Do you ever do something and look back and think, "gosh, I totally forgot"? Yup. If I redo this video I will include the major role that shintoism had in Japan. Thanks for watching.
Silver surfer, The prevailing theory is that the earliest migration came from Manchuria (although Mongolians also transited through Manchuria before moving down into the Korean Peninsula. And while at that time Manchuria may not have represented the Han Chinese (I may or may not be correct in this), today the area of Manchuria is largely within modern China...to which I was referring. Interestingly, it would be the Manchurians who would later take over China as part of the Qing dynasty. Thanks for caring enough to post.
@@rueschhoffteaches Hmm.. I think it is more appropriate to mention manchuria rather than china. It can ne misunderstood that koreans came from ancient chinese nation instead of modern day china today. Anyway, thanks for the reply!☺
@@silversurfer2977 You are right. It will make misunderstandings to others.However, as Chinese, we think Manchuria is also China, so this TH-camr is not wrong, but can be more clearly .Maybe it can be said like , from northeastern China (aka Manchuria). Just as your suggestion.
@@rueschhoffteaches , please change China to Moglia , it's not even chinese want to be linked with korean , but every time there are people say korean with China or chinese or something , they will start attack Chinese ,and pretend it's chinese who want to be korean ,
In relative genetic distance, Koreans are closer to Chinese than the Vietnamese. Koreans are especially close to prehistoric and modern Northeastern Chinese as they derive a major genetic component originating from Western Liao River of Northeastern China. However, Koreans also share distant connection to Vietnamese. Koreans are as a mix between DevilsGate Neo-Siberian and Southern East Asians. While Han's Southern East Asian ancestry is Oakaie from Burma or Himalayas foot. Korean Southern East Asian component is Vat Komnou associated with Iron Age Cambodians. Vat Komnou are possibly Para-Austroasiatic people. Suggesting Koreans have some distant connection to Austro-Asiatic people including Vietnamese. Y-Haplogroup O1b2 found among Koreans is distantly related to O1b1 found among Vietnamese and other Austro-Asiatic speaking people. It might have distant connections to para-austroasiatic people. Vat Komnou migrants first mixed with Southern Chinese before diffusing into Korean peninsular. This suggests that the genetic components of South Chinese were transferred into Korea after admixing with Vat Komnou and Nui Nap ancestries [1] Aside from this, there is also minor Austronesian genetic influence on Korean. But this admixture is very distant, so Koreans are overall closer to Chinese and Neo-Siberians based on autosomal DNA. Several Esi and EAb populations, such as Korean, Japanese and several Chinese (Hezen, and She), and Russian (Ulchi) ethnic group, still had dominant genetic contributions from Devil’s Gate compared with Oakaie and Nui Nap ancients. Contrary to popular beliefs, Koreans aren't the closest to Mongolians in East Asia. They are only closer to Mongolian than Southern Chinese but they are as close to Mongolians as the Japanese and Northern Chinese. The groups that are closest to Mongols genetically are Chinese from Gansu, Qinghai and Ningxia. Mongols derive a portion of ancestry from Yellow River near to Loess Plateau while they have less West Liao River ancestry. The Chinese from Gansu are also the least mixed with Austronesians among all East Asians. Due to their landlocked geography. They are genetically the most Northern shifted and most Western shifted, making them the closest East asians to Mongols and Turkic. Aside from inherent genetic relation, Northwest Chinese are the most mixed with Mongols. During Yuan Dynasty, they were the first to be invaded by Mongols and as a result intermixing with Turkic and Mongol groups happened. Many Hui Chinese from Northwest have Altaic related ancestry as a result of mixing with Turkic and Central Asian migrants during Yuan Empire.
