Hello Taryl, I like the way you fix the mower. What you did to the Zero turn I did the same thing to a bucket truck that had intermittent cycle issues. Fixed it the same way you did Taryl. I also added three wires that were over a hundred foot long. Boom height is 90 foot. What I would like to know from you is what brand would you suggest to purchase that is used ??? I want to keep the costs on the lower side. Thank you for your time and I enjoy the video show. Keep on doing what you do Taryl. My I suggest you do a few better brands to purchase for the average homeowner Sir. Good day Sir. vf
People that make videos so people like me can take someone else's junk, fix it and make a few bucks while helping people like me are the real heroes. First year I did window ACs I bought for $2 each I was able to buy a Ford Ranger and give away 56 here in New Hampshire. Now I do whatever I get my hands on from bicycles, lawnmowers, furniture and appliances to reclaiming wood and fixing cars. I'm not rich but I'll never go without.
Another great video Taryl! My father turned me on to your channel and I have enjoyed your content. He sadly passed this past Wed of cancer, but I want to thank you for giving us both a lot of laughs during the late stage of his journey. He was a grass rat to the max! Respectfully, Josh
Thanks so much. Spent 5000 total on my Toro Myride with a bagger. I think you saved me some big money and grief in the future. I’m going to by the dielectric grease and do preventative maintenance.
I thought they only put that electronic parking brake crap on new cars! Crazy 😵💫 Great work around to save the customer money on the wiring harness Taryl.
Everyone keep your old school lawn equipment with maintenance up to date bcs just like modern cars nowadays they're nothing but a pile of junk ready to give you the worst headaches of your life's... Love your videos TFA
That's what I do with Wheel Horse. The later series 300,400,500 had some cheap features that Toro put in. The C160 is probably the best tractor they ever built. Then Toro bought Wheel Horse and used up the parts inventory I got a great deal on a 314 Toro/Wheel Horse and you have to check under the belt guard for failure to the drive belt idler plastic pulley bushing. I had a failure on a 520 and had to adapt an oillite bronze bushing to take up the slop. Thanks Toro
9:00 Those crimps were made by Crimp supply in Clawson Michigan, about 20 minutes from my house. Nice to see we still make stuff here & its not all done overseas! Thanks for supporting a Michigan business. That's the type of company that hires regular people like me to run their machines for good pay. Usually 8-40 person operations.
Now those shops that sell Toro equipment will buy those replacement terminals, fix the wire harness with the new terminals and charge the customer for a new wire harness. You know it's gonna happen.
Yes, The GT 150 Series is one of many GM/Delphi connector. While many "car" plugs of all brands are "Weather Resistant," coat terminals and body with silicone grease helps make sure any water that gets in can't cause rust for all. Because the seals often "fail" if wires are bend or pulled sideways near the connector body. Or If installed with wires pointing down even with the cover as above, water can sit and wick down thru any seal.
A note from a former assembly line worker . The engineers would love to build a great machine but it's the bean counters who are in charge and they say get it out the door fast and cheap.
You are the Man Taryl , anyone that works with their hands can appreciate the job you just did and also remind others to never pressure wash equipment if you can help it. My mowers never see water just a good leaf blower for cleaning.
Good to see your way Taryl, Thought I would mention my way. If you remove the battery platform (2 bolts) the whole plate comes out really easily and you can install the module from the top with one person. Also as you mention elskins didn't need to remove the gears to disable the parking mechanism, simply take a 10mm and remove what I would call the pawl, It's the part that connects to the module to physically engage/dis-engage the mechanical braking system. It's really easy to remove each 10mm bolt (thread it back in) and let the two arms dangle. push it all day now. Another thing that makes installing the plastic cover ALOT easier is to un-bolt the solenoid and move it a little bit, which gives you the room to properly install the cover and start the problem bolt, which can be tightened (as you mentioned) through the access hole in the frame.
I think I'd figure out a way to bypass that parking brake module and either do without a parking brake or make up some kind of mechanical lever system to apply the parking brake. Nice factory like fix by Taryl though.
There is a work around. I believe I picked up on it through youtube, or one of those chat links a few years ago. It involved dumping the unit and living without parking brakes....
@@JM-yx1lm We need to go back to electro-mechanical controls and ditch the stupid electronic crap. My Deere X-370 is needing a new ECM, $330.00 at the dealer (the only place you can get it). Yes, it controls EVERYTHING, and without it, the mower will not run. I'm all for every safety feature built in to the machine, but it's ridiculous to route every circuit thru ONE module. Seven years old, 240 hours and it's already busted. Poor quality electronics, disgusting.
Great how too, I have a toro 54 inch cut. Will be adding dielectic grease to that conector. And my mower sit's in the garage gaurded by me and my german sheperd.
