Oh, the fish tattoo Nishiki has was absolutely deliberate on the devs' part. In Japanese mythology, a koi slowly climbing a waterfall eventually reached the top and turned into a dragon.
Yeah, and this connection becomes even more apparent because Kiryu's successor in the Yakuza/Like A Dragon franchise is a guy who has a tattoo of a dragonfish and is even voiced by Nishiki's voice actor (in the Japanese dub at least). He even has a similar best friend to final boss story arc in his first outing as the protagonist.
Just about to say that. But to expand on this, it's a metaphor for Nishiki's desire to be like Kiryuu. To be "Like a Dragon". Because while Kiryuu does not have the kanji for Dragon in his name, one of the kanji has the same reading. Also Kiryuu is the Dragon of Dojima.
I'm sad that A Way Out wasn't on this list. That ending fight literally made me cry at the end, especially cause I played that whole game with my IRL best friend and he beat me, so it felt like my real best friend was shooting me. Damn, the feels 😂
Thank God, somebody said this. Like some of these are horrible but aware was just downright heartbreaking 💔 Straight up, almost didn’t finish the game because of the betrayal. And what’s worse about it is you have to choose it doesn’t allow you to go at the same time.
The most tragic part of Jedi survivor wasn’t Cere’s death, it wasn’t Bode’s betrayal, it was the sigh that Kata gives when she understands what must be done.
Yeah. Kata clearly has a lot of emotional scars that need addressing. One can only hope that happens, though this is Star Wars, the galaxy where an entire army of magic warrior monks didn't have the sense to conjure up one therapist to counsel their combat veterans.
I feel like she's always been pretty transparent about her World domination plans. I'm happy to know she's my best friend though, I think I'll just join her conquest.
Infamous 2 was brutal for me. Though not THE final boss, you were forced to kill your best friend on the evil route. Zeke, the one that’s been with you through it all and had your back, finally sees you for the monster you really are and even though you have superpowers and he just has a gun, he tries to stop you anyway. *sobs*
That was heartbreaking. Him acknowledging he can't win but has to try. Then trying to get back up after you shock him so you have to keep hitting up until he stays down.
I'm surprised Insomniac's Spider Man wasn't on this list. Peter looked up to Dr. Octavius and considered him a close friend. You could feel the heartbreak and anguish when Spider Man had to fight Doc Oc.
For me it's the "you knew? You knew!" You could feel the anguish and fury but what made it hurt worse was the juxtaposition of the heartbreaking "you knew?" That followed with May
I’ll never forget the first time playing Dishonored when it felt like the game was ending way too early after beating the Lord Regent. As soon as I was offered a drink I started thinking “oh no oh dang uh oh!” Admiral Havlock and Co betraying you and the rest of the loyalists was a bit of a shock the first time playing, and the High Chaos ending is really terrible seeing all of them tearing at you and each other.
She wasn't the final boss but was one of the last bosses - Jill Valentine in Resident Evil 5, Chris' partner/best friend. Hard to fight her having previously played her in RE1 and RE3 😭
This happens ALL THE TIME in Kingdom Hearts but the one that gets me every time is Xion in Kingdom Hearts 365/2 Days. The clock tower hang out scenes, the sea-salt ice cream, the crystal tears. I end up bawling every time
You don't understand, I've been messed up about Nishiki for YEARS. He is what happens when your Yakuza not-Dad sets you up for failure over and over again by treating you like your fellow orphan sworn brother rather than nurturing your actual talents and recognizing when you need support. Nishki was done dirty by everyone but Kiryu and I think about it to this day. 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Yeah, Nishiki's story in Kiwami is incredibally tragic and fucked up. He was essentially a broken man who realised that the only way he could rise up was through guile and brutality, transforming from a great man into a total bastard. No justification for his actions, he became a true villain, but one we hoped would, and did, achieve redemption
Also everyone kept telling him at every step that he's worthless and Kiryu is the only one worth anything (despite Nishiki showing he has better understanding of strategy)
Dead Island doesn’t count. In the DLC it’s revealed Colonel Ryder was NOT the person on the radio. Ryder never interacted with them until he took the antidote near the end of the game. He also never intended to nuke the island, and, indeed, the island was never nuked.
I remember in Final Fantasy X when you had at the end to summon every single summon that were with you during the entire game and kill them one by one before facing yevon. It even has tiny bits of scenes of yuna suffering before and after summoning them knowing she has to defeat them.
And that’s why I don’t have best friends in case something dramatic happens and suddenly he swears revenge on me and then we have to fight a brutal but tearful fight on top of a tower
I have a lot of feelings about Bode's betrayal, and the story of Jedi Survivor in general. Good feelings, mind you. When Bode first pulled out that saber, and did that Force Push, I was legitimately in shock. After that whole scene, I had to turn off the game and lie down for a while to process the whole betrayal.
Morrowind has two of these. 1) In the base game, Dagoth Ur was one of your closest allies (and possibly more than that, it's not made clear thanks to the game leaving the history murky to let the player draw their own conclusions) during your life as Indoril Nerevar. 2) In the _Tribunal_ expansion, Almalexia was your wife when you were Nerevar. In both cases they've gone mad thanks to the immortality and power they'd gotten from the Heart of Lorkhan, and you have to put them down for the good of all Tamriel.
Assuming, of course, that the Nerevarine Prophecy was true. The player character may alternatively have been just Azura's pawn for revenge instead of being the Nerevarine. Or just some rando who stopped Dagoth Ur for their own reasons. I both love and hate that about Elder Scrolls: that we never quite know what is the "truth". Like with Tiber Septim. Was he Hjalti Early-Beard of High Rock, or Talos of Atmora? Was a noble, just emperor who conquered Tamriel to save it, or was he a power-hungry bastard who stole the throne out of greed? All of the above? We just don't know!
