Off Roading Fail on a Triumph Street Scrambler

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  • I took the Triumph Street Scrambler Sandstorm off roading, to the exact same spot as I took the Mutt Mastiff 250.
    You can see the Mutt Mastiff video here: • Sunset Off Roading wit...
    I wanted to see how the Street Scrambler coped compared to the 250cc, 150kg Mutt, so I attempted a steep incline on the Street Scrambler that I managed to summit on the Mutt.
    I learnt a few big lessons from this off road attempt!
    I hope you enjoy the video and happy watching!:)
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  • @watster
    @watster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    You're like a big child! I was laughing so hard! I love it! :D Don't listen to Monica. Give us more off-roading!

  • @bigdavedogdad
    @bigdavedogdad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    "I've no idea what I'm doing! I shouldn't have a bike licence!" Lol. I love your have-a-go attitude and your humility in the face of 'set backs', fella!
    A great fun and useful video for others who don't know what they're doing, either, but might want to have a go anyway!
    You've both encouraged and fore-warned hehe. Good mix. Well done, chap! Keep it up!

  • @GeraldGarcia
    @GeraldGarcia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Priceless content! Thank you for what you do. And to Triumph, please go easy on this man.

  • @sebh4554
    @sebh4554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I think we're all glad you posted the video 🤗 Riding is about learning and experiencing hence the genuine joy that comes with it. It's not always easy though, and you nailed it, cause you shared it.
    I'm hoping Triumph keeps trusting you with press bikes as they must know a honest review is good publicity too.
    Keep up the great and inspiring work
    Cheers

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Really appreciate it, thanks Seb!!

    • @DeiseRebel
      @DeiseRebel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Totally agree Seb

  • @superleggenda
    @superleggenda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This video was absolutely great. Too many people take themselves too seriously. You showed us that a beautiful bike that LOOKS like it was designed for off reading is actually not. And confirmed that dual sports tires are bad both on and off road. This is something lots of us have known for a while, but independent confirmation never hurts.

    • @yassassin6425
      @yassassin6425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree that it's so refreshing seeing some self-deprecating content on You Tube - a platform largely associated with narcissism, armchair expertise and Dunning Kruger syndrome.
      However, I do disagree with your generalisation about dual-sport tyres. Yes they can be a compromise either way, depends what ratio you choose, and some are found wanting on the road, but excel on the dirt, and vice versa, which is why you should choose carefully according to your needs. That said, their are some outstanding all round products out there - silica rich with incredible grip on the road, but come into their own even in extended and quite challenging off-road conditions. He's right though, unless you opt for 70-80% off road orientation, these dual sports tyres tend to be absolutely atrocious in the mud and sand.

    • @superleggenda
      @superleggenda 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yassassin6425 I am not trying to portray myself as a tyre expert. I’m not. I was just applying some common sense. Nothing can work well on and off road at the same time. Be it a bike or a tyre.

    • @yassassin6425
      @yassassin6425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@superleggenda
      There are some that do strike a compromise which is obviously relative to the ability of and expectations of the rider and the conditions. In terms of extremities, of course not, I agree with you entirely, but there are some very advanced dual sport tyres out there.
      Saying that, for serious off road excursions, three things are required. A lightweight purpose built MX/tirals/enduro motorcycle; proper off road tyres and tuition.

    • @iamcaferacer
      @iamcaferacer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ive seen the same bike do it with knobies with no issue doing it fast standing on the bike.

    • @davidhaggerty4601
      @davidhaggerty4601 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Legend 😂

  • @VVoltz
    @VVoltz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great stuff as usual. Your efforts and concern were so visible, I was concerned too!
    Thanks for posting, a lot of people would NOT have posted this sort of stuff, I know it sucked but it made for an amazingly entertaining video, so you really did NOT fail.
    Thanks and keep having adventures! Be safe, both of you.

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you very much, that means a lot!🙂

  • @simonpinder4148
    @simonpinder4148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A great 'real world' scenario video. Much appreciation to the pair of you. Many thanks for posting.

