The New GPD Win Mini Transforms Into A 1440P AAA Gaming PC! Oculink 7600M XT
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- In This video we Pair the all new GPD Win Mini Handheld Gaming PC up with The GPD G1 RX 7600M XT eGPU to make a powerful AAA 1440P Gaming PC! Powered bu=y the Ryzen 7840U the GPD win Mini By Itself is an awesome handheld but GPD also added an Oculink Port so we can make it even better with an eGPU! It even Runs Starfield and Cyberpunk 2077 at 1440P!
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I didn't even think this was possible, how is that card communicating with the motherboard fast enough thru a tiny cable... This is amazing maybe we can do this with laptops in the near future
You must be new here xD, external GPUs over various different bus types have been used for over a decade and have been consumer friendly since 2016…
@@BahhBahhBrownSheep I was going to get an external GPU to boost my laptop a few years back but the performance improvement was weak because the cable couldn't transmit enough data
@@kyledupont7711 This interface (oculink) actually has less bandwidth than the previous thunderbolt 3 and 4 alternatives you speak of. It just does it over a different kind of bus which handles GPUs better.
@@BahhBahhBrownSheep you must be new here. oculink has higher bandwidth than thunderbolt 3 or 4.
Im thinking of getting one for camping. Breakfast Griddle / TV combo is a new and exciting use case.
Yo what is your job
@@seanmoist5418 I'm a tax paying legitimate business man who likes to goof off as much as possible 😉
Don't forget portable space heater for those chilly nights.
@@glennshoemake4200 Great point! Such a versatile device
bruh you gonna use it as a plate? (Joke)
Yo ETA. Have you had any issues with the heat in the device while using in handheld? The Phawx's gets up to around 60c around the buttons and d-pad. seems like the perfect handheld otherwise.
etaprime tested devices never overheat or throttle🙄
and all are dead silent too
You cant expect ETA to talk about those negatives. His job is to hype up products for the companies to sell. He's just a glorified tech influencer. He's great for general info but I wouldn't rely on his recommendation if you actually want to purchase a product.
Overheat and throttle is not the issue. The issue is consumer comfort. 58C on the fingers is too hot.
That isn't really overheating, 90+degrees is overheating. The other guy is right when he just says it is user comfort
I wonder if someone has tried to do streaming with this type of set up, it's perfect for a traveler
A vesa mount for the eGPU would be neat. Still twice the FPS of console! and faster loading times too. Pretty sweet combo that!
But consoles are far cheaper and provide a better and seamless gaming experience. There's no denying that.
@@XsaviXanderskill issue
Better how? Seamless what does that even mean?
@@XsaviXander But you can use this mini pc for work which makes it more useful for everyday life than just playing games.
Little heads up that setup actually kicks my 2080 and 9900k in starfield
That dock is crazy
I would love to see a 7640u emulation video
Hey ETA , loving the videos that you do. Keep up the good work.
We've gotten to the point where the graphics cards are bigger & more expensive than the rest of the computer combined.
I just built a new PC. The 4090 was 1,800USD, the rest of the build was 1,600USD
It also will function as a fire starter when you’re camping.
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im curious about the difference in performance of the mini with oculink to a 4070, 4080, 4090. would the cpu bottleneck make it so there's barely any difference?
Would love to see RX 7600 M XT setup on HP Elitedesk mini or Dell Optiplex mini via m.2 to Oculink adapter.
I can buy 2 gaming laptop at that price lol
@@N_N23296 lol yeah. It is small and powerful
You can buy a gaming laptop for 700 USD?
And buy 2 instead. Lol
@@XzaroX yeah it'll run on dog water and have potato scraps for components
I would love to see a high end video card connected to it over OCuLink, to see if the CPU can keep up in 4K gaming. I am also curious how much you lose over desktop, as I am considering using this as my everything PC (With a 7900XT)
Running games in 4K doesn't take much CPU power. Unless you want to play in high FPS. Then, it takes a lot of CPU power no matter the resolution. But you're most likely not going to be doing that anyway.
@@191. Yea, I am more interested in seeing if the OCuLink causes loss in performance, over native PCIe
@@TheRealMafoooculink offers up to 60 gigabytes per second so only 4 gigabytes slower than pcie 4.0 I'd say the performance difference will be negligible on the newest graphics cards and invisible on older ones.
