Off Roading Fail on a Triumph Street Scrambler
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ค. 2021
- I took the Triumph Street Scrambler Sandstorm off roading, to the exact same spot as I took the Mutt Mastiff 250.
You can see the Mutt Mastiff video here: • Sunset Off Roading wit...
I wanted to see how the Street Scrambler coped compared to the 250cc, 150kg Mutt, so I attempted a steep incline on the Street Scrambler that I managed to summit on the Mutt.
I learnt a few big lessons from this off road attempt!
I hope you enjoy the video and happy watching!:)
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You're like a big child! I was laughing so hard! I love it! :D Don't listen to Monica. Give us more off-roading!
Thanks TW!!😆
"I've no idea what I'm doing! I shouldn't have a bike licence!" Lol. I love your have-a-go attitude and your humility in the face of 'set backs', fella!
A great fun and useful video for others who don't know what they're doing, either, but might want to have a go anyway!
You've both encouraged and fore-warned hehe. Good mix. Well done, chap! Keep it up!
Thanks David!🙂
Respect Freddie, Glad you decided to showed the Vlog , and show what it's actually like to go off roading without proper tyres and especially with a heavy bike, Hats off to you Freddie for sticking with it and getting the bike out without a scratch.
This video was absolutely great. Too many people take themselves too seriously. You showed us that a beautiful bike that LOOKS like it was designed for off reading is actually not. And confirmed that dual sports tires are bad both on and off road. This is something lots of us have known for a while, but independent confirmation never hurts.
I agree that it's so refreshing seeing some self-deprecating content on You Tube - a platform largely associated with narcissism, armchair expertise and Dunning Kruger syndrome.
However, I do disagree with your generalisation about dual-sport tyres. Yes they can be a compromise either way, depends what ratio you choose, and some are found wanting on the road, but excel on the dirt, and vice versa, which is why you should choose carefully according to your needs. That said, their are some outstanding all round products out there - silica rich with incredible grip on the road, but come into their own even in extended and quite challenging off-road conditions. He's right though, unless you opt for 70-80% off road orientation, these dual sports tyres tend to be absolutely atrocious in the mud and sand.
@@yassassin6425 I am not trying to portray myself as a tyre expert. I’m not. I was just applying some common sense. Nothing can work well on and off road at the same time. Be it a bike or a tyre.
@@superleggenda
There are some that do strike a compromise which is obviously relative to the ability of and expectations of the rider and the conditions. In terms of extremities, of course not, I agree with you entirely, but there are some very advanced dual sport tyres out there.
Saying that, for serious off road excursions, three things are required. A lightweight purpose built MX/tirals/enduro motorcycle; proper off road tyres and tuition.
Ive seen the same bike do it with knobies with no issue doing it fast standing on the bike.
I think we're all glad you posted the video 🤗 Riding is about learning and experiencing hence the genuine joy that comes with it. It's not always easy though, and you nailed it, cause you shared it.
I'm hoping Triumph keeps trusting you with press bikes as they must know a honest review is good publicity too.
Keep up the great and inspiring work
Cheers
Really appreciate it, thanks Seb!!
Totally agree Seb
Priceless content! Thank you for what you do. And to Triumph, please go easy on this man.
Thanks Gerald!😆
This was hilarious, well done… Real dirt and dual sport tires don’t mix. To ride on slopes you need more speed at the bottom, to get used to that, you need more practice on smaller dirt bikes. Again a great video
When ever I want to go off road. I watch this video and say Yea Naa screw that.
I can’t wait for you next off raid adventure
Your enthusiasm for this when you are still very much learning is why I keep watching and coming back..
A great 'real world' scenario video. Much appreciation to the pair of you. Many thanks for posting.
Great fun, Freddie. 20 odd minutes of me smiling. Thank you. Glad you got your coffee!
Great stuff as usual. Your efforts and concern were so visible, I was concerned too!
Thanks for posting, a lot of people would NOT have posted this sort of stuff, I know it sucked but it made for an amazingly entertaining video, so you really did NOT fail.
Thanks and keep having adventures! Be safe, both of you.
