My grandmother had one, it sat in the corner of the yard with no cover through 4 seasons. I dumped gas down the carburetor and pulled it a bunch of times until it fired up and cut her grass every summer with it.
Being a child of the 50's/60's I never heard of one of these. I appreciate all the things I learn about here at GRASS RATS UNIVERSITY, thanks a million. Taryl, I like your teaching style. It is easy to retain what you show/discuss in each video. I have definitely benefited by watching.
I was 14 when this mower was built. It was also the year I bought a used 1949 Cushman Highlander motor scooter. I'm 76 now and me and that old Cushman are still kicking!
I am also 76 and had a old Cushman Scooter when i was 14-15, later bought a used Sears Crusaire Scooter. Actually the Old Cushman Scooter was well made and would run close to 50 mph. It was much better than a Bicycle and allowed me to travel all those country roads--wish that I still had it. Been Riding Motorcycles and scooters for many years, just recently sold my 750 Honda Shadow...
Awesome video! I think Taryl and all his side kicks should be nominated for an Oscar. His videos sure beat anything out of hollyweird. Always learn something from Taryl, keep up the great work.
I think it's definitely a candidate for a full restoration. I also think it's interesting that the deck design is very much like a Lawn Boy with the front corner discharge. I'll bet it gives a really nice cut. Great video Taryl.👍😁
Taryl, you need to make a 3x5 flag with your logo on it! I would be proud to hang that in my workshop! You have saved me $1000’s! I repair my own equipment now instead of buying new. I’ve also become the neighborhood go to guy for small engine repair thanks to you! I have a pressure washer and a back back blower sitting in my workshop right now that a neighbor dropped off for me to fix! Keep posting the amazing videos!
Great revival. 60 years old and TD brings them back alive. I had no idea B & S made such an engine. Never seen one. I really appreciate TD's decision to maintain originality on this rare equipment as much as possible. I saved as much and renovated as much as I could on my 1948 Ford, and I'm glad I did. It preserves authenticity. Thanks
Thank Taryl, that carburetor was a trip down memory lane. I remember my Dad working on one back in the 70's. He grew up on a farm and didn't want to drive 25-30 miles to the big city just to buy a new diaphragm, so he cut one out of an old bicycle inner tube. I was stunned that the engine started and ran. It was only temporary until his next trip to the city, but it impressed me.
Request! Back in the 60's my dad had a rotary mower with a Briggs & Stratton engine and it had a 'wind-up' spring starter. You folded the crank handle out and cranked it to wind up the spring and when you folded the crank back the spring was released and turned the engine over to start it. I don't think it ever worked very well. I wish I could see you fix one of these.
I found one of those wind up starters. It’s caked with dirt and rust I don’t think it would ever work again. I might put a little time in it and see what happens.
My father owned a Sunbeam crank-start Tecumseh and it was nothing but a pain. Cut the lawn with it for several years. Self-propelled by a toothed belt off the underside crankshaft and helical-cut steel cylinders that rubbed on the rear tires when you pulled the handle up.
Oh my Goodness!!! I love when Elkskins is in the videos!! Love the new haircut 😊 More Elkskins in the videos!!! I think he puts such a funny spin and balance with Taryl
Wow, what a huge piece of fecal!! Never knew they made a pile like that. Maybe if they'd piped the exhaust down under the deck, it might be quieter. You guys are all hilarious! And Elkskins was freakin' hilarious too!
Yes! Sonoduct! It's super cool to see one of these in detail. I think this is one of very few videos out there now of these ultra rare Briggs. Rock on Taryl!
Hi Taryl. I love old machinery like that. That's 8 years older than me. Probably the reason it was hard to turn over was it was built before the idea of depressing the exhaust valve a little bit to reduce the pressure to help starting. This is a reason that exhaust valves get burnt out on older machines that had that "easy" start solution. There are more modern machines that solved it by when the machines up to speed, the little lump to press the exhaust valve retracts so it stops the valve burning out.
You can never say anything bad about a B and S. I pulled one out of a dump once, put in new condenser kit and plug and it worked great! Mowed the lawn with it for two years in South Florida. Learned how to replace piston rings in small engine class but never had to ever do it on an old B and S. Loved them old ones. I never could get one of those Sears Tecumseh engines to run, but a Briggs, never had an issue.
Another great video! Taryl, I have to disagree on the electric power comment. I think for homeowner machines, most people can use an electric mower, weed trimmer, blower, etc. For commercial use, fuel powered tools will be here for quite a long, long time. A lawn crew doing 15- 20 yards a day, can't wait for batteries to charge or deal with the cost of extra batteries going after a couple years, etc.