Hi Taryl, long time subscriber, first time commenter from New Zealand. Classic case of why we should be keeping combustion engines and not converting to electric. If they (Toro, or should that be Zoro) can’t even put electric grease on the terminals, what faith do we have in the companies making the new age mower’s getting it right at the factories. Zoro, that sounds like a new character to go with “Blademan and Throttle “ . Great channel, very helpful and informative. Keep up the great work.
I have the exact same mower With the exact same problem. To me a hand brake isn't worth $200 I ended up just disconnecting the linkage arms and zip tied them outta the way 😂 Also my name IS timmy😊
I've done repairs on modules like that on my own equipment by digging the epoxy potting out from around the broken pin and soldering on a new connection. But no way would I do that as a repair shop. You could not warrantee a shaky repair like that. Thanks for the vids! 👍👍
Anyone who owns one of these like myself and is mechanically inclined knows that 2nd to the motor going is the fear that this thing will. So now thanks to you I can see how to tackle this should it ever. One for the books Taryl !! thank you. Wish the stamp decks on these were thicker, they are prone to rust. Blow and rinse the deck off after mowing. Annually remove the deck and make any repairs and touch ups.
Looks like the ones on the Cummins ISX engine to me If I run into this problem I will find out 😊 Great information and advice Thank You PS. Every connection on that mower needs the grease
Hey Taryl, Tim here (Bobaloo)......this vid is EXACTLY why i sub'd....you find the culprit, cuz u know where to look, like when i'm at my shop, an a customer cant crank their 429 SCJ Torino......it shud be just a cupla wires....i find rotted, miserable, connections......ya gotta know where to look......yep.....BOY, I LOVE YOUR CHANEL........ so you are spot on!!!.......my shops 429 SCJ Torino, THANKS you for vids like this......SCJ runs great now!!!....SAME mind set, dif application!!!....Love it!!
Thanks for the video, Taryl, I remember watching a video of yours and you did a demo on the Toro Timecutter. You said it was a quality lawn mower, so I bought one and I like it a lot sits in the garage.
My fords largest garden tractor has a parking break. I used it the other day, because I needed it to lift something heavy, important! You slam the break and pull the do-dad. It holds perfect. All these modules, and parts, it's part of the system MAN!! lol Tehehehe 🍺
I had the same thing on the same model 2 years ago at the dealership. Terminal broke and all corroded. It was not easy like u said to get out and that cover is a pain! Good work!
You’re the best Taryl! You save your customers all kinds of money. You could have charged him a brand new wiring harness. I’m sure he will be as happy as a clam. Why would Toro put that plug in a place of corrosion??? You could see all the green crusties!
I just worked on one of these.. thankfully that wasn’t the problem.. this one had a single cylinder Toro engine on it. Customer said it would turn over but it would not start. It had no compression. When I turned the flywheel manually, I could feel the piston bump on something.. I pulled the head, and low and behold, there was a carburetor nut, and the flange of the nut was stuck under the intake valve now allowing it to close.. thankfully, by some miracle it didn’t damage anything.. put it all back together, and it ran perfectly.
I am a heavy equipment mechanic, on my rig I have full setts of Deutch for caterpillar Delphi for older deere harness connection kits. Comes with everything to repair or make new harnesses, little pricey but so worth it when ya need it. Anymore I get all refills from Amazon so there ya go.
I own a Time Cutter. I got it used for only $600 and the parking brake was bypassed. I probably would have bought a new module but when I researched it I learned that many people said that they didn't last very long or were defective right out of the box. I decided to replace the module with a universal relay that basically kills everything through the seat switch. I don't have a parking brake but my place is really flat. This is my first Kawasaki powered mower and I really like how it runs and cuts. The only minor issue is that the left hydro is a little bit slow until it warms up and then it's a little faster than the right.
“Thanks for the tip Taryl! I’m gonna but soma them! “ ❤ It’s nice to see another shop doing a rebuild on a connection terminal. I have a customer in my neighborhood we did a rebuild on his PTO switch connector on an old craftsman GT 3000 riding mower. I had to order the terminals from Oregon specifically, and return on the switch with a brand new PTO plunger switch. Even came back with the wires, broken for the PTO clutch so we did that in a Molex terminal. I will be picking up one of your crimping tools very soon!(More capabilities than my static Molex crimper.)
When I’m finished mowing with my 0 turn I give it an air bath from my air compressor. It gets rid of all the grass and dirt and leaves the mower clean and dry. So I hope that the plug ins don’t get the green crustys. It would take a real grass rat to unplug and grease all the plug ins on a new mower but maybe you should. With the dialectic grease Great video. Be careful with that pressure washer.
