Ep.6 What is the Sinosphere? - China China China

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  • @ucchu8236
    @ucchu8236 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thesedays, some Vietnamese people often insist that they do not belong to sinosphere, I feel this is nothing to be ashamed of. Although Vietnam's geography may belong to Southeast Asia, most Vnmese are still proud of Greater East Asia culture.

  • @angkhoanguyen8
    @angkhoanguyen8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Sinosphere cultures also say our [Family Name] [Given Name] in that order, as opposed to Westerners who say [First Name] [Last Name]

    • @faustinuskaryadi6610
      @faustinuskaryadi6610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      And also don't forget chopstick culture.
      Only Vietnam and Chinese descents use chopstick as regular cutlery in South East Asia. Other 9 use bare hand as their traditional way to eat rice.

    • @shirleyxia9988
      @shirleyxia9988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      One society puts family before self while the other puts self before family.

    • @cyrusiithegreat2824
      @cyrusiithegreat2824 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@faustinuskaryadi6610 Vietnam also using Folk.

    • @PRIYA-pv5hl
      @PRIYA-pv5hl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😭

    • @mitismee
      @mitismee ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cyrusiithegreat2824 what's folk?

  • @haims7056
    @haims7056 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Vietnam truly belongs to sino-sphere culture although it's located in south east asia. For those who still do not know well about its thousand years history and culture, please DO MORE RESEARCH before saying anything...

    • @trinh1807
      @trinh1807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thể hiện như vậy có ý nghĩa gì?

    • @cudanmang_theog
      @cudanmang_theog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fuck sinosphere=ccpsphere

    • @yuliusjrt9917
      @yuliusjrt9917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@cudanmang_theog what even, cpc have nothing to do with the sinosphere, if you can’t accept history that’s on you

    • @cudanmang_theog
      @cudanmang_theog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@yuliusjrt9917 no one trust CCP's version of "history"

    • @yuliusjrt9917
      @yuliusjrt9917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@cudanmang_theog Talking to ppl like u is like banging your head against the door

  • @femboysandtomboysplsdmme3458
    @femboysandtomboysplsdmme3458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    When I am thinking of east Asia I think first comes China, Vietnam, Japan, Korea

    • @nos8141
      @nos8141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      That is basically east Asia lol. Some also include Mongolia

    • @yin6287
      @yin6287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Though Vietnam is geographically part of Southeast Asia they're still culturally East Asia because their similarities with the Chinese culture.

    • @cudanmang_theog
      @cudanmang_theog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chinese troll

    • @cudanmang_theog
      @cudanmang_theog 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Lương Hà sinosphere copied and stole everything from Vietsphere.

    • @ucvinhnguyenlai2755
      @ucvinhnguyenlai2755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Lương Hà quá sure luôn bạn , dân tộc Kinh có trước cả bọn Hoa Hạ chúng nó lang thang từ phía Bắc xuống xúc mất 1 phần đất Trên Quảng Đông ,Tây của mình xong mình phải di cư dần xuống phía Nam . Nói thẳng ra là mình có trước nó

  • @mangnanyong623
    @mangnanyong623 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I believe those saying vietnam is not in sinosphere didn't even watch this video. The prefix sino might feel uncomfortable, but it only depicts cultural and linguistic influence of China. It does not deny each culture's own beauty. Some people prefer East Asian Cultural Sphere to sinosphere, but I think its improper too as it is not geographical concept.

    • @nos8141
      @nos8141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I am Japanese. I have no problem with this term......I do not see anything shameful for the influence of chinese civilization in ancient time. Should be proud of our cultures. Some people just wants to argue anything

    • @yin6287
      @yin6287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yep gotta agree on this one.

    • @cudanmang_theog
      @cudanmang_theog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Cultural and linguistic? Fake and lie! Nomadic Chinese could only grow wheat and drink horse milk because they were Mongolians. Without Champa (Vietnam) rice, no so-called "Chinese culture" would exist. 50% of Chinese vocabulary were borrowed from Tibeto Burmese, Austroasiatic Mon Khmer Viet and Austronesian languages of Southeast Asia. Stop your han chuavinist propaganda

    • @cudanmang_theog
      @cudanmang_theog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nos8141 chinese troll

    • @thfkmnIII
      @thfkmnIII 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@cudanmang_theog bro the Chinese are one of the most sedentary ppl. Their original clothing was a robe/dress (not good for riding horses) and their language has nothing to do with the nomadic ppls. If anything, the Korean and Japanese language has more in common with the nomads than the Chinese.

  • @nikitang6661
    @nikitang6661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    In Vietnam, people often wear masks mainly to prevent dust

  • @armchairwarrior963
    @armchairwarrior963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    My god the people who think Vietnamese don't belong in the same space as China, Korea, Japan. Literally The Founder of Nam Viet was Qin dynasty official. He call himself emperor of Nam Viet or Nanyue. The name of Vietnam comes from that.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanyue

    • @huuduyvu9714
      @huuduyvu9714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nah, mythical founders of Vietnam are Hung kings of Van Lang tribal state, and first verified dynasty ever in Vietnamese history is dated back around 200-100BC - Au Lac kingdom led by King An Duong Vuong.

    • @SamuelNguyenHoangViet
      @SamuelNguyenHoangViet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@huuduyvu9714 You said it yourself "mythical".