  • @rayb241
    @rayb241 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was hilarious, well done… Real dirt and dual sport tires don’t mix. To ride on slopes you need more speed at the bottom, to get used to that, you need more practice on smaller dirt bikes. Again a great video

  • @grahamhorne8259
    @grahamhorne8259 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Don’t feel too bad, we all make these mistakes. I dropped my 1250GS on a bad dirty road that I shouldn’t have attempted and picking it up when it was fully loaded with camping gear was a complete nightmare, I felt your pain in this video. Needless to say the bike has gone and now I ride something much much lighter when on dirt or off road.

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Graham and very interesting that you've moved on to something lighter! The Gas are gigantic and I can imagine fully laden they'd big HUGE to lift!

    • @grahamhorne8259
      @grahamhorne8259 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s was, I would estimate I that it was around 300kg when I went down and I had the same problem as you that the uneven ground made it near impossible to life. I was on my own and in the middle of a National Park and thought I was going to be stuck there. The GS was great for highways but bad dirt roads and with my limited experience it was definitely not for me no had to go.

  • @pauleden5396
    @pauleden5396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your enthusiasm for this when you are still very much learning is why I keep watching and coming back..

  • @matthewroman3920
    @matthewroman3920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dude so glad you posted this one!! Was super entertaining. Love your channel, keep it up your following is going to grow like crazy!

  • @renjithkr4514
    @renjithkr4514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey Dobbs! What a genuine Sunday video mate, Priceless honest content. Inspiration for many people like me. TC!

  • @room3663
    @room3663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dobbs mentions ' putting a strap on' and comes out of the woodland sweating.... Gold 😂 Thanks for the great vlogs, imo one of the best channels on TH-cam.

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hoped no one would pick up on that!!🤣🤣🤣

  • @md2528
    @md2528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fantastic- adventures- you won’t forget that day in a hurry and I’m sure Triumph will be delighted to see their bike actually used for scrambling. I would be if I was them! I’d go back with some proper tyres if I was you! Your “lets go scrambling” is the quote of the day 😂👍

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks MD!😆
      I hope Triumph see it that way (I think they will!)

  • @hughhanson9919
    @hughhanson9919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Freddie, I like the way you keep it real and honest. And a shout out to Monika for her great work too!

  • @scratchvideo8859
    @scratchvideo8859 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think the clue to its intended best use is in the Name "STREET" scrambler - great video as usual.

  • @rushy67rr97
    @rushy67rr97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One of the best bike uploads of the summer 👍🏻 I think the clue is in the name…STREET scrambler 😉😉🤣 Kudos Freddie for taking that big old girl up there on those tyres and trying a river crossing + brownie points to Monika for putting up with you! 👍🏻🤣💪

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!!🙂🙌🏻🙌🏻
      I don’t know how Monika copes!😆

  • @dieppe182
    @dieppe182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mitas E07 are a very good 50/50 and pretty respectable on wet roads. If you make sure the bike is in first gear before you pick it up you don't need to hang on to the front brake. Its also a good way of controlling a steep decent without starting the engine. Great video.

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is a very very good point! I stupidly took it out of gear but should've left it in gear!

    • @RKmndo
      @RKmndo ปีที่แล้ว

      A Mitas E07 rear and E09 or E10 front will get you around on some treacherous terrain and still be decent onroad. Mitas offers these in sizes that fit most brands of scramblers too. I got some for my wife's Benelli Leoncino Trail 500.
      An EO9 rear can be tolerable onroad too. I used to like the similar Michelin T63 rear on my DR650 in Florida sand and mud.
      Tires can make a HUGE difference in mud and sand, especially for novice riders. I could barely move my DR in Florida sugarsand when I first started riding dirt...until I swapped the front DS tire for an aggressive knobby. Then I got the hang of it in about a month, and can now ride somewhat milder tires, like a Shinko 244, on pillowy dunes.

  • @dgbourdon1325
    @dgbourdon1325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have had mixed emotions watching this Freddie....laughed my socks off on occasion, felt sad and sympathetic at others.....a great mini story all round. Thanks for sharing.....Monika - your editing skills and choice of music etc are awesome!
    Dave

  • @grh6439
    @grh6439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great fun, Freddie. 20 odd minutes of me smiling. Thank you. Glad you got your coffee!

