You don’t even know how much he worked on with other massive Japanese companies, games and brands 😅 Undertale opened the door for everything for him in Japan
He’s like a mini celebrity over there. The work he’s done with Hololive and Nintendo is impressive and last time I checked he was writing for a Japanese Magazine talking about game design and story telling. It’s wonderfully unhinged
A tragic story of a young woman’s ghost trapped in a cursed treasure box until her wandering spiritual doppelgänger finally releases her. Marine: LOL that’s hilarious.
Toby and camellia, the 2 same person who also make "Im your treasure box" think it will be nice to linked the story in "Dead Ma'am's chest", not only the story.. the tone and lyrics was have a similiar, that's kinda genius i think.. and they make it more like heavy metal while in the old one using the ME! ME! ME! refrence.
@@fart-man0 U.Z inu, as of Uzai Inu, wich means annoying dog in japanese, so it's him, at least on that case, since in certain places someone or some people may have used U.Z Inu other than Toby, such as in SoundCloud if I'm not wrong.
You're the first person I've seen to mention the "ME! ME! ME!" reference in a post like this. I mean, it hit me square in the face the first time I saw "I'm Your Treasure Box".
Marine's reaction to her "death" and getting slapped reminds me a lot about how creators' tend to put their favorite characters in some traumatizing shit so casually lmao (like Nanami in JJK and Hina in Domekano)
It's because suffering is an easy type of conflict that garners sympathy and, ideally, forces the character to overcome hardship and thereby grow. Some authors take it a bit too far and occasionally forget about that last part. Particularly if they're using it as a way to process their own IRL problems. (See: Hideaki Anno, Yoshiyuki Tomino, allegedly.) On a somewhat deeper level it can be used to explore more extreme aspects of the human condition, in the sense that suffering can be a transformative process that may reveal sides of the character one would otherwise not see, for better or for worse. Then again, some less experienced (mainly younger) writers can simply mistake torturing their character for genuine drama or tragedy while mostly failing to tell a decent story, though I like to think most grow out of that eventually. Provided they don't give up first, anyway.
@@RelativelyBest i think to an extent, it's also about seeing how certain characters would act under duress. like, i know how they're like normally, but what if i push them to their very limits...? i love breaking my blorbos in two to fully comprehend what their insides look like.
discovered you recently and you're one of my favorite clippers now! no clickbait titles, great translations and occasional notes, always include tons of context, actually readable subtitle formatting, and you choose moments that might have otherwise never been clipped. please keep up the great work
It worked. I didn’t know she was dropping one but now I can’t wait. I’ve thought before about how Marine has so many big singles without an album, so I’m sure it’s going to be quality.
@@TheJeSTeR7530 marine and her ichimi lived on a boat on the sea. Marine kept to herself, drawing echi and reading BL books, as her ichimi watched hololive broadcasts on the computer. Life was simple and they were both happy. That was until the day the ichimi heard a voice from the sea.
Its surprising to me that many JP ichimi still haven't fully grasp Marine's brand of humor. That short of her getting slapped was amazing and genius and almost made me fall off the chair laughing. The thought of it being pitiful did not cross my mind at all since she produced it herself in the first place.
It's one of those "sounds funny in your head but it's not". Most people wouldn't find that clip funny even if they don't know who Marine is. Second clip adds a bit of character so it's more likely to come across as funny even though the number might still be small
That particular short just lacked too much context for the reaction Marine hoped for. The rest of the shorts in that series had some sort of punchline, so you didn't really feel bad for her. It was just too much of a shift in mood (like getting a horror HoloGra when it's not in season, or one of those "blink twice if you need us to call the police" situations.)
It's just Marine, if you know her you should know her fetishes and that that short is nowhere near to something bad, I think she released it too early as many people didn't understand her yet
@@otaking3582I've never seen someone get into the franchise while being over 10 So its less about too long, and more about not long enough. You either got in early, or think BbS is the only good one (I am the latter)
At this point, I would not be surprised to see a dead female pirate spirit appearing in one of Toby Fox game. As for Marine herself, the setup is very interesting and tragic, so let's see how she continues the lore.
Marine seems to always be thinking about how she can reach out to her "shipmates" to relate more with them, and that's a very deep aspect of her as a person. She's not simply a "yabe" character trying to get a rise out of everybody with her sexual interests, although the possibility of luring and retaining us for those purposes cannot be denied. I just think that she has deeper concerns for people's feelings than that, as she has expressed by talking about her past and letting people know of her past regrets as teaching moments. I believe she's genuinely a caring person and that the "yabe" stuff is her characteristic "schtick", which I find incredibly funny.
i know this is my fault for not properly reading the credits for songs but like. it feels ironic that the first thing to jump out at me from dead ma'am's chest was the maribako leitmotif, only to find out now that toby fox, the man who incited my love for leitmotifs in the first place, worked on both songs
Sees tittle Sees that toby fox could block you in X if you name his previous songs or ask about it Knows he´s kinda wild with his music selection Understandable
A Pirate that finds out she's alredy dead and having to fight her own ghost trapped inside a cursed chest? Not gonna lie, that's actually a pretty cool pirate story.