🇨🇳The ancient Chinese created a splendid history and culture, and had a great influence on the culture of neighboring countries. So the Chinese have some sort of claim on the culture of Japan, Korea and Vietnam. 🇯🇵The rise of modern Japan and the success of cultural propaganda in the world made the Japanese have cultural confidence. Japanese people readily admit that Japanese culture comes from China and take pride in preserving and developing their own relatively unique Japanese culture. 🇰🇷Korea was a vassal state of China in ancient times and a Japanese colony in modern times. Koreans feel inferior for their ancient Korean history, which was subordinated to China, and envy Japanese achievements in the modern era. Therefore, in a strong sense of nationalism, Koreans always emphasize that the independent origins of Korean culture are different from Those of China, and claim that The achievements of Japanese culture are influenced by Korea. 🇻🇳Although Vietnam is located in Southeast Asia, Vietnamese people hate southeast Asian culture and yearn for East Asian culture. The Vietnamese always emphasize the close ties between Vietnamese culture and East Asian culture. On the surface, Vietnamese hated ancient Chinese colonization and invasion, but in their hearts, they were happy that the Chinese dynasty ruled Vietnam for a thousand years and spread Han culture. Some Vietnamese consider themselves of Chinese descent and feel superior to other Southeast Asian nations.
Chinese people are obsessed with inferiority Historically, the Han Chinese in China have always fled and have never won battles with other countries. The only countries established by the Han are the Song and Ming dynasties. China has no culture due to the Cultural Revolution, so it tries to take away the culture of other countries and denigrate it. But in reality, China only has beautiful nature and 1.4 billion cockroaches.Chinese people's feelings of inferiority also exist in sports. First of all, they play really dirty. However, in the case of soccer, they never made it to the World Cup finals. China calls neighboring countries America's dog, but in fact, China can call it America's dog. President Clinton of the United States They thought that if they opened up to China, they would abandon communism and the Chinese people would protest, but the savage Chinese did not find their freedom. We support independence of Hong Kong, Tibet, and Uyghurs. There is no hope for the Chinese. The reason is that they have been brainwashed by the Chinese government. The Chinese people make nuggets of scrap around the world and take comfort in them.
It's sad to see the Chinese. China calls its neighbor the dog of America, but in fact, China is the dog of the United States. US President Clinton thought that opening up to China would cause the Chinese to give up communism and protest against the government. But China's stupid 1.4 billion people have been brainwashed by the Chinese government They claim that the culture of a neighboring country is theirs, and claim that Corona belongs to another country.
Also, in Chinese history, the Song and Ming dynasties were the only countries ruled by the Han Chinese. They always run away from other peoples and fight other countries and do not win. Because of this, China feels inferior and distorts history. In order not to run away again, they target Tibet, Uyghurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Actually, I don't know why the Chinese are so proud. Poor life, oppression of freedom, control of the press, no insults to those in power
Okay, your word about Vietnam makes me confused. Firstly, Vietnamese people haven’t like Chinese in fact. Secondly, Vietnam was under China ruled about 1000 years, so Vietnamese used Chinese in the past is not a weird thing. Thirdly, in the Vietnamese heart, they didn’t like China at all. The customs and practices dating back to ancient times that the ancient Vietnamese have until now are still maintained, they are used to these customs and practices, so now they still naturally live like that. Fourthly and the most important thing, from ancient times to now, Vietnamese people in any era have considered China as an enemy. You don't know anything about Vietnamese so don't talk like you know all about them. Most Vietnamese people curse China every day, they also want their old customs and habits not to disappear. You don’t know about the Vietnamese more than the truth Vietnamese.
China certainly had strong cultural influences on many Asian area.. that is true but that doesn't mean that China can claim culture of other Asian countries and even China itself had been heavily influenced by its neighbors. Claiming not only neighbor's culture but also its territory and nationality because of certain historical relationship is called fascism. That is what Russian are doing these days.
This is why I think What if East Asia unified into one nation with Japan's or South Korea's highest democracy rating? This is why I always believe China, Mongolia, Taiwan, Korea, and Japan all must unify to Great East Asian Empire with Tokyo as the new unified national capital. I always love Japan as if I always think of East Asia as a Great Japanorea Empire.
@@williamdickson5696 No I am not! I am using such a positive example this entire unified East Asian nation deserve South Korea's, Taiwan's and Japan's highest possible democracy ratings. Think how China and North Korea deserves the highest full democracy rating. Believe in yourself anything is possible no matter what!