  • @ericmagnusson1990
    @ericmagnusson1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “If you fall off your horse get back on it.” I look forward to seeing you back at this spot and conquering it. It can be done, take a step back and figure out how.

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Eric, I'll be back (no idea on what bike yet!😆)

  • @alexisvandendaele8966
    @alexisvandendaele8966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I totaly agree on dual sport tyres. On mine, I changed to TKC80 front and E09 back. I just got back from a offroad event in France organized by CocoricoRando.
    I did ride 400+ km to get there. During the weekend I rode 500+ km on mixed surfaces : road, mud, water, dusty, grass, ...
    I fell once in 15cm mud. From a previous fall, I reminded myself to let the bike fall saves wirst pain or issues.
    About weight, I also agree. When offroading, you usually ride stand up. However I feel myself more confident seated. Maybe the center of gravity is lower than other bikes. However my major concerns when I offroad are low ground clearance, rear brake under the swinging arm and overheat risk without appropriate radiator gruad.

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for this insight Alexis- especially about the part of allowing the bike to fall and your tyre choice👌👌

    • @MrBlasme
      @MrBlasme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FreddieDobbs as Alexis says, this is very important lesson. Falling is part of offroad ride. I'm riding with him and he's probably the only guy to stay seated all the time. And he's going very well like that. It's impressive.
      Street Scrambler is very capable offroad with the good tires and the knowledge of its limit in term of ground clearance. Otherwise it will pass everywhere you want with its very good and torquy engine.

  • @YangCalgary
    @YangCalgary 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We all learn this way, no shame. Thanks for sharing; I had a few good laughs. I really like the TKC80 on my R9T Urban. They are great on and off road but wear down really fast. Tip: put in a gear and use the clutch as a brake, then you don’t have to turn the bike around; you can take her down backwards.

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd never thought of leaving it in gear- it sounds so obvious now!! Thanks for the tip🙂

  • @TallyHoTech
    @TallyHoTech ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When ever I want to go off road. I watch this video and say Yea Naa screw that.
    I can’t wait for you next off raid adventure

  • @stanleylawson9015
    @stanleylawson9015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We learn from failing so it's purely success in motion, loving the journey

  • @johnturner6677
    @johnturner6677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your vids are a breath of fresh air - keep 'em coming! Brave to take that lump up those tracks, with those tyres, like so many bikes these days - a "styling exercise". Great that you have such good support from "the oher arf" too, my Mrs would have been in a different county!

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!
      Monika was not happy!!🤣🤣

  • @rjm0234
    @rjm0234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is the most fun I’ve had watching a biking video in ages. So glad you posted it. Basically exactly what would happen to me if I went off roading!

  • @fredhastingsquebectrip6180
    @fredhastingsquebectrip6180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Late to this video, agree with others. Thanks for keeping it real by showing this video. We’ve all been there. Love the dynamic between you two. Monica, great job on the camera and editing.

  • @DiogoAmancio
    @DiogoAmancio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is what I call a brave gentleman.

    • @DiogoAmancio
      @DiogoAmancio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers from Rio, Freddie.
      You inspired me to buy a dual seat for my Enfield 535 GT and do some bike trips with my girl.

  • @zorro1000sx
    @zorro1000sx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No disrespect intended, but this was hilarious! So funny! The weakest kind of persons I know of, are those who cannot admit that they are nervous or cannot be funny on their own expence.. So, this indicates the complete opposite - strong integrity and great sence of humor. Thanks and rock on mate!

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much, I'm delighted you enjoyed it!🙂

  • @oliviermagere
    @oliviermagere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just as I was starting to seriously consider that bike, I get to hear about its astonishing weight! Thank you for that!

  • @30smsuperstrat
    @30smsuperstrat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was awesome! Not the mishap, but your positive attitude with the odds against you.

  • @michaeledwardlenzi
    @michaeledwardlenzi 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I totally relate. Best Freddie episode.

  • @charlescollins4783
    @charlescollins4783 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Perfect video for me! My 2022 scrambler is in the shop right now getting new off road tires, suspension, and a luggage rack just like yours. Can’t wait to get her back!