Thank you very much, that means a lot!🙂
I totaly agree on dual sport tyres. On mine, I changed to TKC80 front and E09 back. I just got back from a offroad event in France organized by CocoricoRando.
I did ride 400+ km to get there. During the weekend I rode 500+ km on mixed surfaces : road, mud, water, dusty, grass, ...
I fell once in 15cm mud. From a previous fall, I reminded myself to let the bike fall saves wirst pain or issues.
About weight, I also agree. When offroading, you usually ride stand up. However I feel myself more confident seated. Maybe the center of gravity is lower than other bikes. However my major concerns when I offroad are low ground clearance, rear brake under the swinging arm and overheat risk without appropriate radiator gruad.
Thanks for this insight Alexis- especially about the part of allowing the bike to fall and your tyre choice👌👌
@@FreddieDobbs as Alexis says, this is very important lesson. Falling is part of offroad ride. I'm riding with him and he's probably the only guy to stay seated all the time. And he's going very well like that. It's impressive.
Street Scrambler is very capable offroad with the good tires and the knowledge of its limit in term of ground clearance. Otherwise it will pass everywhere you want with its very good and torquy engine.
I’ve watched a lot of Freddie’s videos now & they are all excellent but this one is genuinely hilarious but so relatable. Fair play to you posting it and please keep em coming !
We learn from failing so it's purely success in motion, loving the journey
I think the clue to its intended best use is in the Name "STREET" scrambler - great video as usual.
Don’t feel too bad, we all make these mistakes. I dropped my 1250GS on a bad dirty road that I shouldn’t have attempted and picking it up when it was fully loaded with camping gear was a complete nightmare, I felt your pain in this video. Needless to say the bike has gone and now I ride something much much lighter when on dirt or off road.
Thanks Graham and very interesting that you've moved on to something lighter! The Gas are gigantic and I can imagine fully laden they'd big HUGE to lift!
It’s was, I would estimate I that it was around 300kg when I went down and I had the same problem as you that the uneven ground made it near impossible to life. I was on my own and in the middle of a National Park and thought I was going to be stuck there. The GS was great for highways but bad dirt roads and with my limited experience it was definitely not for me no had to go.
Fantastic- adventures- you won’t forget that day in a hurry and I’m sure Triumph will be delighted to see their bike actually used for scrambling. I would be if I was them! I’d go back with some proper tyres if I was you! Your “lets go scrambling” is the quote of the day 😂👍
Thanks MD!😆
I hope Triumph see it that way (I think they will!)
Hey Dobbs! What a genuine Sunday video mate, Priceless honest content. Inspiration for many people like me. TC!
Thanks!!
Just as I was starting to seriously consider that bike, I get to hear about its astonishing weight! Thank you for that!
That is the most fun I’ve had watching a biking video in ages. So glad you posted it. Basically exactly what would happen to me if I went off roading!
We all learn this way, no shame. Thanks for sharing; I had a few good laughs. I really like the TKC80 on my R9T Urban. They are great on and off road but wear down really fast. Tip: put in a gear and use the clutch as a brake, then you don’t have to turn the bike around; you can take her down backwards.
I'd never thought of leaving it in gear- it sounds so obvious now!! Thanks for the tip🙂
Late to this video, agree with others. Thanks for keeping it real by showing this video. We’ve all been there. Love the dynamic between you two. Monica, great job on the camera and editing.
This was awesome! Not the mishap, but your positive attitude with the odds against you.
Glad ya ended up convincing her to post….great video….interesting to say the least, but that’s the way it goes sometimes ….lesson learned. Have a great week.
“If you fall off your horse get back on it.” I look forward to seeing you back at this spot and conquering it. It can be done, take a step back and figure out how.
Thanks Eric, I'll be back (no idea on what bike yet!😆)
Dude so glad you posted this one!! Was super entertaining. Love your channel, keep it up your following is going to grow like crazy!
Freddie, I like the way you keep it real and honest. And a shout out to Monika for her great work too!