    • @huuduyvu9714
      @huuduyvu9714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SamuelNguyenHoangViet I wrote An Duong Vuong was the first verified Vietnamese king, and clearly his reign existed before Nanyue had taken over Au Lac. Read it again yourself.

    • @tantainguyen4290
      @tantainguyen4290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Vietnamese history existed wayyy before that. If anything, China is more influenced by VietNam than the other way around. Vietnamese people are decendants of Yue people or (Bach Viet) who are also the ancestors of modern day Cantonese. Han Chinese were decendants of babarians originated from the north. So in reality saying Vietnam originated from China is like saying you are the son of your uncle or saying that the English originated from Roman

    • @Marc-.
      @Marc-. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@huuduyvu9714 An Dương Vương
      安陽王 is originally from Sichuan, that’s literally China

  • @MYHONESTREACTION400
    @MYHONESTREACTION400 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There's also a genetic bond between the Sinosphere countries, all of them (except Vietnam) are mainly descendants of the neolithic Yellow River farmers

    • @cudanmang_theog
      @cudanmang_theog 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Shang dynasty was black Kemetic Bantu not mongoloid

    • @profile1565
      @profile1565 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cudanmang_theogahahahahhahaha we wuz chinese

  • @changeamlas7674
    @changeamlas7674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    People in the sinosphere are willing to wear facemasks because they used facemasks long before covid 19 to help prevent viruses. and also since the covid was in china they were even more likely to wear facemasks.

    • @changeamlas7674
      @changeamlas7674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Lương Hà I don't know why, i think westerners just think it is normal to not wear face masks, so they do not wear it.

    • @cudanmang_theog
      @cudanmang_theog ปีที่แล้ว

      250 million covid cases within one month and one million deaths, the CCP stopped reporting it, Ccp officials also stopped wearing masks. So that's "Sinosphere mask culture" a political schemer

  • @Nicky-gb7hj
    @Nicky-gb7hj 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thousands of years ago, the first Vietnamese State was located in Guangxi and Guangdong in today's China. Then the Vietnamese people migrated to today's Hanoi. While in Hanoi, the Chinese had colonized Vietnam for 1000 years. Therefore, we can easily understand that Vietnamese culture is a culture that belongs to East Asia even though its geography belongs to Southeast Asia. And many Vietnamese people also have faces similar to southern Chinese people. Just like the culture of Australians and New Zealanders belongs to British culture even though it is located in Oceania and not Europe 👍

    • @刘卫皇-v2j
      @刘卫皇-v2j 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They were dai ppl,not viet😅

  • @mitismee
    @mitismee ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Low birth rate is a problem, lack of younger generation will result in less innovation in the future ( something we clearly see in Japan ) . Vietnam currently is in perfect position lots of young population and company around the world start or already leaving China to open factory/offices in Vietnam, expecting the country to have a higher Jump in Gdp for next 3 decade. Japan is already peaked in 1990, now they are declining in population and economic. No wonder why Japan and Korea are so heavily invested in Vietnam these days, they see the potential from the young population of Vietnam and they can earn profit through them, i swear every few year i come back to Vietnam iwas surprised to see the change in scenery, the cities doesn't stay the same for like decades it's just keep changing and changing since Vietnam is in a similar phase of China (1980-2000)

  • @RobertRiRelaxing.
    @RobertRiRelaxing. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For the Facemask issue, In my opinion : it's because the people in these countries like the concealment & secrecy during their history & culture

  • @PederWyn
    @PederWyn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is very informative as I learn about the history of the Sinosphere. Thank you for stating the commonalities in culture, food, architecture, clothing, etc.

  • @nos8141
    @nos8141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Everyone here turned the entire topic to political issues....
    Embarras.sing

    • @KimPhabulous12
      @KimPhabulous12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Since I've been interested in learning more about my roots, all I've seen is infighting amongst the Sinosphere countries. It's disappointing and sad to see.

    • @LjubisaIvanovic-h7n
      @LjubisaIvanovic-h7n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Chinese communist totalitarianism has nothing to do with Sinosphere culture. That's ashamed for those who denied their ancestry

  • @vuquangminh6482
    @vuquangminh6482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Some extreme anti-china said Vietnam is not belonging to Sinosphere and they got confuse between culture and geography
    And they not talk about Singapore :v

    • @DonghuaGameCG3D
      @DonghuaGameCG3D 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because Singapore has tried to dilute the impression of Chinese culture with English and other Western cultures, Vietnam has also been de-sinicized, relatively speaking, more radical than the de-sinicization of South Korea and Japan
      Of course, Japan also tried to de-sinicize 200 years ago, learning a lot of western clothing, etc., to replace the original influence of Chinese culture, but less than 50 years, they took back the part that was influenced by China, and After the revision, it was called "Japanese culture",

    • @DonghuaGameCG3D
      @DonghuaGameCG3D 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Japan's use of the Western calendar to celebrate the Chinese Festival is one of the remaining influences

    • @DonghuaGameCG3D
      @DonghuaGameCG3D 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The scope of influence of these cultural circles is always changing with the rise and decline of the main culture.
      In the past, Chinese culture declined due to the development of the West, and neighboring countries abandoned it and switched to the embrace of the West. Even some Chinese people chose Western culture.
      And when the main culture of China re-emerged, neighboring countries began to move closer to China, constantly digging out the parts of themselves similar to Chinese culture. Even if it was the part that they took the initiative to de-sinicize, now they pick it up again and put it on for themselves.
      And whether Vietnam and Singapore belong to the Chinese cultural circle, it depends on whether these two countries re-recognize the proportion of the Chinese culture in them? Is there enough to be recognized by countries related to the Chinese cultural circle?