How do you not have "A Way Out" on here, the final boss being your best friend is the entire point of the game! Such a heart breaking final fight, as not only are you fighting your best friend in game but also fighting them in real life through the game! Your killing your friends character!
One thing I cant stress enough that I love about the OX crew that they do different from most is including the spoiler names at the beginning of the video in list order so you can quickly skip before it happens so you dont spoil yourself. Really underrated
In the game Sekiro Shadows Die Twice, one of the characters that Wolf befriends is Isshin Ashina the patriarch of the Ashina clan. Throughout the game, Isshin helps Wolf in rescuing Kuro and later telling him where to find both the mortal blade and the ingredients he needs to enter the fountainhead palace. Isshin will also give Wolf a scroll containing Ashina style sword techniques in exchange for completing a sidequest for him. Isshin also serves as the final boss for all four of the game's endings. In the Shura ending, he fights Wolf to stop him from turning into a monster while in the other three, he fights Wolf in order to see his grandson Genichiro's final wish realized which is to see Ashina restored to it's former glory.
They should of had Snake Eater on the list, even tho they weren't best friends they had a close relationship something like being friends as a mentor and a student
Just in case we ever get a commentors edition I'm just saying that it is a crime that The boss from snake eater isn't here, Snake has to put down his best friend and the only person who will ever understand him, his pretty much mother. Heartbreaking and then that final salute after he realises that it was pretty much all for nothing.
Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time. Alister Azimuth, exiled Lombax turned substitute father figure turned final boss... which leads to Ratchet becoming one of 2 known Lombaxes left in the universe (at that point in the continuity)
In Dishonored’s Knife of Dunwall DLC Daud’s hideout gets attacked by Overseers in the final mission. Turns out your loyal lieutenant who’s supplied and guided you throughout the whole DLC was a turn coat. If you played low chaos she feels remorse and offers the choice to kill or spare her. But if you’ve been an unrepentant murdering jerk, she feels justified in her actions and is a pretty tough boss.
It’s not exactly a boss _fight,_ but in the great little game Thief Simulator you’re working for Vinny the whole game when he “rewards” you with a bomb going off. You spend the last third of the game collecting evidence and implicating him in a way that gets him killed by the Gambino crime family. Pretty poetic as he’d used them to try and kill you.
Murdering your friends is a Shin Megami Tensei tradition. While they're the final bosses in only two mainline games (4 and technically 5 on one route), I think I felt the worst about killing the party on 4a; in most cases, it's character splitting from you over ideals, but in 4a, you're the one explicitly murdering them.
Infamous 2 , admittedly you only get to fight Zeke if you're going Evil, but even so when he just valiantly stands there trying to stop you and looks worse and worse after each lighting bolt. Does really make you feel bad for going evil
He's sort of a miniboss, but I immediately thought of Kain from FF4; he starts out as your Dragoon buddy but gets taken over by Golbez (probably because he's in love with Rosa) and you have to fight him later on
Fontaine's betrayal doesn't really come out of nowhere, as it's hinted at as soon as first level(if you actually pay attention). It's just so subtle you don't even realize it until the end, it's just THAT well written....
The writing is consistent and the writers did a good job of foreshadowing. Once you know, lots of the conversation makes sense in a different fashion all of a sudden. Playing Bioshock a second time hammers in just how much of a bastard Fontaine really is.
0:39 This is the first time I know of where the spoiler list is itself a spoiler. That'd be like "Here's a list of games where you were dead the whole time."
Not fully sure if this would count, but in Mortis Ghost's OFF you have to choose to fight either your puppet (the Batter) or the Judge. In the 'non secret' ending, you'd be pitted against your long time guide who I'd honestly call your best friend throughout the game
Quantum Break should most definitely have been on this list. That’s a heartbreaking final boss fight in my opinion, and I honestly agreed with Paul more than Jack
How about Big Smoke from GTA: San Andreas? He's one of the first of your old friends you meet in the game and is the one behind everything. Or, how about Angel from Borderlands, who you are forced to kill to stop Handsome Jack. She isn't even hostile to you, but the security system protecting her is.
A friend of mine and I both went to the same college and at one point it had a Double Dragon cab in the student union. We threw so many quarters at it and finally got to the end only to find out you had to fight each other for the girl (look, it was the 80s). Also, the console ports were probably doing everyone a favor by only allowing 2 enemies on screen at a time because, even in the arcade version, if you were facing 4 or 5 enemies it slowed the game to a crawl. Recently played Double Dragon in emulation and it replicated that experience perfectly.
I forget which one it was specifically but I remember that there was a splinter cell title that had a co-op mode where the very last level ended up where you received a message from a mysterious benefactor that told you to kill your co-op partner. Blast level was you two trying to out stealth each other and kill each other.
Though not exactly the final boss, it is the boss before the final hidden story, I'd like to put to Honorable mention LiveALive, specifically the Middle Ages chapter with Oersted and Streibough
Nishiki is heartbreaking if you play 0 first. Also: there are several instances in Dragon Age where if you fuck up, you have to fight a companion. I did a complete monster Warden once for the achievements and his final party was... Dog, Oghren and Loghain with no one to defend the gates. But for once I got to see the werewolf, templar and golem summons for the final battle.
In Jade Cocoon 2 (yeah, me again) you become close friends with Cure who considers you to be her best friend, and towards the end you are forced to fight Cure.. twice, while she is sobbing and saying she thought you were her friend.. it is for a good reason but it was really heartbreaking
What about Otto octavius from Insomniac's Spider-Man he was Peter Parker's friend and mentor in the game and considering he's the final boss of the game I think it should count
That one hurt...through about half the game I somehow mind tricked myself into forgetting the obvious about Otto. Most of the time, I'm just hearing these audio logs being sad and scared listening to Otto just become angrier and angrier and even after I remembered, I kinda hoped he would do his heel turn in a post credit scene or something. The final fight hurt.
