The last time I did the 200 lightning bolts I decided that counting them was giving me anxiety so I just dodged until I got hit and I ended up dodging 498 in a row.
I totally see that, but I actually find doing the lightning kinda chill. In big part because you kinda need No Encounters to make it feasible: I have to keep track of the number myself, but it’s ALL I have to keep track of until I finish.
Very similar. I was pretty confident when I saw the title card that was going to be the side quest. I've done it at least two times, maybe three times. Although never in the era of achievements. Always for PS2 only, and I think I was in the similar range number between 300 and 400. It's been a few years though.
Use No Encounters. Turn brightness up on game and turn lights off in room. Dodge 25 then pause and shake it out. 25 is easy. Just do that 8 times. TAKE THE BREAKS!
I did the Lightning Dodge for FF X but I feel like the chocobo race thing with the birds and balloons to receive a time of 0 was way harder. Also, the trophy for 1,000 consecutive jump ropes in FF IX was just evil in my opinion and considerably harder. But that’s just my opinion.
totally agree. I only fluked my way throught the chocobo quest once. The lightning is kinda painful since you need to keep your focus up for about half an hour, but otherwise not as hard at the chocobo one
100% agree. Lightning dodging isn't even that hard, it's just mind-numbing. You just need to find the right spot, shut down your brain and you'll easily do the whole thing on auto-pilot. I lost count while doing it and "accidentally" dodged 300 in a row instead of the required 200 times. Chocobo racing is far, far worse because it actually requires your attention, it's awfully random, and the mechanics of the entire mini-game are horribly broken.
I may be in the minority, but the butterflies and chocobo race are at least kinda short, so I've made them with practice. Dodging 200 bolts was too gruelling to finish for me.
I completed the 200 lightning dodges once for Lulu's weapon Once. Never ever again. The other frustrating side-quest in FFX was the chocobo racing for Tidus' weapon. The birds are nearly uncontrollable, the balloons have to be lined up JUST right, and the trainer you're racing needs to have a bad run on top of it all.
Yes to both of these, though I actually hated that other paths race with the chests in the adjacent area more, specifically getting all the chests in a single run (I think it was 5 chests?). The stupid chocobos liked to run into the walls slowing you down, and the frustration of having to wait for the chest opening and jumping animation to finish, and also getting it done only for the opponent to just get ahead with his noticeably slower bird, but they took up the whole path meaning you were stuck following behind them as they inevitably won. It actually took me comparatively few tries to do those plains races with the balloons. I think I managed to do the hardest one in just a handful of runs (luck more than skill, I'm sure).
The lightning part is easy as long as you use the crater that always triggers them. annoying but easy. the chocobo is more annoying that is if you don't get the right balloon spawns. there's a couple possible spawns but one of them gives you a lot of balloos in a ow and it also let's you cut the corner at the start in a way that pretty much makes the other guy stay behind you the whole time. Just dodge the birds and gg. last time i played the game i got them back to back on the last challenge and the first where you can get the item and got both at 0 seconds easy
Getting all of the animals in RDR2 was indeed tough, but honestly, it was worth it to see Abigail come up with increasingly convoluted ways of getting it off of the mantel.
Honestly when i saw this I thought she was going to make you her next work of art. And the final scene would be you in a display museum at her ranch titled the animal hunter.
Honestly when i saw this I thought she was going to make you her next work of art. And the final scene would be you in a display museum at her ranch titled the animal hunter.
@@alexandersmit4256 No kidding, but I don't know if it's more unsettling to think that she went miles away to the top of a mountain just to get it away from her (instead of throwing it in a fire) or if it's somehow alive and infused with John's adventurous spirit.
As a few people have already pointed out, you get more than just a bronze trophy for dodging the lightning. You get an item required for Lulu's ultimate weapon. It also allows Shiva to break damage limit, as Aeons are tied to specific characters for that. And honestly, Final Fantasy X could easily have had multiple entries on this list if ultimate weapons are not worth it. God damn butterfly minigame. And chocobo racing. And some would say the same about blitzball, but I enjoyed that one personally.
The butterfly minigame turned out to be pretty easy for me, because the Japan-only FF10 Ultimania book actually had a map with a very clear path to follow and lots of people have posted or re-created it online.
The lightning dodging was fine for me, since there are a couple spots where it always strike thrice in a row. The Chocobo racing was downright impossible though. I had to have a friend come over and win those for me.
The taxidermied squirrel could be an allegory for as you said it "the doomed cowboy" you can run, scamper and scurry, but in the end, you're always going to be brought back home
As someone who has 100% red dead redemption 2. I can say from my experience the worst side quest was find all the dinosaur bones - just for the old gal to show you the monstrosity she's put together in a shed.
I never managed to finish the orchids and feathers. As soon as I realised I had to find more different kinds than the first couple (which took me hours) I just couldn't. Those collectibles are the reason why I didn't 100%. Kudos to you though!
It isn't even the hardest one. I'd rather dodge 200 lightning bolts in a row on a daily basis than having to get 0 seconds on Catcher Chocobo or the Butterfly Catching minigame again.
I learned how to play Hollow Knight so much better after doing the delicate flower quest. Can pretty much do it every time without fail nowadays so it was a good learning experience.
With good pathing and clearing out major enemies beforehand getting TO the final room is very simple, but I tend to screw up the final dashes and hit the spikes half the time. Considering she called the flower "one of a kind' I thought you only get one chance per playthrough. My very first time playing I felt so proud I made it to the final room, and then I goofed it right at the end. Thankfully, she has an infinite amount of these "one of a kind" flowers, but that was such a buzzkill after being so careful.
Never had a problem with the path of pain, it is just pure platforming with a simple route and there are plenty of platformers at that difficulty.@@CGE1224
Completed the FFX lightning bolt challenge a couple of times. Trick is to find a spot where the lightning rhythm is predictable (guides can be found online) and pause the game after every 20 lightning dodges or so to rest your hands. Also, correction: this task is required to unlock Lulu's ultimate weapon.
Yeah, a better option would have been all the celestial weapons, tbh. As the lightning bolts, chocobo race, butterflys, and blitzball league are all the biggest complaints about the game. And the only reason most people engage with them for as long as they do is because of the celestial weapons. So better to just group them all together.
The worst part about dodging the lightning bolts is that you need to do it for one of two upgrade items to fully unlock lulu’s ultimate weapon. Even if you make your own identical weapon, it won’t be as good as the games fully unlocked ultimate weapon.
I wish they would just allow your to buy the weapons oer the PlayStation store. The game is so old who cares about dodging the lightning plus I know so many people that will never get her weapon because of that stupid challenge.
The robotics club in lost judgement is actually not that bad. It LOOKS tedious and annoying, but it's honestly one of the easier parts of the school story in that game. Instead of positioning blocks like splatoon, if you just make a path directly for the enemy's base, you instantly win every match
I was honestly more frustrated by the biker club & photography club missions ( seriously I hate the biker races & I just can't get the timing right on the 2nd of the 3 photography missions )than the robotics club...I'd still rather put myself through all the school story stuff than put up with the Keihin gang bullshit from Judgement though, they just suck the fun out of the game with their annoying constant attacks
Shadow of the Colossus would be perfect for this list. You could hunt down 79 obscurely placed, barely visible coins throughout the game, spread through a sprawling but mostly empty map, that when finally collected unlocked some secret weapon, but by that point there was hardly any use for it.
I wouldn't call this a Side Quest. Like, it's not even acknowledged by the trophy list or challenges. Anyway, I did this. I love my Dormin Sword and will surely do it again when I feel like 100%ing SotC once more in a few decades from now lol
Not just that, you have to have beaten the game at least once or twice so u can climb the tower for one of them. It's a damn nightmare hearing them lol
I had no clue what this was... had to google that it was added to the PS4 version. As I've only ever played the PS2 original release I was confused, lol
@@natashaw.7315 True. I believe I had beaten the game 5 times by the time I got all the timed challenges and had enough stamina to climb up the shrine. Now, that's not bad on its own compared to that plus a 15-minute walk on foot across the bridge to the entrance of the Forbidden Lands for a coin, and if you don't know what you're doing, at least two more climbs to jump halfway through the bridge to land in very specific locations for two more coins. They're a pain, but getting them all is priceless.
Spider-Man is pretty well known for losing backpacks, as they can get stolen or left miles away while he's busy with hero duties. As someone who frequently ruins his backpacks (including the Spider-Man backpack I used in third grade), I can easily relate.
Path of pain is much harder… Of course, if you, like their video editors did, take the flower TO the Path of Pain, I guess that is harder… Why on earth you’d do that is anyone’s guess, but yeah…
Path of pain at least has a cool name. You can tell anyone you completed the path of pain and even if they don't play hollow knight , your bound to get some gamer cred. Tell em you did the flower quest and they will just shrug ackwardly.