    • @vuquangminh6482
      @vuquangminh6482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DonghuaGameCG3D Uhm.... You dont need to write 3 long comment to explain
      I just making a joke
      I know most of Singapore are chinese so obviously they have East Asian culture

  • @shivanikaushik1269
    @shivanikaushik1269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow...I had some idea but you gave a proper term and definition...thanks!

  • @spellonyou7987
    @spellonyou7987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Commonwealth of east Asia ? I never seen group ethnicities who are basically belong to same race yet they are hating each other as much as east Asians. Maybe another centuries with new generation but for now it seems hard to happen.

  • @Alonoda
    @Alonoda 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pretty sure karaoke made it to other places on earth as well. Anyway great video

  • @thatvietguyonline
    @thatvietguyonline 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    eventhough Thailand is a part of Indosphere but Thai language was influenced quite a lot by Southern Chinese Langueges many vocabulary are similar to Cantonese, Teochew, Tai-Kradai branch.

  • @imronsobikha2462
    @imronsobikha2462 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think Indonesian also Have sinosphere and indosphere at the same time, because we also got influenced by Southern han chinese from early 1400s

    • @bantaocute
      @bantaocute ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, in my opinion, there must be at least a few Southeast Asian countries that have the same influence.

  • @kbkim6497
    @kbkim6497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Most fragmented region because the legacy of contemporary history still remains strong in this region. China is communist in politics but its economy is basically free market. Korea is still divided in halves as Communism vs Democracy. Imperialism is still alive in Japan enraging its neighbors.

    • @faustinuskaryadi6610
      @faustinuskaryadi6610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I rather to say Communism vs Capitalism than Communism vs Democracy because capitalism isn't synonymous with democracy. Also, being Communist country doesn't mean they are not Democratic at all. Democracy is actually antonym of Absolute Monarch, not antonym of Communism.

    • @kbkim6497
      @kbkim6497 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@faustinuskaryadi6610 1. private ownership is limited in communism. So communism is basically anti-capitalism.
      2. You are absolutely right. Democracy is antonym for Absolute monarchy. But I also think that too much power is given to single party or person in communism countries. Which leads them to become an Absolute monarchy-like nations. Look at north-korea, cuba, venezuela, libya. They are(were) nations ruled by a single leader. So in a way, democracy can be seen as anti-commusism.

  • @mitismee
    @mitismee ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The face mask part i can understand that Vietnam and China has high level of pollution so face mask does help , but even though japan and Korea has much clear air stil has facemask this is because i think it's make them feel more confident, because once you wear facemask you feel like you can walk around without worry about People that seeing your face . But anyway facemask only wear while you are in the street walking but once indoor facemask are taken off. Everytime im in Vietnam i do have the urgeto wear fcaemask because its does block dust and others off your face also block the sun sort of ...

  • @Trucnguyen-yf1ii
    @Trucnguyen-yf1ii 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    lý do việt nam chối bỏ ko dám nhận những ảnh hưởng của china với việt nam vì lo sợ china sẽ thôn tính vn như hồi xưa ( vì Vn đã bị thống nhất với china cả 1000 năm ) . như cách china đang chuẩn bị thu hồi hồng kong , taiwan ... , mặc dù hiện tại sẽ khó đánh chiếm việt nam nhưng ko biết tương lai Mỹ không còn bá chủ thì china sẽ dòm ngó tới việt nam . vì địa lý việt nam rất tốt nên đã có rất nhiều nước muốn có như pháp , nhật, mỹ từng xâm lược nhưng ko thành

  • @raphlvlogs271
    @raphlvlogs271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Japan eventually evolved to become quite fundamentally different from the rest of the Sinosphere

    • @xiaoyulin4008
      @xiaoyulin4008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      yeah, it want itself to be looked as a western country...but...quite embarresing to be honest...

    • @StudywithRiley
      @StudywithRiley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@xiaoyulin4008 Im not japanese but embarassing how? In the sense that in the modern world they became the most successful and forward thinking country in the 1900's? Dont be rude. You say this with confidence like Chinese government doesn't have their Uyghur population in concentration camps in 2022 lol

    • @linderoes7832
      @linderoes7832 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StudywithRiley brainwashed by western media.It’s embarrassing for an Asian country feeling honored to resemble white country

    • @Tremoloist
      @Tremoloist ปีที่แล้ว

      It has been for a long time

    • @tinanag0
      @tinanag0 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i'm Japanese and I can confirm that Japan belongs to the Sinosphere, and people are OK with it.
      Although many Japanese don't love today's communist government, there is no doubt we admire China of its ancient times and its rich culture.
      Chinese restaurants are everywhere in Japan, and people consider Chinese cuisine as the best in the world but for Japanese Washoku.
      Kanji (or Chinese characters) is deeply rooted in Japanese language, education and thus society.
      Knowing many kanji equals having rich vocabulary, and even proves your intelligence.
      Majority were strongly against eliminating kanji from Japanese when SCAP tried to as a postwar reform, insisting that kanji was an integral part of its culture (unlike other nations in Sinosphere).
      It's true that imperial Japan was obsessed to Western civilization and just threw away its traditional values to mimic Westerners (and copied the idea of invading Asia).
      But you can think this way; Japan loves "the Developed."
      As backward islands in Far East, Japanese may have a complex towards the developed civilizations and were eager to copy and mimic "the Developed."
      In ancient times, it was China.
      In modern times it just changed to the West.
      In this way, admiring ancient China and the West (and hating today's China) at the same time stand together.
      And I believe this explains the contradicting-looking typical mindsets of Japanese people.