I have a 60" Timecutter Toro and I love it. I love the fact that when I move the handles to get out of the mower I know that the parking brake is going to lock the wheels so I don't have to worry about getting run over. I have the 6-blade mod on it and it cuts great. I'm going to check the connector on my brake and see if it's okay. I'll order another parking brake unit to be ready. BTW, I do not ever wash my mower. I found that with my old Crafstman garden tractor(1993) that the more I washed it the faster It rusted. Now I just air blow my Toro off very well even the blades and deck. I'm going to pull my engine tins to make sure I don't have grass clippings and dirt building up in my engine air flow path so it doesn't cause my engine to overheat. ( That Taryl, he's got me worried, I'm worried Taryl, my engine may overheat. I can't have that cause that's bad, real bad.)😛
That was brilliant to find and replace those terminals. I think if I was doing it as a DIYer without seeing your video I would end up buying the whole harness and cut off the plug and solder it onto the old wiring harness.
Great work! Very few shops would research and replace those terminals! I have a mid 80s Snapper Hi Vac walk behind with a Subaroo engine. Pre safety nonsense. It is mighty and well designed.
@@lewiemcneely9143 Yeah! I also run Bobcat snowthrowers (Wisconsin Marine) with Briggs 8hp flatheads. No safety bales, 1/4 thick plate for the augers, slip clutches instead of sheer pins, etc. If someone can fix stuff, I really don't know why they would buy new. The new gear is just total garbage. But yeah, I guess I get it.. most people don't want to sit around finding parts for the old machines.. easier just to buy new and start it up!
@@blobscott I had 8 mowers here but had to let them go. Too geezerish but kept the Snapper for a spare for the Stihl battery job. Also a LT 1000 spare for the battery zero turn coming this week. Got to do what you've got to do! Blessings 2 U
T ! Love ya but need to chip in that yes, I do have that mower. And I did need to replace that part a few years ago. Couple things...It is very hard to get to and I probably wouldn't have done it myself if I had seen this video beforehand. I swapped out my module from underneath and didn't really take off nearly as many parts as you did. Fortunatly I did not have the damaged connector to deal with but I do think that installing the annoying cover is an attempt to protect that connection. It is always a little thrilling to diagnose and fix something like this and your videos are remendously helpful. Thanks
Great repair job! I do take exception with one little thing. You disconnected the positive battery cable. You should always disconnect the negative cable first. Teaching those grass rats bad practice.
Yes. I had that problem with a 2011 time cutter ss4200. Three times. I traded the mower for a 2009 Chevy Aveo5. We were both tickled by the trade. I then found a 2015 ss4225. I haven't had any problems yet. One problem Is the cavity on the brake unit is facing up and gets filled with water and debris and it starts the electrolysis thing and rots off terminals. It doesn't seem to be sealed very well. I think that some silicone caulk would help or hotwire it and wait to die in an emergency.
Thank you thank you thank you. I have been requesting this video foa while now final I get to see the master grass guru working on a problem that I'm actually having
Was the mower stored inside like a shed, trailer or insdie a garage? Asking as in my Toro manual is states to not wash that area and it's preferred to not leave outside in an uncovered area. Seems Toro knew their connectors might rot or long time exposure to moister might cause eletrical problems. Great video and thank you for sharing and taking time putting this video together. :)
Great video. Having to look for parts like that seems part of my usual evening trying to repair machinery that is to complex for what reason? Only problem I saw was you disconnected the battery positive first instead of negative first. It would be interesting to find out who was on the design team, and their experience/qualifications that they brought to this product.
I deal with these type of repairs in the automotive field, I keep all the connectors from harnesses I get from replacements, usually corrosion or Fluffy chewing wires off at the connector. Cut the wires long then you can dissemble the connector and replace the wire and terminal with a solder in wire splice, a lot of times it saves the customer from having to get another component, harness or sensor. Great fix 👍
When I got my new Husqvarna 46" mower, I did some PM work before I used it for the first time. Dielectric greased all the electrical connectors, anti-seized the rear tires, electric pto clutch, bolts for the spindles, and other things to ensure no issues in the future.
Great video. I have one of the time cutters with the tilting seat and the starter solenoid went bad. I know what you mean by a contortionist act to replace it since the solenoid hides under the seat support crossmember and the only way I could access it was by the old flip the wrench on each bolt head face, move the wrench and flip again for another few degrees of movement. Really feel for the two-man nut and bolt action you had to go through.