@sharptoothtrex4486 The Japanese tried on two occasions. One was the Imjin War and again on WW2! They're cruel when it come down to it. The Koreans as a colony of colonial Japan had it bad. So it sounds nice and all, but when it came down to it, the Japanese were quite cruel in their methods.
Talk about east asian culture and forget Vietnam lol ;RSEA dates back to 1946, when renowned China scholar John King Fairbank launched a full-time seminar leading to a master’s degree known as Regional Studies-China; the seminar was later expanded to include Japan, Korea, and Vietnam, and became the AM program known as Regional Studies-East Asia. Havard need to removed Vietnam lol same for sinosphere and so call other east asian culture group
Nga, Thanks for the thoughtful post. This is a great example of a discussion of what I teach my students as a Perceptual Region--which is a region that is determined by how people view an area. You are absolutely right that Vietnam can easily be placed in the East Asia region. The reason why I teach it as part of SEA is largely due to the other materials that I use in my classroom already have Vietnam in this region. Thus, I have made my video to more easily conform to existing materials. You'll notice I do the same with Myanmar/Burma. Some can argue that it should be taught in the South Asia region due to its colonial history with British India. But I teach it as part of SEA for different reasons of its culture. Anyway, loved your post and to some great extent, I agree with you. But I wanted to explain why I put it in the SEA region. Thanks.
@@rueschhoffteaches No. Fact ist fact. When it comes to culture, VN is part of EA. Your other materials cannot change this fact. Therefore, this lesson is missing at least 1/4 of its content.
@@rueschhoffteachesNo! No! No! You are a complete idiot because you didn’t share the history of when Southeast Asia cane about! If my memory serves me right, it was the British and American that came up with a term “Southeast Asia” to include every country (except fir Thailand) during World War 2 that was under Western colonialism. There was no Southeast Asia before WW2! Whoever granted you a diplomat to become a professor in geography must be a liar and con artist 😂
Anthropology major here. Just a correction. Korean ancestors did not migrate from China. The first proto-Koreans were horseriding warriors that came from Siberia, Manchuria, and Northern Korea. The early Chinese had a culture based on the plains they lived in while the early Koreans had a culture based on mounted warfare and living on the rugged and flat terrains of Korea and Manchuria. Modern genetic evidence sees that Chinese has more genetic similarity with Vietnamese and Thai people while Korea has more similarity to the Japanese due to Yayoi migrations from Korea to Japan around the 3rd century AD. And there is also evidence for the existence Gojoseon or "Old Joseon" in anthropological terms and archeological terms due to the proliferation of mandolin shaped daggers and bronze daggers that had a design unique to Korean states prior to the Three Kingdoms period of Korea. These artifacts were ritual tools that were carbon dated to around the 3rd millenium BC. And as for the languages. Korean and Chinese have always been different. This is why even during the ancient times, Koreans tried to created new writing systems like Idu and Hyangchal because of the agglunative nature of Korean. Korean and Chinese have never been related ever. They just had close proximity to each other, but they descended from two unique groups of people. Other than that, great video!
Han Chinese have more genetic similarity with Vietnamese and Tai and Mongol and Turk and Tibetan and Burmese and Austronesian at the same time than Korean dose , . The genetic distance of asian are corelated with geographic distance . But i do agree korean are siberian warriors and· Han chinese are river basin/plain famers in origin .Cheers
The Han were descended from a branch of neo-Siberians/Northeast Asians that settled at the Yellow River at least 9000 years go and became the proto-Sino-Tibetans. Around 7,000-8000 years ago one population split off into the west to develop into the Tibeto-Burmans while the ones that remained at the Yellow River became Sinitic.