  • @raphlvlogs271
    @raphlvlogs271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the problems of low birth rates combined with single child families, is detrimental to sustainability and cultural development.

  • @uknrfc
    @uknrfc ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If China gives freedom and complete independence to Uyghur, Tibet, Taiwan and stop invasion of South China Sea and Senkaku Islands, we East Asian can be friend and form one kind of common community like Europe.

    • @youwu6714
      @youwu6714 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      希望美国人可以回到他们的老家,这样就可以世界和平

    • @uknrfc
      @uknrfc ปีที่แล้ว

      @@youwu6714China must also respect each individual’s human right and abolish bribe.

    • @Marc-.
      @Marc-. ปีที่แล้ว

      Filthy j aps

    • @myhugeairpot
      @myhugeairpot 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      作为一个中国人,我很想认识其他东亚的朋友,我也期望中国可以走向民主化的道路,并且和东亚其他国家组成联盟。但是目前的情况是中国即使完成了民主化,美国也不会停止打压中国,就向他们曾经在九十年代对日本和苏联做的那样,根本原因是中国威胁到了美国的地位,中国还需要继续发展下去,不能分裂开❤

    • @刘卫皇-v2j
      @刘卫皇-v2j 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why don't you Japanese give independents to ainus and ryukyu? they aren't a part of Japan

  • @TiểuHải-r1z
    @TiểuHải-r1z ปีที่แล้ว

    Người Việt Nam là một dân tộc riêng biệt do bị trung quốc đô hộ 1000 năm nên văn hoá trở nên bị ảnh hưởng

  • @maivu8665
    @maivu8665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok

  • @elmcompanylimited5818
    @elmcompanylimited5818 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Vietnam is not included in Sinosphere... Vietnam is a country in South and East Asia with main culture factors: - Ancient linked culture: mother gods worship; ancient folk like Chầu Văn; local gods worship like Son Tinh, Thanh Giong, Hung Vương; Buddhism (90% people imply belief of Buddhism but actively as non-religion); Community (village and commune) powers is dominated prior national laws; Family culture and structure harmony and close between family head: grandparents, parents with children and grandchildren, all people sitting on floor for meal and party (Zhao Tuo was criticized by Han messenger because of practicing this habit of Viet people, Han people thought that is habit of barbarian); Vietnamese people marry based male and female love, Chinese people marry based on family position, arrangement and money (today Chinese female almost marry by wealthy and Dowry); Vietnamese people live mingle with nature, Chinese people live far nature: Vietnamese people build house in center of garden, Chinese make garden surrounded by houses; Vietnamese society is not base on job position for classifying respectfulness: high level workers and their subordinates only respect each other via job roles in working relations and only inside specific jobs, other than that, Vietnamese people respect each other fair for all and respect people higher/lower base on ages, managers/leaders eat and drink together in same table with subordinates (Chinese is not); Vietnamese nowadays follow Vietnamese style socialism, developing traditional folk (which no linking to Chinese culture), absorbing scientific advanced culture from all about mankind (not China)... Chinese people feel uncomfortable with Vietnamese when they think Vietnamese belonging to Sinosphere, because they think Vietnamese people are inferior, in contrast, Vietnamese people also feel unpleasant when people think they are similar or having Chinese culture and for Vietnamese, Chinese are only poor racist people. Vietnamese people were used to be influenced by some factors from Chinese culture but limited in Confucius and Han/Non Scripts, but those were terminated 150 years ago, no one study and practice that outdate values.
    Sinosphere culture was died so long, so that you mentioning about it that is mentioning about a fossil of cultures because Korean abandoned Han Script many century , Japanese has follow western culture about 150 years; Korean and Japanese have no longer maintain and develop culture such calling as Sinospere culture. Chinese communist killed Chinese traditional culture for about 70 years with: making culture revolution killing old Chinese culture, Changing scripts (they even tried to Romanized their writing system but failed), they brake Confucius value to ground like Chinese young female today seeking marrying for money and life after married served by husbands without working constraints (Three subordinations and four virtues were thrown into dustbin).

  • @aisiteruhoney9522
    @aisiteruhoney9522 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You forget mongolia ,,,,, mongolia also sinosphere

    • @onggiataola6164
      @onggiataola6164 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Địa lí thì đông á thôi còn văn hoá không nhé , họ không dùng chữ hán

  • @truongduc2784
    @truongduc2784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Singapore is not sino phere. Right ?

    • @lilaoyang
      @lilaoyang  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      In my opinion, yes. Generally speaking, Singapore is a Chinese society, with Chinese cultural traditions.

    • @truongduc2784
      @truongduc2784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lilaoyang you are able to right. I think that Singapore should be another china country than a sino phere because Singapore is so far away from mainland china and it jus is new nation.

