@@AureliusLaurentius1099 not even half of China before running out resources and ultimately losing its sovereignty is an interesting take on “winning”
Another fine addition to my 19th century Asian History collection. CORRECTIONS/DISCLAIMERS: 10:30 - I meant 1895, not 1885 - My Korean is pretty rough, no surprise I'm sure
7:32 The troops sent by Qing to fight in the war was not Beiyang Army(北洋军). Instead, they were the Huai Army(淮军) built and led by Li Hongzhang. Beiyang Army was originated from the New Army(新编陆军 or 新军) which was created after the first Sino-Japanese war. But the navy involved in the war was the Beiyang Fleet(北洋水师). I think that was the part where confusing was caused.
Another reason of confusion must be because the Beiyang Army succeeded the Huai Army which itself succeeded the Xiang Army and because they were pretty much being originated from eachother many times they mix it up
Meiji era military art works actually looks really damn cool. That old school style samurai paintings of hunched lunging soldiers with rifles sabers and the occasional pike while cannon smoke drifts across the field. Just perfect!
I like how this at least tries to cover the geopolitical struggle between rising japan and the qing that preceded the war instead of being like "then the fire nation attacked"
That “BRUH” moment when you realize the division of Korea after WW2 and the Korean War was in a way a rehash of history...we really don’t do a good job of learning from the past
Qing: *steps out of time machine* "Wait, what year is it?" Japan: "It's 1894." Qing: "Greetings, mortals! I am the Great Qing! Bow before me!" Japan: *raises rifle* "Uh, that really only works if you come from the future."
Technically speaking, if that Qing really came from the past, it actually might win the battle. Afterall, the technological disadvantage isn't the reason why Qing failed. A younger, more energetic and vivide Qing dynasty with less corruption might make it possible to catch up in technology, like Japan did over a few decades. In fact the JP meiji restoration and CN self-strenghning movement both started in 1860s. So, yah, not trying to ruin your meme, but a younger Qing government from the past probably gonna work, if they actually time-travelled to 1860s.
My relative Philo McGiffin fought for the Chinese as a naval commander during the war. He went to Annapolis, then sold his services to the Chinese in the early 1890s. He commanded the Chinese Battleship Zhen Yuan, and was severly wounded during the battle of the Yalu River. He eventually committed Suicide. I think he was my Great Grandfathers Uncle or add another Great.
I'm sorry my man. I saw "McGiffin" and my mind read as "Griffin," which went to Peter Griffin and I made my own _Family Guy_ smash cut of Peter as your ancestor at the Battle of the Yalu River.
Qing: Let's execute and mutilate the corpses of prisoners of war. This will totally make them scared. Japan: Finds bodies, which infuriates them and decides to massacre civilians. Qing: Suprised Pikachu Face. Don't be surprised that your enemy commits war crimes if you decide to ignore the laws of war first.
@@kantaikessen3289 the japanese were more notorious for war crimes on a massive scale in at the turn of the 20th century up till world war ii. it's inexcusable.
This war has always interested me for some reason so I'm glad someone is talking about it. its overlooked. my guess as to way is that much like the first world war, the 2nd version was just so much bigger and deadlier, that it just gets more focus. The fact that its tied to WW2 also doesn't help.
Agree, the First Sino-Japanese War is barely recognized that sadly many people even call the second war the "Sino-Japanese War". I have always found the First Sino-Japanese War more fascinating to learn as this war alone has influenced and left a mark not only to Japan nor China but also the world. Everyone, except the Japanese, thought that the Chinese would win, similar to how the Imjin War would play out.
I am no historian, but the reason why WW1 isn't covered as much as WW2 is imho not that WW2 was bigger and deadlier instead its just that trench warfare is boring to talk about. WW2 and all the more modern wars were a lot more mobile than WW1 and wars before that were mostly decided by one or a few battles, so WW1 is this 4 year long constant battle that after the inital offensive came to a halt became super static. The first sino-japanese war on the other hand is mostly overlooked, because at the time western powers saw both Japan and China as uncivilized. It also gets overshadowed by the russo-japanese war 10 years later, which was a wake up call for western powers that japan was able to beat a western power. Sure they downplayed the Japanese victory a lot, because Japanese battleships were built by the british and stuff like that, but in the end they had to admit that Japan was now a player in the game of worldpowers.
@@GodzThirdLeg yeah that's a good point. WW 1 was definitely less exiting then the 2nd one. Your point about the Russo-Japanese war is also good as the west really didn't give a crap about China which had been weak for years, but Russia well that was a major Western power.
The 1st Sino-Japanese War got overshadowed by the Russo-Japanese War. The former is treated as a dry run to Japan's ascendancy as a Great Power and a ringing validation that their 30 years of modernization is worth the civil wars and peasant revolts they suffered through...
@@gavinsmith9871 lol ahh that makes sense too, but the Japanese did sail into a secluded Korean port multiple times during the Imjin Wars a few hundred years before. Then suddenly Admiral Yi shows up with a few turtle boats. Japan (Pikachu face) Admiral Yi (Gangnam Style dances)
Influ scope fair enough. Generally speaking, the Korea (ROK)-China(PRC) relationship is overall negative/despised yet somewhat has shared common grounds from time to time.
@@zhengchen9405 Lol, Japan and South Korea are on the side of the US. There may be demands and negotiations, but why should the US increase tensions with them, especially now? Then, If China today has a great tech level, why should Chinese companies/organizations/governments heavily rely on foreign tech supports and supplies? Why Chinese own companies lack of international competitiveness except price, especially on the major industries? Why the most of Chinese workers still are low-payed, and why would they accept their wages?