Just another thing put on for the convenience of not having to pull on a lever to do something....have a friend that has the same concept on his car...how hard is it to pull a lever or press on a pedal to engage a parking brake? In any event, next mower I end up with will not have this feature. Nice job by Tarly on diagnosis and repair in cost efficient way. My tractor would not start one day...had to jump it with screwdriver and or a jump wire to start it....dealer searched all safety switches...finally found it in the 8th safety switch on the thing...how did us older folk survive without them?
I have three Toro zero turns. One has the magic electric brake. I see that the module is $100-150 on line. My main problem has been spindle bearings. I think I'll look at that connector and put some Deoxit on it. I learned about that brake soon after I got the mower. It threw a belt to a hydro unit and I couldn't tow it until I figured out that the switch had to be in the ON position to release the brake. I might be tempted to rig a mechanical replacement for that thing if it fails.
Thanks for this video. I have one of these Toro mowers but mine is a SS5050 model . runs great now but if i ever have this problem now i know what to do. Thanks.
Nice job . I got a older mower at home thats been patched together since i bought it a few years ago ..it mows grass pretty good . Thanks for the videos
You should've able to get the wire seals for the connectors, as it is a GM terminal , and or apply silicone to the back of the harness connector to seal it.
Nice fix Taryl. You would think the engineers at Toro would design this differently. Good to see the old Elkskins. A lot of dealers would charge a fortune to fix this. Taryl has my respect for saving us grass rats some money.
they fixed the issues with the brake after the 2013 model. no issues after that. rust was the main issue. it also is very easy to turn the brake off manually.
If all your Phillips screwdrivers were magnetized, you could put the screw on it and it would hold--works for all kinds of stuff--like carbs--no more dropped screws, etc. Thank me after you become a believer! Learned this working on electronics in a TV shop years ago. :-) Also, I have a pretty good collection of rare earth magnets out of those modules--it's pressed in to the big gear.
You got me curious, so I had to google Happy as Larry, Taryl. Larry Foley was a prizefighter in Australia in the 1890's. The last fight he fought had a prize of about $150,000 and a newspaper headline in New Zealand had Happy as Larry as the headline, and it just stuck. Me being a "Murican, I never heard of that until today... I go to Taryl Fixes All to get my education in World Culture and small engine repair tips. Thanks, Taryl. I feel co cultured now! Wooo Hooooo!!!
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I would like to know where you got the die electric grease in a dispenser style can at !!!
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Hello Taryl, I like the way you fix the mower. What you did to the Zero turn I did the same thing to a bucket truck that had intermittent cycle issues. Fixed it the same way you did Taryl. I also added three wires that were over a hundred foot long. Boom height is 90 foot. What I would like to know from you is what brand would you suggest to purchase that is used ??? I want to keep the costs on the lower side. Thank you for your time and I enjoy the video show. Keep on doing what you do Taryl. My I suggest you do a few better brands to purchase for the average homeowner Sir.
Good day Sir. vf
Anybody that tries to save people money has my respect!
He could have maybe found a used connector fleebay.. I'm sure he looked though.
People that make videos so people like me can take someone else's junk, fix it and make a few bucks while helping people like me are the real heroes. First year I did window ACs I bought for $2 each I was able to buy a Ford Ranger and give away 56 here in New Hampshire. Now I do whatever I get my hands on from bicycles, lawnmowers, furniture and appliances to reclaiming wood and fixing cars. I'm not rich but I'll never go without.
Its not always about money, its about doing stuff, building, repairing and getting dirtyhands, . Did I mention cussing out engineers?
its hard to find repair shops like Taryl's. Most of them will not think outside the box to do the right thing.
Another great video Taryl! My father turned me on to your channel and I have enjoyed your content. He sadly passed this past Wed of cancer, but I want to thank you for giving us both a lot of laughs during the late stage of his journey. He was a grass rat to the max!
Respectfully,
Josh
Sorry to hear about your pops. May he rest in peace. 🙏
My sincere sympathy.
I'm so sorry for you Josh. my empathy to you! total stranger.
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It comes for us all.. There is no escape.
You not only saved the customer money but yourself as well nice work Taryl respect !
A simple weather-pak connector would have solved this problem. Way to go Toro!
Thanks so much. Spent 5000 total on my Toro Myride with a bagger. I think you saved me some big money and grief in the future. I’m going to by the dielectric grease and do preventative maintenance.
I thought they only put that electronic parking brake crap on new cars! Crazy 😵💫 Great work around to save the customer money on the wiring harness Taryl.
Everything is over engineered with built in obsolescence, how does connectors rot away? brass does not rot away.
@@tonysheerness2427 connectors are aluminum or tin steel, cheaper than the brass ones companies used to use.
I had the same problem with my Toro 4225. Luckily it was fixed under warranty. Thanks for all the stuff you show us in your videos.