    • @faustinuskaryadi6610
      @faustinuskaryadi6610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lilaoyang still we should know about Singapore demographic. Tamil Indian and Native Singaporean Malay there aren't culturally part of Sinosphere and their percentage in Singapore are higher than Champa in Vietnam. So, Singapore as Sinosphere country can be debateable.

    • @zhiqianwen
      @zhiqianwen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't think so, Singapore wasn't even a country when Sinophere was a thing.

    • @socoollafunnyvideo
      @socoollafunnyvideo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lilaoyang Wtf. When was singappre ever in the Sinosphere? Singapore is a multiracial nation that comprises with three ethnicities. Sure chinese re the majority but the thing is that Singapore is extremely diffrent from these 🇨🇳🇯🇵🇻🇳🇰🇷🇰🇵🇹🇼🇭🇰🇲🇴 places. We have a diverse mix of cultures here. Just come and see before you say anything. LKY, the founder of singapore even stated very clearly, Singapore is not chinese, malay or indian, singapore is a multiracial country. The next time get your facts right.

  • @jingzhi2898
    @jingzhi2898 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The northern part of Vietnam has long belonged to the Han cultural circle, while the southern part is less

    • @bantaocute
      @bantaocute ปีที่แล้ว

      but I see that most of the south is now Hanized. I mean, not quite but mostly. maybe it's because there are more Hoa person living in the south?

    • @khanhhung8959
      @khanhhung8959 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@bantaocute In general you can barely see the difference between the northener and southerner until you know them very well since many peoples may denies the difference due to the political stuff.

    • @footdrama8936
      @footdrama8936 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      South Vietnam is not Vietnam's original land: it is stolen land. We stole it from Cambodia. So, South Vietnam does not represent Vietnamese people accordingly and any Vietnamese person who lives in that region is an East Asian living in Cambodian territory.
      Vietnamese people belong in cool climate - not jungles. We descended from a big part of current day South China and North Vietnam - cold areas. Places like Guangzhou used to be occupied by Vietnamese people since this is where we come from, but sadly China, a hyperexpansionist nation, took it from us.
      Vietnam have always been East Asian. Racially, facially, culturally, historically and geographically, Vietnam, along with its original land, is East Asian. Vietnam has nothing in common with 🇹🇭🇲🇲🇰🇭🇱🇦 or 🇵🇭🇮🇩🇲🇾🇸🇬 - this is a fact.
      Unfortunately, the government is doing everything they can to conceal the truth regarding Vietnam.

    • @bantaocute
      @bantaocute ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@footdrama8936 Yeah, your points are quite right. In fact, Vietnam has successfully invaded the ancient kingdom of Champa in the past.And then you know that there was a genocide by ancient Vietnamese kings on the Cham Pa people and as a result, most of the Cham people died, the rest had to flee to other Southest Asia countries.

    • @bantaocute
      @bantaocute ปีที่แล้ว

      @@khanhhung8959 So China also like that. You can see a bit different between Southern and Northen of China. Besides that, China also has a ethnic diversity.

  • @AK-sq5nc
    @AK-sq5nc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thailand is indosphere+sinosphere=sindosphere

    • @AK-sq5nc
      @AK-sq5nc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True india china mixed

    • @saul_5726
      @saul_5726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ???Thai looked like Indian culture

    • @AK-sq5nc
      @AK-sq5nc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saul_5726 yes

    • @angphuocai6844
      @angphuocai6844 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      thailand look like india never sinosphere

    • @princeedward5518
      @princeedward5518 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@angphuocai6844 but the language is more chinese

  • @khanhphan6287
    @khanhphan6287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You pronounce vietnamese traditional clothes wrong it’s áo dài (ao-yai) and the picture you’ve given wasn’t even áo dài lol

    • @lilaoyang
      @lilaoyang  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for correcting me.t

    • @Crunchycrunkybro
      @Crunchycrunkybro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      He actually didn't pronounce it wrong, but he used the wrong dress as the Vietnamese clothing. Before the áo dài, there was the áo giao lĩnh which was the cross collar dress. It was the Vietnamese traditional clothing until the Nguyễn Dynasty brought clothing reforms and made the áo dài. After the áo dài was created, people stopped wearing áo giao lĩnh and it eventually became obsolete. Soo he is kind of half wrong, but yes the current traditional dress of Vietnam is the áo dài and not the áo giao lĩnh. I hope this helps with why he said that.

    • @tttvbshnbd
      @tttvbshnbd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bạn nghĩ 2000 năm trước người Việt mặc áo dài à =))) Bạn nên tìm hiểu lại nền cổ phục nước nhà trước khi cmt đi.

    • @khanhphan6287
      @khanhphan6287 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tttvbshnbd ủa thì ngta giới thiệu trang phục truyền thống thì giới thiệu áo dài chứ nói mấy cái áo kia ngta tưởng là áo dài không phải trang phục truyền thống của nước mình

    • @tttvbshnbd
      @tttvbshnbd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Trang phục truyền thống của Việt Nam không chỉ có mỗi áo dài. Là do bạn không rõ nên khi người ta đang nói về giao lĩnh, bạn mới vào chỉnh lại thành áo dài trong khi chủ vid có nói sai đâu.

  • @blackthanhhoa9879
    @blackthanhhoa9879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    viêtnam korea

    • @jennifera4222
      @jennifera4222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Most Koreans discriminate and look down on Vietnamese.