Mitas E07 are a very good 50/50 and pretty respectable on wet roads. If you make sure the bike is in first gear before you pick it up you don't need to hang on to the front brake. Its also a good way of controlling a steep decent without starting the engine. Great video.
That is a very very good point! I stupidly took it out of gear but should've left it in gear!
A Mitas E07 rear and E09 or E10 front will get you around on some treacherous terrain and still be decent onroad. Mitas offers these in sizes that fit most brands of scramblers too. I got some for my wife's Benelli Leoncino Trail 500.
An EO9 rear can be tolerable onroad too. I used to like the similar Michelin T63 rear on my DR650 in Florida sand and mud.
Tires can make a HUGE difference in mud and sand, especially for novice riders. I could barely move my DR in Florida sugarsand when I first started riding dirt...until I swapped the front DS tire for an aggressive knobby. Then I got the hang of it in about a month, and can now ride somewhat milder tires, like a Shinko 244, on pillowy dunes.
I have had mixed emotions watching this Freddie....laughed my socks off on occasion, felt sad and sympathetic at others.....a great mini story all round. Thanks for sharing.....Monika - your editing skills and choice of music etc are awesome!
Dave
Good on you for giving it a go, that was a steep hill and would be beyond me for sure!
Forget the bike forget the crack ..Freddie cracks me up..we forget we were all young once ..brill experiences that's what it all about👌
I think the lesson learned out of this video Freddie is, carry spare socks 😆. Another brilliant adventure! 😉
One of the best bike uploads of the summer 👍🏻 I think the clue is in the name…STREET scrambler 😉😉🤣 Kudos Freddie for taking that big old girl up there on those tyres and trying a river crossing + brownie points to Monika for putting up with you! 👍🏻🤣💪
Thank you!!🙂🙌🏻🙌🏻
I don’t know how Monika copes!😆
Gave me a bloody good laugh this one😂 It was like watching a slapstick comedy. Great video as always
I am a recent subscriber and respect your attitude, honesty and quality of production. You have a loyal companion/partner in Monika that clearly is a very patient person. You both work well together and I look forward to your next videos. Cheers from Adelaide, Sth Aus👍
Thanks Peter! Monika is extremely patient!😆. I'm delighted to have a subscriber all the way over in Australia!!
Dobbs mentions ' putting a strap on' and comes out of the woodland sweating.... Gold 😂 Thanks for the great vlogs, imo one of the best channels on TH-cam.
I hoped no one would pick up on that!!🤣🤣🤣
Brilliant mate, not your finest hour but we all have days like this 😂👍
Just to add to the growing chorus - love your channel, Freddie. Stumbled across it by chance. Really enjoy your style to the camera, your mix of bike/clothing/equipment. Real world biking, and as others have said, your enthusiasm is great to watch. I have a 2017 Street Scrambler which I love, and have also taken it off road with mixed success - dry green lanes (fantastic), muddy off-road (awful, embarrassing and just too much hard work). And Monica is a great camera-wielder!
Thanks so much, delighted you enjoy the content!🙂🙌🏻 And great to get insight from a SS owner!
Your vids are a breath of fresh air - keep 'em coming! Brave to take that lump up those tracks, with those tyres, like so many bikes these days - a "styling exercise". Great that you have such good support from "the oher arf" too, my Mrs would have been in a different county!
Thanks!
Monika was not happy!!🤣🤣
One of your best videos! 🤣 love the sound of the street scrambler. Thanks for the entertainment
This was the funniest, you cacked me up!!!
Well done Freddie. You got me worried there as to whether you were going to get out. I ride a GS and the only off roading I have ever done is on an off road car park.😉
Hence the use of the word "street" in the bike name :) Loved it!
Freddie, You're like a Big Kid... Great fun Video Hello to Monika.
Thanks for posting, that was great, I have been in a similar position and was really worried so well done for staying cool and getting out of there.
No disrespect intended, but this was hilarious! So funny! The weakest kind of persons I know of, are those who cannot admit that they are nervous or cannot be funny on their own expence.. So, this indicates the complete opposite - strong integrity and great sence of humor. Thanks and rock on mate!