for Koreans, the Han Chinese actually share a recent common ancestor with them dating back around 3000-4000 years ago. This is around the time of the Shang so their common ancestors were probably those eastern Siberians who lived around the Liao River. There has also been direct gene flow from the Han Chinese into the Korean population but not much Korean influence on the Han. Not too surprising since China held a dominant cultural position over Korea and Chinese families had settled in Korea over many centuries. Though the Chinese gene flow into Korea is nowhere near as great as what Vietnam experienced. The Vietnamese received so much genetic impact from the Han Chinese over the course of 2000 years (with half of that being spent as a literal part of China), the Vietnamese hardly phenotypically or culturally resemble their Hoabinhian ancestors at all. They are the Southeast Asian ethnic group with by far the most Northeast Asian ancestry, but the Vietnamese continue to speak an Austroasiatic language which is very Southeast Asian. Out of all the extant language families in Southeast Asia, Austroasiatic has had a presence in the SEA region for the longest.
so many Koreans seem unaware of this, or are in denial of having any Southeast Asian-related ancestry even though Koreans are clearly physically different from modern day Siberians. Despite Koreans living in a more northerly position than the Han, the Koreans actually acquired the Southeast Asian components of their ancestry before the Han Chinese did. Like please, the rice you eat was spread to you by your Southeast Asian ancestors, and all Northeast Asians ultimately derive from Southeast Asians because the southern half of Asia was populated first.
In relative genetic distance, Koreans are closer to Chinese than the Vietnamese. Koreans are especially close to prehistoric and modern Northeastern Chinese as they derive a major genetic component originating from Western Liao River of Northeastern China. However, Koreans also share distant connection to Vietnamese. Koreans are as a mix between DevilsGate Neo-Siberian and Southern East Asians. While Han's Southern East Asian ancestry is Oakaie from Burma or Himalayas foot. Korean Southern East Asian component is Vat Komnou associated with Iron Age Cambodians. Vat Komnou are possibly Para-Austroasiatic people. Suggesting Koreans have some distant connection to Austro-Asiatic people including Vietnamese. Y-Haplogroup O1b2 found among Koreans is distantly related to O1b1 found among Vietnamese and other Austro-Asiatic speaking people. It might have distant connections to para-austroasiatic people. Vat Komnou migrants first mixed with Southern Chinese before diffusing into Korean peninsular. This suggests that the genetic components of South Chinese were transferred into Korea after admixing with Vat Komnou and Nui Nap ancestries [1] Aside from this, there is also minor Austronesian genetic influence on Korean. But this admixture is very distant, so Koreans are overall closer to Chinese and Neo-Siberians based on autosomal DNA. Several Esi and EAb populations, such as Korean, Japanese and several Chinese (Hezen, and She), and Russian (Ulchi) ethnic group, still had dominant genetic contributions from Devil’s Gate compared with Oakaie and Nui Nap ancients. Contrary to popular beliefs, Koreans aren't the closest to Mongolians in East Asia. They are only closer to Mongolian than Southern Chinese but they are as close to Mongolians as the Japanese and Northern Chinese. The groups that are closest to Mongols genetically are Chinese from Gansu, Qinghai and Ningxia. Mongols derive a portion of ancestry from Yellow River near to Loess Plateau while they have less West Liao River ancestry. The Chinese from Gansu are also the least mixed with Austronesians among all East Asians. Due to their landlocked geography. They are genetically the most Northern shifted and most Western shifted, making them the closest East asians to Mongols and Turkic. Aside from inherent genetic relation, Northwest Chinese are the most mixed with Mongols. During Yuan Dynasty, they were the first to be invaded by Mongols and as a result intermixing with Turkic and Mongol groups happened. Many Hui Chinese from Northwest have Altaic related ancestry as a result of mixing with Turkic and Central Asian migrants during Yuan Empire.
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@@rueschhoffteaches im a filipino po salamat
U are learning about the culture of east asia
I have a question, were the Chinese or Mongolians the first “East Asian”? As in slant eyes, light skin, etc. Or elsewhere
Hi, I know you didn't explain this, but how influential was the shinto religion in the development of Japan? Thank you
Do you ever do something and look back and think, "gosh, I totally forgot"? Yup. If I redo this video I will include the major role that shintoism had in Japan. Thanks for watching.