    • @jennifera4222
      @jennifera4222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Avocado Gunhoo Lol, yes! Why do I think that ? Please think ! I don't stereotype anyone bc of their race or what they look like. I judge ppl from my experiences with them. Most of the Koreans I've come across do look down & disrespect Vietnamese here in the U.S. e.g. when I showed up for my aptm @ Korean facial shop, I said I have an appointment at 11, the Korean owner woman immediately yelled at me loudly in Korean which was very disrespectful, mean & unnecessary. My previous Korean neighbors always say something nasty in Korean every time I walk my dogs passing their house even when I was nice and say hello how are you. Another ex, every time I nicely say hello to the Korean owners at Asian grocery, they always respond with nasty looks (so weird). Thus, I never shop there again. Another ex, I was waiting at car repair shop and a Korean man who came in gave me very nasty unfriendly look the whole 3.5 hours I was waiting. I could keep on and on with more horrible experiences I've had with Koreans but I don't have all day. Koreans travel to VN bc it's cheap and convenient for them since the VN Gov't made it easy for them. But even with my horrible experiences with Koreans I still don't hate Koreans, I just know how they can be based from my experiences. I think it's fair and I have every right to based from my experiences. And there's many other Asians who didn't have good experiences with Koreans too. They also say Koreans discriminate them. But I still watch some Korean youtubers sometimes and try to learn about Korean culture. Anyways peace ✌.

    • @kimurahundoshi4485
      @kimurahundoshi4485 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jennifera4222 this is why vietnam is poor third world country
      I think you have a lot of stereotype
      so... only japanese and korean looks like nice people for we european sorry
      there is never pickpocket like your country

    • @saul_5726
      @saul_5726 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jennifera4222 Korean copy list:
      Sushi: Gimbap
      Karate : taekwondo
      Aikido: hapkido
      Kendo : Kumdo
      Honda:hyundai ............... countless more Korean is copy cat

  • @cudanmang_theog
    @cudanmang_theog 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Free occupied Champa free occupied Montagnards lands

  • @AR-bh3mn
    @AR-bh3mn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where about Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand and the Philippines!?
    I think the Indoosphere is not suitable now, because India, Bangla and Pakistan are included in the Caucasoid (Indo-European Nation)

    • @jinpingxi9891
      @jinpingxi9891 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indonesia,Malaysia,Thailand,campudia , Laos are indosphere 100%

    • @tjph.me.qjnm9038
      @tjph.me.qjnm9038 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No baby

    • @jasonsan6708
      @jasonsan6708 ปีที่แล้ว

      Philippines is only partially part of sinosphere but I think indosphere is more strong 💪🏼 maybe even Islamic sphere

    • @dontcare-l211
      @dontcare-l211 ปีที่แล้ว

      nope.

    • @tsoyuku1396
      @tsoyuku1396 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All other countries in South East Asia except Vietnam are belong to Indosphere.

  • @jt-vj4sl
    @jt-vj4sl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The reason the rest of countries in East Asia is suspicious of China is China has had a bad habit of interfering or invading these countries (especially Vietnam) whenever she had a chance. Talk about good neighbor and close relative. To quote a western proverb: “with friend like that, who needs enemy”.
    One should look at other aspects of society besides cultural, language, architecture before thinking East Asian political integration ever happens.
    China being a largest country in the region always has big influence, especially economics. She therefore always cast a big shadow over others. She has a lot for others to learn from on the positive side. But do not try to invade either on land or sea . At this moment, the nine dash “ cow tongue” on the East Sea looks like another invasion of Vietnam to the rest of South East Asia
    For the better part of 20th century, Japan escaped China’s orbit and raised itself to western standards on economics, law, technology, military power,... while the rest including China got stuck in backwardness. So being in Sinosphere is not always healthy for other East Asian countries. It depends on situation and time.

    • @faustinuskaryadi6610
      @faustinuskaryadi6610 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still Japanese never denied they are part of Sinosphere unlike ultra nationalistic Vietnamese.

    • @mist4499
      @mist4499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      too ignorant. In the past, about 5000 years ago, the Viet people used to live in the Yangtze River Delta, in Southern China, the Han people called the Viet tribes living here Bach Viet (Bǎiyuè). After being invaded by the Han Dynasty from the North, the Viet people moved to the South of the Indochina peninsula to avoid the Chinese dynasties. Therefore, the ancient origin of Vietnamese people is East Asian. Today, after moving to Southeast Asia, Vietnam belongs to Southeast Asia. Previously, Vietnam was still located in East Asia and still had the characteristics of East Asian culture. Even your philippines, your ancestors are neither Latinos nor Americans, most of them are native Filipinos living in Southeast Asia. Looking back at the Vietnamese people, the ancestors of the Viet people are not in Southeast Asia, they are the Bach Viet (Bǎiyuè) people living in the South of the Yangtze River moving down to Southeast Asia.

