Hell yeah, man. I went with the Red 9 and Riot Gun for my initial run's handgun and shotty, but now I'm trying out the Blacktail and Skull Shaker just to free up some room in the attache case for more ammo.
lol fuck no they weapon balancing is absolute dog water the only pistol worth using is the starter or DLC pistol because of the laser sight the riot shotgun is the absolute top tier best the killer7 is the best magnum because of the laser sight on and on and on for every weapon class the orginals weapon balancings was much better than this people still aruing over whether the blacktail or red9 is better.
@@Stone_Stronghold dogshit take. Now there's actual reasons to take other guns. If you can't compensate for bloom and need the laser to land your shots you just suck at shooters.
I used Striker out of old habit but other than the fire rate, large ammo capacity and less inventory space occupied, it doesn't really offer much. Another thing that made Striker a great choice in the original was that with the exclusive upgrade, you got freakin' 100x ammo for free. But in the Remake you don't get free clip filling with every ammo capacity upgrade anymore, so it doesn't even have that (nor Ditman) going anymore.
i like the design of the riot gun but i ran with the og shotgun for its exclusive ability to max out its range. being able to use it in the water room is very helpful. in the remake its gotta be the riot gun nothing else really made me as giddy as this gun.
The W-870 is my favorite. Great damage and the spread is perfect for me. Not too little or too much. I've had many times, where I've been rushed by an enemy and just barely missed with the Riot Gun, then get hit for it. With the W-870 that never happens because it's no so focused. I always use shotguns more defensively. The Riot Gun is more offensive with the tighter spread making it better at medium range or focused damage on a tougher enemy.
I mostly use shotguns as a "get tf out of my way" weapons when i try running through areas, so for me the striker is king in that regard. Its high fire rate and ammo capacity make it ideal for whipping out real quick to ground a few enemies and keep running
There's a fun little fact I'd like to give about shotguns, and it's something I discovered on my second day playing the game. Every shotgun in the game will always fire one pellet in the center of the reticle while aiming, meaning that there will always be one consistent pellet out of them that you can use to fire. This is actually a really amazing tool for something like the Riot Gun, which boasts incredible damage output and firing rate, since you'll actually be able to snipe most enemies at a range once you're fully upgraded. Yes, you can actually SNIPE with the shotguns in the game, and they actually have incredible range, too. Go and try it out whenever you can. It makes them nice guns to use.
man how the striker has fallen, my first run was using the same loadout i used in the original, Red9, Striker, Broken Butterfly and the Bolt Action and the striker was the only one that felt much weaker, even though the Red9 was nerfed as well it still hits like a truck and performs about as good as i remember
The lack of laser sight really hurts the broken butterfly. It’s so inaccurate now. Half the time it’ll miss the enemy weakpoint even at close range, and with magnum ammo being so scarce you really want to maximize damage. Killer 7 all the way.
Striker still works for exactly how I used it in OG RE4, as a way to create and maintain distance and eradicate shielded enemies, never really used it for dealing damage.
@@steaketc2476 Opinion, not fact. EACH of the shotguns are best in class for certain aspects, but some are terrible in others Example: The Striker isn't gonna hit from two rooms away, but always hits what's in front of you when quick fired, however the Riot gun tends to miss if used this way because it's made to hit two rooms away
@@ratso8193 but in the OG game when you upgraded ammo capacity it gave you a full mag for free so if you waited to upgrade till your weapons were empty you would get free ammo the old striker exclusive gave you a free 100 rounds
Another benefit of running the Striker maxed out is that it lets you dump all your ammo but also lets you slot in all your ammo too. Running stacks of shotgun ammo ruins inventory space for all the larger shotguns; however, like you said, the Skull Shaker alleviates all of the inventory space problems.
I agree -- I recently tried the skull shaker for the 1st time on my 6th playthrough and maxed it out. I effing love this thing. It's so powerful (headshot machine), and it's sooo effing compact. It's great with the cat ears. My fav shotgun by far.
The thing about Shotgun spread is that there are some situations where it's beneficial to have it wider. If you have a wide spread, that will allow you to hit multiple enemies from further away and you can make an argument that when it comes to fighting large enemies like El Gigante, the spread will help you hit weak points easier or just not be a detriment in any way because they are likely big enough to get blasted with the full spread regardless of how tight it is. In that case The Striker is excellent at just spraying down a crowd of dudes with it's ammo capacity, fire rate, and spread pattern. The Riot Gun is actually the worst shotgun for fighting a group of regular goons, contrary to it's namesake because it's spread is so tight, but it does have the best Single Target DPS and excellent Single Target Burst damage. The Skull Shaker is what I'd call "The Panic Button" because it's big damage per shot and wide spread will really bring the heat when you're surrounded if it doesn't outright delete every enemy in front of you, a good pick for the Cabin section with Luis. But the one I've been vibing with the most was the W-870 because it did the most damage per shot and felt like a great all-rounder, the spread is wide enough to hit 2 guys standing next to each other if you aim in between then, but tight enough to center on a guy to take pot shots if you're shooting from further away, plus it hits bosses and elites hard and is forgiving when firing at weak points or plagas headed enemies. I feel all the shotguns have a use-case dependent on your playstyle, and it's not about which is best, but rather which one you vibe with the most or what one rounds out your loadout the best. TLDR: all the shotguns are good and to each their own
Devs did an amazing job with balancing this game! Every single weapon is viable in their own way and there's no right or wrong. There's always something to cater to everyone's playstyle and more games should be doing that. 🙂
New subscriber here. I love how you also gave a little more insight on the weapons vs the original so that newcomers who never experienced the original game can get a sense how Capcom went and balanced the weapons for the Remake. Keep up the great content!