Thanks so much, I'm delighted you enjoyed it!🙂
I'm reasonably confident off-road and have dual-sport Pirelli Scorpion STRs on my Indian FTR 1200s which is even heavier. It's no more a flat track racer than the Triumph is a scrambler, but the tyres are a great compromise - incredible on the road and on hard compacted dirt, most green lanes and farm tracks. The 19' front is planted allowing comfortable rear wheel steering. However, as Freddie says, if it gets wet or muddy, the tyres are absolutely hopeless and hard to manage up a loose incline. There are dual sport tyres that are more capable but you sacrifice your road performance - and the Triumph Street Scrambler is a road bike. The answer? a lightweight enduro/trials bike/crosser and some designated off road tyres for anything other than non-challenging terrain and surfaces. Add to that, off-road riding tuition.
Entertaining video and I admire your honesty and pluck.
It's becoming my pleasurable habit to start the Sunday morning with a FD video 😆. Keep on going!
Thank you Walter!🙂
Love the realism because this is what happens with a lot of riders but they edit it out. I’m from the States and I kept saying….he’s “properly” tired!😂😂
I just watched this, one of your best ones yet... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thoroughly enjoyed this! I just sat on one of these Sandstorms today in the showroom. Your video answered many of my questions :-)
Awesome video and awesome content can’t wait for the next video Thanks Freddie and Monica
Fantastic video Freddie! I laughed so much as you rung out your socks. I think the ‘scrambler’ term for most of these road bikes applies to light green lane tracks not full off road capability. I love your enthusiasm and look forward to your vids. Knees in the breeze👍
Your best video yet. Very fun watch. 👍
So glad Monika posted, and well done for giving it a go. Lovin the content both so refreshing, actually learning a thing or two and really entertaining. Do love the look of the scrambler even if it’s more of a style thing. Have a Guzzi v85TT on order if it ever arrives so was genuinely interested to see how you got on.
Thanks Marcus!
I'm amazed at how light the Italian bikes are- the V85 looks hugely impressive!!
Must appreciate that you showed us what the triumph really can do off-road in its original configuration. It even has an off-road engine map!
I'd like to see you conquering that hill with a dirt bike.
Thanks for the entertaining and interesting video.
Monika is a saint!
Glad you found it useful! Monika is very patient!🙂 I'll be back to try it again!
I haven't ridden anything off road in years, but I couldn't help thinking that you needed to 1) gain some momentum before you hit the hill, 2) stand on the pegs and let her rip, 3) stay left of that rut. I think you could make it even with those tires. You're not going to crab-walk a 500 pound bike up that hill. Fun video though!
Really good video thanks for posting it!
Perfect video for me! My 2022 scrambler is in the shop right now getting new off road tires, suspension, and a luggage rack just like yours. Can’t wait to get her back!
I didn't think you'd make it with those tyres, but good work trying. If you don't have a go you'll never know :) love your honesty, keep the vids coming.
Hi , Great enthusiastic video , well done Freddie , for the effort in retrieving the Triumph and then riding through the river to wash it off , with your boots and socks , that saves time when you get home . I think you should fit a winch to the Fiat , carry some smoke flairs , a cargo net for your drone to give Monika , a chance of retrieving , the bits of her nearest and dearest , if lost in the under growth . Thanks for your honest adventure , out of the city and to Monika for the giggles and holding the camera steady , stay and ride safe you two .
I think I do need a winch on the Fiat!🤣🤣
Thank you!
Good video Freddy! With time your off-road skills will improve. Keep rocking✌🏽
I learned so much from this video. And had a great time watching!!! Please more scrambler videos! But do keep stay safe. I can understand your partners sentiment, however it was great seeing you take some reasonable risks.
This is youtube gold! Good that things worked out, and no damage to the bike!
Thanks Mark!😆
Don't knock yourself out you did well considering you mostly street ride. You tried & owned this off road experience with your faults. Give it a go another time with the right tyres. Thank you Monica for showing this video your camera work is very good. Both ride safe & enjoy.
Thanks Christopher, really appreciate it!