  • @michaelletford4786
    @michaelletford4786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Leave it in gear so when you do stand it up you don’t need to hold the brake

  • @abdulazizsaleh8650
    @abdulazizsaleh8650 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a Brave Gentleman...this is the beauty of being a Motorcycles...
    This is real 💯...and that's make so valuable 👍🏻🥇

  • @yassassin6425
    @yassassin6425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm reasonably confident off-road and have dual-sport Pirelli Scorpion STRs on my Indian FTR 1200s which is even heavier. It's no more a flat track racer than the Triumph is a scrambler, but the tyres are a great compromise - incredible on the road and on hard compacted dirt, most green lanes and farm tracks. The 19' front is planted allowing comfortable rear wheel steering. However, as Freddie says, if it gets wet or muddy, the tyres are absolutely hopeless and hard to manage up a loose incline. There are dual sport tyres that are more capable but you sacrifice your road performance - and the Triumph Street Scrambler is a road bike. The answer? a lightweight enduro/trials bike/crosser and some designated off road tyres for anything other than non-challenging terrain and surfaces. Add to that, off-road riding tuition.
    Entertaining video and I admire your honesty and pluck.

  • @caroldave4037
    @caroldave4037 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Forget the bike forget the crack ..Freddie cracks me up..we forget we were all young once ..brill experiences that's what it all about👌

  • @rollopowell-jones4415
    @rollopowell-jones4415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just to add to the growing chorus - love your channel, Freddie. Stumbled across it by chance. Really enjoy your style to the camera, your mix of bike/clothing/equipment. Real world biking, and as others have said, your enthusiasm is great to watch. I have a 2017 Street Scrambler which I love, and have also taken it off road with mixed success - dry green lanes (fantastic), muddy off-road (awful, embarrassing and just too much hard work). And Monica is a great camera-wielder!

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks so much, delighted you enjoy the content!🙂🙌🏻 And great to get insight from a SS owner!

  • @billfish5913
    @billfish5913 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been riding for over 50 years and I have dropped my bikes a few times. The last time was on my 850 pound Harley Electraglide, that I was washing in my front yard, on the grass with my family watching after a holiday Bar BQ. I went to move the bike, my foot slipped in the wet grass and down I went in front of God and everyone. The family had a good time at my expense. When I ride with new riders and they drop their bike and are embarrassed, I always say, It doesn’t count unless at least one person sees you do it, and they have a good laugh. Monika saw you drop it and so did we viewers, and Monika and we had a giggle. So that drop counts. Join the Club! At 69 with a bad back, I would have had to hike to the highway and flag down some help. Well done Mr. Dobbs. Ride safe and keep the shiny side up. Bill😎

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much Bill, I love this story!🙂

  • @markb3180
    @markb3180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well done Freddie, it didn't go as you hoped however you were bold enough to go ahead and share it! Have you ever considered a off road riding course I'm sure it would be of benefit to you.

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Mark, I should consider one (although never have, for some reason!)

    • @cashlessbond
      @cashlessbond 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like a course is the only way Monica is gonna let you back on those green lanes

    • @nomading_in
      @nomading_in 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they really are worth it, totally different experience getting on the dirt proper. Mick Extance Experience or the BMW off-road courses over in Wales seems like a good shout.

  • @Pete128
    @Pete128 ปีที่แล้ว

    I run a Tiger 1200 XCa (2018) and put some Anlas Capra X tyres on for some off road training here in Singapore. The used the same tyres for some long runs into Malaysia - they were absolutely fine! Good and cheap too. Since then (2022) I've just renewed the tyres and am trying the Anlas Capra Rd - road biased tyres - so far so good. Tyres can make or break a bikes capability!

  • @HONMONSTER
    @HONMONSTER 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Freddie, You're like a Big Kid... Great fun Video Hello to Monika.

  • @greyriddance64
    @greyriddance64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Must appreciate that you showed us what the triumph really can do off-road in its original configuration. It even has an off-road engine map!
    I'd like to see you conquering that hill with a dirt bike.
    Thanks for the entertaining and interesting video.
    Monika is a saint!

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you found it useful! Monika is very patient!🙂 I'll be back to try it again!