Agreed. POP is always going to be troublesome, but the flower quest can be made much simpler. Pick the simplest route, kill all the enemies, and DON'T SIT AT A BENCH!!! While very minor enemies will respawn, tougher enemies will NOT respawn until you sit at a bench and save. The route I take thus has very little resistance, and the only real hazard is the spikes leading into and in the final room. As long as you have the Dream Nail teleport you can keep respawning at the Grey Mourner's hut if you fail so you don't have to walk all the way back.
The key to the delicate flower quest is that not all fast travel is banned. While you can’t ride on the bug taxi, you CAN ride the train. It’s still hard but significantly less so.
@@NDRogueElf I was thinking the same exact thing-- you should barely even have to go through the Ancient Basin, much less the White Palace, to get back to the Queens Garden. Unless you for some reason wanna bring the flower on a world tour or something (which sounds like straight up torture)
I love how OX emphasizes sawblades in the delicate flower quest like people think they need to complete the Path of Pain with the flower in their inventory.
This seems like a perfect opportunity to remind you that _Super Mario RPG_ was not the last time you had to jump 100 times consecutively as Mario. The other occasion was in _Super Mario Odyssey_ with that accursed jump rope in New Donk City. I had to glitch out my game so Mario floated and leave the controller alone just to 100% the game, and that's the only thing preventing me from playing the game ever again.
The crater being used at 7:14 makes the lightning dodging pretty doable. It's really easy compared to dodging random strikes. Getting a 0 second time on the chocobo race is much more RNG reliant and could take way longer than 200 dodges using the crater trick.
@@marhawkman303as much as I hate catcher chocobo, I don’t think I will ever do the 200 lightning bolts ever again. Tidus is much better than lulu in the post game and even though catcher chocobo can take some time, dodging lightning is going to eat at least 30 minutes per attempt if you screw up as you get closer to 200. Personally, I just prefer to use the dark matters you get from the monster arena to make her a weapon.
@@TSfish94 A custom weapon will never be as good as the celestial weapons because of their hidden passive defense ignoring property. I find Lulu to be a bit underrated. Even though her limit break is horrible her celestial weapon is very good. Her damage scales off of MP instead of HP so she does full damage after being revived at half HP from a phoenix down. Save your dark matters for a ribbon armor!
@@kayleighcarr4956 I feel you because I have choked at 180+ before. That was a solid 15 minutes down the drain. I don't mind it though because it is fully within your control. If you keep trying the nerves will take over less and less and you'll get it eventually.
I love how polite John Marston is when he finds someone crazy 😂 one of the things about the character that made me fall for him was the fact that, despite he knowing the violent skills of a criminal, he shows that he really tries to live a more righteous life. I like RDR and GTA IV to the point that I did those side quests, more than once 😂
I did the Super Mario RPG one. What you fail to mention is that, at least in the remake, the window of success gets progressively smaller as you get closer to the goal. Once you're past 80, you have to basically be pixel perfect to keep the chain going. Also, the Attack Scarf and Super Suit aren't even really needed unless you're trying to beat Culex 3D specifically. Everything else can be done pretty easily without that gear.
Not sure how hard it necessarily was overall, but trying to complete all of the Mushroom XIII challenges in KH2 tested me a fair bit, especially the one you have to juggle outside Yen Sid's tower
its not that they were impossible, it just required you to completely change the way you played the game up till that point. good idea in theory, rough in practice @@brandonp7503
I'd put that in as harder than Lightning Dodging tbh. Mushroom 8 can go jump in a lake as far as I'm concerned. It was more relief when I finally beat him then any semblance of joy.
The only mushroom I loathed was the juggling one and that’s because I didn’t know there was tech to make it easy. Tried multiple time to actually combo until I learned you can get it into a corner and just have it bounce up and down
I do remember going for those pigeons (I did the 100% in 2 weeks, for the 'key to the city' contest Rockstar ran). I was following a guide, thought I'd got all 200, only to find I had 199. Had to go all over the city again trying to find the one I'd missed. Argh.
This reminds me of those stupid flags in the first Assassins Creed game all over the kingdom. I somehow missed one and had to search all over again. And this was back when the guides were actually not that accurate.
This is always the worst part of collectibles for me. That point where you are just missing a handful but have no clue which ones you are missing and therefore have to sift through a list one by one to figure out which ones you overlooked. That kind of experience was the point that I just swore off collectibles in games unless there was some interesting gameplay attached to them.
Seriously, use the parts or ai that makes your ally bots hunt the enemy team then just grab the parts and build strait towards the enemy base while the enemy team is dead the whole game. Honestly, it was easy.
Some lunatic took the regular path and made it WAY worse than Path of Pain by making it a "Floor is Lava" challenge. Got through White Palace without touching the ground except where the game forces it after screen transitions. Hollow Knight - White Palace - The Floor is Lava Challenge [Hitless] - 5:47.69
Delicate Flower isn't _that_ hard. Clear out all the enemies along your path first. As long as you don't stop at a bench they won't respawn. I've done that quest plenty of times... And you get a Mask Shard for doing it, which is a great reward. The Path of Pain is a much harder challenge in Hollow Knight. I've done it, but only once. Steel Soul Mode (which deletes your save file if you _ever_ die) I'd say is a harder challenge than the Delicate Flower, but easier than The Path of Pain. _____ I didn't legitimately get the 100 jumps in Mario RPG. I used save states to do it. Part of the difficulty is that the timing actually changes at some point while you're doing it... (I forget which jump number exactly it changes on.)
I’ve done the FF10 challenge - lighting bolts was fine. But that Chocobo race with 0.0 time, can’t do… I hate it with such disdain! Hollow knight, love and did both to get my trophies.
no chance the path of pain was harder than steel soul. frankly, I didn't find the path of pain as hard as some people are making it. more tedious than anything.
@@jamesherb4384 If you've played through the game a few times and are moderately careful (and skip over some of the harder optional content like the Grimm Troupe), Steel Soul should only really take a few tries and it's a fun run along the way. Hiveblood does guarantee completion of The Path of Pain eventually if you're patient, but I'm pretty sure I waited for that mask to refill over a hundred times to beat it, and it was all just precision & practice while repeating the same things over and over again, which isn't great for enjoyment value. Between the two I find it a lot easier to play through Steel Soul.
The delicate flower quest in hollow knight isn’t particularly hard if you clear out the enemies beforehand The hardest part was the bit of platforming at the end where you had to dodge the thorns. That definitely got my palms sweating but overall, I say it took me less than 20 minutes
Thank you. I said the same thing in my comment. That one wasn't bad at all. Should have been Path of Pain of Godhome, THOSE are challenging sidequests. Oh or even Grimm Troupe if you chose the ending where you fight Nightmare Grimm.
0:13 Actually, there's an in-game lore explanation for the backpacks: he got a lifetime supply of backpacks as part of the Fisk science award he earned as a kid. I did actually collect all of them (and all the spider bots in the new one).
6:54, "Dodging *beep* lightning" for some reason that really tickled my funny bone XD But yeah, having actually done said quest 2 or 3 times before I agree, it's a royal pain in the butt. One tip, get flipping "no encounters" ability before you try (it IS possible to get this on/by your 1st visit), also ready your thumb for the flash of lightning that comes before, it's during this timing that you can guarantee dodging it.
I’ve done Red Dead II’s hunting requests trice and it’s not as tedious as Genshin’s world quests from Sumeru. To this day, I never finished the Aranara quests and stopped once I unlocked the Tree of Dreams.
I mean, for the 200 lightning dodges, you get a Venus Sigil that unlocks the half the full power of Lulu's ultimate weapon. It's really hard to tough through it to unlock her full power.
For rdr2 there are many, many contenders. The taxidermy quest is certainly up there, but I'd also put the exotics quest where you have to find flowers (among other things) all over the entire map, and my personal most hated thing in rdr2...the gambler challenges, most notably #8 where you have to win 3 hands of black jack while hitting 3 times each. Spending hours even getting a hand where you don't bust hitting 3 times and then STILL losing or pushing and having it not count is one of the most rage inducing things I've ever endured lol.
@@chloe.imogen I don't blame you. I've actually 100% twice. The second time was to see how many things I could do as Arthur (including getting the stuff from New Austin using the wagon trick). The gambler challenge was 10000x more frustrating than the invisible sniper lol.
For the lightning dodging, there's a spot where you can reliably time the lightning strikes, so once you get in a rhythm it's not so bad. But the chocobo race where you have to get less than 0s time was infuriating. So rng!
I actually did the Mario RPG one as a kid. I remember finding a spot I liked against an enemy that was slightly easier to time. And then trying for hours and hours. I did eventually get it and was so excited. The Super Suit it gives you makes you ridiculously powerful from that point forward, so it’s worth it if you can do it. That save where I had it is probably long gone along with the battery in that SNES cart, and no I don’t think I’ll ever do it again.
When Jane is describing the lightning dodging and having to get 200 consecutive dodges the gameplay video shows a spot where you can farm the dodges, where the player is looping around the second you step into that ditch lightning always strikes so you can pre-plan your dodge and constantly run in a small circle there. But as @khaela632 points out lower down, it was the butterfly hunt that got me.