"They lacked winter clothing and proper supply lines. Japan relied on speed to keep the Qing on the back foot and force them into a quick surrender." Starting to understand why they initially got along with Germany.
Europeans: Hey Japan we are colonizers Japan: Whats that? we want to be too! Europe: no wait i mean i'm here to colonize you! Japan: lol, funny. No really, who we invading? Korea, Taiwan, China. yeah lets do this. Europeans:. umm ok.. lets go be colonizers together then.
During that time, there was a new religion has rise up in Joseon and it’s called Donghak(동학, 훗날 천도교로 개명) And the followers of Donghak uprise against the incompetent Joseon Dynasty to achieve equality and justice. This riot soon called the Donghak Peasant Uprising. The Joseon Government was incompetent that they didn’t cease the uprising by their own power. Because the corruption cause the lack of training and support. So, the incompetent King Gojing and corrupted Queen Myeongseong who call the Qing Empire to cease the uprising even the object of the ministers. They doing this even they know it all because they just want to keep their power. And Japan involves it because China violated the Treaty of Tianjin and this cause of the First Sino Japanese War. The incompetent & corrupted king and queen of Joseon make the Korean Peninsula into the battlefield of China and Japan.
By choosing to adopt an isolationist stance Korea would become a battlefield regardless, it's surrounded by Russia, China and Japan. When they fight over their interests Korea would be caught in the middle of all that, it wouldn't be hard for one of them to produce an excuse for intervention in Korean affairs. The only way the Korean Peninsula could deter them is modernise and attain a respectable military akin to armed neutrality of Switzerland.
@@peterii3512 Like all Asians during that time. Most were so stuck to the past and still believed in their traditional ways to be superior when Europe had modernized and conquered the rest of the world. Despite them being the inventors to the gunpowder, they failed to make proper modernization and changes to their systems which led all of them to be pawns to the western powers for decades.
You know, since you haven't been posting a lot here recently, I'm rewatching your older videos (like them a lot!), and I'm from Russia, and the first few seconds of this one shows a notification that the video's not available in my country... you've got no idea of how harsh this add has been on me! Hope you are well and thank you for the content!
attacking a larger country with larger population, relying on speed to defeat another country, is unprepared for winter, and ends up freezing in while sieging a city (weihawei)... hmmm sounds familiar
3:13 Both husband and wife were possessed by a corrupted and wicked sorceress named 진령군. That sorceress is the Korean version of Rasputin. Empress Myongsung believe she was the holy healer to cure his eunuch son Sunjong, who will become the last king of the Joseon dynasty aka the Korean Empire.
Why was Gojong's father not the outright king? His son ascended to the throne at 12, but yet was too young so needed his father as regent? Feels like I'm missing a part of the story
Yeah there is whole long story behind that but yeah to put it simple, Daewongun made a realistic deal and political maneuver that would weaken the Andong Kim family that controlled royal palace behind weak kings, while securing his foothold within the palace and political scene. One of that move was to make his 12yr old son a step son of one of power queen within palace to secure legitimacy and claim to the throne, while he himself could still wield political power and authority as ‘daewongun’ a title that was originally given to deceased father of kings who weren’t monarch themselves.
Hey. Korean Here. It's refreshing to hear this historic event from a third party as it has less bias and more facts that the bs that Korean teachers try to shove down our throats. P.s. trust the chinese to throw the peninsula into disarray every single time.
@@banzaiperson I'm afraid so. I do hope those two countries eventually get around to building the Tsushima Strait Tunnel, and have that act as a way to gently soften relations somewhat. There's obviously a clear recognition at the top levels of government and business in those two countries that the two of them (or three, counting the RoC which is in a similar situation) have to work together if they're to survive as they are in an area increasingly dominated by the PRC, but there's still way too much resentment among the general public in both countries.
@@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva china uncensored is literally a FLG propaganda mouth piece(i do mean literally, they are owned directly by the FLG). the same group that complained that china was giving away national land when they settled borders then complain that china is imperialistic when it defends it claims. the same group that claims something like a billion people quit the ccp, which has never had a billion members, their metric for arriving at the number? they have a website where "ccp" member can click a button to "quit" the party, I myself has "quit" about 50 times when i saw that site. the fact that you take anything coming out of their anti-china propaganda channel says enough about you. youre no better than those paid CCP fanboys.
@@AlternateTimelord Then again, that constitution was copied wholesale from the German Constitution (made by Bismarck) which concentrated powers in the Prime Minister and not the Emperor and it "helps" that the Emperors are standoffish...
@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 so that means that the emperor has shared power which in my definition, doesn’t make him a dictator. I don’t think the emperor had as much power as some people think since 1885, the power has shifted from a oligarchy, a parliament, a military dictatorship, and a parliament again.
You missed to mention the rising tension between the Qing and the Japanese. Before this, Okinawan seafarers were shipwrecked and murdered by taiwanese aborigines, and the Qing did... Nothing... Qing sailors went on a riot in Nagasaki and the Qing, they managed to bully Japan into lifting the sword ban (they were the stronger nation during these times)
It's actually quite interesting because, after all this fighting and war including that of ww2 and the Korean War, Korea actually succeeded in modernizing Korea just as Japan did in the Meiji period, and Korea was listed as one of the poorest countries in the world, and then climbed to the 11th most rich country in the world within 67 years after *_hundreds_* of years of being a poor, and secluded, which is in my opinion, amazing.