Everyone keep your old school lawn equipment with maintenance up to date bcs just like modern cars nowadays they're nothing but a pile of junk ready to give you the worst headaches of your life's... Love your videos TFA
That's what I do with Wheel Horse. The later series 300,400,500 had some cheap features that Toro put in. The C160 is probably the best tractor they ever built. Then Toro bought Wheel Horse and used up the parts inventory
I got a great deal on a 314 Toro/Wheel Horse and you have to check under the belt guard for failure to the drive belt idler plastic pulley bushing. I had a failure on a 520 and had to adapt an oillite bronze bushing to take up the slop. Thanks Toro
9:00 Those crimps were made by Crimp supply in Clawson Michigan, about 20 minutes from my house. Nice to see we still make stuff here & its not all done overseas! Thanks for supporting a Michigan business. That's the type of company that hires regular people like me to run their machines for good pay. Usually 8-40 person operations.
Now there's an example of some world class design and engineering !!! lol
Now those shops that sell Toro equipment will buy those replacement terminals, fix the wire harness with the new terminals and charge the customer for a new wire harness. You know it's gonna happen.
Yes, The GT 150 Series is one of many GM/Delphi connector. While many "car" plugs of all brands are "Weather Resistant," coat terminals and body with silicone grease helps make sure any water that gets in can't cause rust for all. Because the seals often "fail" if wires are bend or pulled sideways near the connector body. Or If installed with wires pointing down even with the cover as above, water can sit and wick down thru any seal.
Dont park machines out in the weather and WD40 is ur friend?
A note from a former assembly line worker . The engineers would love to build a great machine but it's the bean counters who are in charge and they say get it out the door fast and cheap.
You are the Man Taryl , anyone that works with their hands can appreciate the job you just did and also remind others to never pressure wash equipment if you can help it. My mowers never see water just a good leaf blower for cleaning.
Yep, the leaf blower trick is the bomb.
A true master at work !
Great job Toro! Manual handbrake is too difficult!
Good thing you have Ole' Elkskin around. He a pretty smart feller to get it able to be loaded. Thanks again Taryl and crew for another great repair.
Does he still work for Taryl? I have not seen him in a while.
Good to see your way Taryl, Thought I would mention my way. If you remove the battery platform (2 bolts) the whole plate comes out really easily and you can install the module from the top with one person. Also as you mention elskins didn't need to remove the gears to disable the parking mechanism, simply take a 10mm and remove what I would call the pawl, It's the part that connects to the module to physically engage/dis-engage the mechanical braking system. It's really easy to remove each 10mm bolt (thread it back in) and let the two arms dangle. push it all day now.
Another thing that makes installing the plastic cover ALOT easier is to un-bolt the solenoid and move it a little bit, which gives you the room to properly install the cover and start the problem bolt, which can be tightened (as you mentioned) through the access hole in the frame.
Thank you for all the detail and trouble you go through to do your videos .
Great job Taryl Fixes All team !👍👍👍👍
I think I'd figure out a way to bypass that parking brake module and either do without a parking brake or make up some kind of mechanical lever system to apply the parking brake. Nice factory like fix by Taryl though.
There is a work around. I believe I picked up on it through youtube, or one of those chat links a few years ago. It involved dumping the unit and living without parking brakes....
@@JM-yx1lm 2010 wiring harness is set up for manual park brake.
@@JM-yx1lm We need to go back to electro-mechanical controls and ditch the stupid electronic crap. My Deere X-370 is needing a new ECM, $330.00 at the dealer (the only place you can get it). Yes, it controls EVERYTHING, and without it, the mower will not run. I'm all for every safety feature built in to the machine, but it's ridiculous to route every circuit thru ONE module. Seven years old, 240 hours and it's already busted. Poor quality electronics, disgusting.
@@santaclause2875 But a big money maker for Deere and Co.
@@georgepruitt637 Correct !!!!
As clean as that Toro looks I suspect the owner power washes it often. That I suspect caused the corrosion on that connector.
yes, it's best to not spray water at anything. many things are designed to shed rain, and they don't do a great job of doing that
I clean my mowers with the air gun.
Or a leaf blower!👍
Great how too, I have a toro 54 inch cut. Will be adding dielectic grease to that conector. And my mower sit's in the garage gaurded by me and my german sheperd.
Hi Taryl, long time subscriber, first time commenter from New Zealand. Classic case of why we should be keeping combustion engines and not converting to electric. If they (Toro, or should that be Zoro) can’t even put electric grease on the terminals, what faith do we have in the companies making the new age mower’s getting it right at the factories.
Zoro, that sounds like a new character to go with “Blademan and Throttle “ . Great channel, very helpful and informative. Keep up the great work.