The robotics club sidequest wasn't SO bad compared to other stuff the team have put in their games. I found it to be less difficult than the toy car racing in Yakuza 0 and Kiwami, just really grindy.
When I played through Bloodlines as Toreador and Brujah I maxed Celerity, which I came to realise was effectively the easy mode of the game. Those where the only runs I manage to defeat all the zombies 😅 (And then, coincidentally, I got the two worst endings for those two characters 😅)
Malkavian is an excellent second play-through, when you can actually recognise all the apparently crazy things you can say as being relevant to things that happen.
The flower quest in Hollow Knight isn't too bad, just a fun challenge. A few tries, the right charms, and avoiding the hardest routes and it's not bad at all!
I’ll have you know I DID in fact find a place for the squirrel statue in red dead 2 and it was the most extensive task I’ve ever completed in my entire 25 years of life. Glad I did it though as I felt accomplished after doing the side quest.
My mother did the 200 bolts. I went to ask a question and she had to start over.. she was at 180 . so i guess she did 380... I still have not lived it down
The delicate flower quest is actually pretty necessary to get the last mask fragment plus it's way easier if you clear the monsters out before picking up the flowers... now giving the delicate flowers to other characters for achievements is a whole other story tbh
Haven't done this sidequest yet, but I'm curious now- can you give the flowers to other bugs and then just go back to get new flowers, or can you only pick one single recipient for the flower per game, gotta start all over once you've made your delivery?
@@goranisacson2502 You can do that before and after the quest because once you complete the quest you can pick up new flowers from the grave - makes some routes easier, others harder
My family has many backpacks. One for supplies to keep in the car, two for travel, another for use in parks, to take to work, and a gaming backpack....there may be more. But in a moment's notice, any items meant for any of the packs is ready to go. Which is good in case of emergency.
I have completed that Hollow Knight "Delicate Flower" quest and boy is it one that you basically have to set aside an afternoon for. Since Hollow Knight is rather Souls-like, many enemies don't respawn until you rest, though smaller ones will respawn if you simply leave their area. So for this quest, you can clear the way of tougher enemies before picking up the flower. This, of course, takes some time. All well and good until one slightly missed jump or one minor enemy gets a lucky shot on you near the end sees you take a bit of damage and all of that is for naught and you have to do it again. . All that just to get a mask shard. 😓
Dodging the lightning wasn't even the worst of it! It got you a piece to get Lulu's ultimate weapon, and there was a crater you didn't even need to move to get struck if you got the timing you were gold...ish I mean it still took ages BUT to get Titas' ultimate you had to win a dang near impossible chocobo race so hard it's just stupid
Chocobo race is RNG. You just keep playing until it happens to load a bunch of balloons in the right path directly in front of you. You can’t win unless the balloons are just right, and that’s just RNG. Just commit for a few hours.
@@Trevin_Taylor just blew my mind and got me mighty upset at that hahahaha boooo lol I had no idea, my hyper competent friend got his own even better friend to do it for him and apparently he just barely made it, but then we lost him so for almost two decades I've believed it was a lost cause.. lordy Still my favourite game..
Oh my gosh, when I saw Super Mario RPG I thought for sure I would have it done. As someone who managed to do the 200 lightning strikes in FFX (not once, but twice because my partner wanted it too and couldn't get it), I completely forgot that I was unable to get the 100 jumps. I'm 100% convinced that the timing changed as you got higher numbers because I swear I can easily get to 30+, but it would usually fall off around 50-70. Never even got close to 100
You need the jump ring and jump shoes. Jump ring makes jumping easier and shoes counter the hat/cap/spike mechanism. The shoes may be called something else, but I know it’s jump ring.
I did the 200 lighting bolt dodges back when the game was released on PS2. Had to get that sigil for Lulu's best weapon. Also did the delicate flower quest in Hollow Knight, which was a major pain to do but I think the Path of Pain is far worse. I still haven't completed that yet!
I dodged the 200 lightning way back in the PS2 day. I remember equipping a zero encounters item and going to a place they would reliably fall down at and just went for it. You learn to time it so it was not that bad honestly. Way easier than the butterfly thing you need to do for Khimahri's weapon, or capturing 10 of each monster. No idea why either of those didn't get mentioned instead
Had a friend who beat the lightning bolt challenge for me. That's how you know you have a good friend. He has even got 175 consecutive dodges once before a bolt hit him.
The FFX quest was part of the quest for Lulu’s ultimate weapon and was kind of annoying but really not that bad if you have No Encounters. I actually found the Chocobo race across the plains (I think for Titus’s ultimate weapon) to be way more annoying.
I did the Red Dead Redemption 2 quest mentioned here - in fact it is the only Rockstar game I have ever gotten 100% in, I loved it. Also got the lightning dodger for FFX, but Kimahri's butterfly challenge was so much harder for me being colourblind. I could not see the butterflies, so I had to study maps and TH-cam runs and mimic what they did with precision timing - it was brutal, but hey I got the platinum, eh?~
I JUST did the 200 lightning dodges in FF-X HD a few days ago, the anxiety is the hardest part and the closer you get to 200 the worse it gets. I usually enjoy playing FFX ever couple years or so but, I ALWAYS dread dodging that lightning for Lulu's damn weapon.
I always just make ultimate weapons for the characters who's ultimate weapons suck to get. I think I only ever got Yuna, Auron, and Rikku's legitimate ultimate weapons.
I have weirdly fond memories of dodging lightning. I would just kind of zone out to everything else and find a zen state dodging. I seem to recall there being some reward more than a trophy, but maybe that's in the remake. I think you needed to do it to power up one of the character's weapons or something.
I have a friend who always 100% Final Fantasy games. He is the sort of guy who did a run of FF8 where he spent roughly 5 hours grinding levels and magic in the opening combat area before going to finish the tutorial by getting Ifrit. As in, late game mobs (the T-Rex) were spawning and he had level 3 magic before progressing.
See the trick with the Delicate Flower Quest is to plan the route in advance. Go from your goal back to the quest giver, defeating all enemies on the way. If you never sit in a bench the entire way, enemies don’t respawn, so then all you have to worry about is environmental hazards. Still, a lot easier than also worrying about enemies.
I have completed the Delicate Flower quest and honestly it's way easier if you still have Kingsoul by the time you do it, which is what I did. Though in all honesty Kingsoul is kind of a cheat code, which is why they rip it out of your hands to get every ending except one.
Do you mean because you can attack enemies from a distance for safety? It's really not necessary if you clear the path ahead of time and don't sit on any benches. Very minor enemies like the Goomba clones always respawn when you enter a room, but tougher enemies never respawn until you sit at a bench again. With the path I take this leads to very few enemy encounters, leaving only environmental hazards. Really, only the final room with it's spikes poses any threat.
I remember lightning minigame being less frustrating than playing Blitzball for Wakka's Celestial. Maybe because I was, like, 13-14 when I was doing it, so my reflexes weren't as bad as today or maybe because it was for Lulu.
The lightning one wasn't as bad as the blitzball one. I hated getting Wakka's ultimate weapon. I also got the delicate flower. THAT was a pain in the ass. Geez! I did the Mario RPG one as well. Awesome!
You're right. I have never completed the lightning dodge minigame for two reasons. 1) Who needs Lulu when I have Yuna and her weapon is SOOOOO much easier to unlock than Lulu's? 2) F*CK THAT MINIGAME!
@@Latias38 Ah, I see thanks. I had to do all 200 in one go cuz I wanted to gather everyone's Ultimate Weapons, though I was on the remaster, and I was told you could save your progress on the original and reload if you fucked up but I could never validate this, I don't have FFX on PS2 anymore
Similar to the Hollow Knight quest, Nier Replicant had package delivery quests in act 1. The package was delicate and was stupidly easy to break and made a wonderful shattering noise when it was damaged.
was wondering what the ffx entry was going as there are a few tedious things side quests that lead to getting the ultimate weapons for each character, managed to complete the lightning dodge one with not to much trouble once i learnt of the good spot to complete it.
Exactly. I didn’t think it was that hard to dodge the lightning years ago when I played it. It wasn’t only until recently that I’ve been reading about how hard some people found it.
Agreed. Near the north end of the thunder plains was a spot with 3 bolts that had the same timing every time you approached the spot the first bolt hit. Basically it became 67 dodges once you got the button press timing down right
I remember completing the lightning one!! I thought the chocobo time trial with Tidus was harder, where you had to pop all the balloons! I was 15 years old 20 years ago when I completed it 😅 could never put myself through that again 🤣🤣
The VtM:B quest is MEANT to be extremely difficult and the weapon you get for it is pretty strong IF you have enough of points in firearms to make the scope useable (Romero does boost your firearms stat permanently by 1 point upon completion, too), but, thanks to the buggy nature of the game, it can be completed by doing next to nothing until the timer runs out. As soon as Romero exits, run out the building and make your way to the mausoleum at the far end of the cemetery. If you set up camp at either side of the mausoleum building, the zombies will stop attacking the gates and SLOWLY make their way towards you. All you need to do is shoot them when they get close enough until the counter runs out, by which point Romero returns and the quest is complete. It wasn't fun and the alternative methods (sleeping with him if you are playing as a woman with more than 7 points in Seduction or fetching him a prostitute if you're not) are less tedious, but the reward isn't as good. Killing the zombies nets you 3 EXP and +1 to firearms, whereas the alternative gives you 2 EXP and you get to choose between +1 to firearms or 100$ or thereabouts. The money sounds good in theory, but EXP is far more important, not to mention that +1 to firearms is preferable to money anyway, at least in my opinion.
