Honestly yeah I've seen plenty of Skyrim videos on things people are finding for the first time in Skyrim, and I think to myself: I'm still discovering things I haven't found in Oblivion! My point is that we need more Oblivion and Morrowind TH-camrs so keep it up it's great!
Layers of armor/clothing is one of my favorite features, and like, 3 games do it. It's in Morrowind, Dragon's Dogma (1, it looks like it's removed from 2 . . . sad) and Kingdom Come: Deliverance. Really wish more games would do this. I don't care if there's a bit of clipping.
I love the complexity and layers of Morrowind clothing. Separate gloves is a lot but I think it just makes for more interesting characters and NPCs. There are all kinds of characters who stand out because they're just wearing one pauldron or have mismatched armor. Instead of Skyrim where they're all wearing identical full body costumes...
separate gloves is awesome. I remember having my dunmer dripped out like Anakin with a glove in one hand and nothing in the other. My character was super dope and this game makes me miss this level of versatility
@@SpiderMan-gf1lc yeah exactly. It allows for a weird fluid combination of gear maxing and aesthetics (since clothes can be worn under your armor, but also can be enchanted and are therefore useful). Daggerfall and Morrowind oddly make managing your character kind of like a paper doll, a feel that TES lost over time.
@@nevadanate4957 Daggerfall didn't have shit for options though. You get like, 3 different suits each in 4 separate colours. Compared to the unique look of each and every piece in Morrowind.
Something cool about Morrowind is how the devs intentionally wanted to make magicians part of this elite, otherworldly class. House Telvanni was incredibly gatekeepy on a skill level so you see drip go wild to drive that point home
cephalopod helms are fucken iconic too. i love the concept of crazy-powerful and xenophobic wizards that just look like aliens on formal occasions as a result of ancient traditions and an insular culture
I remember a really wonderful post on r/teslore that analyzed the quality of life of Tamriel's upper class, coming to the conclusion that Tamriel doesn't experience an industrial revolution because the wealthy don't need one, their lives are awesome already, mostly because of magic. Hence whole towns basically living off of the Telvanni's literal trash. I like to imagine that the Telvanni are tapping the Empire's Dreamsleeve messages somehow to keep tabs on what's going on in the Elder Council. Seems like something they'd do.
Some of the original concept art even showed a Telvanni wizard wearing this insane robe/furniture shell thing that seemed to lock them in a laying position while they moved via levitation, only exposing their arms.
It’s so awesome to see another girl on the internet talking about the Elder Scrolls the way I do. Watching your content is so special as an ES girlie 🥺
Kingdom Come Deliverance has a similar layer system and it's awsome, clothes might not give armor points, but wearing nice clean clothes in good condition gives you extra charisma points to get better deals in shops and a better chance of persuading people
Morrowind does at least have significant benefits to layers if you're an enchanter. Being able to have separate enchantments on a robe, shirt, belt, amulet, pants, skirt, shoes, two different gloves, and two rings at the same time is *insanely* beneficial, which is prolly part of why theyve reduced outfit complexity over time.
The only other game I know of that allows even a bit of layering that I know of aside from KCD and Morrowind is Dragon's Dogma, which has "underclothes" layers for your pants and shirt. It's still pretty cool though, and I wish more games had this feature, as well as Morrowind's total breakdown of armor pieces, separating shoulders from arm pieces and left and right arm pieces.
I find myself struck by that kinda revelation too, but I think it mostly feels weird because vidja gaems are such a relatively new medium. Almost everyone enjoys at least some books, music, and movies from before they were born. It doesn't surprise me that kids today are still getting into Biggie Smalls and Nirvana, so it also makes sense they wanna check out Super Mario 64 and Doom. Last year, a 13-year-old was the first person to beat NES Tetris, released in 1989. I bet it's only a matter of time before someone born after 2001 wins a Smash Melee supermajor tournament.
@@Neuvost Agreed, that's a nice perspective. And honestly, it kind of warms my heart a bit to see a younger generation picking up these old classics. It's difficult to really convey how big of an impact a game like Morrowind made back then, it was like a tangible shift in the capabilities of the medium. If you played this game back then it felt like there was no going back now. I don't mind feeling my age, mind you. I appreciate being old enough to have the feeling that I experienced some important video game history as it happened. I think my dad probably felt the same way when I started listening to Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and Black Sabbath as a teenager.
One thing I really like about Morrowind's clothing is how the different styles indicate not only different social classes, but different cultural backgrounds, as well. The more standard medieval-fantasy type stuff tends to be worn by non-Dunmer and people in very Imperialized towns, suggesting those outfits are influenced by fashion styles from Cyrodiil (and of course, the Colovian Fur Helm is explicitly Cyrodiilic - Colovia is the western half of Cyrodiil, so it's weird that we didn't see people wearing them in Oblivion). The Dunmer fashion tends to have a lot of loose fabrics that cover the entire body, and scarves that look like they could be quickly turned into a face-mask - sensible for fashion that arose in a land where dust and ash storms are a regular occurrence. And then, the native Ashland garments have a slightly rougher-hewn look to them, e.g. the Expensive Robe at 7:11, since the Ashlanders, due to their nomadic lifestyle, put plenty of care and effort into making clothes but lack the more advanced technology to get finer stitching, &c. Personally, I really like the way the shirts look on female characters, and I'm glad they didn't make the model change to something more "feminine". But, I've always been a sucker for women in Elizabethan menswear. I don't know if you've played Daggerfall, but I'd love to see a video in this style talking about the fashion in that game, too. It's got at _least_ as many options for fashion customization as Morrowind has, to the extent that playing dress-up in the inventory menu is one of my favorite passtimes in the game.
One cool thing about Morrowind clothing is that NPCs react to what you wear. So if you wear a common shirt and pants they might tell you that you look like a stinky peasant, and when you wear very expensive clothes they might notice that you are doing well. I miss this a bit in Oblivion and Skyrim.
@@E-Bizzy As ugly as its creators, or something like that? Does the bitter Solitude clothing store owner ever not to look down on the player's style? I know she's not impressed even by a legendary Daedric armor set with double enchantments and some daedric artefacts thrown on top of it. She still tells you to rethink your appearance before approaching the Blue Palace.