Zorro did cut--
I have the exact same mower
With the exact same problem.
To me a hand brake isn't worth $200
I ended up just disconnecting the linkage arms and zip tied them outta the way 😂
Also my name IS timmy😊
That's funny
I just cleaned the plug/connection and it worked just fine. It gets gunked up
I've done repairs on modules like that on my own equipment by digging the epoxy potting out from around the broken pin and soldering on a new connection. But no way would I do that as a repair shop. You could not warrantee a shaky repair like that. Thanks for the vids! 👍👍
Plus the labour time.
Anyone who owns one of these like myself and is mechanically inclined knows that 2nd to the motor going is the fear that this thing will. So now thanks to you I can see how to tackle this should it ever. One for the books Taryl !! thank you. Wish the stamp decks on these were thicker, they are prone to rust. Blow and rinse the deck off after mowing. Annually remove the deck and make any repairs and touch ups.
Great job on the repair and saving the customer lots of money…👍👍👍
Looks like the ones on the Cummins ISX engine to me
If I run into this problem I will find out 😊
Great information and advice
Thank You
PS. Every connection on that mower needs the grease
Hey Taryl,
Tim here (Bobaloo)......this vid is EXACTLY why i sub'd....you find the culprit, cuz u know where to look, like when i'm at my shop, an a customer cant crank their 429 SCJ Torino......it shud be just a cupla wires....i find rotted, miserable, connections......ya gotta know where to look......yep.....BOY, I LOVE YOUR CHANEL........ so you are spot on!!!.......my shops 429 SCJ Torino, THANKS you for vids like this......SCJ runs great now!!!....SAME mind set, dif application!!!....Love it!!
This is why you're the best taryl
I keep some dielectric grease in my nightstand.
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the video, Taryl, I remember watching a video of yours and you did a demo on the Toro Timecutter. You said it was a quality lawn mower, so I bought one and I like it a lot sits in the garage.
My fords largest garden tractor has a parking break. I used it the other day, because I needed it to lift something heavy, important! You slam the break and pull the do-dad. It holds perfect. All these modules, and parts, it's part of the system MAN!! lol Tehehehe 🍺
I had the same thing on the same model 2 years ago at the dealership. Terminal broke and all corroded. It was not easy like u said to get out and that cover is a pain! Good work!
Ah yes, the old repin problem, that so many automobiles suffer from. Also, Toro obviously thought "How could we overcomplicate a riding mower?"
You’re the best Taryl!
You save your customers all kinds of money.
You could have charged him a brand new wiring harness. I’m sure he will be as happy as a clam. Why would Toro put that plug in a place of corrosion??? You could see all the green crusties!
Lol so glad my gravely has a manual parking brake. They mad that way more complicated than it needed to be
I just ran into this exact problem. I couldn't find those terminals anywhere! Thanks Taryl!
I just worked on one of these.. thankfully that wasn’t the problem.. this one had a single cylinder Toro engine on it. Customer said it would turn over but it would not start. It had no compression. When I turned the flywheel manually, I could feel the piston bump on something.. I pulled the head, and low and behold, there was a carburetor nut, and the flange of the nut was stuck under the intake valve now allowing it to close.. thankfully, by some miracle it didn’t damage anything.. put it all back together, and it ran perfectly.
That Elkskins is a pretty enterprising young man. He's alot smarter than he looks! Kudos Elkskins!!
The electronic parking brake on a lawnmower. The solution to a problem that never existed. 😒😒😒
I just cleaned out the connection/plug and worked just fine. Problem was it got dirty and I also left it out in the rain. My fault lol
I am a heavy equipment mechanic, on my rig I have full setts of Deutch for caterpillar Delphi for older deere harness connection kits. Comes with everything to repair or make new harnesses, little pricey but so worth it when ya need it. Anymore I get all refills from Amazon so there ya go.
Very professional repair, back to original configuration. Tenacious pursuit of the correct repair parts, KUDOS!
I own a Time Cutter. I got it used for only $600 and the parking brake was bypassed. I probably would have bought a new module but when I researched it I learned that many people said that they didn't last very long or were defective right out of the box. I decided to replace the module with a universal relay that basically kills everything through the seat switch. I don't have a parking brake but my place is really flat. This is my first Kawasaki powered mower and I really like how it runs and cuts. The only minor issue is that the left hydro is a little bit slow until it warms up and then it's a little faster than the right.
“Thanks for the tip Taryl! I’m gonna but soma them! “ ❤
It’s nice to see another shop doing a rebuild on a connection terminal.
I have a customer in my neighborhood we did a rebuild on his PTO switch connector on an old craftsman GT 3000 riding mower. I had to order the terminals from Oregon specifically, and return on the switch with a brand new PTO plunger switch.