I know that its number is the highest one.. but in practice, way too often I'd get in an emergency and try to blast my way out, and.. they'd shrug it off. Despite that big number. Now, maybe I wasn't close enough. But the other shotguns would clear a path just fine regardless.
in the original, it wasn't just the ditman glitch that made the striker one of the best weapons to have, it was also the fact it took less space than the other 2 options and the fact the merchant would give you a free clip refill on every ammo capacity upgrade. by the time you upgrade to 100, it gets to the point you could allocate one slot to shotgun ammo and sell off the rest to make space for health and other ammo types instead and in the original there was no typewriter storage, things were either on leon or they weren't. Also as said in the video, long as any pellet hit the target it dealt the same damage.
I bought the riot gun as soon as it was avaialble and have been using it ever since except for those "I just wanna have fun and get through the game as fast and safe as possible" bonus weapons runs. It's a bit unfortunate that you can't use every gun equally well in every situation, but it's also a good thing in my opinion as it makes you choose your weapons more carefully in terms of what you wanna achieve with them. Do you wanna use them as a means to deal damage? Use Shotgun A. Do you wanna use them as a means of good damage, but from further away? Use Shotgun B. Do you wanna use them as a means of crowd conrol? Use Shotgun C.
If it had the big loop for the flip cocking it would be dead on other than that it is a perfect replica. I bought and built an 1887 replica it’s a lot of fun but pumps are better
I watched alot of re4 remake weapons most of them have different opinions but this game very balanced the guns so it up to you the players to find out what you like
Doing a run with Matilda right now and I can tell you this thing shreds boss like a TMP with stock on crack. The only downside is having too much fun and realizing you are running a bit low on the handgun ammo
The spread of the Riot Gun should be the baseline for more shotguns in gaming, the comical blunderbuss-like spread of so many shotguns in gaming has annoyed me for as long as I can remember.
The capacity is great on the striker as ammo drops depend on the ammo you have in your case. Meaning you have 48 rounds stocked up and the game still drops shotgun shells regularly. Makes the cqbr great as well.
The OG RE4 used to have THE one Shotgun that out-powered all others in almost every category, it was the DeFacto Shotgun, which was the Striker, so it was counterintuitive to get the lesser Shotgun, that made it so the other 2 Shotguns were useless for the most part, except if you wanted to play with their “Exclusive” upgrades which would still not render them as much useful as just a straight Striker throughout most of the playthroughs. Now with the remake, I found myself favoring the Riot Gun more so than the Striker, due to its longer range shots, but that doesn’t come with its concessions relative to the Striker, which it has much less bullet capacity & damage, this gives every weapon its own advantages/weaknesses. I like that so much about this remake.
Finished my first run with Striker for nostalgia sake. I found myself getting into close encounters a lot anyways, and boy did it ever crowd control entire rooms with a single shot. Also made stupidly short work of the boar headed enemies.
Nice comparisons. For me the best shotgun is riot gun. It helped me with pro s+. My load out was: Riot gun Sentinel 9 Killer 7 And the most op weapon The Sweeper lol
It was the skull shaker at first, but the W-870 wins it for me. The gun is the definition of simple but cool looking, and it reminds me so much of the Classic DOOM shotgun in both sound and feel.
I feel like each shotgun is good for different things The classic is just a single target powerhouse, peak ammo efficiency and decent space economy. You want big numbies, you pick that one The riot gun is more for taking out multiple dangerous targets quickly. It has great accuracy, fire rate and damage, but that accuracy also makes it the worst shotgun in the game for getting a horde of peasants off your ass. its also the biggest shotgun The striker is (excluding preorder weapons) the most compact of all the shotguns and holds the most ammo (to the point that the space its ammo would take up means it would be just as big as the other shotguns, which is a big plus for me since im a massive hoarder), but also does the least damage and has the worst spread. The thing is, that worst spread also makes it god tier for making space. Each blast won't do much damage and youll go through your ammo fast, but it hits so many people at once that in a second or two the whole village will be on their asses wondering if anyone got the plate for that truck that ran them over.
There is apparently a hidden benefit to capacity in that the game judges ammo drops based on the amount of spare ammo in your inventory, not counting what is loaded into your weapon. So the Striker's main benefit is being the most compact shotgun aside from the Skull Shaker while also holding a lot of ammo to try and influence the RNG to... drop more shotgun ammo. It's a weird overlap but apparently the design intent? I'm definitely a Riot Gun believer and the Skull Shaker is beyond stylish, but I would like to take the Striker on a run once.
Yeah the first time I used the Assault Rifle I got so much rifle ammo. Had a full 32 mag in no time. I guess it's a pretty good way to make the fast firing weapons more viable.
Exactly it's all about what you value in your shotguns plus the game gives you more ammo the less you have in the case aka 48 rounds in your shotgun means more shotgun ammo in general.
That's fine man.. I hate getting too powerful too quick. Part of the fun for me is the struggle.. I wanna be running for my life, surviving by eating this egg on the ground. I don't blasting fools away like some kinda hero!
It depends it's between the riot shot gun and the striker. If you're good with your shots and good at parrying the riot gun will not fail you. But if you're not familiar with the parrying system and you constantly find yourself getting swarmed the striker will do good for crowd controlling.
Shotguns are good for giving you some space, stunning stronger foes and finishing them off quickly. With the different shotguns you pretty much trade range for the ability to hit multiple opponents and knocking them down.
In Dead Island, shotguns were basically your super-weapons. In other games, that role would be played by a grenade launcher or rocket launcher. In Dead Island, shotguns trample upon everything! They're overkill for ordinary zombies and bandits. Best reserved for badasses, bosses, and minibosses. They were balanced with other guns by their limited reserve ammo.