@@herrakaarme yeah it was something like that. I wish they put more effort into aspects like that. Having unique lines based on which armour or clothes you are wearing would make the world feel more alive.
@@E-Bizzy If computer generated voices replace human actors perhaps for all but the most important NPCs, I reckon we would get no end of different lines. It would be easy for the game studio to write even tens of thousands of lines since they wouldn't need to pay voice actors to record them. Who knows if we are quite there yet quality wise. Robot voice TH-cam videos can still be pretty jarring. But as long as every line has to be voiced by a human voice actor, there will be a hard limit in an open world game like Elder Scrolls with myriad NPCs.
RPGs where the NPCs actually react to the progress of the player are the best. I also loved that in M&B Warband where you slowly earn the begruding respect of the nobles and occassionally they'll bring up specific battles.
Yes, we just need the normies go to a new media type that poison our wheel. I not all details, and collect one of each cloth types all around in all TES games, but people don't get it, i try to do the same in others games as well, and this is why i get soo mad when a outfit is dlc or something exclusive, just why put digital limitation where not need any? Come on, i loved how in runescape you wear what you use, soo, in normal activities i use a cosmetic in game look, but it get ripped apart when they add the cash shop, really bad move, i stop playing and paying for the game in that point
One thing that's really interesting about morrowind clothing is that there are a lot of items that are faction specific. It's harder to notice than rich clothing vs commoner clothing or dunmer fashion vs imperial fashion because the game never addresses it directly. But once you notice it, it becomes a really interesting detail that adds a lot to the worldbuilding and shows how much care they put into this game. Personally I only started noticing after messing with the additem console command, only to then corroborate that npcs were in fact wearing clothing acording to their factions. Basically if you check the IDs of clothing items you'll notice a lot of them end in _a _b _c _d or _1 _2 _3, but then you'll notice there's _h _hh _r _rr _t _tt (this is the house clothing), and _a _e _u _z (for the ashlander tribes). And so each house has two specific common shirts and robes and one extravagant robe and shirt (Redoran are easier to tell because they are all red) and some of them actually have the house emblems embroided. The commoners wearing them (almost all dunmer) are not necessarily memebers of the houses, sometimes they are just simply living on house territories such as Balmora or Vivec cantons. However house specific extravagant clothing is worn exclusively by house members. For example, the Hlaluu extravagant shirt is the golden one Dram Bero and Yngling Half-Troll are wearing, the Redoran extravagant clothing are the ones Athyn Sarethi and Mistress Brara Morvayn wear, and for the Telvanni ones look no further than Master Dratha's shirt and Master Aryon's robe (it's the same as the one you get from the falling wizard who was also a Telvanni member). And yes, other factions will entirely avoid all the house specific clothing. Like you won't find a single imperial guild, temple or cult memeber wearing any of the clothing mentioned above (at least I haven't found one so far). For the Ashlanders each tribe has one of each common and expensive shirt and pants, with ashkhans and wise women usually wearing the expensive ones. Ashlanders witches, the Mabrigash, also have their own specific shirt and pants (expensive_01), and both witches and wise women share an exclusive expensive robe (a brown one with pale red patterns). And again you won't find a single tribe memeber wearing shirts and pants from another tribe or the Mabrigash and vice versa, however some will be wearing common clothing from the houses, which I don't know if it's an oversight or it's meant to indicate trade/theft/abduction/fugitives etc. Ashlander clothing in general is really interesting because you can see the raw materials used to make them, which are all elements ashlanders would have access to like furs, feathers, leather and bones, or in the case of the Ahemmusa who live in the Grazelands, grass. Finally there's two more faction-specific clothing. The temple has a fairly noticeable one which is the cyan robe with golden stripes with daedric letters worn by high ranking members. I remember reading somewhere that the daedric writing can be read and it translates to Vivec sermons, which in turn explain the colors of the robe (Vivec himself and chimer/dunmer). The other is the Morag Tong which has an exclusive shirt and robe (the one Eno Hlaalu is wearing), both with blood red gems with daedric symbols inside. I don't quite remember but they said something about death in daedric, which is expected of Mephala fanclub.
The gloves being separated into left and right is something I like to imagine is because of the two different versions of Wraithguard you can obtain that are technically different Wraithguards, one for the left and one for the right, and then the team just shrugging and going "well why make one category for paired gloves and a separate category just for the Wraithguards" and going with it.
I have no idea how you can make a video about Morrowind clothing without mentioning Caius Cosades and his impeccable fashion sense! We need a follow-up!
I’d like to congratulate how well you’ve launched this channel, you’ve clearly either done a lot of research or have previous experience because this is expertly done, unique concept, well made thumbnails, even a catchphrase with the reading of the elder scrolls. Textbook example on how to launch a successful channel. Well done!
@@WoodEe-zq6qv is there a reason why you bother with such a translucent mask. it's not like it actually _fools_ anyone, it just makes you look like a dumbass imitating something with zero understanding of it which i mean, is accurate, sure. translucent masks, again, not remotely good at hiding anything
Something interesting to note about the Colovian Fur Helm! Sheogorath in Oblivion's Shivering Isles DLC refers to them as 'Arrowcatcher hats', referring back to TES3 Morrowind concept art which labels it as the "Colovian Arrow-Catcher". So there is at least one instance where someone calls them hats and refers to the style of hat, though it's classified as armor in the game. There's also some pointy fur-lined hats in Skyrim that remind me a bit of the arrowcatchers, but they're not kept up like a cone, and are worn more like a Santa hat.
Technically . . . ALL clothing is armor in Morrowind because Morrowind has the "Unarmored" skill that goes up when you take damage in clothing/wearing nothing, and adds to the defensive value of clothing as the skill goes up. Theoretically it's to represent the player dodging attacks, but it works the same as armor values of any other armor type in the game. This is of course, a skill I wish they'd bring back because it makes cloth options for wear much more viable, gameplay wise.
I think you're absolutely right about Zangarmarsh being inspired by morrowind - there was always some eerie familiarity I felt in Seyda Neen the first time I played that I couldn't explain! TBC is my favorite wow expansion and I hadn't played Morrowind until just a few years ago
I never knew how much importance I unconsciously put into my character being stylish until now. Fargoth's simple casual attire is very good, his simplicity, that he under-dresses everybody else yet still looks cosy, is what I like the most.