I generally find using a 'Low Tone' from a larger engine works well Otherwise the options are limited until you fab something like a motorcycle muffler to your app. I've an Onan powered Miller that sounds sweet with 1 discarded HD muffler mounted along the top corner👍 Exits in direction of controls so is easy to monitor exhaust note. I tried a catalytic one >Kawasaki, but decided the exhaust note was cleaned too much... It emitted a clean humid exhaust 🤨Wanted an honest exhaust assessment
....bought a couple "antique-ers", along with more modern small engine stuff at a local pawn shop...really appreciate your inspiring "can do" and humorous "tooterings"... NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH GOD!! @LDS/FPK GA
Very cool find! I've been on the lookout for the 24" Lawnboy version for some time. While they are considered under powered, they aren't as bad as you'd think. This was before the concept of mulching had taken hold. And with the these big, straight, tangent grass chutes at the front of the mower and dead flat blades, they would handle a lot more than you'd think. They only had to cut the grass once, not process it. All that exposed spinning mass under this one is just crazy though. I wonder how many of those scoop castings came apart at 3600 rpm spraying chunks of aluminium shrapnel? Seemed like a great idea at the time......
There are 2 parts to the cover. A bottom that remained on the mover and a top that was hinged for maintenance. Good luck on finding them. I've only ever seen one and it was busted up.
The classic Lawn Boy mowers were the easiest starting and quietest running mowers I used. They did have issues with the muffler filling up with carbon. It wasn't difficult to remove and clean.
Taryl, just check the OD and ID of your unused point plunger bushings. You can probably source a hollow brass rod and cut it to length. Or, solid rod and put it in a drill vice, then drill the center to the correct OD. Great content, and I wish they could have made this design work. It sure makes points cleaning, replacement, and adjustment easy. As someone else commented, I'm surprised they didn't plumb the exhaust to below the deck. We had a Toro / Tecumseh mower. That did that. It did help unless you pushed it across a driveway or sidewalk.
4 years ago I couldn't get ten bucks for a 1972 McLean front throw reel mower and a 1974 McLean edger. Original paperwork on both. Both ran. I finally left them on the curb. Took a few days for someone to grab them.
This brings back memories of me, working on old, engines with my dad building go karts I could troubleshoot these mowers at about age 9, and it wasn’t uncommon for me to tear apart the neighbors lawnmower if they were having problems.
Have you ever seen or worked on a Montgomery Ward lawnmower that to start it! You turned a crank an pushed a button to make the engine over! I had one when I was 6 years old !
I once fixed a leaking gas tank on my 1949 Plymouth using solder and a MAPP gas torch. Worked great (had to remove and thoroughly rinse out gas tank first).
The best advice i can give r starting any Briggs and Stratton with these diaphragm carbs on the fuel tank top is: ALWAYS fill the fuel tank to overflowing. This completely fills every passage in the carb, that bowl...and it softens up the diaphragm.. By the time the engine has warmed up the fuel level will be back down to the cut out in the bowl, the pump will be pumping and the machine will be running well....
I had one of those Honda HRS21's. The engine was very odd and a little different to work on, but not impossible. The carburetor bowl was held on only by plastic tabs that you would squeeze together to remove the bowl, which could easily get knocked off. Otherwise, pretty cool 80s mower!
@@gordbaker896 For removing and servicing yes, it was great. I should've been more specific, when I was transporting it, something hit the carb and it got knocked off a couple of times, most likely my fault and I should've transported it better, but still won't happen as easily if it was bolted on. Otherwise, a great mower, and I miss it
Yeah, I think just about every company out there has an "Edsel" in their past but ol' Breaks N Scrapem had a doozy there! Excellent video as always guys!
Thank you, your help is appreciated. Been watching your titorialas in depth for real world refresher on points. I have a weldanpower 225 with an onan generator from the eighties with dual plug setup, getting fuel 6 years ago but no spark, welded fine 10 years ago before parking it with a cover on back of truck. Onan went through different ownership and no clue to parts availability. Probably many more guys out there with same shituation. No voltage getting to coil, points move nice, they where replaced along with condenser, and some kind of little cdi looking box when I bought it from a guy 12 years ago when it welded great. Wish I was close enough to drop it off. You would blow the interwebs leather gromet out if you worked on a couple of these bastards. Everyone has a brokenan generator in there welder, or camper.