I forced myself to use the riot gun and striker on different runs and the striker is so short ranged I basically only panic use it going to try to skullshaker, never considered the inventory space till now
This dude is a major clutch tbh I had a general idea of what weapons were the best apart from pistols. I wasted all my money on my first playthrough of hardcore I bought every new weapon sold the old one then had to resell the new one and rebuy the old one by the end of the game I had like 10k pestas
Great video. I personally like the Skull Shaker and Wooden 870. The Striker disappointed me in the remake. In the OG, it was similar but significantly more powerful , and you can't beat that 100 round drum. In the remake, it is a mere shadow of its former self. I bought it on my first playthrough and regretted it, sold it, and upgraded the Skull Shaker.
I was excited to get the Striker when I did my first playthrough and no lie went back to the Riot Gun before completing the game. The Riotgun just gets the job done for me in terms of shotguns.
Watched all your other re4 gun vids tonight! Great stuff! They all get kinda redundant(?) imo though haha. NOT YOUR VIDS, to clarify.The guns. Keep up the good vids! Ps. I friggin LOVED this game! This is the year of remakes/remastered! Dead Space, Metroid Prime, and now the best of em all RE4R! (aka REAR as i see how that looks lol)
I use the CQBR more than any weapon because of how broken it is. When fully upgraded, it can delete any normal enemy in one headshot, any mini boss in 3 seconds, and it can kill Salazar in less than half a clip if you hit his eye with every shot. You need to be really careful when using it though because you can shred all of your rifle ammo if you hold down the trigger for a bit, but that's no problem if you have cat ears or commit almost of your gunpowder/L resources to rifle ammo
Depends on your style of gameplay which shotgun is the best for you. It's meant to suppress a group of mobs Infront of you, and push them back in close quarters, and for this the striker is king, literally cutting them in half.
Ive done the test. The damage is the total of the pellets. You can really tell when you are up close trying to hit one guy then trying to hit several and not killing any of them but staggering them lol
should I switch the riot gun for the lever action one? I'm currently using the Red9, Stingray, Riot gun, Broken butterfly and space is kind of an issue. i have been considering switching the Red9 for Blacktail pistol.
Skull shaker would help you a lot with the inventory issue but the whole point is to pick something that will suit you best. Everyone plays differently so I showcase the options that are available and point out the pros and cons. 🙂
Striker, as mentioned in the video is NOWHERE near as good in the OG. I personally use shotguns as a crowd control rather than to just obliterate a target. It really has helped me in Novestador room and in island tbh because you get swarmed so easily 😂
You know, something that's great about this remake is the ability to store weapons. It gives you so much more flexibility when it comes to choosing your kit. I've been doing replays of Standard and trying out different guns in different situations, and I'm leaning towards the Riot Gun for my general purpose shotgun, but I've found that the Striker absolutely mulches Krauser. I didn't have much luck trying to knife him like in the original, but once you get a stun in on him the Striker's incredible capacity and rate of fire pumps out huge damage in very short order. The wide spread isn't a hindrance since Krauser is basically always in your face anyway. I'm still refining my technique of course, so I'm open to better or more efficient strategies.
There's really no bad options in the game. Everything is viable and has it's pro's and con's. It all just depends on what YOU want. Personally I would recommend the Skull Shaker (if you have it) or the Riot Gun. Both are just my personal favorites out of the situations i find myself in. 🙂
I will say the striker has some real benefits on a first playthrough where you might not have the funds to get all the exclusive upgrades. It has the highest standard damage output of the shotguns and I would say you shouldn't treat it like the other shotguns. I basically only use it for extreme crowd control where the spread can tag 3-5 enemies. It's also a great Krauser killer. Last use I have for it is shredding the first regenerators(before you get the special scope) to stagger reveal their weak spots.
Using that against Krauser was amazing just getting 6 point blank shots into him was fun, but yeah I use it for crowd control to the point where I get a bunch of enemies to come after me in a straight line and just unload
I was doing 2 different playthroughs side by side, since I wanted to use different guns and the Skull Shaker is easily the worst gun to run in a NG setting since it's worse then W-870 or Riot Guns until you get past the hedge maze and unlock all the upgrades. The low damage and high spread cause it to eat up a ton of ammo during the early game and starves out your other weapons to keep crafting shotgun rounds to feed it
I consider the wide spread of the Striker to be a perk, not a flaw. I have rifles and magnums for damage, a handgun for exploiting weakpoints and standard enemies, and an SMG for continuous damage against a single target. What I want from my shotgun is _crowd control._ If I'm trapped in close quarters with multiple enemies, every other gun can only shoot one target at once, no matter the rate of fire. A shotgun with a wide spread can stagger half a dozen foes with every pull of the trigger, giving you critical seconds to escape or counterattack. (In the original, this was especially prevalent during the "wrecking ball" segment of the Island section).
I wish the W870 had the same tight spread as the Riot Gun. It's easily the best looking shotgun (RE4 Riot Gun looked good, remake Riot Gun looks awful). I hate being forced to use Riot Gun because it's objectively the best for maximum damage (all pellets hitting target).
Spread on the Strikers make it better for Crowd Control. If you're getting Swarmed, there's a good chance you can use it to stagger just about everyone in front of you with a shot or two. Riots better for doing Strong damage on single target, as well as letting you play safe from the target since you get a little more range.
I use striker only because the riot literally makes it pointless to carry another gun sometimes especially in a cat ears playthrough you dont need any other weapon.
W870 hands down the most well rounded shotgun in the game, reliable and it is also the most powerful one and also one of the cheapest to upgrade. However, i still think that everyone of them has some uses that are specific to some situations. Overall, they are all balanced.
Much as changed since the original lol! Also, you're right, you didn't need ANY other weapon nor grenade, (rarely any health), including none of unlockables if you had the striker on hand.
The Riot Gun was actually very good in the OG, too - my top favorite. It's just that the Striker was very decent for the smaller size in addition to the speed bug.