I think because he has the western clothes, and the imperials are just richer than dunmer so even their peasants dont generally look so poor. The vest shirt combos do look comfy.
what's super cool about the clothing in morrowind is that the common and expensive categories have 4-5 separate items specifically made for the ashlander tribes! like there's a letter at the end of the ID, either a, u, z, or e, to show which tribe it's meant for, plus I think one extra set in the expensive category. i just think it's awesome that they went that far into detailing what each tribe would wear and making separate outfits for each one, even if most players would never even notice that kind of detail ingame (i definitely didn't until a little bit ago and I thought I knew everything about morrowind, lol), really shows how hard morrowind went into worldbuilding
It's ironic how Colovian Fur Helm is a piece of Cyrodiilic fashion (Colovian Highlands is the northwestern part of Cyrodiil) and yet we see it in Morrowind and not Oblivion.
As a fellow fashion nerd in video games, this series has been so enjoyable to go through. And this upload came at the right time, because I’m about to finish the main quest for the first time. Thanks for the video!
I really enjoyed your oblivion video, so to see you posted another one just made me super happy! Finally I found someone just as passionate about fashion as my characters are in game. I always collect a little all-occasions-wardrobe for every single one of them ^^
As a kid, one of my favorite things to do was to wear a partial set of armor under common robes and walk around like I was a commoner until combat happened. Absolutely zero benefit in game, but I liked the roleplay aspect of it. I really fell in love with the white robes you can get from the End of Times cult in Mournhold, too.
Random, but since you mentioned layering clothing in Morrowind and how it's almost unheard of nowadays, there is one other RPG I know of that does it. Kingdom Come Deliverance from 2018. The layers are mostly for armour but most slots can take certain types of clothing, especially the topmost and bottommost layers. So you can have a tunic, then a cotehardie on top, then a leather jerkin, then a waffenrock on top of all of it. You can even look through any baliff's equipment and see "Oh, they're wearing a steel chestplate under their big jacket" Which makes sense because it's low key, they could afford it, and they're expected to help guards keep the peace if someone gets too rowdy. If you ever feel up to it, I'd love to see you make a video on KCD's clothing. I always really liked it.
Great video thanks. Morrowind is my favorite Elder Scrolls game. Order I played was Oblivion, Skyrim, and Morrowind. I admit at first it was difficult to adjust to being so old, but after giving it a fair chance I soon forgot all about those things I thought were limitations. Morrowind is a masterpiece and so rewarding to play as you advance and grow stronger over time in the world. Incredible lore/story. The game was an absolute treat to experience.
With Wraithguard being such an important artifact that’s just a single glove, I wonder if that’s the main reason you can equip gloves separately, and would they have added that functionality without it? Too bad they didn’t separate the shoes and let you run around mismatched in those, too
From technical standpoint, clothing by default have only right meshes. Left side uses mirrored versions. Shoes are the same and separating them wouldn;t add anything to creation/render complexity. Just design decision. Would be great for Sheogorath artifacts, forcing you to wear missmatched shoes.
I love the clothing in Morrwind, It's such a huge miss not to keep the layering in the other games. Like in Skyrim for example, I always mod it so that you can wear circlets with hoods.
Thanks for making me curious about things I never noticed before! I think the gloves are split L/R in Morrowind because there are magical gloves you can combine in different ways for specific situations.
Morrowind-style cozy-gaming is my kind of cozy-gaming :) Meaning: there is an active world-threat, you go tangle with smaller threats until you make it to the Big Bad(s), and you retreat to your cozy shack / Vivec-apartment / hidey-hole for some reading.... and yes, for me - shopping in Balmora at the clothier so I could get some fancy clothes & enchant them!
You seem very sincere, in your conversation, and rather well informed. You are right to have this growing fanbase, and I certainly expect to see this community you are creating grow over time ^^
I know you briefly touched upon it in the Oblivion clothing video, but please do the Shivering Isles clothing overview... To quote Peppermint from Drag Race on The Pit Stop, "It's fashion".
Love this content. Elder Scrolls has been discussed to death (which I am very grateful for ofc) so finding fresh and interesting parts of the games to discuss can be hard and you absolutely knock it out of the park. I think the gloves were probably split up by necessity because unlike boots, gauntlets can be applied to just one hand instead of being worn as a set. It's great both for visual customization and, like you said, enchanting. So because the item slots are separate it makes sense for gloves to be split up as well. Interestingly I think gloves are the only clothing slot that cannot be layered with armor! Also, my favorite outfit combo: The character I play most often is mostly unarmored and dresses fairly simply so I go for black common pants and the red extravagant shirt, paired with a single heavy gauntlet and netch leather boots. I dress for fashion only, the rest of my build speaks for itself in combat lol
I really loved your Oblivion video. Glad to see you continue to discuss this topic with other entries in the series and excited to see what you cover next.
Expand your clothing empire to the RPG Genre as a whole and you will get a mill subs EZ, incredible Niche idea with a lot of potential especially if you start making some of these outfits and wearing them in the videos cosplay style. I saw your amulet of kings and immediately found it and sent to a friend who bought one the same hour, so thanks for that!
que buen video angelica de los mejores elders scrolls el diseño de la ropa, las mecanicas, el roleo, el mapa , la historia cuando todd howard hacia bien las cosas
I don't know how much you've played of Morrowind, but NPCs will actually comment on your clothing, playing voice lines and saying stuff like "Those clothes suit you well, outlander." Also: Gah-Julan bonemold cuirass and L/R pauldrons, Native Chuzei bonemold helmet, bonemold L/R bracers, greaves, and boots + exquisite skirt, pants, and shirt is peak fashion. I can't remember if it's in the base game or if you need mods that let you wear gloves with bracers, but that's also the move.
It's also I think, the last game to have specific NPC comments for if the player is wandering around naked. With everyone telling you to put some clothes on if you're hanging out in your underwear (or in the buff with certain mods).
They still do that in Skyrim, and I feel like that was something in Oblivion as well, but I haven't played it since like 2012 so I cannot say definitively
I think the reason left/right gloves exist is because Sunder is a right-handed gauntlet and that might have rippled out into the greater game design. Or the other way around.