Honestly, 1 EXP doesn't really make that much difference by that point. And if you absolutely have to run between the gates to kill zombies, an axe or a sword (or Protean claws) is a far better weapon than bare fists - zombies are resistant to bashing weapons.
@@Whyteroze28 I find the Chocobo race is dependent on which set of balloons you get. Based on where the first few balloons spawn I generally know if I have a shot or not. Also, if playing on PC, try lowering the graphics for that part. It made a world of difference for me at the time
I managed it on PS2 no sweat, but cuz of how it is on PS3... And I could not agree more on those fecking balloons! The butterflies wasn't so bad, though!
I did the delicate flower in Hollow Knight. Sure, it took a few tries but if you plan a smart route instead of trying to brute-force the closest, I don't think it's THAT bad! Hell, I spent more time collecting feathers in Assassins Creed and collecting Bazory Gems (or whatever they're called) in Skyrim!
I did the ff10 lightening quest... I was so broke at the time I bought this game with all my extra money and played it for 3 months straight cause I couldn't afford to do anything else
I not only completed the delicate flower quest, but I also completed the hunter’s journal, beat the trial of the fool and made it through the path of pain. Yes, I am quite proud of myself.
Did the 200 lightning strikes in FFX after quite a few attempts but eventually got it. However, back when it came out on PS2, the reward wasn't a bronze trophy, it was an Ultimate weapon/equilment for a character, Kumari I think.
I've done 3 out of the 7 (Hollow Knight, FFX, RDR2). I actually liked hunting in RDR so I don't remember that one being bad, but it did take a while. The Hollow Knight one isn't hard at all if you just plan a good route and kill everything along the way before hand (some stuff will respawn, but only the weakest enemies). Dodging lightning in FFX on the other hand...that one was a long time ago, but I still remember it being very tedious. I'm surprised the Hollow Knight one wasn't Path of Pain or Godhome or even Grimm Troupe, now THOSE are challenging sidequests.
The Bloodlines sidequest isn't actually too bad if you use the fire axe, shinto blade, or the knife. the forward slash strikes downwards and if you hit the head it one-shots them exploding them instantly, making keeping both gates clear relatively easy. I actually look forward to that quest!
To make justice: - You CAN see how many lightning bolts you have in a row at the cactuar statue in front of the Thunder Plains inn. - The reward isn't a bronze trophy, it's one of lulu's ultimate weapon pieces.
I did the lightning dodging in FFX back on PS2 and had the most issues with the butterfly catching. Managed to do all the things and get all the celestial weapons in FFX finally during lockdown when I had a little more time...
I only ever beat the zombie defense mission in Vtm:B once, and I did indeed spend every last blood point on Celerity. Helped that I was using the fireaxe and sometimes a lucky swing would connect with their head first for a one-hit kill. Another side-quest not worth doing is getting the true ending(?) of Payday 2. IIRC, you have to, with no direction, find certain items in certain heists, use them to riddle out a puzzle in your hideout, write down the translation it gives you, then go through some extra steps in the White House heist to open a secret door that has you slowly putting in that translation (better not get a single letter wrong!) WHILE fending off ghost cloakers or something. This is expected to take about an hour, and since the ghost cloakers don't drop ammo, you'd better bring nothing but ammo bags. Not helping is that I think you need three friends who've also done all the steps to pull it off, but I'll stick to watching that ending on TH-cam, thanks.
Did the FFX lightning dodging on PC. Even with double speed enabled to make the job go by faster, and knowing the trick of the crater it was a little nerve wracking, especially as one gets close to the goal. Having to keep a count in your head made it worse.
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I can't believe those stupid gems in Skyrim didn't make the list. I can't think of a more grueling and not worth it quest
It makes every other list they probably gave it Xmas off.
Honestly if you just look it up it’s not that hard and it makes you stupid rich since gems appear everywhere
@@leuxmas578 Aren't the unusual gem spawns random?
Not only have I never finished, I've downloaded a mod that marks all the gems on your map and still not finished it.
@@storytellingchampion6438nope, all of them are fixed, but some can only be collected during a quest.
The last time I did the 200 lightning bolts I decided that counting them was giving me anxiety so I just dodged until I got hit and I ended up dodging 498 in a row.
I totally see that, but I actually find doing the lightning kinda chill. In big part because you kinda need No Encounters to make it feasible: I have to keep track of the number myself, but it’s ALL I have to keep track of until I finish.
I did it once, on PS2. I no longer have my PS2 and I just can't bear the thought of doing it in the PC remaster.
IMPRESSIVE!!! *Bows down before you*
Very similar. I was pretty confident when I saw the title card that was going to be the side quest. I've done it at least two times, maybe three times. Although never in the era of achievements. Always for PS2 only, and I think I was in the similar range number between 300 and 400. It's been a few years though.
Use No Encounters. Turn brightness up on game and turn lights off in room. Dodge 25 then pause and shake it out. 25 is easy. Just do that 8 times. TAKE THE BREAKS!
I did the Lightning Dodge for FF X but I feel like the chocobo race thing with the birds and balloons to receive a time of 0 was way harder. Also, the trophy for 1,000 consecutive jump ropes in FF IX was just evil in my opinion and considerably harder. But that’s just my opinion.
It's even worse because if you get a score of 0.0 you can still fail. You need a NEGATIVE score, but the counter only goes down to 0
I completely agree. It was easier to do the lightning challenge than the Chocobo one. I didn't even finish it.
totally agree. I only fluked my way throught the chocobo quest once.
The lightning is kinda painful since you need to keep your focus up for about half an hour, but otherwise not as hard at the chocobo one
100% agree. Lightning dodging isn't even that hard, it's just mind-numbing. You just need to find the right spot, shut down your brain and you'll easily do the whole thing on auto-pilot. I lost count while doing it and "accidentally" dodged 300 in a row instead of the required 200 times. Chocobo racing is far, far worse because it actually requires your attention, it's awfully random, and the mechanics of the entire mini-game are horribly broken.
I may be in the minority, but the butterflies and chocobo race are at least kinda short, so I've made them with practice.
Dodging 200 bolts was too gruelling to finish for me.
I completed the 200 lightning dodges once for Lulu's weapon Once. Never ever again. The other frustrating side-quest in FFX was the chocobo racing for Tidus' weapon. The birds are nearly uncontrollable, the balloons have to be lined up JUST right, and the trainer you're racing needs to have a bad run on top of it all.
Yes to both of these, though I actually hated that other paths race with the chests in the adjacent area more, specifically getting all the chests in a single run (I think it was 5 chests?). The stupid chocobos liked to run into the walls slowing you down, and the frustration of having to wait for the chest opening and jumping animation to finish, and also getting it done only for the opponent to just get ahead with his noticeably slower bird, but they took up the whole path meaning you were stuck following behind them as they inevitably won.
It actually took me comparatively few tries to do those plains races with the balloons. I think I managed to do the hardest one in just a handful of runs (luck more than skill, I'm sure).
Haha, both of these are discussed in their awfulness in a couple Final Fantasy Union videos.
what about the butterfly chase? hated that, never finished. did the lighting twice
I have completed 200 lightning dodge but never could complete the chocobo racing and butterfly chase.
The lightning part is easy as long as you use the crater that always triggers them. annoying but easy. the chocobo is more annoying that is if you don't get the right balloon spawns. there's a couple possible spawns but one of them gives you a lot of balloos in a ow and it also let's you cut the corner at the start in a way that pretty much makes the other guy stay behind you the whole time. Just dodge the birds and gg. last time i played the game i got them back to back on the last challenge and the first where you can get the item and got both at 0 seconds easy
Getting all of the animals in RDR2 was indeed tough, but honestly, it was worth it to see Abigail come up with increasingly convoluted ways of getting it off of the mantel.
Honestly when i saw this I thought she was going to make you her next work of art. And the final scene would be you in a display museum at her ranch titled the animal hunter.
Honestly when i saw this I thought she was going to make you her next work of art. And the final scene would be you in a display museum at her ranch titled the animal hunter.
John's "It's... art." is still SO FUNNY.
I'd like to believe it's no mistake the squirrel statue keeps going missing.
@@Stratelier It absolutley isn't. Abigail does not want that thing in, or anywhere near, the house.
@@alexandersmit4256 No kidding, but I don't know if it's more unsettling to think that she went miles away to the top of a mountain just to get it away from her (instead of throwing it in a fire) or if it's somehow alive and infused with John's adventurous spirit.