DUDE i just noticed. Everybody, hit "examine" on the Riot Gun. You can see it has a ghost load! The ghost load is done, generally in the USMC, by: loading a full tube, DROP a shell into the elevator tray, and while the bolt is pulled to the rear, chamber a shell by hand. But do not pull the bolt all the way back.
I think the skull shaker is the best. 19 damage max with the upgrade ticket and 6 Shots with a ridiculous spread and it’s way smaller so less space taken ip
Honestly didn't get much use out of the shotguns in any of my playthroughs until I had the cat ears for my professional without bonus weapons run so I could get the handcannon, before that in all my playthroughs I was really stingy with the shotgun and rifle ammo, always saving them for when I actually NEEDED them, I mean it made the bosses really easy since I always had the best ammo for them (although I always bought a rocket launcher for verdugo). I preferred the standard shotgun you get in the village, I mean it had the best damage, and frankly the spread wasn't a problem because I always use the shotgun at extreme close range.
The way I did was yes the W-870 is the most powerful however it takes up the most inventory space. I use the Skullshaker. It takes the lest amount of inventory space. Yes it's not as powerful but once you get the clip, reload speed & fire rate upgraded you're pumping out 2 or 3 blasts in the time it takes the others to fire once. The shotgun is only good for one reason & that's crowd control when u r surrounded.
with the pellet thing it is based off pellets if u have the mod that lets u see enemy hp if u only have half the cross hair over the enemy and fire it will do half damage
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They did an amazing job of balancing this game compared to the og, nearly all the pistols, shotguns and rifles are viable for different reasons
Hell yeah, man. I went with the Red 9 and Riot Gun for my initial run's handgun and shotty, but now I'm trying out the Blacktail and Skull Shaker just to free up some room in the attache case for more ammo.
lol fuck no they weapon balancing is absolute dog water the only pistol worth using is the starter or DLC pistol because of the laser sight the riot shotgun is the absolute top tier best the killer7 is the best magnum because of the laser sight on and on and on for every weapon class the orginals weapon balancings was much better than this people still aruing over whether the blacktail or red9 is better.
@@Stone_Stronghold utter nonsense, went through the whole game and destroyed with the blacktail, get good.
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@@Stone_Stronghold dogshit take. Now there's actual reasons to take other guns. If you can't compensate for bloom and need the laser to land your shots you just suck at shooters.
Riot Gun... never leave home without it. Its range is unmatched and I cannot give it up.
amen brother
What do you need range on a shotgun for 💀
@@umbreonhidden1174 so you can kill things from further away. Was that a real question?
Riot gun is actually a bit overrated. With the tight spread, ur hitting far less enemies than with a wider spread which hits multiple.
@@5ean5ean22 you want the most of the pellets to hit the target the further the worse. Was that really your thought process?
I used Striker out of old habit but other than the fire rate, large ammo capacity and less inventory space occupied, it doesn't really offer much. Another thing that made Striker a great choice in the original was that with the exclusive upgrade, you got freakin' 100x ammo for free. But in the Remake you don't get free clip filling with every ammo capacity upgrade anymore, so it doesn't even have that (nor Ditman) going anymore.
Lol if ditman was active then it would be the most picked gun 😂
@@JellyJman you can get a charm that increases your movement speed
@@merc2469 yeah I know, I didn’t get it at all my first run 😭😭😭
@@JellyJman that makes 2 of us😭
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Ever since the original game, all of my playthroughs were with the riot gun. i used it in my first remake playthrough and it never disappoints.
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i like the design of the riot gun but i ran with the og shotgun for its exclusive ability to max out its range. being able to use it in the water room is very helpful.
in the remake its gotta be the riot gun nothing else really made me as giddy as this gun.
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Riot Gun's spread and speed really helped at later stages of the game. I melted a couple bosses with it.
Skull shaker is awesome after every shot that alone makes it cool
Ikr riot or striker the better choice maybe but the skull shaker just brings those terminator 2 vibes.. lever action shotgun like waaa 😮
That riot gun tho is fire but skull shaker I would take that over striker anyday.
Skull shaker just for the fire rate and re load speed as it has the 2nd most dmg output in the shotgun list of being small and fast
Such a cool weapon! 🙂
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The W-870 is my favorite. Great damage and the spread is perfect for me. Not too little or too much. I've had many times, where I've been rushed by an enemy and just barely missed with the Riot Gun, then get hit for it. With the W-870 that never happens because it's no so focused.
I always use shotguns more defensively. The Riot Gun is more offensive with the tighter spread making it better at medium range or focused damage on a tougher enemy.
I mostly use shotguns as a "get tf out of my way" weapons when i try running through areas, so for me the striker is king in that regard. Its high fire rate and ammo capacity make it ideal for whipping out real quick to ground a few enemies and keep running
Highly recommend the skullshaker for this. Can reload the whole mag in one shell and it pumps damage and saves so much space
@@bigchungus7050 I'll give it a go on my next playthrough
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@@robwesker 😂🤣 point blank with the striker is everything bruh 😂👌
Riot gun is best
Absolutely
@Cwavy_619 best range and great damage
Straight facts! Due to rate of fire and and the 1.5x bonus it pays out most dps..
Best looking too
Idk why but I didn’t like the riot gun in this game, the spread on it is so wide and I never needed the 15 rounds that it can have.
There's a fun little fact I'd like to give about shotguns, and it's something I discovered on my second day playing the game. Every shotgun in the game will always fire one pellet in the center of the reticle while aiming, meaning that there will always be one consistent pellet out of them that you can use to fire.