    • @turnleft5055
      @turnleft5055 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mist4499 今天的越南国和古代的汉族建立的越南藩是没有任何关系的。民族结构关系都没有继承关系。今天的越南族不属于汉藏语族民族。基础是占婆马来混芒高棉。更靠近高棉南亚语系统。古代的越南藩是汉族建立的地方政权。主体民族是壮族和汉族。王室都是汉族藩镇。
      越南藩吴藩的吴权(汉族冀人)、丁藩的丁部领(汉族粤人)、前黎藩的黎桓(汉族蜀人)、李藩的李公蕴(汉族闽人)、陈藩的陈日煚(汉族闽人)(煚读jiong3声)、胡藩的胡季犛(汉族浙人)、莫藩的莫登庸(汉族粤人)、后黎藩的黎利(汉族闽人)、郑藩的郑检(汉族闽人)、阮藩的阮福映(汉族闽人) 这些所谓的越南藩和今天的越南国民族和历史没有任何呈递关系。今天的越南国是借壳上市。属于法国殖民后岘港以南芒高棉杂马来的一个民族北侵。这个在越南藩没被侵略前有人口户籍记载。占人和汉人人口。而今天民族完全被替换掉了

    • @Oscar42o
      @Oscar42o ปีที่แล้ว

      The Viet would be dirt barbarians if the Chinese didn't help them become civilized

  • @sairadha674
    @sairadha674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia? Are they not part of sinosphere

    • @lilaoyang
      @lilaoyang  3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      In my opinion, they are indosphere countries as their first religion and writing originated from India. It also includes Laos and Cambodia' meantimes.

    • @DonghuaGameCG3D
      @DonghuaGameCG3D 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      These countries are more affected by Indian culture

    • @faustinuskaryadi6610
      @faustinuskaryadi6610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      All other countries in South East Asia (even the most westernized Phillipines) except Vietnam are belong to Indosphere. Believe or not Filipino still have some Sanskrit loanwords in their language like diwata, maharlika, mahal, etc. So, Vietnam is actually most out of place in South East Asia. May be country with high Chinese diaspora in SEA like Singapore is also part of Sinosphere but still the Native Singaporean Malay are part of Indosphere, and they also have significant Tamil Indian population to be not excluded from Indosphere.

    • @DonghuaGameCG3D
      @DonghuaGameCG3D 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mist4499 Just like Vietnam was invaded by France, a thousand years later, when the Vietnamese read the history of France and find letters that are the same as the Vietnamese alphabet, can they regard southern France as the hometown of Vietnam?
      Stop such stupid ideas

    • @jerryle379
      @jerryle379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DonghuaGameCG3D France didn't creat quoc ngu ( modern Vietnam writing ) it was actually Jesus ( christian preacher in 16 or 17 century protuge guy with native vietnamese christian that creat the quoc ngu ; the french didn't eliminate the Nom writing it was vietminh in the north and in the south Ngo dinh diem that kill Nom and made quoc ngu main writing script ( France first push for quoc ngu but when they see nationalist used it to teach people how to read for propaganda and for anti french activity they actually close down tons of school that teach quoc ngu in the 30s 😆

  • @blackthanhhoa9879
    @blackthanhhoa9879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    vietnam taiwan korea hongkong .

    • @lyhthegreat
      @lyhthegreat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      no japan? also hk is not exactly a country

  • @aprilsong923
    @aprilsong923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    WTF... SINOPHERE?

  • @hermannboyen5392
    @hermannboyen5392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Vietnam is a multiethnic complex that never completely undertake of being absolutely sinosphere.
    Chinese in Vietnam are just a minority among 55+ ethnic groups and communities and that doesn't make this country sinosphere nation. Otherwise, Thailand, the US and Canada have much larger overseas Chinese communities than Vietnam. Even the Thai just migrated from southern China to Chao Phraya during 11-12th centuries because of Vietnamese expansion. The Tai leader Nong Zhigao declared himself Emperor of Dali state. Among two major Central Tai-speaking groups in the Northern Vietnam, the Nung are more sinicized than the Tay, who were vietized.

    • @tonganhminh9154
      @tonganhminh9154 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      54 dân tộc 😏

    • @tjph.me.qjnm9038
      @tjph.me.qjnm9038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Vietnam still a part of sinosphere. And this is about culture😅 do you feel spicy because Vietnam is a part of sinosphere culture but Thailand isnt😢 do you want any milk

    • @bantaocute
      @bantaocute ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that so? Vietnam is still Sinosphere anyway hahah 🥺🍫

    • @micheall7943
      @micheall7943 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thể hiện như vậy có ý nghĩa gì

  • @hugopaly4651
    @hugopaly4651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    什么老古董还在宣扬儒家文明圈,中日韩从来都不会在一个圈子里,越南是东南亚人别什么玩意都往上贴

    • @zili80
      @zili80 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @HUGOPALY 傻叉 这说的是汉文化圈 而且儒家文化怎么老古董了

    • @KimPhabulous12
      @KimPhabulous12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ??

    • @gyin9098
      @gyin9098 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      日韩在一个圈子里, 表面上看不顺眼, 其实日韩有一种基于现代意识形态, 发展程度的内在默契, 其实日韩很友好, 或者说很容易获得友好. 中国永远无法和这两个国家真正友好, 除非中国全方位超越美国.

    • @Kimwa-r6b
      @Kimwa-r6b 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am Vietnamese, I see many Southeast Asian countries that admire East Asian culture but misunderstand their own people and there are many debates whether Vietnam is part of East Asia or not? Personally, I think Vietnam is Southeast Asia but has a geographical position next to China and is influenced by the "Confucian" culture, you don't know that Vietnam has spent thousands of years living under a different culture . Confucius. And that is really torture under the feudal mindset that Vietnam is trying to remove from modern society, I just want to advise you in the Southeast Asian black group not to misunderstand yourself as Asian. forgetting their own race, being influenced by Confucianism that Vietnam has experienced for thousands of years is still a nightmare.