@@Evertide05
She never left the farm. She hid it all over the farm and then it disappeared when it snatched by an eagle, when she left it outside
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As a few people have already pointed out, you get more than just a bronze trophy for dodging the lightning. You get an item required for Lulu's ultimate weapon. It also allows Shiva to break damage limit, as Aeons are tied to specific characters for that. And honestly, Final Fantasy X could easily have had multiple entries on this list if ultimate weapons are not worth it. God damn butterfly minigame. And chocobo racing. And some would say the same about blitzball, but I enjoyed that one personally.
Blitzball was fine but a massive time sink
The butterfly minigame turned out to be pretty easy for me, because the Japan-only FF10 Ultimania book actually had a map with a very clear path to follow and lots of people have posted or re-created it online.
Don't forget the capture every monster in every zone for Auron's ultimate weapon and not accidently killing the rare enemies.
I was able to complete the lightening dodging mini game, but the chocobo racing mini game broke me.
The lightning dodging was fine for me, since there are a couple spots where it always strike thrice in a row. The Chocobo racing was downright impossible though. I had to have a friend come over and win those for me.
The taxidermied squirrel could be an allegory for as you said it "the doomed cowboy" you can run, scamper and scurry, but in the end, you're always going to be brought back home
Dang. That's pretty good. 👍🏻
@@OuchingTigerLimpingDragon thanks man, I appreciate that
I absolutely love the idea of the wife hating the squirrel so much she hikes up a mountain.
It's hilarious, can't see what the objection is.
As someone who has 100% red dead redemption 2. I can say from my experience the worst side quest was find all the dinosaur bones - just for the old gal to show you the monstrosity she's put together in a shed.
I never managed to finish the orchids and feathers. As soon as I realised I had to find more different kinds than the first couple (which took me hours) I just couldn't.
Those collectibles are the reason why I didn't 100%.
Kudos to you though!
@@TheWindii collecting the orchids for me was about 6 hours of just being mauled by alligators
Yep, hunting the right birds, finding orchids and the freaking Dominos challenges were probably the worst for me.
Would it have been better if you had to collect the bones but the dinosaurs were alive? 🤔
@@Nuberax RDR3? another prequel... Lmao
Back in high school I totally did do the 200 lightning bolt challenge in FF-X because the reward was necessary for unlocking Lulu’s ultimate weapon 😅
That's why I'm confused as to why they said it was only a trophy. Did the remaster change lulu's ultima weapon quest?
I was about to say, there is a reward for this mini game. Too bad most of FFX isn't that fun
It isn't even the hardest one. I'd rather dodge 200 lightning bolts in a row on a daily basis than having to get 0 seconds on Catcher Chocobo or the Butterfly Catching minigame again.
Saaaaaame!
@@MEver316 Or have to play Blitzball! Good mini game in concept, bad in execution
I learned how to play Hollow Knight so much better after doing the delicate flower quest. Can pretty much do it every time without fail nowadays so it was a good learning experience.
With good pathing and clearing out major enemies beforehand getting TO the final room is very simple, but I tend to screw up the final dashes and hit the spikes half the time. Considering she called the flower "one of a kind' I thought you only get one chance per playthrough.
My very first time playing I felt so proud I made it to the final room, and then I goofed it right at the end. Thankfully, she has an infinite amount of these "one of a kind" flowers, but that was such a buzzkill after being so careful.
I thought it would have been the path of pain
Never had a problem with the path of pain, it is just pure platforming with a simple route and there are plenty of platformers at that difficulty.@@CGE1224
Should have been all Pantheons in Godhome. @@CGE1224
Completed the FFX lightning bolt challenge a couple of times. Trick is to find a spot where the lightning rhythm is predictable (guides can be found online) and pause the game after every 20 lightning dodges or so to rest your hands.
Also, correction: this task is required to unlock Lulu's ultimate weapon.
Yes, it is made much easier by spots where the lightning actually strikes in a predictable pattern.
In the HD version on PlayStation consoles, you also get a bronze trophy.
@@carlsiouxfallsright but this video makes it sound like that is the only reward which isn't true
Yeah, a better option would have been all the celestial weapons, tbh. As the lightning bolts, chocobo race, butterflys, and blitzball league are all the biggest complaints about the game. And the only reason most people engage with them for as long as they do is because of the celestial weapons. So better to just group them all together.
The worst part about dodging the lightning bolts is that you need to do it for one of two upgrade items to fully unlock lulu’s ultimate weapon. Even if you make your own identical weapon, it won’t be as good as the games fully unlocked ultimate weapon.
Eat mushrooms, smoke a little and dodge some bolts
Yeah to get the fully powered Onion Knight u had to get the Venus Crest and the Venus Sigil which requires 200 lightning dodges in order to obtain it
I wish they would just allow your to buy the weapons oer the PlayStation store. The game is so old who cares about dodging the lightning plus I know so many people that will never get her weapon because of that stupid challenge.
I did it on PS2 and 4 about 5 times, it is not so difficult.
I remember doing it specifically for Lulu’s ultimate weapon. And I did it twice. Once on ps2 and then again on the PC version
The robotics club in lost judgement is actually not that bad. It LOOKS tedious and annoying, but it's honestly one of the easier parts of the school story in that game. Instead of positioning blocks like splatoon, if you just make a path directly for the enemy's base, you instantly win every match
I was honestly more frustrated by the biker club & photography club missions ( seriously I hate the biker races & I just can't get the timing right on the 2nd of the 3 photography missions )than the robotics club...I'd still rather put myself through all the school story stuff than put up with the Keihin gang bullshit from Judgement though, they just suck the fun out of the game with their annoying constant attacks
Yeah i was gonna say trying to learn Mahjongg in Judgment is far worse than the robotics club
yeah i just finished the battle mostily just like in 1-2 mins, ignore anything else and just focusing on made a path
Shadow of the Colossus would be perfect for this list. You could hunt down 79 obscurely placed, barely visible coins throughout the game, spread through a sprawling but mostly empty map, that when finally collected unlocked some secret weapon, but by that point there was hardly any use for it.
I wouldn't call this a Side Quest. Like, it's not even acknowledged by the trophy list or challenges.
Anyway, I did this. I love my Dormin Sword and will surely do it again when I feel like 100%ing SotC once more in a few decades from now lol
Not just that, you have to have beaten the game at least once or twice so u can climb the tower for one of them. It's a damn nightmare hearing them lol
I had no clue what this was... had to google that it was added to the PS4 version. As I've only ever played the PS2 original release I was confused, lol
@@natashaw.7315 True. I believe I had beaten the game 5 times by the time I got all the timed challenges and had enough stamina to climb up the shrine.
Now, that's not bad on its own compared to that plus a 15-minute walk on foot across the bridge to the entrance of the Forbidden Lands for a coin, and if you don't know what you're doing, at least two more climbs to jump halfway through the bridge to land in very specific locations for two more coins.
They're a pain, but getting them all is priceless.
@@jmacostaSo side quests werent a thing before trophies and achievements?
Spider-Man is pretty well known for losing backpacks, as they can get stolen or left miles away while he's busy with hero duties. As someone who frequently ruins his backpacks (including the Spider-Man backpack I used in third grade), I can easily relate.
Yeah, and they explain that he even got an award for a science thing from Fisk that gave him free backpacks for life
I honestly thought the Path of Pain would be on the list. THAT is harder than the flower quest if you ask me.
And the reward is about 10 seconds of a cutscenes. And if you complain about it people start screaming "BUT LORE..." at you
Path of pain is much harder…
Of course, if you, like their video editors did, take the flower TO the Path of Pain, I guess that is harder… Why on earth you’d do that is anyone’s guess, but yeah…
Path of pain at least has a cool name. You can tell anyone you completed the path of pain and even if they don't play hollow knight , your bound to get some gamer cred. Tell em you did the flower quest and they will just shrug ackwardly.
Agreed. POP is always going to be troublesome, but the flower quest can be made much simpler. Pick the simplest route, kill all the enemies, and DON'T SIT AT A BENCH!!! While very minor enemies will respawn, tougher enemies will NOT respawn until you sit at a bench and save. The route I take thus has very little resistance, and the only real hazard is the spikes leading into and in the final room.
As long as you have the Dream Nail teleport you can keep respawning at the Grey Mourner's hut if you fail so you don't have to walk all the way back.
The boss rushes were the hardest for me. Or that weirdo in the tent.
The key to the delicate flower quest is that not all fast travel is banned. While you can’t ride on the bug taxi, you CAN ride the train. It’s still hard but significantly less so.
The other one is killing the enemies on the path as they (or most) will stay dead as long as you don’t die or rest
And pick a decent route that doesn’t have saw blades on it…why would you show going through the White Palace during this quest?
@@NDRogueElf I was thinking the same exact thing-- you should barely even have to go through the Ancient Basin, much less the White Palace, to get back to the Queens Garden.
Unless you for some reason wanna bring the flower on a world tour or something (which sounds like straight up torture)
Exactly what I thought.@@NDRogueElf
There's also no saw blades between the Grey Mourner and the grave.
I love how OX emphasizes sawblades in the delicate flower quest like people think they need to complete the Path of Pain with the flower in their inventory.