Loving the clothing analysis as a lens into the culture of the games! The community talks so much about the lore, and this feels like an often overlooked aspect of the aesthetic and general vibe of each game. Also noodle pants for noodle legs
I'm so happy I discovered your channel! Every video you make is absolutely delightful! And as a fellow TES lover who's also a digital artist and who's hugely obsessed with complex worldbuilding up to the smallest details, I'm super glad I finally found a youtuber who talks specifically about clothing and crests designs! You are awesome!!!
Greatly appreciate you doing such an honor o the cosmetic side of my fav Elder Scrolls game. I always enjoyed all the clothing and armor choices you get.
My favorite clothes for most playthroughs are the dark blue & gold expensive clothes. Shirt, pants, skirt, shoes, robe, gloves, it all looks good imo. When I play a mage character, if im a Dunmer, I wear the entire set lol.
I just wanted to pop in and say that your channel has become one of my favorites. Having someone focus on the "little things" of the Elder Scrolls, world building, fashion etc. is wonderful. Loving your content both as a fan of Elder Scrolls and as a game master for tabletop rpgs who can steal ideas from your videos! So thank you!
Unsubscribed, disliked and reported for not including the colovian fur hat EDIT: Wait Nevermind, watched one second later. Subscribed, liked, and removed report
You don't know how happy it makes me to have discovered your channel. Just hearing other women talk about the Elder Scrolls universe that I care so much about makes me so so happy. Thank you, love you 🫶 (my first language is not English sorry if I express myself badly 😭)
It’s kind of nutty to me that a non-native-English-speaking model randomly launched a TH-cam channel about one of the nerdiest franchises in gaming talking specifically about minutiae that not even fans of said franchise would normally think about, and it’s almost immediately acquired an audience. It’s a bit prejudiced of me to be surprised by this, but I hope it helps in normalizing the idea that girls, even traditionally attractive ones, like really nerdy things, too.
Thank you so much for this video! Morrowind truly has the most unique clothing out of all the mainstream games. Having different gloves on each hand and wearing clothes on top of armour was such a fantastic feature
You know sometimes youtube throws something my way which I didn't expect, a breaking of clothing in Morrowind done in full seriousness? Fuck it I am here for it, awesome stuff.
Playing Morrowind in 2024 is based
Real
Literally started playing days ago for the first time. Quite the trip.
Honestly yeah I've seen plenty of Skyrim videos on things people are finding for the first time in Skyrim, and I think to myself: I'm still discovering things I haven't found in Oblivion! My point is that we need more Oblivion and Morrowind TH-camrs so keep it up it's great!
So true.
Preach
Drip beyond measure outlander.
Check your blood pressure, outlander.
I love the fact that i automatically heard that in the raspy dunmer voice.
SLAAAAAAAAY N'WAH
N'wah!
Yoooo, it's like, sub sub concious for me at this point. I didn't even realize that I did that.@@Jarulf4477
"They're clearly meant to be paired with a top to make them sense"
*Caius Cosades strongly disapproves*
Caius from the Skyauis.
+1 for using giant mushroom as a showcase runway
It was the only way
I 've never clicked like so fast.
@@Angelikatosh
The Morroway
The Telvanni are known for their higher sense of fashion
i really miss the fact that you could wear robes over your armor in morrowind such a cool feature that's left out of oblivion and skyrim
Yea the slimming down of features from oblivion onward is sad
Layers of armor/clothing is one of my favorite features, and like, 3 games do it. It's in Morrowind, Dragon's Dogma (1, it looks like it's removed from 2 . . . sad) and Kingdom Come: Deliverance. Really wish more games would do this. I don't care if there's a bit of clipping.
@@MidlifeCrisisJoeI can't remember the name right now but there's a medieval Qwop murder demo that has layered clothes and armor
@@dennishogan5696 I guess you don't care for the better magic, level scaling or combat features then?
@@Madhattersinjeans
what do you mean by "the better magic" ? The hardcoded spell list ?
I love the complexity and layers of Morrowind clothing. Separate gloves is a lot but I think it just makes for more interesting characters and NPCs. There are all kinds of characters who stand out because they're just wearing one pauldron or have mismatched armor. Instead of Skyrim where they're all wearing identical full body costumes...
separate gloves is awesome. I remember having my dunmer dripped out like Anakin with a glove in one hand and nothing in the other. My character was super dope and this game makes me miss this level of versatility
@@SpiderMan-gf1lc yeah exactly. It allows for a weird fluid combination of gear maxing and aesthetics (since clothes can be worn under your armor, but also can be enchanted and are therefore useful). Daggerfall and Morrowind oddly make managing your character kind of like a paper doll, a feel that TES lost over time.
@@nevadanate4957 Daggerfall didn't have shit for options though. You get like, 3 different suits each in 4 separate colours. Compared to the unique look of each and every piece in Morrowind.
They seem to had that mechanic just because of Wraithguard lol
@@plebisMaximus Yeah, but you had a ton of clothing options
Something cool about Morrowind is how the devs intentionally wanted to make magicians part of this elite, otherworldly class. House Telvanni was incredibly gatekeepy on a skill level so you see drip go wild to drive that point home
cephalopod helms are fucken iconic too. i love the concept of crazy-powerful and xenophobic wizards that just look like aliens on formal occasions as a result of ancient traditions and an insular culture
@@littlesnowflakepunk855 Yes!! Really made you feel like "im definitely not on this g's level"
I remember a really wonderful post on r/teslore that analyzed the quality of life of Tamriel's upper class, coming to the conclusion that Tamriel doesn't experience an industrial revolution because the wealthy don't need one, their lives are awesome already, mostly because of magic. Hence whole towns basically living off of the Telvanni's literal trash. I like to imagine that the Telvanni are tapping the Empire's Dreamsleeve messages somehow to keep tabs on what's going on in the Elder Council. Seems like something they'd do.
@@colbyboucher6391 That's awesome
Some of the original concept art even showed a Telvanni wizard wearing this insane robe/furniture shell thing that seemed to lock them in a laying position while they moved via levitation, only exposing their arms.
