countries) is October 27th, the day before big Navi. At least some big Navi cards are shipped out and received by the customers, not this board yet and still counting.
On my b450 Gaming Pro Carbon BIOS, I have an option to have it retry up to 10 times for memory retraining. Should I use this? I haven't really noticed this doing anything when I break everything. :)
help me out here....
steve said Zen3 performs better with all dimm slots populated... so in his case 4
does that mean this b550 unify x will always perform worse, or better, or... im confused ^^
Steve was saying it for keeping dual rank per channel (4x single rank 8gb) but you can buy single dimms with dual rank (16gb each). When doing pure memory OC it is always better to do two sticks and not four. Steve was saying it purely for memory efficiency on zen3.
this motherboard or the b550 taichi?
So what's the dif between the B550 Unify and Unify-X?
4 ram slots Vs 2 ram slots
MSI Unify X + 2x16gb 3600mhz cl16 gskill or MSI unify + 2x(2x8gb) 4400mhz cl19 viper steel kit?
planning on putting 5800x3d and the ram choice is limited here in my country
5800X3D is ram blind
a good 45min lesson!