    • @turnleft5055
      @turnleft5055 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Kimwa-r6b 今天的越南国和古代的汉族建立的越南藩是没有任何关系的。民族结构关系都没有继承关系。今天的越南族不属于汉藏语族民族。基础是占婆马来混芒高棉。更靠近高棉南亚语系统。古代的越南藩是汉族建立的地方政权。主体民族是壮族和汉族。王室都是汉族藩镇。
      越南藩吴藩的吴权(汉族冀人)、丁藩的丁部领(汉族粤人)、前黎藩的黎桓(汉族蜀人)、李藩的李公蕴(汉族闽人)、陈藩的陈日煚(汉族闽人)(煚读jiong3声)、胡藩的胡季犛(汉族浙人)、莫藩的莫登庸(汉族粤人)、后黎藩的黎利(汉族闽人)、郑藩的郑检(汉族闽人)、阮藩的阮福映(汉族闽人) 这些所谓的越南藩和今天的越南国民族和历史没有任何呈递关系。今天的越南国是借壳上市。属于法国殖民后岘港以南芒高棉杂马来的一个民族北侵。这个在越南藩没被侵略前有人口户籍记载。占人和汉人人口。而今天民族完全被替换掉了。

  • @johnaronsolmiano1365
    @johnaronsolmiano1365 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Karaoke is a Filipino invention

    • @uknrfc
      @uknrfc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha

    • @elmcompanylimited5818
      @elmcompanylimited5818 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Filipino robbed the invention from Japanese.

    • @moksengchai2857
      @moksengchai2857 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@uknrfc
      Japanese, bro.

    • @moksengchai2857
      @moksengchai2857 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Japanese, bro.

  • @Joshua_Nguyen0630
    @Joshua_Nguyen0630 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Vietnam is never part of sinosphre

    • @mrjupiter30
      @mrjupiter30 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Wrong !!!
      Mày biết đéo j mà nói cái họ và đêm của mày ko phải từ văn hoá Đông Á chắc lấy từ bọn đảo Java chắc !

    • @Thuyp743
      @Thuyp743 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ban nay ko hieu tieng anh.nguoi noi sinosphere la nhung quoc gia da tung viet chu.giong nhau cung triet ly
      Ban ko.muong cung phai nhin bao su that ma thoi.tuan le 🇩🇰

    • @takigm4281
      @takigm4281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Geography ×
      Culture ✓

    • @Joshua_Nguyen0630
      @Joshua_Nguyen0630 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Vietnam is never similar in culture with China virus Kung Flu

    • @fq1220
      @fq1220 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@Joshua_Nguyen0630 So why do many ancient buildings in Vietnam use Chinese characters? History won't change because you don't like China.

  • @asce-n6724
    @asce-n6724 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Vietnam belongs to Southeast Asia. Vietnam cannot sit with East Asia. Vietnamese people's skin color and culture are both very different from those of East Asia

    • @mrjupiter30
      @mrjupiter30 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Có da mày đen thôi đừng đánh đồng cả nước chối bỏ văn hoá vì chính trị , thằng ngu

    • @takigm4281
      @takigm4281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ngu vch , Địa lý thì ở ĐNA nhưng nền văn hoá thì rất ĐA nhé

    • @Joshua_Nguyen0630
      @Joshua_Nguyen0630 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@takigm4281 Vietnamese never eat bat soup

    • @sgcl10658
      @sgcl10658 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The culture, not the ppl lmao. They didn't listen well. And I see a lot of Thai ppl look paler than Southern Chinese. Your point?

    • @canhvm3074
      @canhvm3074 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This sinosphere is term in cultures. Nobody said about skin or root or geography
      You are too mistake

  • @calloutmccallout3623
    @calloutmccallout3623 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Vietnam is not part of sinosphere

    • @rykertran2979
      @rykertran2979 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      So, please prove your point!

    • @nguyentienduy9129
      @nguyentienduy9129 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Lol

    • @nguyentienduy9129
      @nguyentienduy9129 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Wiki it and to get more educated

    • @Dominicn123
      @Dominicn123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      it was apart of china until a thousand years ago, wth?! lol

    • @concobayla3561
      @concobayla3561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      If Vietnam is not a sinosphere, then Japan is even less worthy

  • @kimurahundoshi4485
    @kimurahundoshi4485 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    china - covid-19
    japan - amazing anime
    korea - cool entertainment
    taiwan - strong tsmc
    vietnam - poor country

    • @saul_5726
      @saul_5726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Korean copy list:
      Sushi: Gimbap
      Karate : taekwondo
      Aikido: hapkido
      Kendo : Kumdo
      Honda:hyundai ............... countless more Korean is copy cat

    • @mrTeddyi94
      @mrTeddyi94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      China: Potencia en ascenso
      Japan: Paraíso del entretenimiento
      Korea: El país más occidentalizado
      Vietnam: Humilló a la potencia hegemónica

    • @tonganhminh9154
      @tonganhminh9154 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im from

    • @DungPhan-2002
      @DungPhan-2002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤮🤮🤮

    • @hlanbonkrong2590
      @hlanbonkrong2590 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your parents: shit of dogs