Yeah or fight a boss, you can more or less walk it there if you preclear the route, it's only the final jump with the thorns that is in anyway tricky.
This seems like a perfect opportunity to remind you that _Super Mario RPG_ was not the last time you had to jump 100 times consecutively as Mario. The other occasion was in _Super Mario Odyssey_ with that accursed jump rope in New Donk City. I had to glitch out my game so Mario floated and leave the controller alone just to 100% the game, and that's the only thing preventing me from playing the game ever again.
You could play it without 100%ing it
...it's not even that hard
Oh I did that lightning challenge- tongue hanging out my mouth, nerves shredded- i think that may be the moment life went wrong!
The crater being used at 7:14 makes the lightning dodging pretty doable. It's really easy compared to dodging random strikes. Getting a 0 second time on the chocobo race is much more RNG reliant and could take way longer than 200 dodges using the crater trick.
Oh yeah, the Chocobo races are no joke. They seem easy at first, but wait until you see the last few. yeesh.
@@marhawkman303as much as I hate catcher chocobo, I don’t think I will ever do the 200 lightning bolts ever again. Tidus is much better than lulu in the post game and even though catcher chocobo can take some time, dodging lightning is going to eat at least 30 minutes per attempt if you screw up as you get closer to 200. Personally, I just prefer to use the dark matters you get from the monster arena to make her a weapon.
I used the crater, turned off REs and I still couldn't do it. I just get too anxious Everytime
@@TSfish94 A custom weapon will never be as good as the celestial weapons because of their hidden passive defense ignoring property. I find Lulu to be a bit underrated. Even though her limit break is horrible her celestial weapon is very good. Her damage scales off of MP instead of HP so she does full damage after being revived at half HP from a phoenix down. Save your dark matters for a ribbon armor!
@@kayleighcarr4956 I feel you because I have choked at 180+ before. That was a solid 15 minutes down the drain. I don't mind it though because it is fully within your control. If you keep trying the nerves will take over less and less and you'll get it eventually.
I love how polite John Marston is when he finds someone crazy 😂 one of the things about the character that made me fall for him was the fact that, despite he knowing the violent skills of a criminal, he shows that he really tries to live a more righteous life.
I like RDR and GTA IV to the point that I did those side quests, more than once 😂
I did the Super Mario RPG one. What you fail to mention is that, at least in the remake, the window of success gets progressively smaller as you get closer to the goal. Once you're past 80, you have to basically be pixel perfect to keep the chain going.
Also, the Attack Scarf and Super Suit aren't even really needed unless you're trying to beat Culex 3D specifically. Everything else can be done pretty easily without that gear.
The first 14 or so have a fair window but after 30 or so the window shrinks to like only a frame or two
Not sure how hard it necessarily was overall, but trying to complete all of the Mushroom XIII challenges in KH2 tested me a fair bit, especially the one you have to juggle outside Yen Sid's tower
Yes, those were impossible.
its not that they were impossible, it just required you to completely change the way you played the game up till that point. good idea in theory, rough in practice @@brandonp7503
I'd put that in as harder than Lightning Dodging tbh. Mushroom 8 can go jump in a lake as far as I'm concerned. It was more relief when I finally beat him then any semblance of joy.
The only mushroom I loathed was the juggling one and that’s because I didn’t know there was tech to make it easy. Tried multiple time to actually combo until I learned you can get it into a corner and just have it bounce up and down
I do remember going for those pigeons (I did the 100% in 2 weeks, for the 'key to the city' contest Rockstar ran). I was following a guide, thought I'd got all 200, only to find I had 199. Had to go all over the city again trying to find the one I'd missed. Argh.
Same thing happened to me, I was using maps on my crappy old 3gp phone to do it too!.
This reminds me of those stupid flags in the first Assassins Creed game all over the kingdom. I somehow missed one and had to search all over again. And this was back when the guides were actually not that accurate.
This is always the worst part of collectibles for me. That point where you are just missing a handful but have no clue which ones you are missing and therefore have to sift through a list one by one to figure out which ones you overlooked. That kind of experience was the point that I just swore off collectibles in games unless there was some interesting gameplay attached to them.
That's awful
The chocobo race was so much more infuriating than the lightning dodges. The dodges were easy if you find the glitch spot lol
Also it’s not just for a trophy guys! It’s for Lulu’s Celestial Weapon!
I actually did the Judgment Robotics Club one 😅
It wasn’t exactly fun, but I don’t recall it being nearly as gruelling as Mike described it!
Seriously, use the parts or ai that makes your ally bots hunt the enemy team then just grab the parts and build strait towards the enemy base while the enemy team is dead the whole game. Honestly, it was easy.
I did the flying rats in GTA IV years ago. Took a long time but wasn’t too bad overall. Had to do it for the Key to the City achievement.
Ironic that half the footage for the Hallow Knight entry is the Path of Pain, which is WAY WORSE than the Delicate Flower quest!
Some lunatic took the regular path and made it WAY worse than Path of Pain by making it a "Floor is Lava" challenge. Got through White Palace without touching the ground except where the game forces it after screen transitions.
Hollow Knight - White Palace - The Floor is Lava Challenge [Hitless] - 5:47.69
Delicate Flower isn't _that_ hard.
Clear out all the enemies along your path first. As long as you don't stop at a bench they won't respawn. I've done that quest plenty of times... And you get a Mask Shard for doing it, which is a great reward.
The Path of Pain is a much harder challenge in Hollow Knight. I've done it, but only once. Steel Soul Mode (which deletes your save file if you _ever_ die) I'd say is a harder challenge than the Delicate Flower, but easier than The Path of Pain.
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I didn't legitimately get the 100 jumps in Mario RPG. I used save states to do it. Part of the difficulty is that the timing actually changes at some point while you're doing it... (I forget which jump number exactly it changes on.)
both pale in comparison too absolute radiance seriously screw this glowing moth piece of garbage
I’ve done the FF10 challenge - lighting bolts was fine. But that Chocobo race with 0.0 time, can’t do… I hate it with such disdain!
Hollow knight, love and did both to get my trophies.
no chance the path of pain was harder than steel soul. frankly, I didn't find the path of pain as hard as some people are making it. more tedious than anything.
@@jamesherb4384 If you've played through the game a few times and are moderately careful (and skip over some of the harder optional content like the Grimm Troupe), Steel Soul should only really take a few tries and it's a fun run along the way.
Hiveblood does guarantee completion of The Path of Pain eventually if you're patient, but I'm pretty sure I waited for that mask to refill over a hundred times to beat it, and it was all just precision & practice while repeating the same things over and over again, which isn't great for enjoyment value.
Between the two I find it a lot easier to play through Steel Soul.
The delicate flower quest in hollow knight isn’t particularly hard if you clear out the enemies beforehand
The hardest part was the bit of platforming at the end where you had to dodge the thorns. That definitely got my palms sweating but overall, I say it took me less than 20 minutes
Thank you. I said the same thing in my comment. That one wasn't bad at all.
Should have been Path of Pain of Godhome, THOSE are challenging sidequests. Oh or even Grimm Troupe if you chose the ending where you fight Nightmare Grimm.
@user-ej4jq5bw4c they even have path of pain footage implying it's part of the quest!
0:13 Actually, there's an in-game lore explanation for the backpacks: he got a lifetime supply of backpacks as part of the Fisk science award he earned as a kid. I did actually collect all of them (and all the spider bots in the new one).
0:33 ...and here's what happens when I pause and comment before watching the rest of the video...
6:54, "Dodging *beep* lightning" for some reason that really tickled my funny bone XD But yeah, having actually done said quest 2 or 3 times before I agree, it's a royal pain in the butt. One tip, get flipping "no encounters" ability before you try (it IS possible to get this on/by your 1st visit), also ready your thumb for the flash of lightning that comes before, it's during this timing that you can guarantee dodging it.
I’ve done Red Dead II’s hunting requests trice and it’s not as tedious as Genshin’s world quests from Sumeru. To this day, I never finished the Aranara quests and stopped once I unlocked the Tree of Dreams.
I mean, for the 200 lightning dodges, you get a Venus Sigil that unlocks the half the full power of Lulu's ultimate weapon. It's really hard to tough through it to unlock her full power.
Right. I thought it was weird that she said it was just for a trophy...
For rdr2 there are many, many contenders. The taxidermy quest is certainly up there, but I'd also put the exotics quest where you have to find flowers (among other things) all over the entire map, and my personal most hated thing in rdr2...the gambler challenges, most notably #8 where you have to win 3 hands of black jack while hitting 3 times each. Spending hours even getting a hand where you don't bust hitting 3 times and then STILL losing or pushing and having it not count is one of the most rage inducing things I've ever endured lol.
These are the exact two challenges which prevented me from 100%ing the game, I just couldn't take it anymore 😆
@@chloe.imogen I don't blame you. I've actually 100% twice. The second time was to see how many things I could do as Arthur (including getting the stuff from New Austin using the wagon trick). The gambler challenge was 10000x more frustrating than the invisible sniper lol.