@@NangNangEEYeah by using Japan war reparations money. Park use those 3 billion yen to build south korea industries instead of paying the Korean victim of ww2.
Thanks to USA btw Without USA Korea Will lose to north and Korea Will not be rich, And again if north win battle against south, DPR Korea must be thankfully to uni Soviet and China Well Korea is not independent people and always helped by other country
Thanks to USA btw Without USA Korea Will lose to north and Korea Will not be rich, And again if north win battle against south, DPR Korea must be thankfully to uni Soviet and China Well Korea is not independent people and always helped by other country
Thanks to USA btw Without USA Korea Will lose to north and Korea Will not be rich, And again if north win battle against south, DPR Korea must be thankfully to uni Soviet and China Well Korea is not independent people and always helped by other country
Queen Min: I don’t trust you. You seem to think yourself the Qing’s equal. Meiji: What? That’s not remotely true. *gunboats enter Busan* Meiji: I am *superior* to the Qing.
Strange to think of a time when China had Battleships and Japan did not and yet even so, they still lost. From Dynasty to Republic to Communist Dictatorship, the corruption of China has remained in the bones.
Actually at the time of the First Sino-Japanese war Japan COULD have had battleships, but chose not to, since they were modelling their navy on a French doctrine of the time, that favored small, fast moving fleets, made up of torpedo boats and destroyers, supported by cruisers that was thought could destroy an enemy battlefleet with torpedo strikes and cripple their economy with commerce raiding. The theory didn't really pan out as expected, as while the Japanese did win decisive victories at sea, it was largely because the Qing fleet was so comically unprepared (Most of their shells for example were training round filled with porcelain and concrete) and it still took a lot of doing, since the Japanese had very few heavy units of their own. As a result, following the first Sino-Japanese war, Japan used its close diplomatic and trade links to Britain, to have an entire new Battlefleet of their own constructed in British shipyards, while they built up their own industries to be able to build their own ships in the future.
@@weldonwin Do you know why Japan chose to follow French doctrine for their navy instead of Britain's? Considering their strong relationship with the latter
@@weldonwin As I understand it, Japanese Battleships were still being constructed in British shipyards when they used their cruiser fleet to take on the Chinese Battleships. Even with defective ammunition, all that armor on the Chinese Battleships gave the Chinese a significant edge which they could not capitalize on.
@@ruben4385 Japan at the time had a habit of looking at different European powers and trying to emulate their successes, but they were also quite realistic about this. While the Japanese would have recognised that Britain was the most powerful naval power in the world at the time, France was a clear second, and France was actually far more innovative in terms of both ship designs and naval tactics. For Japan, with limited shipbuilding capacity and a yet-to-be-trained naval officer corps, the French model probably looked far more feasible within the desired timeframe.
The qing could've exist even in this day if its leaders weren't that lazy. If they would've wake in the morning and say for the whole day: The Qing MUST be reformed and they would repeat that in their head the whole day and also do it but they just wanted their own good wich left them with none.
China in the 19th century was still a deeply divided country, along both cultural and religious lines. The Qing, being of Manchurian origin, were never quite respected by the Han majority, and if anything, the Qing's policies only made this division worse. There's a reason why after abolishing the monarchy, the new Chinese republic spent so much effort in trying to portray the different groups within China as belonging to a single national identity.
The qing is ineffective against the more centralized and modernized nations of the west and japan. Even if the qing was able to modernize and reform, its government system heavily relied on decentralization - which could be easily fractured by a stubborn enemy.
You completely ignore how the Qing tried to actively reform ever since the Opium war but it was not successful. Modernization is not so simple, it’s extremely complex and the ONLY nation to successfully modernize in the 19th century was Japan. Many more tried and failed.
It’s sad that the Japanese government essentially betrayed their own culture to modernize, but considering they kept the majority of Japanese culture intact and it ended up doing amazing things for Japan.... I suppose it was a good thing
@@mxn1948 doesn’t matter if people hate them in Eastern and south Eastern Asia, they hold a huge amount of economic dominance across the world, plus they have a very very good reputation in the West + Middle East and their a close military/economic ally of India who’s set to become a top world power in the next 40 years.
But due to the rapid and skewed way of modernization, Japan was somewhat forced to have aggressive and expansionist foreign policy to survive. Thus some scholars think that way Japan modernized somewhat doomed her to be thrown into countless wars
@@yongkukkweon8385 I mean when was the last major conflict involving Japan? You could say Iraq but even then they just sent a single platoon of military engineers and nothing else. They haven't gained any noticeable territory in the last 65 years and they have no intention on invading foreign countries, they don't need to expand to continue to hold/grow economic dominance.
I remember this war well !! The Qing dynasty was weak, and the Japanese empire strong and modern !!! Korea finally became independent from the Qing Dynasty, and became the empire of Korea, but not for long.
Korea definitely did not become independent, not fully. They were no longer under tbe influence of the Qing, but were immediately the region for a political struggle between Japan and Russia, then were effectively a colony of Japan until its defeat in 1945. They really weren't truly independent until after WW2.
Maybe if Daewongun opened borders to major powers Korea could have remained as a sovereign state with neutrality in international relations as a buffer state between Qing, Japan, and Russia just like Siam. Just saying.
@@primastanislaus9184 Well Qings control over Joseon by the 1800s was only in name. Joseon had violated the treaty by by buildings forts ETC. And Joseon was also modernizing under Queen Min without Qing approval.