Even came back with the wires, broken for the PTO clutch so we did that in a Molex terminal.
I will be picking up one of your crimping tools very soon!(More capabilities than my static Molex crimper.)
When I’m finished mowing with my 0 turn I give it an air bath from my air compressor. It gets rid of all the grass and dirt and leaves the mower clean and dry. So I hope that the plug ins don’t get the green crustys.
It would take a real grass rat to unplug and grease all the plug ins on a new mower but maybe you should. With the dialectic grease
Great video. Be careful with that pressure washer.
I have a 60" Timecutter Toro and I love it. I love the fact that when I move the handles to get out of the mower I know that the parking brake is going to lock the wheels so I don't have to worry about getting run over. I have the 6-blade mod on it and it cuts great. I'm going to check the connector on my brake and see if it's okay. I'll order another parking brake unit to be ready. BTW, I do not ever wash my mower. I found that with my old Crafstman garden tractor(1993) that the more I washed it the faster It rusted. Now I just air blow my Toro off very well even the blades and deck. I'm going to pull my engine tins to make sure I don't have grass clippings and dirt building up in my engine air flow path so it doesn't cause my engine to overheat. ( That Taryl, he's got me worried, I'm worried Taryl, my engine may overheat. I can't have that cause that's bad, real bad.)😛
60" 6 blade? Wow. That must be a great mower. Don't think i ever seen one with 6 blades.
your customers are dam lucky to have you and your family helping them God bless
I have been thinking about a zero turn. Now I'm going to think about this.
Thanks for the tips. You must have put alot of time into this one.
any of the newer ones have a ton of electronic junk, its crazy.
That was brilliant to find and replace those terminals. I think if I was doing it as a DIYer without seeing your video I would end up buying the whole harness and cut off the plug and solder it onto the old wiring harness.
Great work! Very few shops would research and replace those terminals! I have a mid 80s Snapper Hi Vac walk behind with a Subaroo engine. Pre safety nonsense. It is mighty and well designed.
Got an 85 with a 4-horse Briggs flathead and still runs fine. Can't beat the good old stuff!
@@lewiemcneely9143 Yeah! I also run Bobcat snowthrowers (Wisconsin Marine) with Briggs 8hp flatheads. No safety bales, 1/4 thick plate for the augers, slip clutches instead of sheer pins, etc. If someone can fix stuff, I really don't know why they would buy new. The new gear is just total garbage. But yeah, I guess I get it.. most people don't want to sit around finding parts for the old machines.. easier just to buy new and start it up!
@@blobscott I had 8 mowers here but had to let them go. Too geezerish but kept the Snapper for a spare for the Stihl battery job. Also a LT 1000 spare for the battery zero turn coming this week. Got to do what you've got to do! Blessings 2 U
You never fail to surprise me! You are the best at what you do ! Love watching your videos .
Great find and fix , love watching you work on these things ...
I have ran into this same exact problem. Went on Amazon and bought some pin connectors and repinned that pigtail.
The Mountain MTNC48 Crimper has been Discontinued. Love your videos. Your advice on power equipment is Golden.
T ! Love ya but need to chip in that yes, I do have that mower. And I did need to replace that part a few years ago. Couple things...It is very hard to get to and I probably wouldn't have done it myself if I had seen this video beforehand. I swapped out my module from underneath and didn't really take off nearly as many parts as you did. Fortunatly I did not have the damaged connector to deal with but I do think that installing the annoying cover is an attempt to protect that connection. It is always a little thrilling to diagnose and fix something like this and your videos are remendously helpful. Thanks
Great repair job! I do take exception with one little thing. You disconnected the positive battery cable. You should always disconnect the negative cable first. Teaching those grass rats bad practice.
Yes. I had that problem with a 2011 time cutter ss4200. Three times. I traded the mower for a 2009 Chevy Aveo5. We were both tickled by the trade. I then found a 2015 ss4225. I haven't had any problems yet. One problem Is the cavity on the brake unit is facing up and gets filled with water and debris and it starts the electrolysis thing and rots off terminals. It doesn't seem to be sealed very well. I think that some silicone caulk would help or hotwire it and wait to die in an emergency.
Thank you thank you thank you. I have been requesting this video foa while now final I get to see the master grass guru working on a problem that I'm actually having
Was the mower stored inside like a shed, trailer or insdie a garage? Asking as in my Toro manual is states to not wash that area and it's preferred to not leave outside in an uncovered area. Seems Toro knew their connectors might rot or long time exposure to moister might cause eletrical problems. Great video and thank you for sharing and taking time putting this video together. :)
Good class thanks
Great video.