@@daviddaugherty2816 It was done so well...Like, first we're doing work on prosthetics to help people. Then he takes on some shady contracts to keep getting funding. Then we see him get angrier and angrier over a decades old grudge (that is probably completely justified). Also, they had another big villain cooking in the background with Harry and his stuff so it could have went that way instead.
Weird and Unfortunate Things are Happening has a particularly tragic one where your friend during one portion of the game is slowly losing her mind and becoming a monster. She runs away from that protagonist only to later run into the other (oblivious) protagonists as a miniboss that you have to unceremoniously kill. Also, she's a child.
Would A Way Out count? They become friends through the course of the game rather than start as best friends, but imagine being in a fatal gun/fist fight with the person who you escaped prison with, helped you avenge the wrongs caused by a crime lord, and (depending on who you play as) either helped you reconnect with your hurt son and wife or escorted you and accompanied you for the birth of your first born. I know Leo is far more betrayed than Vincent but the fact that they return to the deceased man's family to give them closure afterwards shows how close they have gotten.
Mike's ride, kindness costs nothing. When I'm being manipulated to do the bidding of others, a please or thanks you for performing monstrous acts goes a long way! 😊
In one of the endings of Tales of Xillia 2, if you choose to save your brother, whose death was necessary for you to reach the BBEG, you will have to fight everyone in your party. You essentially murder your best friends, the people who made this journey with you, to stop them from having to sacrifice your brother, who understood the stakes and was willing to give his life to save the world. It was heart wrenching.
oh god, yeah that was rough especially when some of the people youre straight up killing are childhood friends, a demi god, and a little girl just getting over her ptsd
I think a way out should have made this list because not only do you end up fighting someone you thought was a friend game wise but your also actually fighting your friend who you played with. Although not a traditional boss fight i think it should have been on here
My first thought for this prompt was Greedfall. While I don't think it comes out of nowhere (the narrative builds up to it beautifully) it is still heartbreaking, regardless of what ending is chosen.
Ghost of Tsushima has you fighting against your uncle who basically raised you as his own son when your father died. He still loves you but cannot abandon his principles, forcing him to duel you to the death. The whole sequence is heartbreaking.
If you played the Ryder White DLC for Dead Island it was actually "Kevin" who's real name was Chiron on the other end of the radio orchestrating a grand scheme to manipulate both Ryder and the player into a situation where he can escape prison. You only find all this out by playing as Ryder and you'll never actually talk to the survivors as Ryder.
Given the age of the game I can understand why it wasn't referenced but Ace Combat Zero had a devastating betrayal. Your wingman, Pixy, was with you from the start of the game. Then in the midgame he betrays you when you lost your radar and missiles. So you two are stuck using Machine guns. He then comes back in an advance fighter jet with a massive "f*ck you" laser and you have to kill him before you can get to a nuke.
In Double Dragon Neon, you also have a fight between the Lee brothers for the heart of Marian. Of course, this is only after a co-op victory against Giga Skullmageddon, turning what WAS the final boss into a prelude for ending a love triangle.
It's not a challenging boss fight -- nor should it be, being a superpowered conduit versus an ordinary human dying of a plague -- but the topic reminds me of inFAMOUS 2's "Infamous" ending, where Zeke feebly raises a gun to Evil Cole saying "I have to try (to stop you)." Cole even mournfully responds "I know" before dispatching him.
just gonna say it a way out makes you fight with your irl friend and the friend of your main character cause one of the characters vincent was a double cross undercover cop
Can't believe you guys forgot Suikoden 2 and Star Ocean 4. Suikoden 2 literally sees your best friend become the king of the enemy kingdom. You fight him as the final duel in the secret ending. In Star Ocean 4, it's a long running party member that takes off towards the end of the game and comes back as the ultimate big bad.
I can't be the only one who thought Atlas was lying from damn near the beginning... after he said the name of his wife and child, I thought "Those are really stereotypical Irish names... like something a non-Irish person would come up with to sell a lie to another non-Irish person... I'm 90% (I always give a 10% benefit of the doubt) sure this guy isn't who he says he is." So the moment he revealed it was all a lie, I was just kinda like "Yeah I figured... but not like the game gave me the options to just NOT work with him."
Xion from Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days. They spend the whole game building their friendship and endearing us to Xion and Roxas. The fight and the post fight cutscene were heartbreaking.
My list would have Pixy from Ace Combat Zero. Not only is he your best friend, he's your literal wing man for the majority of the game! So at the final fight when you have to duel Pixy in straight air to air combat, literally jousting each other head on to stop him from nuking the entire world, it stings because you, the player, built up the same bond that Cipher (the player character) has. I mean, he survives of course but the theme of the final fight adds to the emotions. I still get chills replaying that level to this day
Suggestion for a commenter edition: Oceanhorn, from well Oceanhorn 2. You were literally beating up a giant orb together, when cutscene and bam and you hear his voice say the iconic line: „Death Rad Activated“ and you think: „Yeah let’s smash this stupid orb“ and then you realize he is, in fact going to smash you, and not the orb. Broke my heart in confusion.
As someone who hasn't played the Yakuza games...that seems like way more than "friendship" I don't tell my bros we'll stick together till death do us part. I also didn't know I needed the tragic story of two Yakuza boys in love becoming enemies till now but I really really do
What about Roxas vs. Xion in Kingston Hearts 365/2?! They shared ICE CREAM!! Not to mention how unsettling it is to see your friend's head deform right in front of you while they say they have to kill you... 😅
Master Miller in Metal Gear Solid is a prime candidate for this! He forms a guide throughout the game, until it turns out he was dead the whole time and was actually being impersonated by your nemesis.