And so.. the Qing Dynasty became the CCP and Korea's upper half is now called North Korea or... more like a subject of the CCP... history never changed...just different ideologies...
Will you make a video on Tibet and Taiwan too ? I like your channel it is very educative so I hope you can make a video on those two countries history too.
That first frame scared me for a moment. I was wondering what about Japan fighting China over Korea could possibly be region locked out of Canada.
Ya same here I was so confused
Well, information is power, so information control is power as well, right? It WAS a good intro, though, had me as well for a moment!
I was really confused for a second as to why a video from an Australian creator would be blocked in Australia...
Same here, wondered why living in Alberta would get that
Same and I'm also canadian
"Peasant uprising."
Or as we call it these days, the comments section.
100% straight up facts
hilarious and original! :D
your comment offends me! delete this comment now! >:(
Also, Twitter.
Very true
>bad supplies
>no winter clothing
>rely on speed to balance it out
surely such a strategy can never fail!
Japan won though
@@AureliusLaurentius1099 well the strategy failed eventually , against the Chinese non-the less
@@AureliusLaurentius1099 not even half of China before running out resources and ultimately losing its sovereignty is an interesting take on “winning”
Another fine addition to my 19th century Asian History collection.
CORRECTIONS/DISCLAIMERS:
10:30 - I meant 1895, not 1885
- My Korean is pretty rough, no surprise I'm sure
Better than most, my guy!
In this age modernization ment westernization, I am afraid.
i understand it!
Would you mind do a video on how the north east Asia were powerful then south East Asia . I have alot of questions .
Also, it’s pronounced konnichiwa
"Korea came last"
Me: ...
lmao
Pls don’t nuke me I wanna live
You're not thinking about nuking countries right?
"Nuked Australia is best Australia!"
-Kim Jong-un probably
... But at least it came! Nothing like being politically blue-balled when being taken at both ends.
Finally! I have been wanting someone to cover the First Sino-Japanese War. Thank you!
7:32 The troops sent by Qing to fight in the war was not Beiyang Army(北洋军). Instead, they were the Huai Army(淮军) built and led by Li Hongzhang. Beiyang Army was originated from the New Army(新编陆军 or 新军) which was created after the first Sino-Japanese war. But the navy involved in the war was the Beiyang Fleet(北洋水师). I think that was the part where confusing was caused.
Another reason of confusion must be because the Beiyang Army succeeded the Huai Army which itself succeeded the Xiang Army and because they were pretty much being originated from eachother many times they mix it up
@@osu3167 The reason is the same as why the Ottoman Empire was so weak
Ah Korea, the Poland of Asia.
And Manchuria
Well Poland has 5 neighbors, and Korea has only two neighbors.
@David Kim Can't set aside anything though.
@conan 263 European ate horses…
conan 263 pot calls kettle black
I'm sure the Imperial Japanese Army learned their lesson and never again decided to massacre civilians and prisoners out of anger and boredom.
@@sinoroman it's a joke
@@vic_t0r260 My joke was gonna be that or "Who knew combining nationalism, Bushido, and repeating rifles would be a bad idea?"
@@sinoroman r/whoosh
likes on your replies are going up, so gonna repost in comment section. won't stop your likes from going up, but will slow it down :)
posting a serious reply on a future issue on a joke comment was my fault from the beginning kek
Meiji era military art works actually looks really damn cool. That old school style samurai paintings of hunched lunging soldiers with rifles sabers and the occasional pike while cannon smoke drifts across the field. Just perfect!
Not equipped for a full-scale land war? Lacking winter equipment? Stalling offensive during the winter? Where have I heard this before?
Or 1812
sounds familiar, the swedes in 1709.
also, attacking a larger country with larger population and using speed to defeat the country
I’m Korean and the explanation in this video has helped me understand Korean history a lot better with amazing graphics. Thanks!
which half?
I like how this at least tries to cover the geopolitical struggle between rising japan and the qing that preceded the war instead of being like "then the fire nation attacked"
The fate of Asia did lie between China and Japan...
That “BRUH” moment when you realize the division of Korea after WW2 and the Korean War was in a way a rehash of history...we really don’t do a good job of learning from the past
To be fair there wasn’t really much time since all the shit that happened went by ridiculously fast
Rehash of which country's history?
@@sampuatisamuel9785 Korea in the past is also Korea in the present, divided.
Qing: *steps out of time machine* "Wait, what year is it?"
Japan: "It's 1894."
Qing: "Greetings, mortals! I am the Great Qing! Bow before me!"
Japan: *raises rifle* "Uh, that really only works if you come from the future."
What did I read...
@@hiimryan2388 something pure golden
Not really pure golden despite me posting Qing dynasty ships videos
Technically speaking, if that Qing really came from the past, it actually might win the battle.
Afterall, the technological disadvantage isn't the reason why Qing failed.
A younger, more energetic and vivide Qing dynasty with less corruption might make it possible to catch up in technology, like Japan did over a few decades.
In fact the JP meiji restoration and CN self-strenghning movement both started in 1860s.
So, yah, not trying to ruin your meme, but a younger Qing government from the past probably gonna work, if they actually time-travelled to 1860s.
My relative Philo McGiffin fought for the Chinese as a naval commander during the war. He went to Annapolis, then sold his services to the Chinese in the early 1890s. He commanded the Chinese Battleship Zhen Yuan, and was severly wounded during the battle of the Yalu River. He eventually committed Suicide. I think he was my Great Grandfathers Uncle or add another Great.
Cool! Thanks for sharing.