Having to look for parts like that seems part of my usual evening trying to repair machinery that is to complex for what reason?
Only problem I saw was you disconnected the battery positive first instead of negative first.
It would be interesting to find out who was on the design team, and their experience/qualifications that they brought to this product.
Wow nice crimp! Good call on the dielectric grease.
You're the best. I've watched your videos and they have definitely saved me a ton of money and gave me a few laughs
anyone who actually fixes things like this rather than just get the parts cannon going is a winner winner chicken dinner in my book!! love this!!
I deal with these type of repairs in the automotive field, I keep all the connectors from harnesses I get from replacements, usually corrosion or Fluffy chewing wires off at the connector. Cut the wires long then you can dissemble the connector and replace the wire and terminal with a solder in wire splice, a lot of times it saves the customer from having to get another component, harness or sensor. Great fix 👍
Great job as usual
When I got my new Husqvarna 46" mower, I did some PM work before I used it for the first time. Dielectric greased all the electrical connectors, anti-seized the rear tires, electric pto clutch, bolts for the spindles, and other things to ensure no issues in the future.
Awesome work Taryl!!!♥
Great video. I have one of the time cutters with the tilting seat and the starter solenoid went bad. I know what you mean by a contortionist act to replace it since the solenoid hides under the seat support crossmember and the only way I could access it was by the old flip the wrench on each bolt head face, move the wrench and flip again for another few degrees of movement. Really feel for the two-man nut and bolt action you had to go through.
love when you do this type of video
Awesome video thanks for sharing
Just another thing put on for the convenience of not having to pull on a lever to do something....have a friend that has the same concept on his car...how hard is it to pull a lever or press on a pedal to engage a parking brake? In any event, next mower I end up with will not have this feature. Nice job by Tarly on diagnosis and repair in cost efficient way. My tractor would not start one day...had to jump it with screwdriver and or a jump wire to start it....dealer searched all safety switches...finally found it in the 8th safety switch on the thing...how did us older folk survive without them?
I have three Toro zero turns. One has the magic electric brake. I see that the module is $100-150 on line. My main problem has been spindle bearings. I think I'll look at that connector and put some Deoxit on it.
I learned about that brake soon after I got the mower. It threw a belt to a hydro unit and I couldn't tow it until I figured out that the switch had to be in the ON position to release the brake.
I might be tempted to rig a mechanical replacement for that thing if it fails.
taryl you are the best, love your show
Excellent
Thanks for the update and videos
Thanks for this video. I have one of these Toro mowers but mine is a SS5050 model . runs great now but if i ever have this problem now i know what to do. Thanks.
Always a great channel to find out how to do things right.Thanks TARYL 😊
Nice job . I got a older mower at home thats been patched together since i bought it a few years ago ..it mows grass pretty good . Thanks for the videos
Hi Taryl , love your videos.❤
Excellent advice same for the commercial side Toro loves to over complicate simple things
You should've able to get the wire seals for the connectors, as it is a GM terminal , and or apply silicone to the back of the harness connector to seal it.
We always learn something from your videos. Thanks for the schooling.
Nice fix Taryl. You would think the engineers at Toro would design this differently. Good to see the old Elkskins. A lot of dealers would charge a fortune to fix this. Taryl has my respect for saving us grass rats some money.
You are Absolutely Awesome.
Thanks Taryl,
Central California watching
they fixed the issues with the brake after the 2013 model. no issues after that. rust was the main issue. it also is very easy to turn the brake off manually.
You the Man Taryl 👍🏻
If all your Phillips screwdrivers were magnetized, you could put the screw on it and it would hold--works for all kinds of stuff--like carbs--no more dropped screws, etc. Thank me after you become a believer! Learned this working on electronics in a TV shop years ago. :-) Also, I have a pretty good collection of rare earth magnets out of those modules--it's pressed in to the big gear.
Thanks Taryl!
The Master showed himself today. Reminds me of a GM blend door pof. Good Job Taryl.
You got me curious, so I had to google Happy as Larry, Taryl. Larry Foley was a prizefighter in Australia in the 1890's. The last fight he fought had a prize of about $150,000 and a newspaper headline in New Zealand had Happy as Larry as the headline, and it just stuck. Me being a "Murican, I never heard of that until today... I go to Taryl Fixes All to get my education in World Culture and small engine repair tips. Thanks, Taryl. I feel co cultured now! Wooo Hooooo!!!
Like a boss Taryl!!
Very informative video! Thanks for making it! Keep up the great job!
You have the patience of a saint, Taryl-good work!
I have a crimping tool just like that they work excellent
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Love my 42 timecutter , never any issues , never wash it , always blow it off with air compressor.