Except it's not brought ever again after this. I guess the whole clone thing eclipsed all else in Snake's mind and he just kinda forgot Miller existed for the rest of the games. (Unfair! they had rapport! Miller was so important to the backstory but it was retconned in so he's just an extra in David's story but urrrgh!)
What’s so funny in Dead Island is that if you build Xian just right and have an orange deathstalker wakizashi you can take Ryder down in literally a few seconds. I didn’t know that going into the fight, I just lucked into building her well and I liked the weapon. In subsequent playthroughs where I refined my skills but kept the same weapon that time dropped from around 10 seconds to about 5 seconds.
I completely agree with Andy about order 66, it started as a genius scheme to wipe out the Jedi that only two managed to survive now I’m not even sure the ones you see get killed on screen are dead
Actually I would say probably most of the ten thousand Jedi knights did die to Order 66. However, with that many Jedi it would not be unreasonable to expect that several dozen of knights and padawans survived and hide. I would suspect more padawan's than knights survived though as the knights were primary targets with the padawans being secondary. Also, I think George Lucas has stated that some Jedi would naturally be unlikely to join up with a troop of clones so that could give them time to hide as well.
One of the bosses in Fuga: Melodies of Steel is *spoilers* Britz, one of your party members. Not only is it hard having to fight him, but the presentation really sells it with your crew weakened from the dismay of having to fight him and Britz audibly forcing himself to fight.
What? No Bulletstorm? They telegraphed the best friend BBEG so hard, it was ultra camp just like the whole insane game! Plus you get to remote control a robot dinosaur monster thing at one point, what's not to love?
Oh, the fish tattoo Nishiki has was absolutely deliberate on the devs' part. In Japanese mythology, a koi slowly climbing a waterfall eventually reached the top and turned into a dragon.
Yeah, and this connection becomes even more apparent because Kiryu's successor in the Yakuza/Like A Dragon franchise is a guy who has a tattoo of a dragonfish and is even voiced by Nishiki's voice actor (in the Japanese dub at least). He even has a similar best friend to final boss story arc in his first outing as the protagonist.
Just about to say that. But to expand on this, it's a metaphor for Nishiki's desire to be like Kiryuu. To be "Like a Dragon".
Because while Kiryuu does not have the kanji for Dragon in his name, one of the kanji has the same reading. Also Kiryuu is the Dragon of Dojima.
One might say it's a... magic carp.
@@RandyRivers2so much get lost in localization
@@AZ-rl7pg Boooooooo.
I'm sad that A Way Out wasn't on this list. That ending fight literally made me cry at the end, especially cause I played that whole game with my IRL best friend and he beat me, so it felt like my real best friend was shooting me. Damn, the feels 😂
I thought it was going to be on here
Thank God, somebody said this. Like some of these are horrible but aware was just downright heartbreaking 💔
Straight up, almost didn’t finish the game because of the betrayal. And what’s worse about it is you have to choose it doesn’t allow you to go at the same time.
The most tragic part of Jedi survivor wasn’t Cere’s death, it wasn’t Bode’s betrayal, it was the sigh that Kata gives when she understands what must be done.
Yeah. Kata clearly has a lot of emotional scars that need addressing. One can only hope that happens, though this is Star Wars, the galaxy where an entire army of magic warrior monks didn't have the sense to conjure up one therapist to counsel their combat veterans.
I'm less shocked Jane was the final boss and more shocked she was my best friend. I had NO idea!
Hey, back off. She's _my_ best friend; she said it herself!
Actually, I think you’ll find Jane is MY best friend
No, mine!
I never suspected Jane would actually admit to being THE final boss!😂
I feel like she's always been pretty transparent about her World domination plans. I'm happy to know she's my best friend though, I think I'll just join her conquest.
@@nina9565 Same!
@@enderhx I'll see you at minion training. Hope she let's us customize our uniforms.
It’s like you’ve never seen one of these vids or something.
@@billyalarie929 that openly? Unprovoked? 😜
For the record, Nishiki wasn't asked by his family to kill him. He was worried that if the family found him, his fate would be even worse.
Yeah he knew the Tojo wouldn't just kill him they'd make him suffer first
Infamous 2 was brutal for me. Though not THE final boss, you were forced to kill your best friend on the evil route. Zeke, the one that’s been with you through it all and had your back, finally sees you for the monster you really are and even though you have superpowers and he just has a gun, he tries to stop you anyway. *sobs*
Yea that was tough i payed a $1 for that at a game store called g2k games
That was heartbreaking. Him acknowledging he can't win but has to try. Then trying to get back up after you shock him so you have to keep hitting up until he stays down.
Came here just to say thi - that Zeke fight on the evil path is absolutely crushing
"Half as long..."
"Twice as bright..."
I was going to type this, but you beat me to it.
Jane is such a polite best friend/final boss. Those usually end with yelling monolouges and then a brutal death.
I can't picture Jane yelling or monologuing, but the brutal death seems on par.
I'm surprised Insomniac's Spider Man wasn't on this list. Peter looked up to Dr. Octavius and considered him a close friend. You could feel the heartbreak and anguish when Spider Man had to fight Doc Oc.
I still get chills from the dialogue in that fight.
"You should be on my side!"
"I was!"
For me it's the "you knew? You knew!" You could feel the anguish and fury but what made it hurt worse was the juxtaposition of the heartbreaking "you knew?" That followed with May
@@theinspiredgamer1949 also chilling lines from Peter during the fight:
"I looked up to you!"
"I hate that you're making me do this!"