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@@xa-12musk8 fargy 😩
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It’s so awesome to see another girl on the internet talking about the Elder Scrolls the way I do. Watching your content is so special as an ES girlie 🥺
We are many! ♥️
agreed! ❤
2024 is the year for the elder scrolls girlies 💕
Yes! ❤
There are dozens of us!
Calling it now, with this level of production quality... this channel gonna explode in size.
The passion put into these is just too strong!
Kingdom Come Deliverance has a similar layer system and it's awsome, clothes might not give armor points, but wearing nice clean clothes in good condition gives you extra charisma points to get better deals in shops and a better chance of persuading people
@@isaacjohnson4123 I've never seen anything like the alchemy system, and staring out as illiterate 👀
Morrowind does at least have significant benefits to layers if you're an enchanter. Being able to have separate enchantments on a robe, shirt, belt, amulet, pants, skirt, shoes, two different gloves, and two rings at the same time is *insanely* beneficial, which is prolly part of why theyve reduced outfit complexity over time.
The only other game I know of that allows even a bit of layering that I know of aside from KCD and Morrowind is Dragon's Dogma, which has "underclothes" layers for your pants and shirt. It's still pretty cool though, and I wish more games had this feature, as well as Morrowind's total breakdown of armor pieces, separating shoulders from arm pieces and left and right arm pieces.
I was just thinking this exactly when she said that in the video. Glad to see I'm not alone.
@@isaacjohnson4123 modern morrowind? nah
Wild to think that morrowind is older than some of the viewers
I’m only 2 years older than Morrowind 😅
@@Angelikatosh same, was weird discovering it when it was already 10 years old. Kinda like it's always been ancient
Damn... I bought this game on release with money I'd earned delivering newspapers when i was 14. Guess it's time to feel old 😅
I find myself struck by that kinda revelation too, but I think it mostly feels weird because vidja gaems are such a relatively new medium. Almost everyone enjoys at least some books, music, and movies from before they were born. It doesn't surprise me that kids today are still getting into Biggie Smalls and Nirvana, so it also makes sense they wanna check out Super Mario 64 and Doom. Last year, a 13-year-old was the first person to beat NES Tetris, released in 1989. I bet it's only a matter of time before someone born after 2001 wins a Smash Melee supermajor tournament.
@@Neuvost Agreed, that's a nice perspective. And honestly, it kind of warms my heart a bit to see a younger generation picking up these old classics. It's difficult to really convey how big of an impact a game like Morrowind made back then, it was like a tangible shift in the capabilities of the medium. If you played this game back then it felt like there was no going back now.
I don't mind feeling my age, mind you. I appreciate being old enough to have the feeling that I experienced some important video game history as it happened. I think my dad probably felt the same way when I started listening to Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and Black Sabbath as a teenager.
One thing I really like about Morrowind's clothing is how the different styles indicate not only different social classes, but different cultural backgrounds, as well. The more standard medieval-fantasy type stuff tends to be worn by non-Dunmer and people in very Imperialized towns, suggesting those outfits are influenced by fashion styles from Cyrodiil (and of course, the Colovian Fur Helm is explicitly Cyrodiilic - Colovia is the western half of Cyrodiil, so it's weird that we didn't see people wearing them in Oblivion). The Dunmer fashion tends to have a lot of loose fabrics that cover the entire body, and scarves that look like they could be quickly turned into a face-mask - sensible for fashion that arose in a land where dust and ash storms are a regular occurrence. And then, the native Ashland garments have a slightly rougher-hewn look to them, e.g. the Expensive Robe at 7:11, since the Ashlanders, due to their nomadic lifestyle, put plenty of care and effort into making clothes but lack the more advanced technology to get finer stitching, &c.
Personally, I really like the way the shirts look on female characters, and I'm glad they didn't make the model change to something more "feminine". But, I've always been a sucker for women in Elizabethan menswear.
I don't know if you've played Daggerfall, but I'd love to see a video in this style talking about the fashion in that game, too. It's got at _least_ as many options for fashion customization as Morrowind has, to the extent that playing dress-up in the inventory menu is one of my favorite passtimes in the game.
I always love it when worldbuilding extends into aspects like clothing because that's often where culture is literally visible.
One cool thing about Morrowind clothing is that NPCs react to what you wear. So if you wear a common shirt and pants they might tell you that you look like a stinky peasant, and when you wear very expensive clothes they might notice that you are doing well. I miss this a bit in Oblivion and Skyrim.
it happens a bit in skyrim. I remember a guard talking about my orcish armour
@@E-Bizzy As ugly as its creators, or something like that?
Does the bitter Solitude clothing store owner ever not to look down on the player's style? I know she's not impressed even by a legendary Daedric armor set with double enchantments and some daedric artefacts thrown on top of it. She still tells you to rethink your appearance before approaching the Blue Palace.
@@herrakaarme yeah it was something like that. I wish they put more effort into aspects like that. Having unique lines based on which armour or clothes you are wearing would make the world feel more alive.
@@E-Bizzy If computer generated voices replace human actors perhaps for all but the most important NPCs, I reckon we would get no end of different lines. It would be easy for the game studio to write even tens of thousands of lines since they wouldn't need to pay voice actors to record them. Who knows if we are quite there yet quality wise. Robot voice TH-cam videos can still be pretty jarring. But as long as every line has to be voiced by a human voice actor, there will be a hard limit in an open world game like Elder Scrolls with myriad NPCs.
RPGs where the NPCs actually react to the progress of the player are the best. I also loved that in M&B Warband where you slowly earn the begruding respect of the nobles and occassionally they'll bring up specific battles.
Seeing young people with such passion for Morrowind gives me hope for the future of RPGs.
Yes, we just need the normies go to a new media type that poison our wheel. I not all details, and collect one of each cloth types all around in all TES games, but people don't get it, i try to do the same in others games as well, and this is why i get soo mad when a outfit is dlc or something exclusive, just why put digital limitation where not need any? Come on, i loved how in runescape you wear what you use, soo, in normal activities i use a cosmetic in game look, but it get ripped apart when they add the cash shop, really bad move, i stop playing and paying for the game in that point
One thing that's really interesting about morrowind clothing is that there are a lot of items that are faction specific. It's harder to notice than rich clothing vs commoner clothing or dunmer fashion vs imperial fashion because the game never addresses it directly. But once you notice it, it becomes a really interesting detail that adds a lot to the worldbuilding and shows how much care they put into this game. Personally I only started noticing after messing with the additem console command, only to then corroborate that npcs were in fact wearing clothing acording to their factions.