He already made a video about that very gpu you mention
Check his video title um790xtx or something
OCuLink is native PCIe, but just for external cabling purpose. no overhead due to PCIe tunneling like TB protocol. and GPD uses 4 lane of OCuLink. (as I know, max 8 lane)
Hey @Eta, is it possible for you to do a follow up video on how to set this device up for first time users? Thanks.
This tech just makes me wonder what Nintendo will do for their next console. Ever since the Switch came out Handheld PC's and EGPU's have come a long way in making a hybrid gaming machine akin to a switch on crack. I hope this makes them realize they have to bring their A game for the Switch successor.
they won’t
Nintendo has been doing computers (consoles) for a few decades now, but they are still fundamentally a toy company. What they're going to have to do to compete is make sure to be significantly cheaper than everyone else, because otherwise, their only real selling point is exclusive titles, specifically Mario and Zelda (and we all know how that worked out for Sonic when Sega could no longer compete in the hardware market). They're never going to be on the cutting edge of computer technology. As a toy company, they're in the business of gimmicks, and innovative peripherals probably won't be enough, because most people are happy with an X-box controller equivalent as alternative to keyboard and mouse, maybe with an additional trackpad or optical sensor for first person shooters. Nintendo's role in the market may have to be the affordable toy alternative that can be sold to parents, semi-casual gamers and people who can afford to buy multiple pieces of hardware.
As long as Nintendo can find a way to stay in that pocket, they'll be okay. The question is whether it will be worth it for Sony and Microsoft to keep making consoles.
Lmao. They will put out console with specs already outdated at launch (like pretty much all of their consoles except N64), but it doesn't matter because fanboys will scoop it up anyway.
@@Fadexpl The reason the N64 happened in the first place was because Sega of America pushed for the development of the technology but Sega of Japan weren't interested, so Silicon Graphics went to Nintendo with it. Nintendo saying yes was somewhat out of character, because they very much have a philosophy of avoiding the latest tech (although to be fair, by the time the N64 came out, I'm pretty sure there were arcade machines that had higher specs; they would just have been too expensive for the consumer market). But they still stuck with cartridges instead of switching to CD-ROM, for fear of piracy. The N64 *was* in some ways outdated on release. And Nintendo would not consider that a failure on their part, because they're not a tech company, they're a toy company.
Nintendo is not in the business of providing an alternative to PC gaming. That's what Microsoft does to grab more of the market (Mac users, people with low-end PC's, parents with disposable income, etc), and what Sony does to compete with Microsoft. Having top of the line specs isn't part of Nintendo's business model. They're in the business of producing marketable toys for a wide market, that are fun to play with, and specifically opt for lower end hardware in order to keep costs down.
If anything, Nintendo at this point is pretty close to only competing with emulation, which is probably why they're cracking down so hard on it.
The next Nintendo will be less powerful than this and still sell more than 1000x as many units.
i want one 🤘
can you test games that has like gyro aiming?
I’m surprised he hasn’t gotten his hands on the Lenovo legion go.
Im curious what the 7600M XT compares to on the desktop gpu side.
in between a 3070mobile and a 3080 mobile
or between a RTX 3050 desktop and a RTX 3060 desktop.
@@dzibanart8521 Not bad but expensive
Its better than a 3060 desktop
mine works with the screen closed, you have to plug it up while turned on and closed though
Absolutely amazing...
Im in ICU with 3rd degree burns right now after running this device at 200 watts playing pacman at 4k
Hey, what about CPU temps? Is there any fan noise while it's connected to the eGPU?
Hello ETA, loving the content! I was wondering if you have tested Valorant on any of the GPD devices with or without the oculink. Valorant's anti-cheat blocks some E-gpus and i've heard it has blocked so GPD devices as well. I'd love to know if it works and how well it works. I'm a full time traveler and I'm thinking of swapping out my heavy Laptop for a GPD device and a portable monitor.
Here I am still waiting for gpd g1 to arrive... eta October😢
Some of you guys suggestions and requests you ask of this man are really silly. Boss up and buy one and do what you want with it.
Thank you!!
Wish they made a nvidia version
Oculink - kool
the $700 looks nice.
Please do a test with two Club3D CSV-7300 to drive 6 2560x1600 monitors from this tiny package.
I hope I would be able to afford such a toy later. But it will be powered by ryzen 9000 or 10000
I can already hear the fan noise 😂
why aren't you talking about how this thing runs so hot?