You are a Brave Gentleman...this is the beauty of being a Motorcycles...
This is real 💯...and that's make so valuable 👍🏻🥇
Hey Dobbsy , tell Monica this video is definitely a success 👌🙌, , It’s the honesty and struggle of real life situations with humour thrown in 🤣, we’ve all been there 🙌 ( though some would tell it different and gloss it over ) and the learning on the journey adds to the experience, and fun too ! Yep a set of knobbly’s would of made a difference 😝, but there’s always a compromise and in this case we might not of had such a good story , 🎥,, lol 😂 Any landing we walk away from is a good one ☝️😜,, 🙌, thanks for sharing 👍
Glad you enjoyed it Neil! I learnt a lot from this dreadful attempt!😆
I'd LOVE to try a bike with proper knobblys to feel the difference!
I’ve been riding for over 50 years and I have dropped my bikes a few times. The last time was on my 850 pound Harley Electraglide, that I was washing in my front yard, on the grass with my family watching after a holiday Bar BQ. I went to move the bike, my foot slipped in the wet grass and down I went in front of God and everyone. The family had a good time at my expense. When I ride with new riders and they drop their bike and are embarrassed, I always say, It doesn’t count unless at least one person sees you do it, and they have a good laugh. Monika saw you drop it and so did we viewers, and Monika and we had a giggle. So that drop counts. Join the Club! At 69 with a bad back, I would have had to hike to the highway and flag down some help. Well done Mr. Dobbs. Ride safe and keep the shiny side up. Bill😎
Thank you so much Bill, I love this story!🙂
Awesome video man!
Knobbly tyres needed. I had a good laugh, highly entertaining video again Freddie!
Love this! I've done all kinds of inappropriate offroading on all my bikes and scooters over the years. Big bikes on road tyres(let's be honest, the knobbles on the triumphs are purely for show) are a handful on anything more serious than dry hard pack. Buts it's still fun trying!
Greetings from a Yorkshireman in Western Australia.
Standing up on the pegs helps a great deal by concentrating your body weight over the rear wheel giving you more traction. Paddling along takes the weight off the wheel causing it to slip.
Gain confidence standing by riding along at progressively higher speeds on the road, then once you've perfected that, transfer those new skills off road.
Really helps.
Great channel and content.
Thank you for the tips!
And hello over in Australia (you won't be surprised to hear there's been a lot of rain back in old England this summer!😆)
First intention : Call you, ask you where you are, come around to help ! Thanks for this Video - very entertaining !
Love your videos. Thanks
Well done Freddie getting the Scrambler out of that valley,don't think i would have made it !! Very entertaining,biking for me is about having little adventures & you certainly had one here haha,thanks for posting & well done to your Monika,happy riding pal👍
Really glad you enjoyed it, thanks Adrian!🙂
Thoroughly enjoyed this video Freddie keep up the good work m8
Freddie , I guess that's what they call a bad day at the office and to top it all you got a soaking , made me laugh though , I bet that coffee was the best one ever !! Well done mate
It was a very good coffee (I'm not sure if it was well deserved, but it was good!😆)
What a hilarious video. Thanks so much.
Worst off-road day since Baron Von Grumble took his GSXR 1000 off road 😂😂😂
Leave it in gear so when you do stand it up you don’t need to hold the brake
I have so much fun in watching... Good adventure
Awesome video. Loved Monika's "I told you not to do that." TH-camr, Scrambler Stories, took his Street Scrambler from Key West to Prodhue Bay (Carribean to Artic). His bike was beat up but he made it. No offroad, just really bad unpaved roads. That is probably what the Street Scrambler is made for - unpaved and poorly maintained roads. The name is Street Scrambler after all.
I'll check out Scrambler Stries, thanks for the tip Chris- that sounds like a great road trip!
omg..haha well what can i say me and the wife have been watching freddie and monika doing there vlogs in bed on a night...well were up to this episode at the moment and boy we couldnt stop laughing at this episode..im so glad you published it as it just goes to show what a difficult situation bikes can get them selves into when they have watched long way down/up/around..haha.poor monika following freddie strutting his stuff nearly on every vlog before freddie is on 1 seater bike and monika in tow..and omg when the sunglasses came out from tenerife i couldnt help but shout out £2.99..haha.keep up the good work guys.we love it.