Basically if you check the IDs of clothing items you'll notice a lot of them end in _a _b _c _d or _1 _2 _3, but then you'll notice there's _h _hh _r _rr _t _tt (this is the house clothing), and _a _e _u _z (for the ashlander tribes).
And so each house has two specific common shirts and robes and one extravagant robe and shirt (Redoran are easier to tell because they are all red) and some of them actually have the house emblems embroided. The commoners wearing them (almost all dunmer) are not necessarily memebers of the houses, sometimes they are just simply living on house territories such as Balmora or Vivec cantons. However house specific extravagant clothing is worn exclusively by house members. For example, the Hlaluu extravagant shirt is the golden one Dram Bero and Yngling Half-Troll are wearing, the Redoran extravagant clothing are the ones Athyn Sarethi and Mistress Brara Morvayn wear, and for the Telvanni ones look no further than Master Dratha's shirt and Master Aryon's robe (it's the same as the one you get from the falling wizard who was also a Telvanni member). And yes, other factions will entirely avoid all the house specific clothing. Like you won't find a single imperial guild, temple or cult memeber wearing any of the clothing mentioned above (at least I haven't found one so far).
For the Ashlanders each tribe has one of each common and expensive shirt and pants, with ashkhans and wise women usually wearing the expensive ones. Ashlanders witches, the Mabrigash, also have their own specific shirt and pants (expensive_01), and both witches and wise women share an exclusive expensive robe (a brown one with pale red patterns). And again you won't find a single tribe memeber wearing shirts and pants from another tribe or the Mabrigash and vice versa, however some will be wearing common clothing from the houses, which I don't know if it's an oversight or it's meant to indicate trade/theft/abduction/fugitives etc. Ashlander clothing in general is really interesting because you can see the raw materials used to make them, which are all elements ashlanders would have access to like furs, feathers, leather and bones, or in the case of the Ahemmusa who live in the Grazelands, grass.
Finally there's two more faction-specific clothing. The temple has a fairly noticeable one which is the cyan robe with golden stripes with daedric letters worn by high ranking members. I remember reading somewhere that the daedric writing can be read and it translates to Vivec sermons, which in turn explain the colors of the robe (Vivec himself and chimer/dunmer). The other is the Morag Tong which has an exclusive shirt and robe (the one Eno Hlaalu is wearing), both with blood red gems with daedric symbols inside. I don't quite remember but they said something about death in daedric, which is expected of Mephala fanclub.
i never knew that omfg??? i didn't think this game could get any cooler and more well-designed than i thought it is
The gloves being separated into left and right is something I like to imagine is because of the two different versions of Wraithguard you can obtain that are technically different Wraithguards, one for the left and one for the right, and then the team just shrugging and going "well why make one category for paired gloves and a separate category just for the Wraithguards" and going with it.
I have no idea how you can make a video about Morrowind clothing without mentioning Caius Cosades and his impeccable fashion sense! We need a follow-up!
I’d like to congratulate how well you’ve launched this channel, you’ve clearly either done a lot of research or have previous experience because this is expertly done, unique concept, well made thumbnails, even a catchphrase with the reading of the elder scrolls. Textbook example on how to launch a successful channel. Well done!
This is her second channel big dawg.
I still can't believe this channel exists. Keep up the good work.
I like when people look at these details since it's so hard to write them correctly.
Aye I really appreciate the love and appreciation you have for the small details! New favorite Elder Scrolls creator 🤙🤙🤙
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@jamesiron4010 Love people like you making it impossible to be a girl online! Thank you!
@@WoodEe-zq6qv ^^ given that it is gone now, I'd assume it wasn't an honest compliment. Please don't be creepy, it's not that hard!
@@WoodEe-zq6qv is there a reason why you bother with such a translucent mask. it's not like it actually _fools_ anyone, it just makes you look like a dumbass imitating something with zero understanding of it
which i mean, is accurate, sure. translucent masks, again, not remotely good at hiding anything
@@yveltalsea I thought you were talking to me for a second and I was like “but I was being genuine ;-;”
I came for the colovian fur helm and you did not let me down
_“Any time now…”_
You're gonna have a wild time with the clothing in daggerfall.
Refreshing to see overlooked details in these games being discussed
Congratulations on the 10,000 subs! you truly honour the sixth house & the tribe unmourned. Dagoth Ur would be proud.
Big fan of how the Ordinators are dressed. Honestly my favorite armor in the game and the clothes really add to it.
Something interesting to note about the Colovian Fur Helm! Sheogorath in Oblivion's Shivering Isles DLC refers to them as 'Arrowcatcher hats', referring back to TES3 Morrowind concept art which labels it as the "Colovian Arrow-Catcher". So there is at least one instance where someone calls them hats and refers to the style of hat, though it's classified as armor in the game. There's also some pointy fur-lined hats in Skyrim that remind me a bit of the arrowcatchers, but they're not kept up like a cone, and are worn more like a Santa hat.
Clothing in Skyrim 🙁
Clothing in Oblivion 😎
Clothing in Morrowind 🗿
Clothing in Daggerfall 😳
Clothing in Daggerfall: Men with pecs and V-Lines on display, women basically were walking around with exposed titties
Technically . . . ALL clothing is armor in Morrowind because Morrowind has the "Unarmored" skill that goes up when you take damage in clothing/wearing nothing, and adds to the defensive value of clothing as the skill goes up. Theoretically it's to represent the player dodging attacks, but it works the same as armor values of any other armor type in the game. This is of course, a skill I wish they'd bring back because it makes cloth options for wear much more viable, gameplay wise.
You have really started to open my mind to all the intricacies of these games.
Thank you Angelika.
Clothes are for us mortals, Lord Dagoth Ur is so powerful that he transcends the need for them!