FYI: Xia is pronounced like Shaw (George Bernard Shaw) not with the 'ow' sound you're using here.
Thanks for the correction. Unfortunately, Chinese is not the only language I manage to butcher! ;-)
Are you sure majority of koreans were migrants from china? I thought Koreans originated in northern tribes.
Silver surfer,
The prevailing theory is that the earliest migration came from Manchuria (although Mongolians also transited through Manchuria before moving down into the Korean Peninsula. And while at that time Manchuria may not have represented the Han Chinese (I may or may not be correct in this), today the area of Manchuria is largely within modern China...to which I was referring. Interestingly, it would be the Manchurians who would later take over China as part of the Qing dynasty.
Thanks for caring enough to post.
@@rueschhoffteaches Hmm.. I think it is more appropriate to mention manchuria rather than china. It can ne misunderstood that koreans came from ancient chinese nation instead of modern day china today.
Anyway, thanks for the reply!☺
@@silversurfer2977 You are right. It will make misunderstandings to others.However, as Chinese, we think Manchuria is also China, so this TH-camr is not wrong, but can be more clearly .Maybe it can be said like , from northeastern China (aka Manchuria). Just as your suggestion.
@@rueschhoffteaches , please change China to Moglia , it's not even chinese want to be linked with korean , but every time there are people say korean with China or chinese or something , they will start attack Chinese ,and pretend it's chinese who want to be korean ,
In relative genetic distance, Koreans are closer to Chinese than the Vietnamese. Koreans are especially close to prehistoric and modern Northeastern Chinese as they derive a major genetic component originating from Western Liao River of Northeastern China.
However, Koreans also share distant connection to Vietnamese. Koreans are as a mix between DevilsGate Neo-Siberian and Southern East Asians.
While Han's Southern East Asian ancestry is Oakaie from Burma or Himalayas foot. Korean Southern East Asian component is Vat Komnou associated with Iron Age Cambodians. Vat Komnou are possibly Para-Austroasiatic people. Suggesting Koreans have some distant connection to Austro-Asiatic people including Vietnamese.
Y-Haplogroup O1b2 found among Koreans is distantly related to O1b1 found among Vietnamese and other Austro-Asiatic speaking people. It might have distant connections to para-austroasiatic people.
Vat Komnou migrants first mixed with Southern Chinese before diffusing into Korean peninsular.
This suggests that the genetic components of South Chinese were transferred into Korea after admixing with Vat Komnou and Nui Nap ancestries [1]
Aside from this, there is also minor Austronesian genetic influence on Korean. But this admixture is very distant, so Koreans are overall closer to Chinese and Neo-Siberians based on autosomal DNA.
Several Esi and EAb populations, such as Korean, Japanese and several Chinese (Hezen, and She), and Russian (Ulchi) ethnic group, still had dominant genetic contributions from Devil’s Gate compared with Oakaie and Nui Nap ancients.
Contrary to popular beliefs, Koreans aren't the closest to Mongolians in East Asia. They are only closer to Mongolian than Southern Chinese but they are as close to Mongolians as the Japanese and Northern Chinese.
The groups that are closest to Mongols genetically are Chinese from Gansu, Qinghai and Ningxia. Mongols derive a portion of ancestry from Yellow River near to Loess Plateau while they have less West Liao River ancestry.
The Chinese from Gansu are also the least mixed with Austronesians among all East Asians. Due to their landlocked geography. They are genetically the most Northern shifted and most Western shifted, making them the closest East asians to Mongols and Turkic.
Aside from inherent genetic relation, Northwest Chinese are the most mixed with Mongols. During Yuan Dynasty, they were the first to be invaded by Mongols and as a result intermixing with Turkic and Mongol groups happened. Many Hui Chinese from Northwest have Altaic related ancestry as a result of mixing with Turkic and Central Asian migrants during Yuan Empire.
🇨🇳The ancient Chinese created a splendid history and culture, and had a great influence on the culture of neighboring countries. So the Chinese have some sort of claim on the culture of Japan, Korea and Vietnam.