That’s a cool story man
I'm sorry my man. I saw "McGiffin" and my mind read as "Griffin," which went to Peter Griffin and I made my own _Family Guy_ smash cut of Peter as your ancestor at the Battle of the Yalu River.
dragged into a doomed war. poor man.
@@danielseelye6005 hahahahahhaha this had me dying.
“The Japanese committed a massacre against civilians” - who saw that coming???
Every Asian, probably
Nobody at all. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimizuka
Qing: Let's execute and mutilate the corpses of prisoners of war. This will totally make them scared.
Japan: Finds bodies, which infuriates them and decides to massacre civilians.
Qing: Suprised Pikachu Face.
Don't be surprised that your enemy commits war crimes if you decide to ignore the laws of war first.
@@kantaikessen3289 what’s your excuse for the Rape of Nanking?
@@kantaikessen3289 the japanese were more notorious for war crimes on a massive scale in at the turn of the 20th century up till world war ii. it's inexcusable.
First time I actually enjoy a sponsor message. For a moment I thought the video wasn't available for my country. Great video too!
Good to see you here
This war has always interested me for some reason so I'm glad someone is talking about it. its overlooked. my guess as to way is that much like the first world war, the 2nd version was just so much bigger and deadlier, that it just gets more focus. The fact that its tied to WW2 also doesn't help.
Agree, the First Sino-Japanese War is barely recognized that sadly many people even call the second war the "Sino-Japanese War".
I have always found the First Sino-Japanese War more fascinating to learn as this war alone has influenced and left a mark not only to Japan nor China but also the world. Everyone, except the Japanese, thought that the Chinese would win, similar to how the Imjin War would play out.
I am no historian, but the reason why WW1 isn't covered as much as WW2 is imho not that WW2 was bigger and deadlier instead its just that trench warfare is boring to talk about. WW2 and all the more modern wars were a lot more mobile than WW1 and wars before that were mostly decided by one or a few battles, so WW1 is this 4 year long constant battle that after the inital offensive came to a halt became super static.
The first sino-japanese war on the other hand is mostly overlooked, because at the time western powers saw both Japan and China as uncivilized. It also gets overshadowed by the russo-japanese war 10 years later, which was a wake up call for western powers that japan was able to beat a western power. Sure they downplayed the Japanese victory a lot, because Japanese battleships were built by the british and stuff like that, but in the end they had to admit that Japan was now a player in the game of worldpowers.
@@GodzThirdLeg yeah that's a good point. WW 1 was definitely less exiting then the 2nd one. Your point about the Russo-Japanese war is also good as the west really didn't give a crap about China which had been weak for years, but Russia well that was a major Western power.
The 1st Sino-Japanese War got overshadowed by the Russo-Japanese War. The former is treated as a dry run to Japan's ascendancy as a Great Power and a ringing validation that their 30 years of modernization is worth the civil wars and peasant revolts they suffered through...
"Japan sails a gunboat into a secluded Korean port."
Hey...wait a minute...
no admiral yi this time around unfortunately
@@daeseongkim93 I was referring to when the Americans did the same thing to Japan, but that also works.
@@gavinsmith9871
USA:I taught them well.
Japan: YOUR NEXT AMERICA!!!
@@gavinsmith9871 lol ahh that makes sense too, but the Japanese did sail into a secluded Korean port multiple times during the Imjin Wars a few hundred years before. Then suddenly Admiral Yi shows up with a few turtle boats.
Japan (Pikachu face)
Admiral Yi (Gangnam Style dances)
@@daeseongkim93 But now the Japanese had turtle ships (Ships made out of iron)
Ah, the good-old love-hate triangle between China, Japan, and Korea.
Influ scope fair enough. Generally speaking, the Korea (ROK)-China(PRC) relationship is overall negative/despised yet somewhat has shared common grounds from time to time.
@Influ scope well you can find anti-korea/china protests in japan very easily. Obviously Three counties hates each other, not only china and korea.
@Influ scope Oh I understood..😅 thanks for the explanation!!
@@zhengchen9405
China is a huge country with inferior tech, though.
@@zhengchen9405
Lol, Japan and South Korea are on the side of the US.
There may be demands and negotiations, but why should the US increase tensions with them, especially now?
Then, If China today has a great tech level, why should Chinese companies/organizations/governments heavily rely on foreign tech supports and supplies?
Why Chinese own companies lack of international competitiveness except price, especially on the major industries?
Why the most of Chinese workers still are low-payed, and why would they accept their wages?
Ngl the first couple seconds scared me
Same
same lol
same lol lol
That Korean division... Seems familiar, but I can't exactly point where it is heading...
That's probably the best way of doing an AD for them I've ever seen.
"Against ISP"
I didn't know ISorrowProductions is attacking my ip adress.
I definitely not see this coming.
"They lacked winter clothing and proper supply lines. Japan relied on speed to keep the Qing on the back foot and force them into a quick surrender."
Starting to understand why they initially got along with Germany.
With how 1870 worked out for them, Germany is everyone's favorite drill seargent...
@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 happy Chilean noises
Relying on Speed is probably a maneuver they learned from the French, after all, Napoleon did it too, earlier than The Germans
So Japan conquered and had to cede Port Arthur *twice* before WWII? No wonder they were pissed about not being taken seriously.
3:15 Daewongun now is Daewongone
Dude, I love your videos! Your informed and interesting approach to history is enthralling, keep up the good work!
Excellent video, always great to hear about this war.
Essay teatcher: You can't use ctrl c + ctrl v
Me and the boys: 0:40
Hell Yeah i love it! i didnt even notice that you were making this video even though im a patreon
歴史を知るって楽しい。
It is fun to know the history.