The fact that Toby Fox has done so much work with Hololive is still wild to me lol.
You don’t even know how much he worked on with other massive Japanese companies, games and brands 😅 Undertale opened the door for everything for him in Japan
Living the dream..
@@mathieul4303 wow, then he should be happy for that, i mean he started his hobby because of Earthbound
He’s like a mini celebrity over there. The work he’s done with Hololive and Nintendo is impressive and last time I checked he was writing for a Japanese Magazine talking about game design and story telling. It’s wonderfully unhinged
Instead of working on deltarune he professionally simps for hololive smh
Toby should have exactly one character in Deltarune be fully voiced and have it be Marine and never explain it ever
Like Prunsel in Undertale!
Like Jevil?
@@Zero_de_Nova He's not fully voiced, he just has some soundbites. Same with Mettaton and Spamton
A tragic story of a young woman’s ghost trapped in a cursed treasure box until her wandering spiritual doppelgänger finally releases her.
Marine: LOL that’s hilarious.
And sexy
she's a true writer at heart
Toby and camellia, the 2 same person who also make "Im your treasure box" think it will be nice to linked the story in "Dead Ma'am's chest", not only the story.. the tone and lyrics was have a similiar, that's kinda genius i think.. and they make it more like heavy metal while in the old one using the ME! ME! ME! refrence.
What do you mean Maribako was made by U.Z INU that's not Toby Fox that's a completely different guy
@@fart-man0 U.Z inu, as of Uzai Inu, wich means annoying dog in japanese, so it's him, at least on that case, since in certain places someone or some people may have used U.Z Inu other than Toby, such as in SoundCloud if I'm not wrong.
@@Sovaroga What the hell, I had no idea it was also toby fox back then
You're the first person I've seen to mention the "ME! ME! ME!" reference in a post like this. I mean, it hit me square in the face the first time I saw "I'm Your Treasure Box".
1:51 Marine: uhhhh let me be clear
Fk it, take my upvote :/
Marine's reaction to her "death" and getting slapped reminds me a lot about how creators' tend to put their favorite characters in some traumatizing shit so casually lmao (like Nanami in JJK and Hina in Domekano)
Denji
Thus goes the Geode Theoreme: to see a geode in its full beauty and brilliance, you must first break it.
It's because suffering is an easy type of conflict that garners sympathy and, ideally, forces the character to overcome hardship and thereby grow. Some authors take it a bit too far and occasionally forget about that last part. Particularly if they're using it as a way to process their own IRL problems. (See: Hideaki Anno, Yoshiyuki Tomino, allegedly.)
On a somewhat deeper level it can be used to explore more extreme aspects of the human condition, in the sense that suffering can be a transformative process that may reveal sides of the character one would otherwise not see, for better or for worse.
Then again, some less experienced (mainly younger) writers can simply mistake torturing their character for genuine drama or tragedy while mostly failing to tell a decent story, though I like to think most grow out of that eventually. Provided they don't give up first, anyway.
Well, favourite character is different from a favourite person, right
@@RelativelyBest i think to an extent, it's also about seeing how certain characters would act under duress. like, i know how they're like normally, but what if i push them to their very limits...? i love breaking my blorbos in two to fully comprehend what their insides look like.
Ghost girls are in high demand
discovered you recently and you're one of my favorite clippers now! no clickbait titles, great translations and occasional notes, always include tons of context, actually readable subtitle formatting, and you choose moments that might have otherwise never been clipped. please keep up the great work
Lmao I love how she stumbled into a sales pitch
It worked. I didn’t know she was dropping one but now I can’t wait. I’ve thought before about how Marine has so many big singles without an album, so I’m sure it’s going to be quality.
Man, Senchou's new MV is so hype holy shit
Thank you Toby Fox and Camellia
It's so cool to hear about the development of this sort of stuff
Marine is just Isaac in a wig
The Binding of Senchou then ?
@@TheJeSTeR7530 marine and her ichimi lived on a boat on the sea. Marine kept to herself, drawing echi and reading BL books, as her ichimi watched hololive broadcasts on the computer. Life was simple and they were both happy. That was until the day the ichimi heard a voice from the sea.
Not enough poop.
@@23Scadu well of course not, she is a seiso idol
Its surprising to me that many JP ichimi still haven't fully grasp Marine's brand of humor. That short of her getting slapped was amazing and genius and almost made me fall off the chair laughing. The thought of it being pitiful did not cross my mind at all since she produced it herself in the first place.