🇯🇵The rise of modern Japan and the success of cultural propaganda in the world made the Japanese have cultural confidence. Japanese people readily admit that Japanese culture comes from China and take pride in preserving and developing their own relatively unique Japanese culture.
🇰🇷Korea was a vassal state of China in ancient times and a Japanese colony in modern times. Koreans feel inferior for their ancient Korean history, which was subordinated to China, and envy Japanese achievements in the modern era. Therefore, in a strong sense of nationalism, Koreans always emphasize that the independent origins of Korean culture are different from Those of China, and claim that The achievements of Japanese culture are influenced by Korea.
🇻🇳Although Vietnam is located in Southeast Asia, Vietnamese people hate southeast Asian culture and yearn for East Asian culture. The Vietnamese always emphasize the close ties between Vietnamese culture and East Asian culture. On the surface, Vietnamese hated ancient Chinese colonization and invasion, but in their hearts, they were happy that the Chinese dynasty ruled Vietnam for a thousand years and spread Han culture. Some Vietnamese consider themselves of Chinese descent and feel superior to other Southeast Asian nations.
Chinese people are obsessed with inferiority Historically, the Han Chinese in China have always fled and have never won battles with other countries. The only countries established by the Han are the Song and Ming dynasties. China has no culture due to the Cultural Revolution, so it tries to take away the culture of other countries and denigrate it. But in reality, China only has beautiful nature and 1.4 billion cockroaches.Chinese people's feelings of inferiority also exist in sports. First of all, they play really dirty. However, in the case of soccer, they never made it to the World Cup finals. China calls neighboring countries America's dog, but in fact, China can call it America's dog. President Clinton of the United States They thought that if they opened up to China, they would abandon communism and the Chinese people would protest, but the savage Chinese did not find their freedom. We support independence of Hong Kong, Tibet, and Uyghurs. There is no hope for the Chinese. The reason is that they have been brainwashed by the Chinese government. The Chinese people make nuggets of scrap around the world and take comfort in them.
It's sad to see the Chinese. China calls its neighbor the dog of America, but in fact, China is the dog of the United States.
US President Clinton thought that opening up to China would cause the Chinese to give up communism and protest against the government. But China's stupid 1.4 billion people have been brainwashed by the Chinese government
They claim that the culture of a neighboring country is theirs, and claim that Corona belongs to another country.
Also, in Chinese history, the Song and Ming dynasties were the only countries ruled by the Han Chinese. They always run away from other peoples and fight other countries and do not win. Because of this, China feels inferior and distorts history. In order not to run away again, they target Tibet, Uyghurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Actually, I don't know why the Chinese are so proud.
Poor life, oppression of freedom, control of the press, no insults to those in power
Okay, your word about Vietnam makes me confused. Firstly, Vietnamese people haven’t like Chinese in fact. Secondly, Vietnam was under China ruled about 1000 years, so Vietnamese used Chinese in the past is not a weird thing. Thirdly, in the Vietnamese heart, they didn’t like China at all. The customs and practices dating back to ancient times that the ancient Vietnamese have until now are still maintained, they are used to these customs and practices, so now they still naturally live like that. Fourthly and the most important thing, from ancient times to now, Vietnamese people in any era have considered China as an enemy. You don't know anything about Vietnamese so don't talk like you know all about them. Most Vietnamese people curse China every day, they also want their old customs and habits not to disappear. You don’t know about the Vietnamese more than the truth Vietnamese.
China certainly had strong cultural influences on many Asian area.. that is true but that doesn't mean that China can claim culture of other Asian countries and even China itself had been heavily influenced by its neighbors.
Claiming not only neighbor's culture but also its territory and nationality because of certain historical relationship is called fascism. That is what Russian are doing these days.
This is why I think What if East Asia unified into one nation with Japan's or South Korea's highest democracy rating? This is why I always believe China, Mongolia, Taiwan, Korea, and Japan all must unify to Great East Asian Empire with Tokyo as the new unified national capital. I always love Japan as if I always think of East Asia as a Great Japanorea Empire.