    • @davidholt4216
      @davidholt4216 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I haven't ridden anything off road in years, but I couldn't help thinking that you needed to 1) gain some momentum before you hit the hill, 2) stand on the pegs and let her rip, 3) stay left of that rut. I think you could make it even with those tires. You're not going to crab-walk a 500 pound bike up that hill. Fun video though!

  • @KOedNAC
    @KOedNAC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of your best videos! 🤣 love the sound of the street scrambler. Thanks for the entertainment

  • @paultansey8706
    @paultansey8706 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hit it with speed son, and stand up on the pegs! I enjoyed the video thanks mate,

    • @yassassin6425
      @yassassin6425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And in second gear. I agree - but that takes confidence and experience.

  • @davidbarnes7150
    @davidbarnes7150 ปีที่แล้ว

    omg..haha well what can i say me and the wife have been watching freddie and monika doing there vlogs in bed on a night...well were up to this episode at the moment and boy we couldnt stop laughing at this episode..im so glad you published it as it just goes to show what a difficult situation bikes can get them selves into when they have watched long way down/up/around..haha.poor monika following freddie strutting his stuff nearly on every vlog before freddie is on 1 seater bike and monika in tow..and omg when the sunglasses came out from tenerife i couldnt help but shout out £2.99..haha.keep up the good work guys.we love it.

  • @open_water2411
    @open_water2411 ปีที่แล้ว

    Knobbly tyres needed. I had a good laugh, highly entertaining video again Freddie!

  • @equaliser2265
    @equaliser2265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You need momentum, you need some upper body strength brah, knobbly tyres, and lots of POWERRRRRRRR.

  • @TheHonarable1
    @TheHonarable1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the realism because this is what happens with a lot of riders but they edit it out. I’m from the States and I kept saying….he’s “properly” tired!😂😂

  • @RKmndo
    @RKmndo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Triumph 1200 scramblers use an aluminum frame, IIRC. They may also use lighter exhaust, bars, engine, tank, fenders, etc.
    Considerable weight can be shaved from the 900.

  • @68orangecrate26
    @68orangecrate26 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good demonstration of what most would assume: I love my T120, but that’s a scrambler in appearance only….

  • @jasonadams5187
    @jasonadams5187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video and awesome content can’t wait for the next video Thanks Freddie and Monica

  • @alexyunchic4694
    @alexyunchic4694 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't know, but it's looking amazing☺

  • @chrismeyler
    @chrismeyler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video. Loved Monika's "I told you not to do that." TH-camr, Scrambler Stories, took his Street Scrambler from Key West to Prodhue Bay (Carribean to Artic). His bike was beat up but he made it. No offroad, just really bad unpaved roads. That is probably what the Street Scrambler is made for - unpaved and poorly maintained roads. The name is Street Scrambler after all.

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll check out Scrambler Stries, thanks for the tip Chris- that sounds like a great road trip!

  • @christopherwatts1833
    @christopherwatts1833 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't knock yourself out you did well considering you mostly street ride. You tried & owned this off road experience with your faults. Give it a go another time with the right tyres. Thank you Monica for showing this video your camera work is very good. Both ride safe & enjoy.

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Christopher, really appreciate it!

  • @ChrisyC567
    @ChrisyC567 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just watched this, one of your best ones yet... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @portlandsean
    @portlandsean 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Momentum is your friend on hills like that. Also standing on the pegs. Give it the beans!

  • @paulegan7250
    @paulegan7250 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for posting, that was great, I have been in a similar position and was really worried so well done for staying cool and getting out of there.