I have a "NEW" in the box "SONODUCT" briggs/ stratton engine( never activated). I worked in a small engine repair shop in the early to mid 70's when these mowers were still in service, and yes we did have some come in that had caught fire with the cover in place, and the customer would not know that there was an active fire until it was too late , the muffler and the pulsa-jet carb with the gas tank bolted to the carb were too close to each other, and would get too hot and go up in smoke, with the cover in place. we would tell the customer to remove the cover!!!!. I also bought the parts for that engine when they were still available. another rare briggs engine is the 1940 mod. "N" that is "WATER COOLED". I have one on a generator( military- new in the crate- never activated)
@@TarylFixesAll , thank you for responding!!!!!, I do not have any covers for those mowers, the only thing that I was aggressive with, was old briggs parts that are no longer available, and complete engines that are used or new/ old stock. I have briggs engines that date back to 1919( when STEVE BRIGGS worked for "A.O. SMITH" as a machinist, and bought out the" motor wheel" from A.O. SMITH, and it became the mod. "P" engine. I have engines from mod. A to ZZ, and mod. 5 to 32 ( cast iron). I also have aluminum engines ( cast iron sleeve blocks starting in 1958 to 1965), with mod. 6, 8 ( 1953 to 1957) up to mod.140000 series( 1955 to 1972). I also collected aluminum engines that have "POINTS/ COND." for spare parts. I am cutting grass with a" 1969 JACOBSEN" mower( that is the newest unit that I have , it goes backward from there) with a" BRIGGS" engine( mod. 92502 code. 6901052) I bought this machine in JULY of 1973(I was 12 years old) when I worked in the small engine repair shop .that engine now has 8,500 hours on it( that includes a 10 year rest from 1979 to 1989), and the bore is at .020 over size starting this past spring. I put 500 hours on it a year, and the engine gets rebuilt every year. I did have exhaust valve stem and guide issues( worn valve stem and guide/ replace brass guide every year) that stopped when I switched to premium grade gasoline( too much alcohol in regular grade gasoline). I tried "MOTORKOTE" that stuff is nothing but expensive snake oil!!!!!. it did not help or hurt the engine!!!! have a great day!!!!!. P.S. STEVE BRIGGS left briggs/ stratton in 1948 to join forces with his buddy "OLLIE EVENRUDE" and they started "O.M.C.", the" lawn boy" mower with the mod. "C or D" series 2 cycle engines were engineered by "STEVE BRIGGS" he liked the 2 cycle engine over the 4 cycle engine( his hands were tied when he was in partners with HAROLD STRATTON who financed the joint venture, so they never developed the 2 cycle engine at" B/S"
Thanks for another good video it's interesting to see how things were put together I used to tear things apart when I was younger I enjoy working on the things but I can't anymore
It's usually best to drill out plugs/stuck pins of important holes by slowly increasing drill size until just under sized.the remaining crap will push out.
👍Makes me want to look up the crank up push mower I used when I was a kid in the 60's. It didn't use a pull rope. You cranked the spring up tight then push down on the crank handle and it started.
I enjoyed watching this video. I know that i will never work on a motor like this, but i watched the whole video anyway. I did learn a lot about the carburetor.
Got me worried a bit now. Never crossed my mind about asbestos in gaskets in these old engines. Having worked on a few vintage ones of late I think I am going to have to be a lot more careful handling the old gaskets now.
Tamil Fan ..Lead in the paint as well. Sanding paint would be toxic. Get a test kit before going forward with any paint removal on old equipment. FYI.. Ethanol replaced lead as an octane booster in gasoline.
I use to have a 3 HP Briggs Push Mower that lasted for 20 years-I paid $39 for it from Gibson Discount many moons ago, it finally just ran out of Compression, I took wheels off it and mounted it on a Frame just for Posterity Sakes. I would start it maybe once or twice a year, it had very little compression but would start and run. In last 5 years, I have went through 3 Push Mowers from Walmart, they will not last much over a year and I take good care of them. That old mower did same job as these newer ones and just would not give up--too many Plastic internal parts...
Hey There Taryl,,, I have watched many of these videos when you have a fuel tank from a old machine that has rust holes in it. There used to be repair kits that you could get from the auto parts store that worked very well. They are. SYON brand if I remember correctly,. I have not seen them in quite a few years now but maybe you could find some online. They are a two part epoxy in a plastic bag type envelope that has a divider in the middle, and the kit comes with a piece of berlap type material in it for the repair. I have used these kit in the past and had very good results. And if I remember correctly the last time I purchased one they were only around ten dollars. Thank you for the videos man. Tim from Wisconsin.
My late 1990s Craftsman edger always needs a spritz of starting fluid to get it running even though I've rebuilt the diaphragm and primer bulb. Same setup this mower has.
Slipper in the chipper, "Fire it up, Fire it up"! Fun video. I have never seen one of those mowers, but know that back when it was being sold, I would never have bought one. Sometimes, good ideas can come from bad decisions, but this wasn't one of those times. I still love the old Briggs engines, they were indestructible. BTW: I drove my bosses Edsel Citation back in 1959 when it was new, and for as ugly as it was, it was a very nice car. GM and Chrysler also made the same styling errors back then. I could never understand how GM could have gone from such a winning design as the 55 and 56 Olds, to the abominations of 57 and 58. The designers and decision makers, must have been on a mushroom diet. Great stuff, I enjoy the actors in your little Playhouse Theater.
One of several things revealing the idea was half-baked, on the top crankcase half there still remained the bosses that held the nuts for the air shroud of the regular model. Despite the model's economic failure, at least they were willing to try something new, however misguided. Truly the Edsel of rotary mowers, I'd never seen one before. Thanks!
Taryl! on Briggs you can test the compression just by spinning the engine backwards quickly, you should get a quick sharp bounce back the other way, if you don't it needs service. spinning it backwards defeats the automatic decompression that's there to make it easier to start.