HAHA! You had me! We get the same crap in Canada. "Video not available in your fircken country"
Too much free speech yeah?
Modernisation always has Traditionalists pitted against Reformists
"I'm playing both sides so, that I always come out on top." 4:45
Europeans: Hey Japan we are colonizers
Japan: Whats that? we want to be too!
Europe: no wait i mean i'm here to colonize you!
Japan: lol, funny. No really, who we invading? Korea, Taiwan, China. yeah lets do this.
Europeans:. umm ok.. lets go be colonizers together then.
Hes back! Great vid man! Funny and serious when it needs it! Beautiful thankyou man!
During that time, there was a new religion has rise up in Joseon and it’s called Donghak(동학, 훗날 천도교로 개명) And the followers of Donghak uprise against the incompetent Joseon Dynasty to achieve equality and justice. This riot soon called the Donghak Peasant Uprising. The Joseon Government was incompetent that they didn’t cease the uprising by their own power. Because the corruption cause the lack of training and support. So, the incompetent King Gojing and corrupted Queen Myeongseong who call the Qing Empire to cease the uprising even the object of the ministers. They doing this even they know it all because they just want to keep their power. And Japan involves it because China violated the Treaty of Tianjin and this cause of the First Sino Japanese War.
The incompetent & corrupted king and queen of Joseon make the Korean Peninsula into the battlefield of China and Japan.
By choosing to adopt an isolationist stance Korea would become a battlefield regardless, it's surrounded by Russia, China and Japan. When they fight over their interests Korea would be caught in the middle of all that, it wouldn't be hard for one of them to produce an excuse for intervention in Korean affairs. The only way the Korean Peninsula could deter them is modernise and attain a respectable military akin to armed neutrality of Switzerland.
If Korea hadn’t industrialized and modernized then it was going to turn into a battlefield anyway. Why would Koreans oppose modernization?
@@peterii3512 Like all Asians during that time. Most were so stuck to the past and still believed in their traditional ways to be superior when Europe had modernized and conquered the rest of the world. Despite them being the inventors to the gunpowder, they failed to make proper modernization and changes to their systems which led all of them to be pawns to the western powers for decades.
Toledo Christian Matthew But that isn’t a useful answer, WHY did they not modernize.
@@peterii3512 As it is said in this video, a lot of political instability in the government and the clash between modernists and traditionalists.
maybe this might be the most important video you ever made.... loved it
That ending though lmao. "I couldn't be sitting here drawing eyeless people without them."
You know, since you haven't been posting a lot here recently, I'm rewatching your older videos (like them a lot!), and I'm from Russia, and the first few seconds of this one shows a notification that the video's not available in my country... you've got no idea of how harsh this add has been on me! Hope you are well and thank you for the content!
Korea is like the Riverlands of eastern Asia
Easy Asia’s Poland
@@constantinexi6489 more like the benelux region
You're all correct.
We're the metal and China and Japan are the hammer and anvil
@@constantinexi6489 except more popular
Thank you for the video, I'm writing an essay on the first Sino-Japanese war and this helped me with getting all the background information. :)
attacking a larger country with larger population, relying on speed to defeat another country, is unprepared for winter, and ends up freezing in while sieging a city (weihawei)... hmmm sounds familiar
I heard of this one austrian paintet that would love to do that
Requesting for you to do one on after WW2 and the power dynamic between Syngman Rhee, Kim Il Sung, and Kim Gu
and Pak Honyong
3:13 Both husband and wife were possessed by a corrupted and wicked sorceress named 진령군. That sorceress is the Korean version of Rasputin.
Empress Myongsung believe she was the holy healer to cure his eunuch son Sunjong, who will become the last king of the Joseon dynasty aka the Korean Empire.
Korea has a sorcerer problem eh
@@peterii3512 And they were called 무당.
Previously she was venerated and now demonized in Korea? How fast the time is.
arent korean blaming japanse for death of Empress Myongsung?
@@kpopkpop5235 Still. But now they blaming Empress Myongsung for her corruption.
I love Japan and Japanese culture 🇯🇵 from Somaliland
okay, you won me over with "secure tunnel"
Secure secure tunnel! - I laughed so hard
Great video as always, just wish you uploaded more
Just an fyi, it was February of 1895, not 1885.
Still a great video though, always love ur work and the topics you cover!
That secret tunnel reference was great 👍
13:15
Why was Gojong's father not the outright king? His son ascended to the throne at 12, but yet was too young so needed his father as regent? Feels like I'm missing a part of the story
Yeah there is whole long story behind that but yeah to put it simple, Daewongun made a realistic deal and political maneuver that would weaken the Andong Kim family that controlled royal palace behind weak kings, while securing his foothold within the palace and political scene. One of that move was to make his 12yr old son a step son of one of power queen within palace to secure legitimacy and claim to the throne, while he himself could still wield political power and authority as ‘daewongun’ a title that was originally given to deceased father of kings who weren’t monarch themselves.
good stuff, captured the important points for sure.
Hey. Korean Here. It's refreshing to hear this historic event from a third party as it has less bias and more facts that the bs that Korean teachers try to shove down our throats.
P.s. trust the chinese to throw the peninsula into disarray every single time.
Are Korean teachers biased in favor of the Qing or Japan?
Edit: think I realize who they favor now.
@@banzaiperson yeah it would be pretty obvious now ain't it...