Yes Asia should unit as one Nation I have always Loved Asian Culture ❤️
And food 😋
...대동아 지지하는 일뽕주의자? 매우 편향적인 폭력성향을 띄는듯합니다.
그건 대부분의 역사 범죄를 지지하는 일아닙니까?(잘못 인식했다면 죄송합니다)
are you joking?
@@williamdickson5696 No I am not! I am using such a positive example this entire unified East Asian nation deserve South Korea's, Taiwan's and Japan's highest possible democracy ratings. Think how China and North Korea deserves the highest full democracy rating. Believe in yourself anything is possible no matter what!
@sharptoothtrex4486 The Japanese tried on two occasions. One was the Imjin War and again on WW2! They're cruel when it come down to it. The Koreans as a colony of colonial Japan had it bad.
So it sounds nice and all, but when it came down to it, the Japanese were quite cruel in their methods.
Talk about east asian culture and forget Vietnam lol ;RSEA dates back to 1946, when renowned China scholar John King Fairbank launched a full-time seminar leading to a master’s degree known as Regional Studies-China; the seminar was later expanded to include Japan, Korea, and Vietnam, and became the AM program known as Regional Studies-East Asia. Havard need to removed Vietnam lol same for sinosphere and so call other east asian culture group
Nga,
Thanks for the thoughtful post. This is a great example of a discussion of what I teach my students as a Perceptual Region--which is a region that is determined by how people view an area. You are absolutely right that Vietnam can easily be placed in the East Asia region.
The reason why I teach it as part of SEA is largely due to the other materials that I use in my classroom already have Vietnam in this region. Thus, I have made my video to more easily conform to existing materials.
You'll notice I do the same with Myanmar/Burma. Some can argue that it should be taught in the South Asia region due to its colonial history with British India. But I teach it as part of SEA for different reasons of its culture.
Anyway, loved your post and to some great extent, I agree with you. But I wanted to explain why I put it in the SEA region.
Thanks.
@@rueschhoffteaches No. Fact ist fact. When it comes to culture, VN is part of EA. Your other materials cannot change this fact. Therefore, this lesson is missing at least 1/4 of its content.
@@rueschhoffteachesNo! No! No! You are a complete idiot because you didn’t share the history of when Southeast Asia cane about! If my memory serves me right, it was the British and American that came up with a term “Southeast Asia” to include every country (except fir Thailand) during World War 2 that was under Western colonialism. There was no Southeast Asia before WW2! Whoever granted you a diplomat to become a professor in geography must be a liar and con artist 😂
Anthropology major here. Just a correction. Korean ancestors did not migrate from China. The first proto-Koreans were horseriding warriors that came from Siberia, Manchuria, and Northern Korea. The early Chinese had a culture based on the plains they lived in while the early Koreans had a culture based on mounted warfare and living on the rugged and flat terrains of Korea and Manchuria. Modern genetic evidence sees that Chinese has more genetic similarity with Vietnamese and Thai people while Korea has more similarity to the Japanese due to Yayoi migrations from Korea to Japan around the 3rd century AD. And there is also evidence for the existence Gojoseon or "Old Joseon" in anthropological terms and archeological terms due to the proliferation of mandolin shaped daggers and bronze daggers that had a design unique to Korean states prior to the Three Kingdoms period of Korea. These artifacts were ritual tools that were carbon dated to around the 3rd millenium BC. And as for the languages. Korean and Chinese have always been different. This is why even during the ancient times, Koreans tried to created new writing systems like Idu and Hyangchal because of the agglunative nature of Korean. Korean and Chinese have never been related ever. They just had close proximity to each other, but they descended from two unique groups of people. Other than that, great video!
