My son & I are accomplished surfers. Have just bought a 4"8' Naish Ascend surfboard & 1200sqcm foil. Got up on the board, but fell after 5m - after about 6 sessions in small surf! I don't want to go this route with loooong learning curve. So the question to you is - Approximately how long would it take on average if you train behind a boat/jetski to get sufficiently skilled to go back into the surf?
@@blueplanetsurf cool agree as the lift engine is only 4HP I think food for thought as the eFoils are so expensive you need to be sure. Really appreciate the reply
It really depends on the board volume distribution, where the track is installed, foil used, rider preference, stance, weight, conditions and a few other factors. If the board was designed well to match the foil, it should be well balanced when foil is at center of track. Generally speaking, move it forward if you want more lift, back if you want more control at higher speeds. You can also achieve the same thing by moving your feet forward or backward.
@@blueplanetsurf Thanks for your response. I finally figured out foiling behind the boat yesterday for the first time, and I'm super stoked. I'm totally subscribed to your channel, and really appreciate all that to help the rest of us progress. Sincerely, Joe
@@blueplanetsurf nooo? now i really wanna buy one, and yes i will watch the safety videos so i won't hurt myself and give the product a bad name, Thank you.
A regular waterski tow rope will work. If you use a jet ski, I highly recommend a thicker floating rope that is less Lille to get sucked into the impeller, like this one: www.armstrongfoils.com/armstrong-tow-rope/
I wouldn't think It would take much power. I used to get up behind a 15' with 75hp on slalom ski and I'm 180lbs. the foil board is much more buoyant and obviously bigger than a ski. a jet ski may be just as practical to do this.
Only thing we teach different is to have back foot on the centre of the mast.. like kai lenny , gunnar and every other good rider ..about 1 and a bit inches further forward than you suggest . And dont lean back to lift just release weight from your front foot but keep body roughly centred. Its also handy to get out the side of the boat with rope tension on to isolate one axis when learning then you only deal with two axis instead of three right at the start of the learning process. I find foiling on your knees helps some people where the tip of your knee goes where the tip of your front foot normally would, huge stability increase to learn how a foil works and just tilt your head back or forwards to adjust height when kneeling , or move hips toward the nose or tail if standing. Happy foiling folks.
Good tips thank you. Having the foot on the mast or a bit in front can make it easier for beginners to avoid overfoiling and breaching. Foot position depends on many things however and there is no one “correct” back foot placement in my opinion. Have a look at this photo of Kai Lenny, his back foot is way behind the mast: images.app.goo.gl/RHtXNey9takYX6RQ9 Or this one where his back foot is slightly behind the mast, where I like to put it as well, depending on conditions, foil size and make, board size, rider weight, stance width and other factors: www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=bac49bbc5cb66ee79c1267e013b6a983&action=dlattach;topic=32259.0;attach=87678;image
Hey guys thanks for this it's been really helpful and I am now foiling!
That’s great to hear, welcome to the club, flying over the water is an awesome addiction. 🤙🏼
Great tips! I find myself teaching friends the exact same stuff!
Just trying to impress Dad on Father’s Day haha
Nice Haley, it’s always good to make Dad proud on Father’s Day, enjoy!
That was excellent. Thanks!
Glad you liked it! 🤙🏼
I've only got a big board, fingers crossed 🤞😊
A big board is best to learn on 👍😎👍
My son & I are accomplished surfers. Have just bought a 4"8' Naish Ascend surfboard & 1200sqcm foil. Got up on the board, but fell after 5m - after about 6 sessions in small surf! I don't want to go this route with loooong learning curve. So the question to you is - Approximately how long would it take on average if you train behind a boat/jetski to get sufficiently skilled to go back into the surf?
One session with instructor can be enough to get the feel of the foil and will make the learning process quicker and safer. 🤙🏼
i guess I'm pretty off topic but does anyone know a good place to stream new movies online ?
@Marcel Markus flixportal :P
@Miller Kenzo thanks, signed up and it seems like a nice service =) Appreciate it !
@Marcel Markus No problem xD
Great video and thank you. Bit late to the party but what is the minimum HP engine for a small rib to start doing this ?10HP
We have not tested the minimum HP but it probably depends on rider weight and skill. Getting up on foil does not require a lot of pull if done right.
@@blueplanetsurf cool agree as the lift engine is only 4HP I think food for thought as the eFoils are so expensive you need to be sure. Really appreciate the reply
great info..thanks team....