@@banzaiperson I'm afraid so. I do hope those two countries eventually get around to building the Tsushima Strait Tunnel, and have that act as a way to gently soften relations somewhat. There's obviously a clear recognition at the top levels of government and business in those two countries that the two of them (or three, counting the RoC which is in a similar situation) have to work together if they're to survive as they are in an area increasingly dominated by the PRC, but there's still way too much resentment among the general public in both countries.
@@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva how much do you trust China uncensored?
@@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva china uncensored is literally a FLG propaganda mouth piece(i do mean literally, they are owned directly by the FLG). the same group that complained that china was giving away national land when they settled borders then complain that china is imperialistic when it defends it claims. the same group that claims something like a billion people quit the ccp, which has never had a billion members, their metric for arriving at the number? they have a website where "ccp" member can click a button to "quit" the party, I myself has "quit" about 50 times when i saw that site.
the fact that you take anything coming out of their anti-china propaganda channel says enough about you. youre no better than those paid CCP fanboys.
Nearly lost my mind with that first few seconds 😂😂 brilliant ad
emperor Meiji was definitely a warlord.
*dictator
*emperor
@@hiimryan2388 you have no idea what the Meiji constitution is
@@AlternateTimelord Then again, that constitution was copied wholesale from the German Constitution (made by Bismarck) which concentrated powers in the Prime Minister and not the Emperor and it "helps" that the Emperors are standoffish...
@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 so that means that the emperor has shared power which in my definition, doesn’t make him a dictator. I don’t think the emperor had as much power as some people think since 1885, the power has shifted from a oligarchy, a parliament, a military dictatorship, and a parliament again.
I'm glad you don't sound tired or high in this video
You missed to mention the rising tension between the Qing and the Japanese. Before this, Okinawan seafarers were shipwrecked and murdered by taiwanese aborigines, and the Qing did... Nothing... Qing sailors went on a riot in Nagasaki and the Qing, they managed to bully Japan into lifting the sword ban (they were the stronger nation during these times)
What an avatar reference, that little tid bit made my entire day.
It's actually quite interesting because, after all this fighting and war including that of ww2 and the Korean War, Korea actually succeeded in modernizing Korea just as Japan did in the Meiji period, and Korea was listed as one of the poorest countries in the world, and then climbed to the 11th most rich country in the world within 67 years after *_hundreds_* of years of being a poor, and secluded, which is in my opinion, amazing.
Yes it is an amazing history. Thanks to the greatest President of Korea, Park Jung Hee, who made the limestone of what South Korea is now & today.
@@NangNangEEYeah by using Japan war reparations money. Park use those 3 billion yen to build south korea industries instead of paying the Korean victim of ww2.
Thanks to USA btw
Without USA Korea Will lose to north and Korea Will not be rich,
And again if north win battle against south, DPR Korea must be thankfully to uni Soviet and China
Well Korea is not independent people and always helped by other country
Thanks to USA btw
Without USA Korea Will lose to north and Korea Will not be rich,
And again if north win battle against south, DPR Korea must be thankfully to uni Soviet and China
Well Korea is not independent people and always helped by other country
Thanks to USA btw
Without USA Korea Will lose to north and Korea Will not be rich,
And again if north win battle against south, DPR Korea must be thankfully to uni Soviet and China
Well Korea is not independent people and always helped by other country
I would've liked the video just for all the information, but the ATLA Secret Tunnel reference was what really did it for me 😅
Queen Min: I don’t trust you. You seem to think yourself the Qing’s equal.
Meiji: What? That’s not remotely true.
*gunboats enter Busan*
Meiji: I am *superior* to the Qing.
I like how you put the Mandate of Heaven soundtrack from Kaiserreich
I thought this video not being in my country was real lol
Mohammod comics video probably yes
Wow knocked it out of the park with this one
I died at the intro greetings. As someone who speaks Chinese, Japanese, and a little bit Korean that is a hilarious pronunciation ever
The Korean one was probably the funniest.
Wow great video, would you please make an episode about the Cochinchina campaign.
Strange to think of a time when China had Battleships and Japan did not and yet even so, they still lost. From Dynasty to Republic to Communist Dictatorship, the corruption of China has remained in the bones.
Actually at the time of the First Sino-Japanese war Japan COULD have had battleships, but chose not to, since they were modelling their navy on a French doctrine of the time, that favored small, fast moving fleets, made up of torpedo boats and destroyers, supported by cruisers that was thought could destroy an enemy battlefleet with torpedo strikes and cripple their economy with commerce raiding. The theory didn't really pan out as expected, as while the Japanese did win decisive victories at sea, it was largely because the Qing fleet was so comically unprepared (Most of their shells for example were training round filled with porcelain and concrete) and it still took a lot of doing, since the Japanese had very few heavy units of their own. As a result, following the first Sino-Japanese war, Japan used its close diplomatic and trade links to Britain, to have an entire new Battlefleet of their own constructed in British shipyards, while they built up their own industries to be able to build their own ships in the future.
@@weldonwin Do you know why Japan chose to follow French doctrine for their navy instead of Britain's? Considering their strong relationship with the latter
@@weldonwin As I understand it, Japanese Battleships were still being constructed in British shipyards when they used their cruiser fleet to take on the Chinese Battleships. Even with defective ammunition, all that armor on the Chinese Battleships gave the Chinese a significant edge which they could not capitalize on.