I’ve got another odd Briggs and Stratton engine from 1963, it has a flywheel lock and a fold out crank on top of the starter housing. Basically you lock the flywheel and turn the crank to wind up a heavy spring inside, then unlock the flywheel and the heavy spring cranks the engine over to start it. Problem was, on the dealer showroom, a customer would lock the flywheel and wind the spring up, leaving it for another unsuspecting customer to walk up and place their foot underneath the mower while not realizing what the knob does, unlocking the flywheel, and the engine cranks over, causing injury to the feet. It ended up being a catastrophe and they pulled the engines immediately.
When I was a teacher we had a two-stroke Briggs& Stratton vertical crankshaft lawn mower engine that came in. We did get it running but eventually scrapped it.
I was 14 years old in 1965 and knocked on doors where the lawn needed mowing. I would charge $2.50. I was getting rich. Briggs and Stratton from Sears.
Just discovered your content a couple of days ago and I'm already a fan. I pick up good diy stuff and I like the different way you state things compared to here in Texas. Win win!
Neighbor had one in the 60’s first rotary mower I used. I had to get a bigger kid to pull it or my dad. When he replaced it with a Murray 4 hp couldn’t believe how easy to pull!👍
"quieter design" Taryl, that's the marketing department within Briggs. Glad to see them 'innovating' anyway. Would be nice to see how they were starting on fire - I assumed it was clippings build-up under the deck, but now that I see how it all works that isn't likely.
I remember as a kid in middle school we had a small engine repair shop class which I loved. But I remember there was a couple flying mowers with wankel rotary engines and no wheels. But we never got a chance to mess with them
I must say, I always enjoyed the Lawnboy deck and am fascinated to see it copied here on a Briggs machine. A normal 3.5 on that deck might be pretty fun to run.
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Need some more HV-350. Web site says "out of stock".
@@rcrobinson9529 Fixed it! We have it in stock thanks!
@@TarylFixesAll Great!! TY.
I lost it at "free flowing lox"
Do you have everything on the website in stock at the shop?
My grandmother had one, it sat in the corner of the yard with no cover through 4 seasons. I dumped gas down the carburetor and pulled it a bunch of times until it fired up and cut her grass every summer with it.
Dang!
Dem ole Briggs motors were great!👍
I doubt that and again I'll say it again I seriously doubt that's the one you used
@@Gothguitarist OK guy. Whatever you think. Lol
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Being a child of the 50's/60's I never heard of one of these. I appreciate all the things I learn about here at GRASS RATS UNIVERSITY, thanks a million. Taryl, I like your teaching style. It is easy to retain what you show/discuss in each video. I have definitely benefited by watching.
Are you getting your B&S degree?
@@michael931 YES! Majoring in B&S with a minor in Ingenious Junk Recycling
I was 14 when this mower was built. It was also the year I bought a used 1949 Cushman Highlander motor scooter. I'm 76 now and me and that old Cushman are still kicking!
Good for you, Tom!!! I ain't fer behind ya !! Go get 'em !!!!
I am also 76 and had a old Cushman Scooter when i was 14-15, later bought a used Sears Crusaire Scooter. Actually the Old Cushman Scooter was well made and would run close to 50 mph. It was much better than a Bicycle and allowed me to travel all those country roads--wish that I still had it. Been Riding Motorcycles and scooters for many years, just recently sold my 750 Honda Shadow...
Awesome video! I think Taryl and all his side kicks should be nominated for an Oscar. His videos sure beat anything out of hollyweird. Always learn something from Taryl, keep up the great work.
So you say they install the undercoat at the factory??
The Oscar is now only for globohomo agenda promotion, not for great acting skills etc.
Cheers! 👌
I think it's definitely a candidate for a full restoration. I also think it's interesting that the deck design is very much like a Lawn Boy with the front corner discharge. I'll bet it gives a really nice cut. Great video Taryl.👍😁
Yea,it's the lawnboy deck,the engine doesn't sound any quieter that the modern engine
Taryl always finds the cool old stuff to bring back to life.
Taryl, you need to make a 3x5 flag with your logo on it! I would be proud to hang that in my workshop! You have saved me $1000’s! I repair my own equipment now instead of buying new. I’ve also become the neighborhood go to guy for small engine repair thanks to you! I have a pressure washer and a back back blower sitting in my workshop right now that a neighbor dropped off for me to fix! Keep posting the amazing videos!
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Great revival. 60 years old and TD brings them back alive. I had no idea B & S made such an engine. Never seen one. I really appreciate TD's decision to maintain originality on this rare equipment as much as possible. I saved as much and renovated as much as I could on my 1948 Ford, and I'm glad I did. It preserves authenticity. Thanks
Thank Taryl, that carburetor was a trip down memory lane. I remember my Dad working on one back in the 70's. He grew up on a farm and didn't want to drive 25-30 miles to the big city just to buy a new diaphragm, so he cut one out of an old bicycle inner tube. I was stunned that the engine started and ran. It was only temporary until his next trip to the city, but it impressed me.