This is actually a really amazing tool for something like the Riot Gun, which boasts incredible damage output and firing rate, since you'll actually be able to snipe most enemies at a range once you're fully upgraded. Yes, you can actually SNIPE with the shotguns in the game, and they actually have incredible range, too. Go and try it out whenever you can. It makes them nice guns to use.
man how the striker has fallen, my first run was using the same loadout i used in the original, Red9, Striker, Broken Butterfly and the Bolt Action and the striker was the only one that felt much weaker, even though the Red9 was nerfed as well it still hits like a truck and performs about as good as i remember
Yeah red9 went from best gun to good gun
@@JellyJmanRegular handgun had the x5 critical rate wich is more useful than pure potency.
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The lack of laser sight really hurts the broken butterfly. It’s so inaccurate now. Half the time it’ll miss the enemy weakpoint even at close range, and with magnum ammo being so scarce you really want to maximize damage. Killer 7 all the way.
The fact that they made it Semi-Auto (as the actual Benelli M4 should be) is what made me love it even more.
It’s modeled after the beneli m3 which is both semi auto and pump.
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Striker still works for exactly how I used it in OG RE4, as a way to create and maintain distance and eradicate shielded enemies, never really used it for dealing damage.
Ay same here i really only use shotguns to stagger and keeps enemies away its helpful for crowd control
Now that i think i never actually used the striker for anything other than Ditman. Id usually have dozens of shells just taking up inventory space.
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well yeah its a shotgun id hope it do that lmao that doesnt change the fact its the worst shotgun in the remake
@@steaketc2476 Opinion, not fact.
EACH of the shotguns are best in class for certain aspects, but some are terrible in others
Example: The Striker isn't gonna hit from two rooms away, but always hits what's in front of you when quick fired, however the Riot gun tends to miss if used this way because it's made to hit two rooms away
Head shots with the riot gun feel so amazing, but I love mowing everything down with the striker it never gets old.
I love getting up close and personal so the striker is still a go-to to me.
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Thank you for making a real video with real presentation not just text and stats alone.
I'm surprised you don't have millions of views on this!
Since they got rid of the ammo capacity upgrade trick, there's even less of a reason to get the striker. Riot gun all the way as always
But its pretty good for crowd control since it hit everyone and does way more damage in my opinion while riot gun more of focus target type
If you max it out the game will give you a large amount of shotgun shells to make up for it.
@@ratso8193 but in the OG game when you upgraded ammo capacity it gave you a full mag for free so if you waited to upgrade till your weapons were empty you would get free ammo the old striker exclusive gave you a free 100 rounds
That is 1 of 2 complaints I have about the remake (the other being the removal of "kicking open doors")
@@kotobakana because its slowing you down? Why you prefer kicking door instead of opening it instanly?
The striker is actually just as space efficient as the skull shaker when you consider it includes three stacks of ammo when maxed.
Yoooooooo, that’s true too! 😮
True, this is just something people have to consider for when they want to pick something that's right for them. 🙂
Straight to the point, great vid dude, good work.
Excellent job demonstrating all the shotguns.
Helpful to know the stats, the perks, and the spread of each shot.
Another benefit of running the Striker maxed out is that it lets you dump all your ammo but also lets you slot in all your ammo too. Running stacks of shotgun ammo ruins inventory space for all the larger shotguns; however, like you said, the Skull Shaker alleviates all of the inventory space problems.
I agree -- I recently tried the skull shaker for the 1st time on my 6th playthrough and maxed it out. I effing love this thing. It's so powerful (headshot machine), and it's sooo effing compact. It's great with the cat ears. My fav shotgun by far.
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Just wanna say I like your format for videos. No long intros, just straight into the info. 👍
The thing about Shotgun spread is that there are some situations where it's beneficial to have it wider. If you have a wide spread, that will allow you to hit multiple enemies from further away and you can make an argument that when it comes to fighting large enemies like El Gigante, the spread will help you hit weak points easier or just not be a detriment in any way because they are likely big enough to get blasted with the full spread regardless of how tight it is. In that case The Striker is excellent at just spraying down a crowd of dudes with it's ammo capacity, fire rate, and spread pattern. The Riot Gun is actually the worst shotgun for fighting a group of regular goons, contrary to it's namesake because it's spread is so tight, but it does have the best Single Target DPS and excellent Single Target Burst damage. The Skull Shaker is what I'd call "The Panic Button" because it's big damage per shot and wide spread will really bring the heat when you're surrounded if it doesn't outright delete every enemy in front of you, a good pick for the Cabin section with Luis. But the one I've been vibing with the most was the W-870 because it did the most damage per shot and felt like a great all-rounder, the spread is wide enough to hit 2 guys standing next to each other if you aim in between then, but tight enough to center on a guy to take pot shots if you're shooting from further away, plus it hits bosses and elites hard and is forgiving when firing at weak points or plagas headed enemies. I feel all the shotguns have a use-case dependent on your playstyle, and it's not about which is best, but rather which one you vibe with the most or what one rounds out your loadout the best. TLDR: all the shotguns are good and to each their own
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Devs did an amazing job with balancing this game! Every single weapon is viable in their own way and there's no right or wrong. There's always something to cater to everyone's playstyle and more games should be doing that. 🙂
What made the Striker amazing in the orginal, when you upgrade it, you are given 100 rounds for free, enough to go through the rest of the game 🤣
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Yeah, the removal of free ammo when upgrading was pretty disappointing considering they expect you to do speedruns to unlock everything.
New subscriber here. I love how you also gave a little more insight on the weapons vs the original so that newcomers who never experienced the original game can get a sense how Capcom went and balanced the weapons for the Remake. Keep up the great content!
Skull Shaker is incredible and I love using it. But anyone else think the W-870 is actually very underrated?
It’s actually not underrated at all, it does the most damage at max level
Both are solid options! 🙂
@@JellyJman yet few people use it
@@JellyJman That doesn’t make it not underrated, it’s just the fact that no one uses it late game or in New Game Plus.