@@tycol322 Yes! Beautifully delivered. Same line but very different emotions you could feel from the tone.
Aw, I can't believe I forgot about that! Spidey 2 prediction, we know Pete's got the black suit, I think Miles is gonna beat it out of him.
Does Ghost of Tsushima count? I mean sure, he’s your uncle but Jin’s respect and admiration towards Shimura is akin to a best friendship.
Not the only boss in that game that would qualify
@@goldengamer7242right. I was thinking of the straw hat guy.
@@WarpStarK1rby my thought too
Well you also fought your former best friend/rival too
@@aliteralmoth2243ryuzo was an asshole who is bitching about a lose from years aho
Wait, Jane's the final boss?! Welp, it was nice knowing you all, but I don't think we're getting out of this one
Gentlemen, it's been an honor. (plays violin)
Even the whole squat is no match to her unlimited power!
I’ll never forget the first time playing Dishonored when it felt like the game was ending way too early after beating the Lord Regent.
As soon as I was offered a drink I started thinking “oh no oh dang uh oh!”
Admiral Havlock and Co betraying you and the rest of the loyalists was a bit of a shock the first time playing, and the High Chaos ending is really terrible seeing all of them tearing at you and each other.
The Nishiki one stung for me.
"I knew it", say all the viewers, "Jane finally admits that we're best friends"
She wasn't the final boss but was one of the last bosses - Jill Valentine in Resident Evil 5, Chris' partner/best friend. Hard to fight her having previously played her in RE1 and RE3 😭
I didn't think about it too much because Wesker keeps on Matrix-Punch me
Nah, that fight is more on saving her than beat her. She's not betraying us or having different ideology, she's being brainwashed against her will.
This happens ALL THE TIME in Kingdom Hearts but the one that gets me every time is Xion in Kingdom Hearts 365/2 Days. The clock tower hang out scenes, the sea-salt ice cream, the crystal tears. I end up bawling every time
😭😭😭😭 Don't remind me
You don't understand, I've been messed up about Nishiki for YEARS. He is what happens when your Yakuza not-Dad sets you up for failure over and over again by treating you like your fellow orphan sworn brother rather than nurturing your actual talents and recognizing when you need support. Nishki was done dirty by everyone but Kiryu and I think about it to this day. 😭😭😭😭😭😭
In Nishikis defense he was also trying to earn enough money to save his sister, cause a doctor started scamming him for backally surgeries
Yeah, Nishiki's story in Kiwami is incredibally tragic and fucked up. He was essentially a broken man who realised that the only way he could rise up was through guile and brutality, transforming from a great man into a total bastard. No justification for his actions, he became a true villain, but one we hoped would, and did, achieve redemption
Also everyone kept telling him at every step that he's worthless and Kiryu is the only one worth anything (despite Nishiki showing he has better understanding of strategy)
Dead Island doesn’t count. In the DLC it’s revealed Colonel Ryder was NOT the person on the radio. Ryder never interacted with them until he took the antidote near the end of the game. He also never intended to nuke the island, and, indeed, the island was never nuked.
I remember in Final Fantasy X when you had at the end to summon every single summon that were with you during the entire game and kill them one by one before facing yevon. It even has tiny bits of scenes of yuna suffering before and after summoning them knowing she has to defeat them.
And that’s why I don’t have best friends in case something dramatic happens and suddenly he swears revenge on me and then we have to fight a brutal but tearful fight on top of a tower
I have a lot of feelings about Bode's betrayal, and the story of Jedi Survivor in general. Good feelings, mind you. When Bode first pulled out that saber, and did that Force Push, I was legitimately in shock. After that whole scene, I had to turn off the game and lie down for a while to process the whole betrayal.
Also Bode hits BD-1, so he's basically unforgivable
Yes, he can't ever get redemtion
Morrowind has two of these.
1) In the base game, Dagoth Ur was one of your closest allies (and possibly more than that, it's not made clear thanks to the game leaving the history murky to let the player draw their own conclusions) during your life as Indoril Nerevar.
2) In the _Tribunal_ expansion, Almalexia was your wife when you were Nerevar.
In both cases they've gone mad thanks to the immortality and power they'd gotten from the Heart of Lorkhan, and you have to put them down for the good of all Tamriel.
Assuming, of course, that the Nerevarine Prophecy was true. The player character may alternatively have been just Azura's pawn for revenge instead of being the Nerevarine. Or just some rando who stopped Dagoth Ur for their own reasons.
I both love and hate that about Elder Scrolls: that we never quite know what is the "truth". Like with Tiber Septim. Was he Hjalti Early-Beard of High Rock, or Talos of Atmora? Was a noble, just emperor who conquered Tamriel to save it, or was he a power-hungry bastard who stole the throne out of greed? All of the above? We just don't know!
@@jorvach9874 fair points, and I do enjoy the ambiguity. Just not the Dragon Breaks, those were stupid.
The first game that came to my mind is A Way Out. Never have I seen so many streamers not wanting to complete a game. And then get really competitive
Seconded! I can't believe it's not there
How do you not have "A Way Out" on here, the final boss being your best friend is the entire point of the game! Such a heart breaking final fight, as not only are you fighting your best friend in game but also fighting them in real life through the game! Your killing your friends character!
One thing I cant stress enough that I love about the OX crew that they do different from most is including the spoiler names at the beginning of the video in list order so you can quickly skip before it happens so you dont spoil yourself. Really underrated
Ayyy Thanks for putting me on here guys!
The first OutsideXbox video that has a spoiler that ACTUALLY applies to me lol. I haven’t played Jedi Survivor yet.
It's great, you're going to love it.
How do you guys not have a way out on here? The final boss is literally your real life best friend that you played through the game with.
And that one is canon, not just you best friend making the game more difficult on purpose.