I KNEW THE SUPERJUMP WOULD BE THERE! I always thought the secret chests were a pain in LOTSS.
I know yall were joking about improving our lives immeasurably, however you guys really have. Thank you for existing.
For the lightning dodging, there's a spot where you can reliably time the lightning strikes, so once you get in a rhythm it's not so bad. But the chocobo race where you have to get less than 0s time was infuriating. So rng!
As a child I did them all in FFX but I tried as a grown man n nearly lost my cool😂
@@ragugod8267yep, did the same. I grind way too much and the final boss was a breeze 😂
Things in Hollow Knight that are harder than the flower quest:
1) Path of Pain
2) Pantheons
I actually did the Mario RPG one as a kid. I remember finding a spot I liked against an enemy that was slightly easier to time. And then trying for hours and hours. I did eventually get it and was so excited. The Super Suit it gives you makes you ridiculously powerful from that point forward, so it’s worth it if you can do it. That save where I had it is probably long gone along with the battery in that SNES cart, and no I don’t think I’ll ever do it again.
“It’s… art”
That it is John… that it is.
When Jane is describing the lightning dodging and having to get 200 consecutive dodges the gameplay video shows a spot where you can farm the dodges, where the player is looping around the second you step into that ditch lightning always strikes so you can pre-plan your dodge and constantly run in a small circle there. But as @khaela632 points out lower down, it was the butterfly hunt that got me.
Also its key to unlocking Lulu's Onion Knight... her ultimate weapon.
Fairly sure you need to do the 200 lightning strike dodges in FFX to get one of the pieces to unlock Lulu's ultimate weapon potential?
The robotics club sidequest wasn't SO bad compared to other stuff the team have put in their games. I found it to be less difficult than the toy car racing in Yakuza 0 and Kiwami, just really grindy.
Yeah it just takes time. Not to mention that the DLC robot for LJ makes it easier
The GTA V Kifflom side missions could be on here too. Super Tedious and time consuming.
At least you can blow off steam in the end. ;)
Walk 5 miles in the desert... with boring Michael, yaaay...
When I played through Bloodlines as Toreador and Brujah I maxed Celerity, which I came to realise was effectively the easy mode of the game. Those where the only runs I manage to defeat all the zombies 😅
(And then, coincidentally, I got the two worst endings for those two characters 😅)
Malkavian is an excellent second play-through, when you can actually recognise all the apparently crazy things you can say as being relevant to things that happen.
@@KindredBrujah Agreed, I did the same thing after recommendations from friends, and I’m happy I did.
The flower quest in Hollow Knight isn't too bad, just a fun challenge. A few tries, the right charms, and avoiding the hardest routes and it's not bad at all!
I’ll have you know I DID in fact find a place for the squirrel statue in red dead 2 and it was the most extensive task I’ve ever completed in my entire 25 years of life. Glad I did it though as I felt accomplished after doing the side quest.
My mother did the 200 bolts. I went to ask a question and she had to start over.. she was at 180 . so i guess she did 380... I still have not lived it down
The delicate flower quest is actually pretty necessary to get the last mask fragment plus it's way easier if you clear the monsters out before picking up the flowers... now giving the delicate flowers to other characters for achievements is a whole other story tbh
Elderbug deserves a flower, it makes him so happy 🥰
Haven't done this sidequest yet, but I'm curious now- can you give the flowers to other bugs and then just go back to get new flowers, or can you only pick one single recipient for the flower per game, gotta start all over once you've made your delivery?
@@goranisacson2502 You can do that before and after the quest because once you complete the quest you can pick up new flowers from the grave - makes some routes easier, others harder
My family has many backpacks. One for supplies to keep in the car, two for travel, another for use in parks, to take to work, and a gaming backpack....there may be more. But in a moment's notice, any items meant for any of the packs is ready to go. Which is good in case of emergency.
That cowboy squirrel is objectively incredible though. Worth it.
I have completed that Hollow Knight "Delicate Flower" quest and boy is it one that you basically have to set aside an afternoon for. Since Hollow Knight is rather Souls-like, many enemies don't respawn until you rest, though smaller ones will respawn if you simply leave their area. So for this quest, you can clear the way of tougher enemies before picking up the flower. This, of course, takes some time. All well and good until one slightly missed jump or one minor enemy gets a lucky shot on you near the end sees you take a bit of damage and all of that is for naught and you have to do it again.
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All that just to get a mask shard. 😓
Dodging the lightning wasn't even the worst of it! It got you a piece to get Lulu's ultimate weapon, and there was a crater you didn't even need to move to get struck if you got the timing you were gold...ish I mean it still took ages BUT to get Titas' ultimate you had to win a dang near impossible chocobo race so hard it's just stupid
Chocobo race is RNG. You just keep playing until it happens to load a bunch of balloons in the right path directly in front of you. You can’t win unless the balloons are just right, and that’s just RNG. Just commit for a few hours.
@@Trevin_Taylor just blew my mind and got me mighty upset at that hahahaha boooo lol I had no idea, my hyper competent friend got his own even better friend to do it for him and apparently he just barely made it, but then we lost him so for almost two decades I've believed it was a lost cause.. lordy
Still my favourite game..
Oh my gosh, when I saw Super Mario RPG I thought for sure I would have it done. As someone who managed to do the 200 lightning strikes in FFX (not once, but twice because my partner wanted it too and couldn't get it), I completely forgot that I was unable to get the 100 jumps.
I'm 100% convinced that the timing changed as you got higher numbers because I swear I can easily get to 30+, but it would usually fall off around 50-70. Never even got close to 100
Your gut feeling is right. The timing does change at certain points to become more difficult.
The other thing is that some enemies have a cap on how many times you can jump on them, especially bosses.
You need the jump ring and jump shoes. Jump ring makes jumping easier and shoes counter the hat/cap/spike mechanism. The shoes may be called something else, but I know it’s jump ring.
@@patbracken oh my gosh, this is actually such a comfort, knowing I wasn't crazy!
@@iiayoob why not both? :D
Ya did us dirty with the Titus double laugh lmao
Dodging the lightning in Final Fantasy 10 is also a key component to fighting the Dark Aeons.
I did the 200 lighting bolt dodges back when the game was released on PS2. Had to get that sigil for Lulu's best weapon. Also did the delicate flower quest in Hollow Knight, which was a major pain to do but I think the Path of Pain is far worse. I still haven't completed that yet!
God, yes... the V:TM-B zombies quest... even with Celerity, I never finished it.
I dodged the 200 lightning way back in the PS2 day. I remember equipping a zero encounters item and going to a place they would reliably fall down at and just went for it. You learn to time it so it was not that bad honestly. Way easier than the butterfly thing you need to do for Khimahri's weapon, or capturing 10 of each monster. No idea why either of those didn't get mentioned instead
Had a friend who beat the lightning bolt challenge for me. That's how you know you have a good friend. He has even got 175 consecutive dodges once before a bolt hit him.
The FFX quest was part of the quest for Lulu’s ultimate weapon and was kind of annoying but really not that bad if you have No Encounters. I actually found the Chocobo race across the plains (I think for Titus’s ultimate weapon) to be way more annoying.
That was so annoying I just lost all interest in the game
Husband said that the backpack argument between Andy and Luke is pretty much us 😂 you can never have too many backpacks/totebags!
Finding and taking pictures of all the hidden Mickeys in KH3. I had to do it to see the full ending on Easy mode
I can't remember if it's an actual side quest, but has anyone bothered finding all 900 Korok seeds in BOTW?
good point, why wasn't it mentioned?
They've covered it in a previous video i think... pretty sure all you get for it is a lump of korok poop or something like that...
love how the Gray Mourner goes "lmao" before exploding
I did the Red Dead Redemption 2 quest mentioned here - in fact it is the only Rockstar game I have ever gotten 100% in, I loved it. Also got the lightning dodger for FFX, but Kimahri's butterfly challenge was so much harder for me being colourblind. I could not see the butterflies, so I had to study maps and TH-cam runs and mimic what they did with precision timing - it was brutal, but hey I got the platinum, eh?~
I JUST did the 200 lightning dodges in FF-X HD a few days ago, the anxiety is the hardest part and the closer you get to 200 the worse it gets. I usually enjoy playing FFX ever couple years or so but, I ALWAYS dread dodging that lightning for Lulu's damn weapon.
I always just make ultimate weapons for the characters who's ultimate weapons suck to get. I think I only ever got Yuna, Auron, and Rikku's legitimate ultimate weapons.
I have weirdly fond memories of dodging lightning. I would just kind of zone out to everything else and find a zen state dodging. I seem to recall there being some reward more than a trophy, but maybe that's in the remake. I think you needed to do it to power up one of the character's weapons or something.
I have a friend who always 100% Final Fantasy games. He is the sort of guy who did a run of FF8 where he spent roughly 5 hours grinding levels and magic in the opening combat area before going to finish the tutorial by getting Ifrit. As in, late game mobs (the T-Rex) were spawning and he had level 3 magic before progressing.
Actually levelling up in FF8? Mad lad.