It depends on what you mean by corruption but yes
@@ruben4385 Japan at the time had a habit of looking at different European powers and trying to emulate their successes, but they were also quite realistic about this. While the Japanese would have recognised that Britain was the most powerful naval power in the world at the time, France was a clear second, and France was actually far more innovative in terms of both ship designs and naval tactics. For Japan, with limited shipbuilding capacity and a yet-to-be-trained naval officer corps, the French model probably looked far more feasible within the desired timeframe.
Wow creative animation loved it!
8:41 wait a minute...
Hmm
Hey, I've seen that before... Hmm...
Anyone else noticed the Kaiserreich OST at 7:10?
The qing could've exist even in this day if its leaders weren't that lazy. If they would've wake in the morning and say for the whole day: The Qing MUST be reformed and they would repeat that in their head the whole day and also do it but they just wanted their own good wich left them with none.
Easier said than done
China in the 19th century was still a deeply divided country, along both cultural and religious lines. The Qing, being of Manchurian origin, were never quite respected by the Han majority, and if anything, the Qing's policies only made this division worse. There's a reason why after abolishing the monarchy, the new Chinese republic spent so much effort in trying to portray the different groups within China as belonging to a single national identity.
Sun jat Sen wanted to reform the qing first but quickly realized that this was practically impossible
The qing is ineffective against the more centralized and modernized nations of the west and japan. Even if the qing was able to modernize and reform, its government system heavily relied on decentralization - which could be easily fractured by a stubborn enemy.
You completely ignore how the Qing tried to actively reform ever since the Opium war but it was not successful. Modernization is not so simple, it’s extremely complex and the ONLY nation to successfully modernize in the 19th century was Japan. Many more tried and failed.
Please do the Second-Sino Japanese War next!
@Skazka "...the Second-Sino Japanese [Second Sino-Japanese] War next!"
First. Also, can't wait to watch this!
8:38
Man, why does this sound so familiar...
It’s sad that the Japanese government essentially betrayed their own culture to modernize, but considering they kept the majority of Japanese culture intact and it ended up doing amazing things for Japan.... I suppose it was a good thing
To be fair, trading parts your culture to become one of the most powerful countries in the world is a pretty worthwhile trade
amazing things..... yes getting nuked and presently hated by half of asia is so amazing.
@@mxn1948 doesn’t matter if people hate them in Eastern and south Eastern Asia, they hold a huge amount of economic dominance across the world, plus they have a very very good reputation in the West + Middle East and their a close military/economic ally of India who’s set to become a top world power in the next 40 years.
But due to the rapid and skewed way of modernization, Japan was somewhat forced to have aggressive and expansionist foreign policy to survive. Thus some scholars think that way Japan modernized somewhat doomed her to be thrown into countless wars
@@yongkukkweon8385 I mean when was the last major conflict involving Japan? You could say Iraq but even then they just sent a single platoon of military engineers and nothing else. They haven't gained any noticeable territory in the last 65 years and they have no intention on invading foreign countries, they don't need to expand to continue to hold/grow economic dominance.
Seriously thought the video had been taken down for a second lol
I remember this war well !! The Qing dynasty was weak, and the Japanese empire strong and modern !!! Korea finally became independent from the Qing Dynasty, and became the empire of Korea, but not for long.
Korea definitely did not become independent, not fully. They were no longer under tbe influence of the Qing, but were immediately the region for a political struggle between Japan and Russia, then were effectively a colony of Japan until its defeat in 1945. They really weren't truly independent until after WW2.
Meiji, you surely make the headline.
Congrats for the video!!
A suggestion: please, make a video about the Paraguay War, the biggest and bloodiest conflict in South America.
Thank you so much for using the term ''Western imperialists'' and not ''Europeans''. Cheers !
I really thought this was not available in my country, I was going to close it till a cursor showed up
just watched the last samurai
tahts some next level sponsor
Maybe if Daewongun opened borders to major powers Korea could have remained as a sovereign state with neutrality in international relations as a buffer state between Qing, Japan, and Russia just like Siam. Just saying.
They can't, not allowed by Qing.
If only Korea had more ability to run a country
@@valkyriesalvage3564 I agree late Joseon was weak. But that's what you get for basing you government on Confucianism. If only Goryeo survived.
@@primastanislaus9184 Well Qings control over Joseon by the 1800s was only in name. Joseon had violated the treaty by by buildings forts ETC. And Joseon was also modernizing under Queen Min without Qing approval.
Is that Kaiserreich Qing theme in the background?
Ah the Korean kingdom. Asia's very own Poland.
Followed in lockstep by Vietnam as Asia's little Poland.
Korea and Vietnam are basically Poland's cousins.
@Hoàng Nguyên Đậu that's why I love history
@Hoàng Nguyên Đậu and for some reasons they are considered the safest during COVID.
That beginning promotion had me spooked, like we're both Australians how is the video not available in his own country?
This video is almost as surprising as a Japanese surprise attack
That’s cool bro, nice video.... there could have been a movie
I was literally watching 3 of your videos right now
7 years war
Russo-japenese war
Polish-Soviet war
Hey man, is the second one coming out, too?
I swear to god every war Japan was in there's some sort of massacre and violation of the geneva convention.
Great video, are you planning to do a video on the second Boer war?
Hey, feature history
Can you verify your channel as a "brave creator account" so i can support your channel?
Damn; incredible ad integration! 👏
And so.. the Qing Dynasty became the CCP and Korea's upper half is now called North Korea or... more like a subject of the CCP... history never changed...just different ideologies...
Will you make a video on Tibet and Taiwan too ? I like your channel it is very educative so I hope you can make a video on those two countries history too.
You had me scared for 5 seconds
Finally! A new video