It's one of those "sounds funny in your head but it's not". Most people wouldn't find that clip funny even if they don't know who Marine is. Second clip adds a bit of character so it's more likely to come across as funny even though the number might still be small
That particular short just lacked too much context for the reaction Marine hoped for. The rest of the shorts in that series had some sort of punchline, so you didn't really feel bad for her. It was just too much of a shift in mood (like getting a horror HoloGra when it's not in season, or one of those "blink twice if you need us to call the police" situations.)
It's just Marine, if you know her you should know her fetishes and that that short is nowhere near to something bad, I think she released it too early as many people didn't understand her yet
As an enjoyer of the headpat ending rather than the slap ending, I can confirm that the sales pitch was highly effective.
HAHAHAHA- Senchou KAKKOI
So basically it's the Sora vs Roxas fight from Kingdom Hearts II, except with pirates
I feel deeply upset that I understood this.
I’ve been in the kh fandom for too long
@@ghostshrimp5006 There's no such thing as being in the KH fandom for too long
@@otaking3582 I can’t unsee it now, The theory crafting Brain rot has already started
@@otaking3582I've never seen someone get into the franchise while being over 10
So its less about too long, and more about not long enough.
You either got in early, or think BbS is the only good one (I am the latter)
@@1stCallipostle Shame on you! Especially since BBS was one of the weaker entries, imo
Jesus.
Two monsters of their creative fields.
At this point, I would not be surprised to see a dead female pirate spirit appearing in one of Toby Fox game.
As for Marine herself, the setup is very interesting and tragic, so let's see how she continues the lore.
I mean, it certainly would smell if there were a dead body in a treasure box.
I feel like after hundreds of years to the point where the body is reduced to a dessicated skeleton it wouldn't smell like anything but dust
Dangerous Marine Smell indeed
lmao, master storyteller immediately flows into a smooth sales pitch, sasuga maririn
I can't believe Marine is Binding of Isaac all along.
You know it going to be a good song when toby fox & camellia made it together
I love Marine
So this confirms toby is uzai inu
it literally means annoying dog
Yeah, this pretty much matches up with what Toby said in his newsletter.
Hololive gonna be part of Undertale universe at this point xD
Marine is too M to the fan😂
I loved both the MV and the slapping short. 😅
Holy that url plug was so on time it scared me.
Imagine this, Marine will appear as an easter egg on Deltarune
Legendary cast
NOT THE PERFECTLY TIMED PLUG AT THE END I CAN'T
Good thing Rushia was there to bring her back from the dead.
She's so unhinged 😂
it was a little sad but honestly every video she makes blows my mind. she puts so much effort into what she wants to do
Takarabako is Marine's Peaceful run endgame.
Dead Ma'am's Chest is Neutral, while the ghost is her after the Genocide run.
Wow very morbid and ominous!
I wonder marine cover sing about the Binks' Brew of brook
i was not expecting marine talking about yuyuko
So she is now Schrodinger's Vtuber. Got it.
The slap was funny, but I can understand a sentiment of "lets not like someone slappin our idol"
Marine seems to always be thinking about how she can reach out to her "shipmates" to relate more with them, and that's a very deep aspect of her as a person. She's not simply a "yabe" character trying to get a rise out of everybody with her sexual interests, although the possibility of luring and retaining us for those purposes cannot be denied.
I just think that she has deeper concerns for people's feelings than that, as she has expressed by talking about her past and letting people know of her past regrets as teaching moments. I believe she's genuinely a caring person and that the "yabe" stuff is her characteristic "schtick", which I find incredibly funny.
Senchou has been a ghost since the Touhou UFO stream? She never actually beat Captain Murasa?
How cool!
MARINE LORE
i know this is my fault for not properly reading the credits for songs but like. it feels ironic that the first thing to jump out at me from dead ma'am's chest was the maribako leitmotif, only to find out now that toby fox, the man who incited my love for leitmotifs in the first place, worked on both songs
this is narilisha san speaking right now
Imagine Dota2 collabs with Marine and make a Marine Kunkka Skin
I am JUST finding this out WTF!?
... I see dead senchous
...Have we gone too far with the teasing?
Sees tittle
Sees that toby fox could block you in X if you name his previous songs or ask about it
Knows he´s kinda wild with his music selection
Understandable
red woman yapping
A Pirate that finds out she's alredy dead and having to fight her own ghost trapped inside a cursed chest?
Not gonna lie, that's actually a pretty cool pirate story.
Hello there :D
So what you're saying, she's Kunka?
bro is not issac 😭😭🙅♂️🙅♂️🚫🚫🔥🗣🗣🔥
It 'd be funny if for some reason Toby Fox and the real person behind Marine senchou starts a relationship and then get married🤔
toby fox has ideas? lmaoooooooroflmao