I think just having that one on the list at all is more spoiler than is really acceptable, given the co-op nature of the game.
@@JamesTM maybe, but how many people who haven’t played that game in the past 5 years since it released still plan to and are worried for spoilers?
They've done that list already ages ago with all the games where the final mission is to fight the other player like Splinter Cell and a Way Out.
Was trying to find the name of the game to post it here.
In the game Sekiro Shadows Die Twice, one of the characters that Wolf befriends is Isshin Ashina the patriarch of the Ashina clan. Throughout the game, Isshin helps Wolf in rescuing Kuro and later telling him where to find both the mortal blade and the ingredients he needs to enter the fountainhead palace. Isshin will also give Wolf a scroll containing Ashina style sword techniques in exchange for completing a sidequest for him. Isshin also serves as the final boss for all four of the game's endings. In the Shura ending, he fights Wolf to stop him from turning into a monster while in the other three, he fights Wolf in order to see his grandson Genichiro's final wish realized which is to see Ashina restored to it's former glory.
...He's the final boss in the Shura ending too though?
They should of had Snake Eater on the list, even tho they weren't best friends they had a close relationship something like being friends as a mentor and a student
They's fuckin'
Only she betrayed Snake in the beginning of the game, only to be revealed as secretly acting as a baddy in a complicated Cold War shell game
Just in case we ever get a commentors edition I'm just saying that it is a crime that The boss from snake eater isn't here, Snake has to put down his best friend and the only person who will ever understand him, his pretty much mother. Heartbreaking and then that final salute after he realises that it was pretty much all for nothing.
PORTAL 2!! Cmon guys!
Also Aragami. Literally your only companion throughout the game turns out to be evil and you have to fight them.
Wheatley was admittedly made to be dumb.
The ends justify the means, and even then, she's already won in her objectives.
Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time. Alister Azimuth, exiled Lombax turned substitute father figure turned final boss... which leads to Ratchet becoming one of 2 known Lombaxes left in the universe (at that point in the continuity)
In Dishonored’s Knife of Dunwall DLC Daud’s hideout gets attacked by Overseers in the final mission.
Turns out your loyal lieutenant who’s supplied and guided you throughout the whole DLC was a turn coat.
If you played low chaos she feels remorse and offers the choice to kill or spare her.
But if you’ve been an unrepentant murdering jerk, she feels justified in her actions and is a pretty tough boss.
Please don't kill any of *your* friends at the end of this video, Andy.
I saw nishiki and prepared myself emotionally(I'm not ready)
What about the many times in the kingdom hearts series where you have to fight your best friend in the finale of the game?
It’s not exactly a boss _fight,_ but in the great little game Thief Simulator you’re working for Vinny the whole game when he “rewards” you with a bomb going off. You spend the last third of the game collecting evidence and implicating him in a way that gets him killed by the Gambino crime family.
Pretty poetic as he’d used them to try and kill you.
Murdering your friends is a Shin Megami Tensei tradition. While they're the final bosses in only two mainline games (4 and technically 5 on one route), I think I felt the worst about killing the party on 4a; in most cases, it's character splitting from you over ideals, but in 4a, you're the one explicitly murdering them.
Infamous 2 , admittedly you only get to fight Zeke if you're going Evil, but even so when he just valiantly stands there trying to stop you and looks worse and worse after each lighting bolt. Does really make you feel bad for going evil
I was going to ask about Xion from Kingdom Hearts 356/2 Days, but Riku is technically the final boss.
The censorship in the South Park section was extra funny, because you forgot to censor it in the opening sting. :D
In Nier Automata, 9S becoming one of the final bosses in quite heartbreaking, though so is Emil as a secret boss
He's sort of a miniboss, but I immediately thought of Kain from FF4; he starts out as your Dragoon buddy but gets taken over by Golbez (probably because he's in love with Rosa) and you have to fight him later on
Fontaine's betrayal doesn't really come out of nowhere, as it's hinted at as soon as first level(if you actually pay attention). It's just so subtle you don't even realize it until the end, it's just THAT well written....
The writing is consistent and the writers did a good job of foreshadowing. Once you know, lots of the conversation makes sense in a different fashion all of a sudden. Playing Bioshock a second time hammers in just how much of a bastard Fontaine really is.
0:39 This is the first time I know of where the spoiler list is itself a spoiler. That'd be like "Here's a list of games where you were dead the whole time."
Yakuza Like a Dragon's Nanba fight was legitimately soul crushing
Not fully sure if this would count, but in Mortis Ghost's OFF you have to choose to fight either your puppet (the Batter) or the Judge. In the 'non secret' ending, you'd be pitted against your long time guide who I'd honestly call your best friend throughout the game
Quantum Break should most definitely have been on this list. That’s a heartbreaking final boss fight in my opinion, and I honestly agreed with Paul more than Jack
How about Big Smoke from GTA: San Andreas? He's one of the first of your old friends you meet in the game and is the one behind everything.
Or, how about Angel from Borderlands, who you are forced to kill to stop Handsome Jack. She isn't even hostile to you, but the security system protecting her is.
A friend of mine and I both went to the same college and at one point it had a Double Dragon cab in the student union. We threw so many quarters at it and finally got to the end only to find out you had to fight each other for the girl (look, it was the 80s).
Also, the console ports were probably doing everyone a favor by only allowing 2 enemies on screen at a time because, even in the arcade version, if you were facing 4 or 5 enemies it slowed the game to a crawl. Recently played Double Dragon in emulation and it replicated that experience perfectly.
I forget which one it was specifically but I remember that there was a splinter cell title that had a co-op mode where the very last level ended up where you received a message from a mysterious benefactor that told you to kill your co-op partner. Blast level was you two trying to out stealth each other and kill each other.