I know that its number is the highest one.. but in practice, way too often I'd get in an emergency and try to blast my way out, and.. they'd shrug it off. Despite that big number.
Now, maybe I wasn't close enough. But the other shotguns would clear a path just fine regardless.
in the original, it wasn't just the ditman glitch that made the striker one of the best weapons to have, it was also the fact it took less space than the other 2 options and the fact the merchant would give you a free clip refill on every ammo capacity upgrade. by the time you upgrade to 100, it gets to the point you could allocate one slot to shotgun ammo and sell off the rest to make space for health and other ammo types instead and in the original there was no typewriter storage, things were either on leon or they weren't. Also as said in the video, long as any pellet hit the target it dealt the same damage.
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I bought the riot gun as soon as it was avaialble and have been using it ever since except for those "I just wanna have fun and get through the game as fast and safe as possible" bonus weapons runs.
It's a bit unfortunate that you can't use every gun equally well in every situation, but it's also a good thing in my opinion as it makes you choose your weapons more carefully in terms of what you wanna achieve with them.
Do you wanna use them as a means to deal damage? Use Shotgun A.
Do you wanna use them as a means of good damage, but from further away? Use Shotgun B.
Do you wanna use them as a means of crowd conrol? Use Shotgun C.
That's the magic of balancing weapons.
I just wish there was more revolvers or the red-9 having a faster fire rate or accuracy.
the animation on the skull shaker is amazing. isn’t it the Terminator 2 shotgun?
Yup, basically.
Yup, cut down Winchester 1887 lever action shotgun
Fun fact Arnold almost broke his hand doing that. Be awesome if they added a Bonnie and Clyde special as a dlc.
If it had the big loop for the flip cocking it would be dead on other than that it is a perfect replica. I bought and built an 1887 replica it’s a lot of fun but pumps are better
@@teuflhunden the chicago typewriter is the closest we’ll get to a weapon they’d use
The Riot Gun in OG was a pump action like the W-870. In Remake it’s a semi-auto.
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It looks to be modeled after the Benelli M3, which is actually a dual action shotgun. It's both semi-auto and pump action. Interesting gun lol
I watched alot of re4 remake weapons most of them have different opinions but this game very balanced the guns so it up to you the players to find out what you like
Damn the Skull shaker looks nasty kinda like the full power Matilda from the last video lmao. Thanks for all the useful insight & tips!!
Doing a run with Matilda right now and I can tell you this thing shreds boss like a TMP with stock on crack. The only downside is having too much fun and realizing you are running a bit low on the handgun ammo
The spread of the Riot Gun should be the baseline for more shotguns in gaming, the comical blunderbuss-like spread of so many shotguns in gaming has annoyed me for as long as I can remember.
Blunderbuss 😂😂
I haven't heard that since school 🤣
Riot gun has it all:
tight spread
amazing damage
reliable fire-rate
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It absolutely *shreds* the armor Plagas
I can’t tell how satisfying it was on my first playthrough having a fully upgraded skull shaker and one cycling Ramon
thanks for these vids I really love the content!
Glad you like them!
Waiting for the other weapons great stuff mate ❤
Ty Ty, you're too kind! ❤
The capacity is great on the striker as ammo drops depend on the ammo you have in your case. Meaning you have 48 rounds stocked up and the game still drops shotgun shells regularly. Makes the cqbr great as well.
Once I got the Riot gun it's the only shotgun I've carried in my inventory. It's the best in my opinion.
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Striker works great for me even with bosses. Easy to get multiple shots in at the right time.
Riot gun for range and boss fights, striker for close encounters
The OG RE4 used to have THE one Shotgun that out-powered all others in almost every category, it was the DeFacto Shotgun, which was the Striker, so it was counterintuitive to get the lesser Shotgun, that made it so the other 2 Shotguns were useless for the most part, except if you wanted to play with their “Exclusive” upgrades which would still not render them as much useful as just a straight Striker throughout most of the playthroughs.
Now with the remake, I found myself favoring the Riot Gun more so than the Striker, due to its longer range shots, but that doesn’t come with its concessions relative to the Striker, which it has much less bullet capacity & damage, this gives every weapon its own advantages/weaknesses. I like that so much about this remake.
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Finished my first run with Striker for nostalgia sake. I found myself getting into close encounters a lot anyways, and boy did it ever crowd control entire rooms with a single shot. Also made stupidly short work of the boar headed enemies.
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I still love the Striker, but Riot gun is a beast, without question.
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Nice comparisons.
For me the best shotgun is riot gun.
It helped me with pro s+.
My load out was:
Riot gun
Sentinel 9
Killer 7
And the most op weapon The Sweeper lol
It was the skull shaker at first, but the W-870 wins it for me. The gun is the definition of simple but cool looking, and it reminds me so much of the Classic DOOM shotgun in both sound and feel.
I feel like each shotgun is good for different things
The classic is just a single target powerhouse, peak ammo efficiency and decent space economy. You want big numbies, you pick that one
The riot gun is more for taking out multiple dangerous targets quickly. It has great accuracy, fire rate and damage, but that accuracy also makes it the worst shotgun in the game for getting a horde of peasants off your ass. its also the biggest shotgun
The striker is (excluding preorder weapons) the most compact of all the shotguns and holds the most ammo (to the point that the space its ammo would take up means it would be just as big as the other shotguns, which is a big plus for me since im a massive hoarder), but also does the least damage and has the worst spread. The thing is, that worst spread also makes it god tier for making space. Each blast won't do much damage and youll go through your ammo fast, but it hits so many people at once that in a second or two the whole village will be on their asses wondering if anyone got the plate for that truck that ran them over.