My n'wah, you honour the tribe of the unmourned with this wordcraft
I think you're absolutely right about Zangarmarsh being inspired by morrowind - there was always some eerie familiarity I felt in Seyda Neen the first time I played that I couldn't explain! TBC is my favorite wow expansion and I hadn't played Morrowind until just a few years ago
I never knew how much importance I unconsciously put into my character being stylish until now.
Fargoth's simple casual attire is very good, his simplicity, that he under-dresses everybody else yet still looks cosy, is what I like the most.
Fargoth can afford the exquisite clothes, but chooses to forsake that for the exquisite drip instead
I think because he has the western clothes, and the imperials are just richer than dunmer so even their peasants dont generally look so poor. The vest shirt combos do look comfy.
I totally love your overview of the clothing in the game. You actually know what you're talking about and well-versed within the topic
I’m glad I’m not the only person that loves Morrowind’s common robes ❤
What a grand and intoxicating innocence
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Come nerevar
Friend or traitor, come.
what's super cool about the clothing in morrowind is that the common and expensive categories have 4-5 separate items specifically made for the ashlander tribes! like there's a letter at the end of the ID, either a, u, z, or e, to show which tribe it's meant for, plus I think one extra set in the expensive category. i just think it's awesome that they went that far into detailing what each tribe would wear and making separate outfits for each one, even if most players would never even notice that kind of detail ingame (i definitely didn't until a little bit ago and I thought I knew everything about morrowind, lol), really shows how hard morrowind went into worldbuilding
I would never have watched a video about clothing, but you throw in some Morrowind and I am very open to new topics. Excited to follow your work!
It's ironic how Colovian Fur Helm is a piece of Cyrodiilic fashion (Colovian Highlands is the northwestern part of Cyrodiil) and yet we see it in Morrowind and not Oblivion.
I love the mod which adds the city of Bruma to Skyrim for including an npc who's trying to bring l the colovian fur helm back into fashion
As a fellow fashion nerd in video games, this series has been so enjoyable to go through. And this upload came at the right time, because I’m about to finish the main quest for the first time. Thanks for the video!
You're videos are incredibly unique and different from what is usually posted. please keep up this content.
My favorite robe is that teal extravagant robe with the gold moons on it. It's just so gorgeous and I want it irl.
Oh god. I could probably make that.
I really enjoyed your oblivion video, so to see you posted another one just made me super happy!
Finally I found someone just as passionate about fashion as my characters are in game. I always collect a little all-occasions-wardrobe for every single one of them ^^
As a kid, one of my favorite things to do was to wear a partial set of armor under common robes and walk around like I was a commoner until combat happened. Absolutely zero benefit in game, but I liked the roleplay aspect of it. I really fell in love with the white robes you can get from the End of Times cult in Mournhold, too.
Random, but since you mentioned layering clothing in Morrowind and how it's almost unheard of nowadays, there is one other RPG I know of that does it. Kingdom Come Deliverance from 2018. The layers are mostly for armour but most slots can take certain types of clothing, especially the topmost and bottommost layers. So you can have a tunic, then a cotehardie on top, then a leather jerkin, then a waffenrock on top of all of it. You can even look through any baliff's equipment and see "Oh, they're wearing a steel chestplate under their big jacket" Which makes sense because it's low key, they could afford it, and they're expected to help guards keep the peace if someone gets too rowdy.
If you ever feel up to it, I'd love to see you make a video on KCD's clothing. I always really liked it.
the purple robe, and the starry pattern on the skirt model, even tho low res,it still has so much character and detail that makes me happy to look at.
my favorites too. looks great with steel armour
Great video thanks. Morrowind is my favorite Elder Scrolls game. Order I played was Oblivion, Skyrim, and Morrowind. I admit at first it was difficult to adjust to being so old, but after giving it a fair chance I soon forgot all about those things I thought were limitations. Morrowind is a masterpiece and so rewarding to play as you advance and grow stronger over time in the world. Incredible lore/story. The game was an absolute treat to experience.
honestly, Vvardenfell for fashion capital of Tamriel,
With Wraithguard being such an important artifact that’s just a single glove, I wonder if that’s the main reason you can equip gloves separately, and would they have added that functionality without it? Too bad they didn’t separate the shoes and let you run around mismatched in those, too
From technical standpoint, clothing by default have only right meshes. Left side uses mirrored versions. Shoes are the same and separating them wouldn;t add anything to creation/render complexity. Just design decision. Would be great for Sheogorath artifacts, forcing you to wear missmatched shoes.
I doubt it's the only reason, since pauldrons are separated also
The Redoran guard outfit is elevated so well by the skirt they wear over the bonemold greaves.
I love the clothing in Morrwind, It's such a huge miss not to keep the layering in the other games. Like in Skyrim for example, I always mod it so that you can wear circlets with hoods.
Thanks for making me curious about things I never noticed before!
I think the gloves are split L/R in Morrowind because there are magical gloves you can combine in different ways for specific situations.
I absolutely live for random dives into topics like this
Morrowind-style cozy-gaming is my kind of cozy-gaming :) Meaning: there is an active world-threat, you go tangle with smaller threats until you make it to the Big Bad(s), and you retreat to your cozy shack / Vivec-apartment / hidey-hole for some reading.... and yes, for me - shopping in Balmora at the clothier so I could get some fancy clothes & enchant them!
You seem very sincere, in your conversation, and rather well informed. You are right to have this growing fanbase, and I certainly expect to see this community you are creating grow over time ^^
Yes! The sequel we wanted! Great job. This channel is so neat. Keep up the great work.
I know you briefly touched upon it in the Oblivion clothing video, but please do the Shivering Isles clothing overview... To quote Peppermint from Drag Race on The Pit Stop, "It's fashion".
But is it fashion?
@@davidmathieson8661 _It's fashion_ (Laughs)
I feel like diving into this community with this topic and your perspective could be pretty challenging, I really admire your hard work here
Feel like I'm witnessing the early beginnings of a massive elder scrolls channel rn
Love this content. Elder Scrolls has been discussed to death (which I am very grateful for ofc) so finding fresh and interesting parts of the games to discuss can be hard and you absolutely knock it out of the park.
I think the gloves were probably split up by necessity because unlike boots, gauntlets can be applied to just one hand instead of being worn as a set. It's great both for visual customization and, like you said, enchanting. So because the item slots are separate it makes sense for gloves to be split up as well. Interestingly I think gloves are the only clothing slot that cannot be layered with armor!