Request! Back in the 60's my dad had a rotary mower with a Briggs & Stratton engine and it had a 'wind-up' spring starter. You folded the crank handle out and cranked it to wind up the spring and when you folded the crank back the spring was released and turned the engine over to start it. I don't think it ever worked very well. I wish I could see you fix one of these.
We had one too when I was a kid. Bought at Leonard's Department Store in Fort Worth TX. Briggs called it an impulse start.
I found one of those wind up starters. It’s caked with dirt and rust I don’t think it would ever work again. I might put a little time in it and see what happens.
My father owned a Sunbeam crank-start Tecumseh and it was nothing but a pain. Cut the lawn with it for several years. Self-propelled by a toothed belt off the underside crankshaft and helical-cut steel cylinders that rubbed on the rear tires when you pulled the handle up.
Got a one on a shelf over here in Australia. Weird but does still work. No idea if it runs but one day I'll do a vid 👍
Oh my Goodness!!!
I love when Elkskins is in the videos!!
Love the new haircut 😊
More Elkskins in the videos!!!
I think he puts such a funny spin and balance with Taryl
Wow, what a huge piece of fecal!! Never knew they made a pile like that. Maybe if they'd piped the exhaust down under the deck, it might be quieter. You guys are all hilarious! And Elkskins was freakin' hilarious too!
Standard Lawn Boy’s already had bottom exhaust. So they weren’t super loud to begin with.
Yes! Sonoduct! It's super cool to see one of these in detail. I think this is one of very few videos out there now of these ultra rare Briggs. Rock on Taryl!
I have a JCP refrigerator manufactured in 1978! Still works!
Hi Taryl.
I love old machinery like that. That's 8 years older than me.
Probably the reason it was hard to turn over was it was built before the idea of depressing the exhaust valve a little bit to reduce the pressure to help starting.
This is a reason that exhaust valves get burnt out on older machines that had that "easy" start solution.
There are more modern machines that solved it by when the machines up to speed, the little lump to press the exhaust valve retracts so it stops the valve burning out.
You can never say anything bad about a B and S. I pulled one out of a dump once, put in new condenser kit and plug and it worked great! Mowed the lawn with it for two years in South Florida. Learned how to replace piston rings in small engine class but never had to ever do it on an old B and S. Loved them old ones. I never could get one of those Sears Tecumseh engines to run, but a Briggs, never had an issue.
Elk Skins is not to be trifled with. One must never mistake his mild-mannered easy going nature as a sign of weakness. Good to see him in a video.👍
Another great video! Taryl, I have to disagree on the electric power comment. I think for homeowner machines, most people can use an electric mower, weed trimmer, blower, etc. For commercial use, fuel powered tools will be here for quite a long, long time. A lawn crew doing 15- 20 yards a day, can't wait for batteries to charge or deal with the cost of extra batteries going after a couple years, etc.
Thanks Taryl for these, look forward to it Sunday morning!
I could hear the sadness in your voice when you said "...battery powered lawnmowers..." ☹️😪
That’s awesome to see the old girl brought back to life and mow grass.
I was born in 1960 so I’ve never seen one of these before.
Wish Briggs still had that muffler. It was one of the quietest I have heard for motors of that age Definitely a piece of history
I generally find using a 'Low Tone' from a larger engine works well
Otherwise the options are limited until you fab something like a motorcycle muffler to your app. I've an Onan powered Miller that sounds sweet with 1 discarded HD muffler mounted along the top corner👍
Exits in direction of controls so is easy to monitor exhaust note.
I tried a catalytic one >Kawasaki, but decided the exhaust note was cleaned too much...
It emitted a clean humid exhaust
🤨Wanted an honest exhaust assessment
My favorite month. Well done gentlemen. I love this channel 🙂💯
Not sure who is the creative genius behind these, but they are just great
....bought a couple "antique-ers", along with more modern small engine stuff at a local
pawn shop...really
appreciate your inspiring
"can do" and
humorous
"tooterings"...
NOTHING IS
IMPOSSIBLE
WITH GOD!!
@LDS/FPK GA
Elk Skins gets another staring role!👍
Would love to see the bloopers!
Very cool find! I've been on the lookout for the 24" Lawnboy version for some time. While they are considered under powered, they aren't as bad as you'd think. This was before the concept of mulching had taken hold. And with the these big, straight, tangent grass chutes at the front of the mower and dead flat blades, they would handle a lot more than you'd think. They only had to cut the grass once, not process it. All that exposed spinning mass under this one is just crazy though. I wonder how many of those scoop castings came apart at 3600 rpm spraying chunks of aluminium shrapnel? Seemed like a great idea at the time......
Taryl you should definitely restore it. I look forward to seeing it all shiny brand new.
Amazing that these dinosaurs can be revived by such an artist who does it with humor and style. One of the coolest restoration videos i've seen.
One man's popsicle stick is another man's toothpick, we don't judge! Great find, never seen one out in the wild.
There are 2 parts to the cover. A bottom that remained on the mover and a top that was hinged for maintenance. Good luck on finding them. I've only ever seen one and it was busted up.