There is apparently a hidden benefit to capacity in that the game judges ammo drops based on the amount of spare ammo in your inventory, not counting what is loaded into your weapon. So the Striker's main benefit is being the most compact shotgun aside from the Skull Shaker while also holding a lot of ammo to try and influence the RNG to... drop more shotgun ammo. It's a weird overlap but apparently the design intent?
I'm definitely a Riot Gun believer and the Skull Shaker is beyond stylish, but I would like to take the Striker on a run once.
Yeah the first time I used the Assault Rifle I got so much rifle ammo. Had a full 32 mag in no time. I guess it's a pretty good way to make the fast firing weapons more viable.
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Striker is still crazy good. You can mow through brutes in seconds with no issue due to the fire rate and damage.
Riot gun was my favorite in the og and love with what they did to it in the remake. The M4 benelli in general is my favorite shotgun design
Riot gun's tight spread makes it like a discount magnum. And that's a good thing
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I'm tempted to drop $2 for that 1887
I like the striker because it holds so many shotgun shells and keeps my inventory freed up
I honestly see the striker as more of a group stagger type shotty because of its intense spread
Exactly it's all about what you value in your shotguns plus the game gives you more ammo the less you have in the case aka 48 rounds in your shotgun means more shotgun ammo in general.
Problem with the Skullshaker is it needs the final perk to shine.
Whats the final perk?
@@LordFarquaad_ X2 damage
That's fine man.. I hate getting too powerful too quick. Part of the fun for me is the struggle.. I wanna be running for my life, surviving by eating this egg on the ground.
I don't blasting fools away like some kinda hero!
It depends it's between the riot shot gun and the striker. If you're good with your shots and good at parrying the riot gun will not fail you. But if you're not familiar with the parrying system and you constantly find yourself getting swarmed the striker will do good for crowd controlling.
Both are good options 🙂
Shotguns are good for giving you some space, stunning stronger foes and finishing them off quickly.
With the different shotguns you pretty much trade range for the ability to hit multiple opponents and knocking them down.
In Dead Island, shotguns were basically your super-weapons. In other games, that role would be played by a grenade launcher or rocket launcher. In Dead Island, shotguns trample upon everything! They're overkill for ordinary zombies and bandits. Best reserved for badasses, bosses, and minibosses. They were balanced with other guns by their limited reserve ammo.
The skull shaker is my fav shotgun... love the action with you fire it just like in Terminator 2
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I forced myself to use the riot gun and striker on different runs and the striker is so short ranged I basically only panic use it going to try to skullshaker, never considered the inventory space till now
Just something to think about. 🙂
This dude is a major clutch tbh I had a general idea of what weapons were the best apart from pistols. I wasted all my money on my first playthrough of hardcore I bought every new weapon sold the old one then had to resell the new one and rebuy the old one by the end of the game I had like 10k pestas
you are the RE4R lord god
Great video. I personally like the Skull Shaker and Wooden 870. The Striker disappointed me in the remake. In the OG, it was similar but significantly more powerful , and you can't beat that 100 round drum. In the remake, it is a mere shadow of its former self. I bought it on my first playthrough and regretted it, sold it, and upgraded the Skull Shaker.
That is a beautifully organized inventory
I was excited to get the Striker when I did my first playthrough and no lie went back to the Riot Gun before completing the game. The Riotgun just gets the job done for me in terms of shotguns.
I was rocking all 3 shotty but this video made me switched to Skull Shaker. And oh boy, am I decimating every enemies with this.. even Final Boss 😂
Watched all your other re4 gun vids tonight! Great stuff! They all get kinda redundant(?) imo though haha. NOT YOUR VIDS, to clarify.The guns. Keep up the good vids!
Ps. I friggin LOVED this game! This is the year of remakes/remastered! Dead Space, Metroid Prime, and now the best of em all RE4R! (aka REAR as i see how that looks lol)
I use the CQBR more than any weapon because of how broken it is. When fully upgraded, it can delete any normal enemy in one headshot, any mini boss in 3 seconds, and it can kill Salazar in less than half a clip if you hit his eye with every shot. You need to be really careful when using it though because you can shred all of your rifle ammo if you hold down the trigger for a bit, but that's no problem if you have cat ears or commit almost of your gunpowder/L resources to rifle ammo
Depends on your style of gameplay which shotgun is the best for you. It's meant to suppress a group of mobs Infront of you, and push them back in close quarters, and for this the striker is king, literally cutting them in half.
Ive done the test. The damage is the total of the pellets. You can really tell when you are up close trying to hit one guy then trying to hit several and not killing any of them but staggering them lol
should I switch the riot gun for the lever action one? I'm currently using the Red9, Stingray, Riot gun, Broken butterfly and space is kind of an issue. i have been considering switching the Red9 for Blacktail pistol.
Skull shaker would help you a lot with the inventory issue but the whole point is to pick something that will suit you best. Everyone plays differently so I showcase the options that are available and point out the pros and cons. 🙂
I ran the skull shaker because of the small inventory space lol I got to use every ammo type in my first playthrough
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Striker, as mentioned in the video is NOWHERE near as good in the OG. I personally use shotguns as a crowd control rather than to just obliterate a target. It really has helped me in Novestador room and in island tbh because you get swarmed so easily 😂
Great video
Stryker/Drum fed gets my vote. Fires fast and does superb dog as long as you are point blank as you should be.
The dlc shotgun is not bad either
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You know, something that's great about this remake is the ability to store weapons. It gives you so much more flexibility when it comes to choosing your kit.
I've been doing replays of Standard and trying out different guns in different situations, and I'm leaning towards the Riot Gun for my general purpose shotgun, but I've found that the Striker absolutely mulches Krauser. I didn't have much luck trying to knife him like in the original, but once you get a stun in on him the Striker's incredible capacity and rate of fire pumps out huge damage in very short order. The wide spread isn't a hindrance since Krauser is basically always in your face anyway.