Honestly, I love the taxidermy squirrel portrait. I am highly tempted to make myself as a bunny using some foam and faux fur
See the trick with the Delicate Flower Quest is to plan the route in advance. Go from your goal back to the quest giver, defeating all enemies on the way. If you never sit in a bench the entire way, enemies don’t respawn, so then all you have to worry about is environmental hazards. Still, a lot easier than also worrying about enemies.
The Force Tears from Jedi Survivor were really hard but I loved playing them
I had a really easy time doing the robotics club. It gets better the further it goes.
I have completed the Delicate Flower quest and honestly it's way easier if you still have Kingsoul by the time you do it, which is what I did. Though in all honesty Kingsoul is kind of a cheat code, which is why they rip it out of your hands to get every ending except one.
Do you mean because you can attack enemies from a distance for safety?
It's really not necessary if you clear the path ahead of time and don't sit on any benches. Very minor enemies like the Goomba clones always respawn when you enter a room, but tougher enemies never respawn until you sit at a bench again.
With the path I take this leads to very few enemy encounters, leaving only environmental hazards. Really, only the final room with it's spikes poses any threat.
I remember lightning minigame being less frustrating than playing Blitzball for Wakka's Celestial. Maybe because I was, like, 13-14 when I was doing it, so my reflexes weren't as bad as today or maybe because it was for Lulu.
The lightning one wasn't as bad as the blitzball one. I hated getting Wakka's ultimate weapon.
I also got the delicate flower. THAT was a pain in the ass.
Geez! I did the Mario RPG one as well. Awesome!
You're right. I have never completed the lightning dodge minigame for two reasons. 1) Who needs Lulu when I have Yuna and her weapon is SOOOOO much easier to unlock than Lulu's? 2) F*CK THAT MINIGAME!
Didn't the original on the ps2 allow you to save with x amount of dodges and then reload the save if you were to fail or was I lied to about that
@@RecoveryPlayz Have to do all 200 in one go. The number resets if you leave the area/go to the nearest save sphere. This happens on all versions btw.
@@Latias38 Ah, I see thanks. I had to do all 200 in one go cuz I wanted to gather everyone's Ultimate Weapons, though I was on the remaster, and I was told you could save your progress on the original and reload if you fucked up but I could never validate this, I don't have FFX on PS2 anymore
@@RecoveryPlayz this method is only doable if you play the game on emulator and take advantage of save states.
@@korsaiyajinkami3766 Ah interesting. I knew save states would work, because of how save states are handled. Thanks for the lesson!
The true final melenium tower in Yakuza: Like a Dragon
Similar to the Hollow Knight quest, Nier Replicant had package delivery quests in act 1. The package was delicate and was stupidly easy to break and made a wonderful shattering noise when it was damaged.
I did the lightning in FFX. It was the Blitzball I couldn't be bothered with. The chocobo minigame is harder than the lightning too imo.
I killed my box fan doing the chocobo race. I to found dodging lightning easier.
was wondering what the ffx entry was going as there are a few tedious things side quests that lead to getting the ultimate weapons for each character, managed to complete the lightning dodge one with not to much trouble once i learnt of the good spot to complete it.
For me the worst was the Chocobo race under the temple
Exactly. I didn’t think it was that hard to dodge the lightning years ago when I played it. It wasn’t only until recently that I’ve been reading about how hard some people found it.
I did the lighting dogging. I got all the weapons . That dogging took me a week to get
Agreed. Near the north end of the thunder plains was a spot with 3 bolts that had the same timing every time you approached the spot the first bolt hit. Basically it became 67 dodges once you got the button press timing down right
I remember completing the lightning one!! I thought the chocobo time trial with Tidus was harder, where you had to pop all the balloons! I was 15 years old 20 years ago when I completed it 😅 could never put myself through that again 🤣🤣
The VtM:B quest is MEANT to be extremely difficult and the weapon you get for it is pretty strong IF you have enough of points in firearms to make the scope useable (Romero does boost your firearms stat permanently by 1 point upon completion, too), but, thanks to the buggy nature of the game, it can be completed by doing next to nothing until the timer runs out. As soon as Romero exits, run out the building and make your way to the mausoleum at the far end of the cemetery. If you set up camp at either side of the mausoleum building, the zombies will stop attacking the gates and SLOWLY make their way towards you. All you need to do is shoot them when they get close enough until the counter runs out, by which point Romero returns and the quest is complete. It wasn't fun and the alternative methods (sleeping with him if you are playing as a woman with more than 7 points in Seduction or fetching him a prostitute if you're not) are less tedious, but the reward isn't as good. Killing the zombies nets you 3 EXP and +1 to firearms, whereas the alternative gives you 2 EXP and you get to choose between +1 to firearms or 100$ or thereabouts. The money sounds good in theory, but EXP is far more important, not to mention that +1 to firearms is preferable to money anyway, at least in my opinion.
Honestly, 1 EXP doesn't really make that much difference by that point.
And if you absolutely have to run between the gates to kill zombies, an axe or a sword (or Protean claws) is a far better weapon than bare fists - zombies are resistant to bashing weapons.
"extremely"... I never even considered it difficult :o
For some reason, FFX lightning challenge was the first and easiest one I finished. Kimahri’s butterfly thing was the one that gave me more trouble 😂
Or the chocobo balloon race
@@Whyteroze28 I find the Chocobo race is dependent on which set of balloons you get. Based on where the first few balloons spawn I generally know if I have a shot or not.
Also, if playing on PC, try lowering the graphics for that part. It made a world of difference for me at the time
@Vincent.E.M.Thorn.Author I'll have to look into that, thanks.
I managed it on PS2 no sweat, but cuz of how it is on PS3... And I could not agree more on those fecking balloons! The butterflies wasn't so bad, though!
Of all of the FFX ultimate weapon quests, lightning dodging isn't even in the top three most tedious.
I did the delicate flower in Hollow Knight. Sure, it took a few tries but if you plan a smart route instead of trying to brute-force the closest, I don't think it's THAT bad! Hell, I spent more time collecting feathers in Assassins Creed and collecting Bazory Gems (or whatever they're called) in Skyrim!
nope, when i think of ffx my body automagically starts reciting yu yevon's prayer
I did the ff10 lightening quest... I was so broke at the time I bought this game with all my extra money and played it for 3 months straight cause I couldn't afford to do anything else
I not only completed the delicate flower quest, but I also completed the hunter’s journal, beat the trial of the fool and made it through the path of pain. Yes, I am quite proud of myself.
Did the 200 lightning strikes in FFX after quite a few attempts but eventually got it. However, back when it came out on PS2, the reward wasn't a bronze trophy, it was an Ultimate weapon/equilment for a character, Kumari I think.
It's an item needed to unlock Lulu's. Still is there in the remaster.
People need to give tidus a break the laugh is bad on purpose, that’s the point. It’s a very heartfelt moment
I've done 3 out of the 7 (Hollow Knight, FFX, RDR2).
I actually liked hunting in RDR so I don't remember that one being bad, but it did take a while.
The Hollow Knight one isn't hard at all if you just plan a good route and kill everything along the way before hand (some stuff will respawn, but only the weakest enemies).
Dodging lightning in FFX on the other hand...that one was a long time ago, but I still remember it being very tedious.
I'm surprised the Hollow Knight one wasn't Path of Pain or Godhome or even Grimm Troupe, now THOSE are challenging sidequests.
The Bloodlines sidequest isn't actually too bad if you use the fire axe, shinto blade, or the knife. the forward slash strikes downwards and if you hit the head it one-shots them exploding them instantly, making keeping both gates clear relatively easy. I actually look forward to that quest!
FFX lightning dodge has been on outsidexbox lists of whatever like 2356 times
To make justice:
- You CAN see how many lightning bolts you have in a row at the cactuar statue in front of the Thunder Plains inn.
- The reward isn't a bronze trophy, it's one of lulu's ultimate weapon pieces.
I did the lightning dodging in FFX back on PS2 and had the most issues with the butterfly catching. Managed to do all the things and get all the celestial weapons in FFX finally during lockdown when I had a little more time...
I only ever beat the zombie defense mission in Vtm:B once, and I did indeed spend every last blood point on Celerity. Helped that I was using the fireaxe and sometimes a lucky swing would connect with their head first for a one-hit kill.
Another side-quest not worth doing is getting the true ending(?) of Payday 2. IIRC, you have to, with no direction, find certain items in certain heists, use them to riddle out a puzzle in your hideout, write down the translation it gives you, then go through some extra steps in the White House heist to open a secret door that has you slowly putting in that translation (better not get a single letter wrong!) WHILE fending off ghost cloakers or something. This is expected to take about an hour, and since the ghost cloakers don't drop ammo, you'd better bring nothing but ammo bags.
Not helping is that I think you need three friends who've also done all the steps to pull it off, but I'll stick to watching that ending on TH-cam, thanks.
Did the FFX lightning dodging on PC. Even with double speed enabled to make the job go by faster, and knowing the trick of the crater it was a little nerve wracking, especially as one gets close to the goal. Having to keep a count in your head made it worse.