The classic Lawn Boy mowers were the easiest starting and quietest running mowers I used. They did have issues with the muffler filling up with carbon. It wasn't difficult to remove and clean.
Taryl, just check the OD and ID of your unused point plunger bushings. You can probably source a hollow brass rod and cut it to length. Or, solid rod and put it in a drill vice, then drill the center to the correct OD.
Great content, and I wish they could have made this design work. It sure makes points cleaning, replacement, and adjustment easy.
As someone else commented, I'm surprised they didn't plumb the exhaust to below the deck. We had a Toro / Tecumseh mower. That did that. It did help unless you pushed it across a driveway or sidewalk.
I bet K&S makes the right size tubing if it is a standard size.
The grease on that tooth pick really helps it slide between the teeth and that carb spray freshens the breath..Nothing like shop breath.
You could eat an apple through a tennis racquet with choppers like that👍👍😂😂👍great shows👍Cheers from Australia. !
Sure do enjoy it when you get them old ones back on the road, tanks for sharing...
I don't think I've ever seen Elkskins that clean.
4 years ago I couldn't get ten bucks for a 1972 McLean front throw reel mower and a 1974 McLean edger. Original paperwork on both. Both ran. I finally left them on the curb. Took a few days for someone to grab them.
I like seeing the old stuff brought back to life. Even though some them might not be nearly as powerful or efficient as the newer equipment.
Thanks for taking the time to explain how the carburtrader functions. I really enjoyed that part.
That’s cool seeing it running! It’s just like remembering that old DynaMow running! Thanks bud for showing us those old machines working!
This brings back memories of me, working on old, engines with my dad building go karts I could troubleshoot these mowers at about age 9, and it wasn’t uncommon for me to tear apart the neighbors lawnmower if they were having problems.
Have you ever seen or worked on a Montgomery Ward lawnmower that to start it! You turned a crank an pushed a button to make the engine over! I had one when I was 6 years old !
The deck design definitely says Lawn Boy to me. Another great video!
That's an awesome find Taryl and she runs great, great work.
Awesome 😎.
Always wanted to see a video on the sonoduct!
I once fixed a leaking gas tank on my 1949 Plymouth using solder and a MAPP gas torch. Worked great (had to remove and thoroughly rinse out gas tank first).
watched to end. That's what friends are for. It's like the joy of 'firing up' my snow machine!!
Delayed gratification. Fire it up! Fire it up!
Man!! I wish I had that old DynaMow! It was really cool! Heavy, but cool!
The best advice i can give r starting any Briggs and Stratton with these diaphragm carbs on the fuel tank top is:
ALWAYS fill the fuel tank to overflowing.
This completely fills every passage in the carb, that bowl...and it softens up the diaphragm..
By the time the engine has warmed up the fuel level will be back down to the cut out in the bowl, the pump will be pumping and the machine will be running well....
Keep doing what you do so well. Very educational. Thumbs up Tyryl.
I had one of those Honda HRS21's. The engine was very odd and a little different to work on, but not impossible. The carburetor bowl was held on only by plastic tabs that you would squeeze together to remove the bowl, which could easily get knocked off. Otherwise, pretty cool 80s mower!
Interesting
@@WJCTechyman yes man they were always a 2 finger start! And that's how I sold them!
@@WJCTechyman Yes I agree, it was a super durable and quiet mower. I almost miss it haha
Still using one of those. Great design for removing Float Bowl etc. Never got knocked off.
@@gordbaker896 For removing and servicing yes, it was great. I should've been more specific, when I was transporting it, something hit the carb and it got knocked off a couple of times, most likely my fault and I should've transported it better, but still won't happen as easily if it was bolted on. Otherwise, a great mower, and I miss it
Yeah, I think just about every company out there has an "Edsel" in their past but ol' Breaks N Scrapem had a doozy there! Excellent video as always guys!
A nice,lazy Sunday and another great Grass rats video.What a wacky design!-Life is good.-Nice of you to throw "Elkskins" a bone!
Elkskins is a natural in front of a camera, so much raw talent. can he sing and dance too?
My grandpa had an old Dyno Mow that looked a lot like that, but the Briggs engine was upright. Man! I wish I still had it!
Thank you, your help is appreciated. Been watching your titorialas in depth for real world refresher on points.
I have a weldanpower 225 with an onan generator from the eighties with dual plug setup, getting fuel 6 years ago but no spark, welded fine 10 years ago before parking it with a cover on back of truck. Onan went through different ownership and no clue to parts availability. Probably many more guys out there with same shituation. No voltage getting to coil, points move nice, they where replaced along with condenser, and some kind of little cdi looking box when I bought it from a guy 12 years ago when it welded great. Wish I was close enough to drop it off. You would blow the interwebs leather gromet out if you worked on a couple of these bastards. Everyone has a brokenan generator in there welder, or camper.
Check the magneto..... Onans have that problem.
My grandmother would shake her head at this Sonoduct business and call it “flim flam!” But it’s cool, I’d like to hear it run!