Also, my favorite outfit combo: The character I play most often is mostly unarmored and dresses fairly simply so I go for black common pants and the red extravagant shirt, paired with a single heavy gauntlet and netch leather boots. I dress for fashion only, the rest of my build speaks for itself in combat lol
Colovian fur helm is the GOAT fashion accessory
I really loved your Oblivion video. Glad to see you continue to discuss this topic with other entries in the series and excited to see what you cover next.
Expand your clothing empire to the RPG Genre as a whole and you will get a mill subs EZ, incredible Niche idea with a lot of potential especially if you start making some of these outfits and wearing them in the videos cosplay style. I saw your amulet of kings and immediately found it and sent to a friend who bought one the same hour, so thanks for that!
Art direction, including amazing design of rural environments and clothing, really carry this game for me.
Yaaay! A new video on TES clothing!
que buen video angelica de los mejores elders scrolls el diseño de la ropa, las mecanicas, el roleo, el mapa , la historia cuando todd howard hacia bien las cosas
I don't know how much you've played of Morrowind, but NPCs will actually comment on your clothing, playing voice lines and saying stuff like "Those clothes suit you well, outlander."
Also:
Gah-Julan bonemold cuirass and L/R pauldrons, Native Chuzei bonemold helmet, bonemold L/R bracers, greaves, and boots + exquisite skirt, pants, and shirt is peak fashion. I can't remember if it's in the base game or if you need mods that let you wear gloves with bracers, but that's also the move.
It's also I think, the last game to have specific NPC comments for if the player is wandering around naked. With everyone telling you to put some clothes on if you're hanging out in your underwear (or in the buff with certain mods).
They still do that in Skyrim, and I feel like that was something in Oblivion as well, but I haven't played it since like 2012 so I cannot say definitively
I highly recommend looking into the main plot (probably after finishing the game first) because it explores some rather interesting concepts imo
You have very quickly become my favourite youtuber
I think the reason left/right gloves exist is because Sunder is a right-handed gauntlet and that might have rippled out into the greater game design. Or the other way around.
Wealth beyond measure, Outlander...
Maybe the division of gloves comes from the fact they wanted wraith guard to he a single item (if you forget the secret wraith guard)
You could layer clothing and armor in Daggerfall too, back in 96 when TES games were actually rpgs.
Yes, I'm old and hate the world.😊
Your writing and wit are top tier. I can tell a lot of effort went into this.
Yay 🎉
You bless us with this video ❤
Loving the clothing analysis as a lens into the culture of the games! The community talks so much about the lore, and this feels like an often overlooked aspect of the aesthetic and general vibe of each game.
Also noodle pants for noodle legs
I slightly worried about Angelika's eyes.. all that reading.. do tell if you find any interesting prophesies though
I'm so happy I discovered your channel! Every video you make is absolutely delightful! And as a fellow TES lover who's also a digital artist and who's hugely obsessed with complex worldbuilding up to the smallest details, I'm super glad I finally found a youtuber who talks specifically about clothing and crests designs! You are awesome!!!
Ah. Quality content.
Greatly appreciate you doing such an honor o the cosmetic side of my fav Elder Scrolls game. I always enjoyed all the clothing and armor choices you get.
We are here for fashion scrolls.
My favorite clothes for most playthroughs are the dark blue & gold expensive clothes. Shirt, pants, skirt, shoes, robe, gloves, it all looks good imo. When I play a mage character, if im a Dunmer, I wear the entire set lol.
damnnnn 14 comments in three minutes!? Noti gang really pulled up yo
we gotta support our tes queen! and this way we get to boost her content in the algorithm
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I just wanted to pop in and say that your channel has become one of my favorites. Having someone focus on the "little things" of the Elder Scrolls, world building, fashion etc. is wonderful. Loving your content both as a fan of Elder Scrolls and as a game master for tabletop rpgs who can steal ideas from your videos! So thank you!
12:20 that's right, cause shoes are for actual people and not farmtools 🗿🗿🗿
Damn, bro went there 🤣
YES another morning coffee video before work. A creature deep dive from your perspective would be cool as heck.
Be careful growing so fast, girl. Shit gets wild behind the scenes on this platform, don't get eaten up!
I’m not new to this, so don’t worry, I’ve fought mudcrabs more fearsome
Then may your Thu'um reach the from the Earthbones, to the light of Magnus.
((Reach out if you play Conan Exiles too, fr fr))
Absolutely fantastic video! Morrowind is my favorite game of all time, and the fashions in game was so detailed. I deeply miss the shining robes.
Unsubscribed, disliked and reported for not including the colovian fur hat
EDIT: Wait Nevermind, watched one second later. Subscribed, liked, and removed report
You don't know how happy it makes me to have discovered your channel. Just hearing other women talk about the Elder Scrolls universe that I care so much about makes me so so happy. Thank you, love you 🫶 (my first language is not English sorry if I express myself badly 😭)
It’s kind of nutty to me that a non-native-English-speaking model randomly launched a TH-cam channel about one of the nerdiest franchises in gaming talking specifically about minutiae that not even fans of said franchise would normally think about, and it’s almost immediately acquired an audience.
It’s a bit prejudiced of me to be surprised by this, but I hope it helps in normalizing the idea that girls, even traditionally attractive ones, like really nerdy things, too.
I love that you discuss all the little things that I always think about while playing these games, but nobody really discusses them!
i get distracted
Thank you so much for this video! Morrowind truly has the most unique clothing out of all the mainstream games. Having different gloves on each hand and wearing clothes on top of armour was such a fantastic feature
Men of culture we meet again
what a weird way to out yourself like a fucking loser objectifier
This one is for the girlies
That was fast! I see a lot of people begged for this after your Oblivion clothing video and you have delivered! Thank you Angelika!
are you a federal agent?
You know sometimes youtube throws something my way which I didn't expect, a breaking of clothing in Morrowind done in full seriousness? Fuck it I am here for it, awesome stuff.
Where can we see more of you?
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Naaahhhhhh lmao
Good observation on the familiarity of the clothing providing a comfort factor for the player.