Man, your vids are amazing! I love your content!😂❤
This is what I call a brave gentleman.
Cheers from Rio, Freddie.
You inspired me to buy a dual seat for my Enfield 535 GT and do some bike trips with my girl.
Well done Freddie, it didn't go as you hoped however you were bold enough to go ahead and share it! Have you ever considered a off road riding course I'm sure it would be of benefit to you.
Thanks Mark, I should consider one (although never have, for some reason!)
Sounds like a course is the only way Monica is gonna let you back on those green lanes
they really are worth it, totally different experience getting on the dirt proper. Mick Extance Experience or the BMW off-road courses over in Wales seems like a good shout.
Well done Freddie! I really like your video. Teach us a lot about take good decisions when and where ride a bike. I hope you can do more like this. Regards from Mexico. I have an scrambler too, but with an anakee wild Michelin tyres.
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks Alberto! And thanks for the heads up on the Anakee tyres- a lot of people seem to rate these very highly!
Made me laugh when you said "I tell you what I've found" then pointed at the rack , I thought you were going to agree with my last comment that it's useless .....which to be fair it didn't help you out of Schitt creek ! What you needed was a set of proper off road tyres then put them on a Himalayan .....much cheaper to drop or even abandon in the bushes if you're really stuck ! Made my day this video 👍
The Himalayan- that is amazing because you genuinely don't mind if you drop it. When I had one on loan, RE actually encouraged me to take it off roading!😃
@@FreddieDobbs Don't think Triumph will be so encouraging ! It's a styling exercise when all said and done !
Just came across this video, interested in the Street Scrambler. I loved your fashion segment after the chaos of getting stuck lol. Great upbeat channel, I sub'd after watching your video of England to Tenerife. Keep up the good work, Monica is the main star :)
I did not like Freddie's videos originally but after laughing out loud like I was watching 'Only Fool's & Horses' I have decided to give the guy the thumbs up and hit subscribe and like.
Hit it with speed son, and stand up on the pegs! I enjoyed the video thanks mate,
And in second gear. I agree - but that takes confidence and experience.
I have that bike and ride in the dirt often. But those tires are 85% road and 15% dirt.
I’ve taken mine on a motocross track, just to see, and the bike is built like a tank.
I love that bike!
You seem like a genuinely likeable bloke. All the way through I was wishing I could have been there to help you get the Triumph out. Keep these vids coming you two.
Thanks very much Stephen! And I wouldn't have said no to some extra help!😆
“Nice but dim”? (Harry Enfield character)
I've got the street scrambler with the stock tires and for gravelly dirt roads I think they are fine. But I think you are right. Get them in something wet and I think it'll be useless. Don't have to worry about that too much here in California. Just don't ride for the 1 week of the year that it rains.
Will definitely go for the Pirelli Scorpion STR when the Metzlers are done though.
Great video.
can happen to anyone! Especially off road. Way to give it a go anyway Freddie
Momentum is your friend on hills like that. Also standing on the pegs. Give it the beans!
Hey Freddie, thanks for your reviews and funny moments. I am thinking to get one of this sandstorm model. My question is do you think is really worth the extra cash? Limited edition bike only for those 4-5 custom parts and a certificate. Not even something marked on the bike like the old limited edition Bonnies. I sold my 2015 Bonneville a couple of weeks ago and I am already missing the bike.
Seeing you almost get stuck in the water made me laugh!!
Bloody fine effort manhandling that bike on a steep slope! I think we’ve all been in similar situations and it isn’t good. As you say, to enjoy off roading you need a light bike with a torquey engine and proper tyres. TXC80 Twinduro tyre is loved by many 👍 Loved the video and your honesty.
Thank you Malc!🙂
A nice honest video, high exhaust doesn't make it a bike for off road.
That was a pretty spot for you both to have a well earned coffee.