Han Chinese have more genetic similarity with Vietnamese and Tai and Mongol and Turk and Tibetan and Burmese and Austronesian at the same time than Korean dose , . The genetic distance of asian are corelated with geographic distance . But i do agree korean are siberian warriors and· Han chinese are river basin/plain famers in origin .Cheers
The Han were descended from a branch of neo-Siberians/Northeast Asians that settled at the Yellow River at least 9000 years go and became the proto-Sino-Tibetans. Around 7,000-8000 years ago one population split off into the west to develop into the Tibeto-Burmans while the ones that remained at the Yellow River became Sinitic.
for Koreans, the Han Chinese actually share a recent common ancestor with them dating back around 3000-4000 years ago. This is around the time of the Shang so their common ancestors were probably those eastern Siberians who lived around the Liao River. There has also been direct gene flow from the Han Chinese into the Korean population but not much Korean influence on the Han.
Not too surprising since China held a dominant cultural position over Korea and Chinese families had settled in Korea over many centuries. Though the Chinese gene flow into Korea is nowhere near as great as what Vietnam experienced.
The Vietnamese received so much genetic impact from the Han Chinese over the course of 2000 years (with half of that being spent as a literal part of China), the Vietnamese hardly phenotypically or culturally resemble their Hoabinhian ancestors at all. They are the Southeast Asian ethnic group with by far the most Northeast Asian ancestry, but the Vietnamese continue to speak an Austroasiatic language which is very Southeast Asian. Out of all the extant language families in Southeast Asia, Austroasiatic has had a presence in the SEA region for the longest.
so many Koreans seem unaware of this, or are in denial of having any Southeast Asian-related ancestry even though Koreans are clearly physically different from modern day Siberians. Despite Koreans living in a more northerly position than the Han, the Koreans actually acquired the Southeast Asian components of their ancestry before the Han Chinese did.
Like please, the rice you eat was spread to you by your Southeast Asian ancestors, and all Northeast Asians ultimately derive from Southeast Asians because the southern half of Asia was populated first.
In relative genetic distance, Koreans are closer to Chinese than the Vietnamese. Koreans are especially close to prehistoric and modern Northeastern Chinese as they derive a major genetic component originating from Western Liao River of Northeastern China.
However, Koreans also share distant connection to Vietnamese. Koreans are as a mix between DevilsGate Neo-Siberian and Southern East Asians.
While Han's Southern East Asian ancestry is Oakaie from Burma or Himalayas foot. Korean Southern East Asian component is Vat Komnou associated with Iron Age Cambodians. Vat Komnou are possibly Para-Austroasiatic people. Suggesting Koreans have some distant connection to Austro-Asiatic people including Vietnamese.
Y-Haplogroup O1b2 found among Koreans is distantly related to O1b1 found among Vietnamese and other Austro-Asiatic speaking people. It might have distant connections to para-austroasiatic people.
Vat Komnou migrants first mixed with Southern Chinese before diffusing into Korean peninsular.
This suggests that the genetic components of South Chinese were transferred into Korea after admixing with Vat Komnou and Nui Nap ancestries [1]
Aside from this, there is also minor Austronesian genetic influence on Korean. But this admixture is very distant, so Koreans are overall closer to Chinese and Neo-Siberians based on autosomal DNA.
Several Esi and EAb populations, such as Korean, Japanese and several Chinese (Hezen, and She), and Russian (Ulchi) ethnic group, still had dominant genetic contributions from Devil’s Gate compared with Oakaie and Nui Nap ancients.
Contrary to popular beliefs, Koreans aren't the closest to Mongolians in East Asia. They are only closer to Mongolian than Southern Chinese but they are as close to Mongolians as the Japanese and Northern Chinese.
The groups that are closest to Mongols genetically are Chinese from Gansu, Qinghai and Ningxia. Mongols derive a portion of ancestry from Yellow River near to Loess Plateau while they have less West Liao River ancestry.
The Chinese from Gansu are also the least mixed with Austronesians among all East Asians. Due to their landlocked geography. They are genetically the most Northern shifted and most Western shifted, making them the closest East asians to Mongols and Turkic.
Aside from inherent genetic relation, Northwest Chinese are the most mixed with Mongols. During Yuan Dynasty, they were the first to be invaded by Mongols and as a result intermixing with Turkic and Mongol groups happened. Many Hui Chinese from Northwest have Altaic related ancestry as a result of mixing with Turkic and Central Asian migrants during Yuan Empire.