Where did you get that wallpaper? Looked but only found still frame not moveable!!
man amd sold so much 7840u that they facing chip shortage lol
One question should be simple. Ray tracing in any games. Yes or no?
How mouch does all this coast compare to build a pc
So what's your opinion between the clam style for the pad style
do a comparison video
what happens when one unplugs the graphics card and going to the toilet with the handheld?
Is it possible to use it with a thin and light intel evo laptop with thunderbolt 4.
So why would you not show the CPU temps too...
Can you show Starfield on the Nucx i7
Hey ETA, thanks for your perfect videos ! Do you see any difference between oculink and USB4 running on an external monitor ? Ofcourse theres a bottleneck with the intern screen, but it shouldnt matter much on an external screen connected to the G1!
saw a video on win4 compared both usb4 vs oculink. usb4 losses somewhere 20-33% of oculink could offer
Debating between this and ROG Ally...
I wonder if will be in the future the laptops with OCUlink-2 (SFF-8611) 80 pin. so it will be PCIEx8 or not
ETA is this the device to get for everything? Triple A games, emulation, etc?
How are the 1% and 0.1% lows?
We need the same in Nvidia
Newbie question, can I run Arcade style games from the 70's & 80's? Dragons Lair? Thx John
I wish they made a 13" laptop with these features. Not sure how big is a market for handhelds, but a laptop that is so good for eGPU use when home would surely be a good buy
@@N_N2329613" is not a big screen, it is ultrabook size. I don't need a gaming laptop on the way, I need a small format that would later become the gaming rig when plugged to eGPU at home
Check out the Asus X13 Flow and the accompanying eGPU ROG XG Mobile
Gets very hot at 13W
Eta! I'm planning to buy this external Video dock. Wich small AMD mini pc do you suggest that has oculink port built in ?
So how much is this set up the handheld plus the separate driver? You didn't mention..
Have you tried the onex? Which one is better?
I imagine this setup will be similar to the switch 2. If not, then nintendo dun fuked up
please test on a nexdock..
And remember: Xbox Series X has RX 6600 XT level of GPU performance... This handheld should have similar performance.
Way faster cpu though, more ram, faster nvme.
I think the Series X has a desktop GPU with better cooling and the G1 has a laptop GPU
I'm interested in the 64 gig 4 TB model myself... At the same time I'm probably better off wait until the ryzen 9 comes. Still I really like it and I feel like 1200 bucks ain't that much for what you get.
there is no 4 TB model...the max storage for 2230 nvme is 2 TB
@@FS-zt6tm there is... it's 2x2tb I believe. $1156 also 64g scroll down to the bottom on the right of the indiegogo page
If you're already considering waiting I would just wait for handhelds to come out with one of the rumored upcoming AMD chips with 16 cores and 40 CUs. That thing will be a beast and will likely beat the Xbox series S in terms of performance. Especially if they have a plugged in mode with much higher wattage like gaming laptops have.
@@GhostAcez is that strix point?
@FS-zt6tm Yes, the "Strix point halo" specifically. It sounds like it could be basically like a PS5 level of performance given the specs on the GPU are similar to the PS5, but obviously, it will have slower ram and use way less wattage which is why I said series s level of performance. It should be significantly more powerful than the series s though because that console already generally draws not much power for a console and the "strix point halo" is rumored to have double the cpu cores and double the gpu compute units. If companies let you feed that thing like 50 watts or so, it should literally be able to replace entry-level gaming laptops, honestly.
Can I use it with a Msi Gaming laptop? Actually i have a old gaming laptop with nvidia 1070 graphics card. Can I use gpd g1 with this laptop?
If it has a oculink, yes. If you only have a thunderbolt or usb the performance won't be as good.
Hey Prime, Does any of these GPD devices support steamos natively? It says they do on the website but does it really?
how many watts does this setup pull minus the monitor?
is it possibile to run it with the oculink eGPU and ChimeraOS?
I need to know this too!? I guess it will depend on how far advanced the amd drivers are on linux, but hopefully it should be pretty much plug and play, isn’t oculink directly supporting pcie protocols?
Can the oculink linked to another gaming device like steam deck or asus rog ally
Have you tried thunderbolt 4 and Oculink together to see 40giga plus 60giga = 100giga speed?