That is definitely a Halloween mower, it just looks scary.
That's a cool find isn't Bill, and he's got it going as usual..
@@barryewalt3606 it really is. I am not fond of really old equipment but I would have felt obligated to get that one running
Great to get a piece of history up & running.
Stay well, Joe Z
I have a "NEW" in the box "SONODUCT" briggs/ stratton engine( never activated). I worked in a small engine repair shop in the early to mid 70's when these mowers were still in service, and yes we did have some come in that had caught fire with the cover in place, and the customer would not know that there was an active fire until it was too late , the muffler and the pulsa-jet carb with the gas tank bolted to the carb were too close to each other, and would get too hot and go up in smoke, with the cover in place. we would tell the customer to remove the cover!!!!. I also bought the parts for that engine when they were still available. another rare briggs engine is the 1940 mod. "N" that is "WATER COOLED". I have one on a generator( military- new in the crate- never activated)
Hi Gregory, You wouldn't happen to have an extra cover laying around we could get off ya would you?
@@TarylFixesAll , thank you for responding!!!!!, I do not have any covers for those mowers, the only thing that I was aggressive with, was old briggs parts that are no longer available, and complete engines that are used or new/ old stock. I have briggs engines that date back to 1919( when STEVE BRIGGS worked for "A.O. SMITH" as a machinist, and bought out the" motor wheel" from A.O. SMITH, and it became the mod. "P" engine. I have engines from mod. A to ZZ, and mod. 5 to 32 ( cast iron). I also have aluminum engines ( cast iron sleeve blocks starting in 1958 to 1965), with mod. 6, 8 ( 1953 to 1957) up to mod.140000 series( 1955 to 1972). I also collected aluminum engines that have "POINTS/ COND." for spare parts. I am cutting grass with a" 1969 JACOBSEN" mower( that is the newest unit that I have , it goes backward from there) with a" BRIGGS" engine( mod. 92502 code. 6901052) I bought this machine in JULY of 1973(I was 12 years old) when I worked in the small engine repair shop .that engine now has 8,500 hours on it( that includes a 10 year rest from 1979 to 1989), and the bore is at .020 over size starting this past spring. I put 500 hours on it a year, and the engine gets rebuilt every year. I did have exhaust valve stem and guide issues( worn valve stem and guide/ replace brass guide every year) that stopped when I switched to premium grade gasoline( too much alcohol in regular grade gasoline). I tried "MOTORKOTE" that stuff is nothing but expensive snake oil!!!!!. it did not help or hurt the engine!!!! have a great day!!!!!. P.S. STEVE BRIGGS left briggs/ stratton in 1948 to join forces with his buddy "OLLIE EVENRUDE" and they started "O.M.C.", the" lawn boy" mower with the mod. "C or D" series 2 cycle engines were engineered by "STEVE BRIGGS" he liked the 2 cycle engine over the 4 cycle engine( his hands were tied when he was in partners with HAROLD STRATTON who financed the joint venture, so they never developed the 2 cycle engine at" B/S"
Great skit…👍👍 & WoW that is something different hopefully you find that cover would be a great piece to see restored.
Thanks for another good video it's interesting to see how things were put together I used to tear things apart when I was younger I enjoy working on the things but I can't anymore
It's usually best to drill out plugs/stuck pins of important holes by slowly increasing drill size until just under sized.the remaining crap will push out.
👍Makes me want to look up the crank up push mower I used when I was a kid in the 60's. It didn't use a pull rope. You cranked the spring up tight then push down on the crank handle and it started.
I've been wanting one of these mowers (or at least the engine) for decades! (Edit - got one 6/12/23!)
Neat mower and I would touch up the paint. Thank you for the education about.
I enjoyed watching this video. I know that i will never work on a motor like this, but i watched the whole video anyway. I did learn a lot about the carburetor.
Got me worried a bit now. Never crossed my mind about asbestos in gaskets in these old engines. Having worked on a few vintage ones of late I think I am going to have to be a lot more careful handling the old gaskets now.
Eh a lil asbestos is good for the immune system
@@M.TTT. Baloney!
@@williamjackson5942 now there's something dangerous - baloney or bologna - that'll clog ya arteries
@@williamjackson5942 I'm sure he was joking
Tamil Fan ..Lead in the paint as well. Sanding paint would be toxic. Get a test kit before going forward with any paint removal on old equipment. FYI.. Ethanol replaced lead as an octane booster in gasoline.
I use to have a 3 HP Briggs Push Mower that lasted for 20 years-I paid $39 for it from Gibson Discount many moons ago, it finally just ran out of Compression, I took wheels off it and mounted it on a Frame just for Posterity Sakes. I would start it maybe once or twice a year, it had very little compression but would start and run. In last 5 years, I have went through 3 Push Mowers from Walmart, they will not last much over a year and I take good care of them. That old mower did same job as these newer ones and just would not give up--too many Plastic internal parts...
A retired G.M tech here addicted to watching Taryl fix grass machines.Dystopian...