Though not exactly the final boss, it is the boss before the final hidden story, I'd like to put to Honorable mention LiveALive, specifically the Middle Ages chapter with Oersted and Streibough
Nishiki is heartbreaking if you play 0 first.
Also: there are several instances in Dragon Age where if you fuck up, you have to fight a companion. I did a complete monster Warden once for the achievements and his final party was... Dog, Oghren and Loghain with no one to defend the gates. But for once I got to see the werewolf, templar and golem summons for the final battle.
Nishki being the thumbnail is perfect
In Jade Cocoon 2 (yeah, me again) you become close friends with Cure who considers you to be her best friend, and towards the end you are forced to fight Cure.. twice, while she is sobbing and saying she thought you were her friend.. it is for a good reason but it was really heartbreaking
For a second there, I thought the name of this video meant that the boss sides with you at the end of the game against an even greater evil.
Like the nod to 'Poltergeist' on Janes T-Shirt, and Andy's T-Shirt is equally amazing
What about Otto octavius from Insomniac's Spider-Man he was Peter Parker's friend and mentor in the game and considering he's the final boss of the game I think it should count
That one hurt...through about half the game I somehow mind tricked myself into forgetting the obvious about Otto. Most of the time, I'm just hearing these audio logs being sad and scared listening to Otto just become angrier and angrier and even after I remembered, I kinda hoped he would do his heel turn in a post credit scene or something. The final fight hurt.
Some very good dramatic irony there. I know who Otto Octavius becomes and so do you, but that didn't make it any less heartbreaking to see it happen.
@@daviddaugherty2816 It was done so well...Like, first we're doing work on prosthetics to help people. Then he takes on some shady contracts to keep getting funding. Then we see him get angrier and angrier over a decades old grudge (that is probably completely justified).
Also, they had another big villain cooking in the background with Harry and his stuff so it could have went that way instead.
Yeah, but it was a foregone conclusion that he would turn evil.
Weird and Unfortunate Things are Happening has a particularly tragic one where your friend during one portion of the game is slowly losing her mind and becoming a monster. She runs away from that protagonist only to later run into the other (oblivious) protagonists as a miniboss that you have to unceremoniously kill. Also, she's a child.
"He has an Australian accent, I don't trust him" I say, in my Australian accent, from Australia.
😂
Would A Way Out count? They become friends through the course of the game rather than start as best friends, but imagine being in a fatal gun/fist fight with the person who you escaped prison with, helped you avenge the wrongs caused by a crime lord, and (depending on who you play as) either helped you reconnect with your hurt son and wife or escorted you and accompanied you for the birth of your first born. I know Leo is far more betrayed than Vincent but the fact that they return to the deceased man's family to give them closure afterwards shows how close they have gotten.
The fight against Xion in kingdom hearts had me sobbing for hours man
Technically, Riku was the final boss in that game, though.
@@WarpChaos Still a best friend- Sora's.
@@WhiteFangofWar That would be KH1 then.
Mike's ride, kindness costs nothing. When I'm being manipulated to do the bidding of others, a please or thanks you for performing monstrous acts goes a long way! 😊
In one of the endings of Tales of Xillia 2, if you choose to save your brother, whose death was necessary for you to reach the BBEG, you will have to fight everyone in your party. You essentially murder your best friends, the people who made this journey with you, to stop them from having to sacrifice your brother, who understood the stakes and was willing to give his life to save the world. It was heart wrenching.
oh god, yeah that was rough especially when some of the people youre straight up killing are childhood friends, a demi god, and a little girl just getting over her ptsd
I think a way out should have made this list because not only do you end up fighting someone you thought was a friend game wise but your also actually fighting your friend who you played with. Although not a traditional boss fight i think it should have been on here
Don't worry, Mike, you're a dad! You can watch any children's show you want and blame it on your kid! (Even if your kid doesn't actually watch it...)
I love when Yakuza makes it into theae videos, it's such a great franchise and even more people should play it
Im a simple man, i see Yakuza, i have to watch
My first thought for this prompt was Greedfall. While I don't think it comes out of nowhere (the narrative builds up to it beautifully) it is still heartbreaking, regardless of what ending is chosen.
Ghost of Tsushima has you fighting against your uncle who basically raised you as his own son when your father died. He still loves you but cannot abandon his principles, forcing him to duel you to the death. The whole sequence is heartbreaking.
I think the actual big boss of all three acts is a bit of a gut punch, but none of them hit harder than Lord Shimura.
I had to turn the game off after the fight and cry a little bit
If you played the Ryder White DLC for Dead Island it was actually "Kevin" who's real name was Chiron on the other end of the radio orchestrating a grand scheme to manipulate both Ryder and the player into a situation where he can escape prison. You only find all this out by playing as Ryder and you'll never actually talk to the survivors as Ryder.
Given the age of the game I can understand why it wasn't referenced but Ace Combat Zero had a devastating betrayal. Your wingman, Pixy, was with you from the start of the game. Then in the midgame he betrays you when you lost your radar and missiles. So you two are stuck using Machine guns. He then comes back in an advance fighter jet with a massive "f*ck you" laser and you have to kill him before you can get to a nuke.
Pixy was who I immediately thought of. As a kid, having him suddenly open fire on me was devastating.
"Yo, buddy. Still alive?"
In Double Dragon Neon, you also have a fight between the Lee brothers for the heart of Marian. Of course, this is only after a co-op victory against Giga Skullmageddon, turning what WAS the final boss into a prelude for ending a love triangle.
It's not a challenging boss fight -- nor should it be, being a superpowered conduit versus an ordinary human dying of a plague -- but the topic reminds me of inFAMOUS 2's "Infamous" ending, where Zeke feebly raises a gun to Evil Cole saying "I have to try (to stop you)." Cole even mournfully responds "I know" before dispatching him.