I'm still refining my technique of course, so I'm open to better or more efficient strategies.
There's really no bad options in the game. Everything is viable and has it's pro's and con's. It all just depends on what YOU want. Personally I would recommend the Skull Shaker (if you have it) or the Riot Gun. Both are just my personal favorites out of the situations i find myself in. 🙂
Despite the nerf on the striker. I still love the gun. To shotguns are strictly crowed control
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Wow With the riot Shotgun I was Too close to Enemies I didn't know I could be a little further away that's great news
Yea, it's got the best spread for longer range. 🙂
I think the Skull Shaker is my favourite and the Striker was my favourite in the original game
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Striker, because it is the best doing the main role of a shotgun: hitting hard several enemies at close range.
Nah the skull and the w780 do that better lol.
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man i love your vids
I will say the striker has some real benefits on a first playthrough where you might not have the funds to get all the exclusive upgrades. It has the highest standard damage output of the shotguns and I would say you shouldn't treat it like the other shotguns. I basically only use it for extreme crowd control where the spread can tag 3-5 enemies. It's also a great Krauser killer. Last use I have for it is shredding the first regenerators(before you get the special scope) to stagger reveal their weak spots.
Using that against Krauser was amazing just getting 6 point blank shots into him was fun, but yeah I use it for crowd control to the point where I get a bunch of enemies to come after me in a straight line and just unload
I was doing 2 different playthroughs side by side, since I wanted to use different guns and the Skull Shaker is easily the worst gun to run in a NG setting since it's worse then W-870 or Riot Guns until you get past the hedge maze and unlock all the upgrades. The low damage and high spread cause it to eat up a ton of ammo during the early game and starves out your other weapons to keep crafting shotgun rounds to feed it
agree, i think Skull Shaker is not for damage output but only for defening in close range melee attackers.
I consider the wide spread of the Striker to be a perk, not a flaw. I have rifles and magnums for damage, a handgun for exploiting weakpoints and standard enemies, and an SMG for continuous damage against a single target. What I want from my shotgun is _crowd control._ If I'm trapped in close quarters with multiple enemies, every other gun can only shoot one target at once, no matter the rate of fire. A shotgun with a wide spread can stagger half a dozen foes with every pull of the trigger, giving you critical seconds to escape or counterattack. (In the original, this was especially prevalent during the "wrecking ball" segment of the Island section).
I mainly use the Riot, but after looking at this, I’m gonna try the Skull Shaker!
It's really fun! 🙂
I wish the W870 had the same tight spread as the Riot Gun. It's easily the best looking shotgun (RE4 Riot Gun looked good, remake Riot Gun looks awful). I hate being forced to use Riot Gun because it's objectively the best for maximum damage (all pellets hitting target).
I always run Silver Ghost, Riot Gun and Bolt Action
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Do all the rest of the guns too
Spread on the Strikers make it better for Crowd Control. If you're getting Swarmed, there's a good chance you can use it to stagger just about everyone in front of you with a shot or two. Riots better for doing Strong damage on single target, as well as letting you play safe from the target since you get a little more range.
I use striker only because the riot literally makes it pointless to carry another gun sometimes especially in a cat ears playthrough you dont need any other weapon.
The thing is how often do you get swarmed and use a shotgun? I rather use a flash
@@JellyJman playstyles differ person to person, idk the striker chops people in half at the waste if they are close enough so I go for that
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W870 hands down the most well rounded shotgun in the game, reliable and it is also the most powerful one and also one of the cheapest to upgrade. However, i still think that everyone of them has some uses that are specific to some situations. Overall, they are all balanced.
Agreed, the devs did a great job with balancing this game on how all the guns are viable and caters to everyones playstyle. 🙂
Much as changed since the original lol! Also, you're right, you didn't need ANY other weapon nor grenade, (rarely any health), including none of unlockables if you had the striker on hand.
Good ol RE4 OG. 😂
The Riot Gun was actually very good in the OG, too - my top favorite. It's just that the Striker was very decent for the smaller size in addition to the speed bug.
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DUDE i just noticed. Everybody, hit "examine" on the Riot Gun. You can see it has a ghost load!
The ghost load is done, generally in the USMC, by: loading a full tube, DROP a shell into the elevator tray, and while the bolt is pulled to the rear, chamber a shell by hand. But do not pull the bolt all the way back.
I like the striker because it doesnt take up as much space as the riot gun and with all of that ammo youll never run out
I think the skull shaker is the best. 19 damage max with the upgrade ticket and 6 Shots with a ridiculous spread and it’s way smaller so less space taken ip
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I can not listen to any person talking about a shotgun without hearing Bill Burr saying " You need a shotgun, It's got a good spread"
Honestly didn't get much use out of the shotguns in any of my playthroughs until I had the cat ears for my professional without bonus weapons run so I could get the handcannon, before that in all my playthroughs I was really stingy with the shotgun and rifle ammo, always saving them for when I actually NEEDED them, I mean it made the bosses really easy since I always had the best ammo for them (although I always bought a rocket launcher for verdugo). I preferred the standard shotgun you get in the village, I mean it had the best damage, and frankly the spread wasn't a problem because I always use the shotgun at extreme close range.
Had to store my bolt thrower but i keep everything else strapped on me haha
The way I did was yes the W-870 is the most powerful however it takes up the most inventory space. I use the Skullshaker. It takes the lest amount of inventory space. Yes it's not as powerful but once you get the clip, reload speed & fire rate upgraded you're pumping out 2 or 3 blasts in the time it takes the others to fire once. The shotgun is only good for one reason & that's crowd control when u r surrounded.
imma need that rifle list baller
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with the pellet thing it is based off pellets if u have the mod that lets u see enemy hp if u only have half the cross hair over the enemy and fire it will do half damage