Thanks for the in-depth review on this style carbetator! I’ve got one to clean up on an 80’s Sear’s tiller!
Same here!
Hey There Taryl,,, I have watched many of these videos when you have a fuel tank from a old machine that has rust holes in it.
There used to be repair kits that you could get from the auto parts store that worked very well.
They are. SYON brand if I remember correctly,. I have not seen them in quite a few years now but maybe you could find some online.
They are a two part epoxy in a plastic bag type envelope that has a divider in the middle, and the kit comes with a piece of berlap type material in it for the repair.
I have used these kit in the past and had very good results. And if I remember correctly the last time I purchased one they were only around ten dollars.
Thank you for the videos man.
Tim from Wisconsin.
My late 1990s Craftsman edger always needs a spritz of starting fluid to get it running even though I've rebuilt the diaphragm and primer bulb. Same setup this mower has.
Slipper in the chipper, "Fire it up, Fire it up"! Fun video.
I have never seen one of those mowers, but know that back when it was being sold, I would never have bought one. Sometimes, good ideas can come from bad decisions, but this wasn't one of those times. I still love the old Briggs engines, they were indestructible.
BTW:
I drove my bosses Edsel Citation back in 1959 when it was new, and for as ugly as it was, it was a very nice car. GM and Chrysler also made the same styling errors back then. I could never understand how GM could have gone from such a winning design as the 55 and 56 Olds, to the abominations of 57 and 58. The designers and decision makers, must have been on a mushroom diet.
Great stuff, I enjoy the actors in your little Playhouse Theater.
This skit is a masterpiece!
That’s a cool old motor. I’ve never seen one of them in all my years. Great revival project. 👍🏻
For only a 3 Horsepower, it seems like it cut pretty good.
Another interesting video.
Never seen one of those mowers. I always learn something when I watch your videos.
That really was pretty amazing, seeing that completely obsolete, obscure, dinosaur breathe back to Life again. Very well done 👏 👏 👏 💥
One of several things revealing the idea was half-baked, on the top crankcase half there still remained the bosses that held the nuts for the air shroud of the regular model. Despite the model's economic failure, at least they were willing to try something new, however misguided. Truly the Edsel of rotary mowers, I'd never seen one before. Thanks!
Taryl! on Briggs you can test the compression just by spinning the engine backwards quickly, you should get a quick sharp bounce back the other way, if you don't it needs service. spinning it backwards defeats the automatic decompression that's there to make it easier to start.
You guys are a riot. Thanks for brightening up my day.
I’ve got another odd Briggs and Stratton engine from 1963, it has a flywheel lock and a fold out crank on top of the starter housing.
Basically you lock the flywheel and turn the crank to wind up a heavy spring inside, then unlock the flywheel and the heavy spring cranks the engine over to start it.
Problem was, on the dealer showroom, a customer would lock the flywheel and wind the spring up, leaving it for another unsuspecting customer to walk up and place their foot underneath the mower while not realizing what the knob does, unlocking the flywheel, and the engine cranks over, causing injury to the feet.
It ended up being a catastrophe and they pulled the engines immediately.
I love seeing the vintage stuff I work on stuff that is an average of 5yrs or older.
Well The color is appropriate on that motor .. cuz it seems to be one lemon of a design ! ... Yeah it runs really quiet all right 😅
Great vedio man. cool rare old briggs no doubt. Only saw one of these in a old briggs repair manual whe I was a kid..keep up the great work yall 👍👍👍👍👍
When I was a teacher we had a two-stroke Briggs& Stratton vertical crankshaft lawn mower engine that came in. We did get it running but eventually scrapped it.
Learn a lot of stuff from you thanks for showing all your trick to big T
I used to make mower bases for Honda, Greenfields and Victa.
These videos are great!
Have learned so much.
Thanks Mr. Dactyl!
I was 14 years old in 1965 and knocked on doors where the lawn needed mowing.
I would charge $2.50.
I was getting rich.
Briggs and Stratton from Sears.
Just discovered your content a couple of days ago and I'm already a fan. I pick up good diy stuff and I like the different way you state things compared to here in Texas. Win win!
Neighbor had one in the 60’s first rotary mower I used. I had to get a bigger kid to pull it or my dad. When he replaced it with a Murray 4 hp couldn’t believe how easy to pull!👍
Tank sealer does work in a pinch to save money or lack of replacement availability.
"quieter design" Taryl, that's the marketing department within Briggs. Glad to see them 'innovating' anyway. Would be nice to see how they were starting on fire - I assumed it was clippings build-up under the deck, but now that I see how it all works that isn't likely.
I remember as a kid in middle school we had a small engine repair shop class which I loved. But I remember there was a couple flying mowers with wankel rotary engines and no wheels. But we never got a chance to mess with them
Thanks for the solder on the tank trick, exactly what I needed to know!
I must say, I always enjoyed the Lawnboy deck and am fascinated to see it copied here on a Briggs machine. A normal 3.5 on that deck might be pretty fun to run.
Very cool, never heard of these before!