You’re most welcome 🤙🏼
Really great. thanks
No worries!
Tyler is pretty supportive of Luca but Luca looks pretty skeptical about Tyler. Lighten up Luca!
😂 you are very perceptive
Yeah he was giving him the eyeball big-time..
Nice tutorial! Which software did you used for the screen + your face?
I’m using a green screen and Final Cut Pro. I learned it watching TH-cam videos, haha 🤙🏼
whats the minimal speed to lift a bit as a beginner ? 10kts ?
It depends on the foil used but yes around 10 knots
Hi Robert, where do you recommend beginners should position the mast on the board? Far forward or towards the back of the board?
It really depends on the board volume distribution, where the track is installed, foil used, rider preference, stance, weight, conditions and a few other factors. If the board was designed well to match the foil, it should be well balanced when foil is at center of track. Generally speaking, move it forward if you want more lift, back if you want more control at higher speeds. You can also achieve the same thing by moving your feet forward or backward.
@@blueplanetsurf Thanks for your response. I finally figured out foiling behind the boat yesterday for the first time, and I'm super stoked. I'm totally subscribed to your channel, and really appreciate all that to help the rest of us progress. Sincerely, Joe
@@LEONCJ Great to hear, thank you!
What is the best frontwing size for wakefoiling?
It depends on rider weight and speed of wake. A bigger foil should make it easier but I’m not a wake foiling expert.
Can i surf with it without any rope at all like just me on the beach and just going on and surfing?
Yes, practice behind a boat first and watch our how to foil and foil safety videos before you go in the surf.
@@blueplanetsurf nooo? now i really wanna buy one, and yes i will watch the safety videos so i won't hurt myself and give the product a bad name, Thank you.
@@whiteshadow3841 very good, enjoy and be safe!
This is a long video but has everything you should know before you start foiling: th-cam.com/video/1rJ3awEGcS8/w-d-xo.html
what length rope is recommended?
A regular waterski tow rope will work. If you use a jet ski, I highly recommend a thicker floating rope that is less Lille to get sucked into the impeller, like this one: www.armstrongfoils.com/armstrong-tow-rope/
How small of a boat abs Hp can you foil behind?
It’s possible to foil with a pretty small motor but it takes more skill if there is not much pull on the rope
Ya, that's what I'm wondering, will my 14' aluminum fishing boat with 20HP pull a foil? could change props too.
I wouldn't think It would take much power. I used to get up behind a 15' with 75hp on slalom ski and I'm 180lbs. the foil board is much more buoyant and obviously bigger than a ski. a jet ski may be just as practical to do this.
Do you think its possible to go wakesurfing with a light aluminium boat of 50 kilo’s with a 6 hp motor that Goes 14 mph ?
14 mph is enough to tow behind the boat but probably not enough to surf the wake. 🤙🏼
Thx
What length of rope and what kind?
A regular waterskiing tow rope works fine, it needs to be long enough so the rider can get out of the boat wake
Only thing we teach different is to have back foot on the centre of the mast.. like kai lenny , gunnar and every other good rider ..about 1 and a bit inches further forward than you suggest . And dont lean back to lift just release weight from your front foot but keep body roughly centred. Its also handy to get out the side of the boat with rope tension on to isolate one axis when learning then you only deal with two axis instead of three right at the start of the learning process. I find foiling on your knees helps some people where the tip of your knee goes where the tip of your front foot normally would, huge stability increase to learn how a foil works and just tilt your head back or forwards to adjust height when kneeling , or move hips toward the nose or tail if standing. Happy foiling folks.
Good tips thank you. Having the foot on the mast or a bit in front can make it easier for beginners to avoid overfoiling and breaching. Foot position depends on many things however and there is no one “correct” back foot placement in my opinion. Have a look at this photo of Kai Lenny, his back foot is way behind the mast: images.app.goo.gl/RHtXNey9takYX6RQ9
Or this one where his back foot is slightly behind the mast, where I like to put it as well, depending on conditions, foil size and make, board size, rider weight, stance width and other factors:
www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=bac49bbc5cb66ee79c1267e013b6a983&action=dlattach;topic=32259.0;attach=87678;image
Ho brah, howz dat pidgen? What dat udda language you guys speak samoan or Hawaiian or wat?
Mahalo
No problem! 🤙🏼
This guy is hard to listen to