No, thunderbolt is proprietary with proprietary protocols, oculink is an open adapter interface for external pci-e by pci-sig. Intel already has plans for thunderbolt 5, up to 80 Gbps.
It doesn't work like that with both connected the eGPU is allocated all of the Oculink Bandwidth while the ports on the Dock take advantage of the Thunderbolt connection. This is actually the best way to use the GPD G1 Dock with both the Oculink and USB4 ports connected. Very decent 1440p desktop setup solution.
@@javierolavarriaHow much bandwidth do GPUs need right now? I'm wondering if 80gbs has headroom still or if it will already be blown past by the time thunderbolt 5 comes out
@@EnochGitongaKimathi oh I see, thanks 🙏🏿🙏🏻
@@javierolavarria thunderbolt is no longer proprietary. which is why AMD can use it now; it used to be a Intel only protocol, that being said, you can't use both at the same time, nor connect two thunderbolt 4 at the same time to "achieve" 80-Gbps that's not how computers work.
compared to xg mobile 2022 6850m xt , which one better ? gpd g1 org xg 2022?
How does this compare to my MSI Titan?
music game and emulating dev in bed 😊😊😊
Actually since the lenavo legion go has thunderbolt will the oculink be compatible?
No ! Thunderbolt has nothing to do with oculink 🤣
@@Ybm9000 actually gpd occulink egpu has a usb c port for thunderbolt 4 connection is what I was asking my bad for not listing what egpu
does this settings run Unity & UnrealEngine games?
Why isn't Ryzen 7840U available to buy for own projects? :( Not even Z1 Extreme..
Would be really cool to see them in socketable SKUs so you could make your own budget igpu builds like when the 5600G was the go to
@@BeefLettuceAndPotato Yeah, I have a idea I want to build, but don't feel like RPi is enough performance. :|
Of course ETA doesn't show the CPU temperatures... useless. Genuinely perplexing to see the lacking quality of some of these handheld youtubers.
Link to the PC u r testing in the vid kind of the only reason I clicked but guess I'll Google it instead thanks for nothing bye bye
Is this better then a.rog ally ?
Can I use the igpu on steam deck or laptop???
Steam deck has no oculink port.
kinda makes me wanna take cpu and slap it on the dock so the mini can be unplugged
i'll stick with 700 dollar SFF desktops
Are you not gonna mention that it runs like 90 celcius???????😂😂😂. Wtf. Omelette cooking device.....
That's why it's especially useful for camping 😂
How much for the whole setup?
he never talks about price
Cheaper than the Ally with a egpu
Costs around 25 cents
around 2.000 $
To me, that looks like a display Port. You're really not being too clear on that Can you give us a little bit more detail on that cable?
occulink. It's a pcie interface.
All the fake techies are coming from the Phawx with the fire jokes but have never used a mini pc device nor used the one in question in the real world .
idol
Hi, What CPU watts did you use for this docking mode and what is the highest it can take (while docked so not too bothered about the heat). Many thanks ETA
forgot to mention that out of the box the max TDP is 18Watts but you can change that in the BIOs. I don't know what the max TDP is.
Yeah, cant seem to find anyone testing max TDP in dock mode (for max performance)@@dzibanart8521
never understand these videos. Wow a $1000 handheld turns into a $700 laptop if you add a 500-1500$ enclosure and a 300-500$ monitor? Wow!
Why spend 2500$+ to get the same experience of a shitty dell gaming laptop.
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They should just integrate the GPU in the next one...obviously it would have to have larger battery and just be larger in general. I would also drop that keypad and just use touch.
Sounds like you’re looking for a dedicated gaming laptop
Just buy Asus ROG G14, if you want a gaming laptop.
that's stupid, that GPU will use the entire battery in 15 minutes or less, since it has a TDP if 75 - 120 Watt TGP plus produce too much heat for a device like this. it is a laptop GPU fore sure, but a gaming laptop, and you know how thicc those laptops get.
@@dzibanart8521You make great points but you are forgetting that he said the next one. Let's say that's two years from now. There's no reason this level of power won't be available in this exact form factor so he's really correct.
My commodore 64 destroys this thing
Nobody cares about the eGPU.
We care about handheld FPS on current AAA games, & whether it has sufficient cooling to play them handheld with reasonable performance & fidelity.
I care, a lot
Speak for yourself.
Yeah, actually I do care, about both use cases.
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All the cool tech I could play with lmao!
Jesus Christ, touch grass.