"Half as long..."
"Twice as bright..."
Lance from Vice City called. He wants his diamond encrusted coke spoon back as well as number 8 on this video.
Mike, you do not need to be ashamed of watching Peppa Pig. You have a tiny human at home.
just gonna say it a way out makes you fight with your irl friend and the friend of your main character cause one of the characters vincent was a double cross undercover cop
Can't believe you guys forgot Suikoden 2 and Star Ocean 4. Suikoden 2 literally sees your best friend become the king of the enemy kingdom. You fight him as the final duel in the secret ending. In Star Ocean 4, it's a long running party member that takes off towards the end of the game and comes back as the ultimate big bad.
I thought about Suikoden 2 all the time, hoping to see it in this video, but alas...
I can't be the only one who thought Atlas was lying from damn near the beginning... after he said the name of his wife and child, I thought "Those are really stereotypical Irish names... like something a non-Irish person would come up with to sell a lie to another non-Irish person... I'm 90% (I always give a 10% benefit of the doubt) sure this guy isn't who he says he is." So the moment he revealed it was all a lie, I was just kinda like "Yeah I figured... but not like the game gave me the options to just NOT work with him."
Xion from Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days. They spend the whole game building their friendship and endearing us to Xion and Roxas. The fight and the post fight cutscene were heartbreaking.
They did her in a different list but I agree 😭😭😭😭 I sobbed at that part
Did you forget kirby and the forgotten land your best friend is literally the other half of the final boss
Agreed
My list would have Pixy from Ace Combat Zero. Not only is he your best friend, he's your literal wing man for the majority of the game! So at the final fight when you have to duel Pixy in straight air to air combat, literally jousting each other head on to stop him from nuking the entire world, it stings because you, the player, built up the same bond that Cipher (the player character) has.
I mean, he survives of course but the theme of the final fight adds to the emotions. I still get chills replaying that level to this day
Completely agree. I was going to be very disappointed if no one had mentioned ACZ. Also that music!
@@sealcuddl3r for sure! Never have I thought I needed a choir to accompany Spanish guitar before.
Not enough cut scenes for an outside Xbox video but I will re listen to zero
Solo Wing Pixy being left off is criminal!
The jedi survivor one still hurts. The betrayal. Played through the game twice and each time I'm like why did you betray me.
Bode: father hood
Me: wtf didn't you just take your daughter to this planet?
Hearing Jane have to explain the plot of The Stick of Truth was absolutely excellent.
Suggestion for a commenter edition: Oceanhorn, from well Oceanhorn 2. You were literally beating up a giant orb together, when cutscene and bam and you hear his voice say the iconic line: „Death Rad Activated“ and you think: „Yeah let’s smash this stupid orb“ and then you realize he is, in fact going to smash you, and not the orb. Broke my heart in confusion.
What about “a way out”
As someone who hasn't played the Yakuza games...that seems like way more than "friendship" I don't tell my bros we'll stick together till death do us part. I also didn't know I needed the tragic story of two Yakuza boys in love becoming enemies till now but I really really do
Despite all of the wackyness that happens in the Yakuza games. The stories can hit real hard.
I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT SHE (Jane), MY BEST FRIEND, WOULD DO THIS TO ME!
We need a version of this list for bosses who weren't the final boss. I was not prepared for Dawn of Mana to turn nearly as dark as it did.
What about Roxas vs. Xion in Kingston Hearts 365/2?! They shared ICE CREAM!! Not to mention how unsettling it is to see your friend's head deform right in front of you while they say they have to kill you... 😅
Riku is the final boss in that game.
@@WarpChaos true, butt Xion's battle really messed me up 😣😅
@@angelface925 "Who else will I have ice cream with?" 😂🤣
Master Miller in Metal Gear Solid is a prime candidate for this! He forms a guide throughout the game, until it turns out he was dead the whole time and was actually being impersonated by your nemesis.
Except it's not brought ever again after this. I guess the whole clone thing eclipsed all else in Snake's mind and he just kinda forgot Miller existed for the rest of the games.
(Unfair! they had rapport! Miller was so important to the backstory but it was retconned in so he's just an extra in David's story but urrrgh!)
They're our BFFs (Best Fiends Forever).
And also, tragically, Big F
What’s so funny in Dead Island is that if you build Xian just right and have an orange deathstalker wakizashi you can take Ryder down in literally a few seconds. I didn’t know that going into the fight, I just lucked into building her well and I liked the weapon.
In subsequent playthroughs where I refined my skills but kept the same weapon that time dropped from around 10 seconds to about 5 seconds.
I completely agree with Andy about order 66, it started as a genius scheme to wipe out the Jedi that only two managed to survive now I’m not even sure the ones you see get killed on screen are dead
Actually I would say probably most of the ten thousand Jedi knights did die to Order 66. However, with that many Jedi it would not be unreasonable to expect that several dozen of knights and padawans survived and hide. I would suspect more padawan's than knights survived though as the knights were primary targets with the padawans being secondary. Also, I think George Lucas has stated that some Jedi would naturally be unlikely to join up with a troop of clones so that could give them time to hide as well.
One of the bosses in Fuga: Melodies of Steel is *spoilers* Britz, one of your party members. Not only is it hard having to fight him, but the presentation really sells it with your crew weakened from the dismay of having to fight him and Britz audibly forcing himself to fight.
Jane is your best friend, your final boss, and your internet mom, all rolled into one. No wonder she's a millionaire youtuber; she puts in the work!
What? No Bulletstorm? They telegraphed the best friend BBEG so hard, it was ultra camp just like the whole insane game! Plus you get to remote control a robot dinosaur monster thing at one point, what's not to love?