  • @tasteapiana
    @tasteapiana ปีที่แล้ว

    The R nine T scrambler is a wide and low slung beast and the Street Scrambler is quite a bit taller and more narrow, likely mostly due to the cylinder orientation. The weight difference likely also has to do with engine orientation as the Triumph has a full scale old school frame and it being a chain-driven bike there isn't the efficiency of engineering going into its power delivery. BMW has fit a LOT of the R nine T's capability into that drive mechanism and it's not all iron castings. Pound for pound, since the R nine T has a lower center of gravity, it could potentially weigh 40kg MORE overall than the Triumph and still handle like a lighter bike in all situations apart from quicksand lol. That said, however, it would be the Trimuph - even if it weighed less - that an industrial magnet would pull on the hardest. Lighter alloys and thinner yet hardened materials are NOT just lighter, they can be placed such that balance and rider control are optimized. Triumph is at least a decade behind BMW in that respect. I would go further and argue that Moto Guzzi even has the advantage if only for their use of shaft drives and horizontally opposed heads. In my opinion, the Triumph does LOOK better than the R nine T (in a rough and tumble way) but even so those exposed pipes right under your thigh are a non starter for most, they should find a different way to deal with exhaust even if it would mean flattening out the pipes to fit below the motor and beefing up the crash pan. I'd take a 1'' hit in ground clearance any day over roasting myself. And, the current layout is all for what? For the handful of times someone wants to do a river crossing? WHO DOES THAT? Do most Scrambler customers live in the back country of Vietnam? It's nearly 100% gimmickry.

  • @x-man5056
    @x-man5056 ปีที่แล้ว

    The off road driving mode just shuts off the traction control and ABS. I have one of these bikes (2022). It's not a dirt bike by any measure. Too Heavy. OK with me, I bought it for it's bones to customize for jetting around town. Super fun bike.

  • @ScankSka
    @ScankSka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Dobbsy , tell Monica this video is definitely a success 👌🙌, , It’s the honesty and struggle of real life situations with humour thrown in 🤣, we’ve all been there 🙌 ( though some would tell it different and gloss it over ) and the learning on the journey adds to the experience, and fun too ! Yep a set of knobbly’s would of made a difference 😝, but there’s always a compromise and in this case we might not of had such a good story , 🎥,, lol 😂 Any landing we walk away from is a good one ☝️😜,, 🙌, thanks for sharing 👍

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it Neil! I learnt a lot from this dreadful attempt!😆
      I'd LOVE to try a bike with proper knobblys to feel the difference!

  • @jamesfairmind2247
    @jamesfairmind2247 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Freddie those figure are wrong. The 1200XC/XE wet weights are 7 and 9 kg more than the 900 Scrambler. 223 kg is wet weight, deduct 12 litres fuel, oil and coolant and it is closer to 203kg.

  • @themoog3889
    @themoog3889 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Made me laugh when you said "I tell you what I've found" then pointed at the rack , I thought you were going to agree with my last comment that it's useless .....which to be fair it didn't help you out of Schitt creek ! What you needed was a set of proper off road tyres then put them on a Himalayan .....much cheaper to drop or even abandon in the bushes if you're really stuck ! Made my day this video 👍

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Himalayan- that is amazing because you genuinely don't mind if you drop it. When I had one on loan, RE actually encouraged me to take it off roading!😃

    • @themoog3889
      @themoog3889 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FreddieDobbs Don't think Triumph will be so encouraging ! It's a styling exercise when all said and done !

  • @mark222b
    @mark222b 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is youtube gold! Good that things worked out, and no damage to the bike!

  • @robg521
    @robg521 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For off road you are correct… tyres are everything.
    I have a 4x4 for work and spend most of the on the main roads traveling to off road type locations, I only occasionally have to actually go off road so have road tyres fitted.
    So I’m OK for easy green lane conditions but when It gets wet I am in trouble.
    [wet and muddy = find a tractor to tow you out]

  • @kernow..exp.
    @kernow..exp. 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thoroughly enjoyed this video Freddie keep up the good work m8

  • @martinlegrice1414
    @martinlegrice1414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hence the use of the word "street" in the bike name :) Loved it!

  • @MotoFeelz
    @MotoFeelz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haha I feel ya pain there bro! Solid effort though - they can be a pig off-road. Tires make a huge difference on these.. that, and speed. Awesome vid 👊

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really appreciate it, thanks Rob! I'd love to try it with some off road focused tyres to compare. I did bottle it on the speed side through fear of destroying bike bike!😆

  • @ronaldthomas9396
    @ronaldthomas9396 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Triumph uses standard steel tubes [pipe stock] which is heavier and less ridged than the chrome moly tubes used on the properly engineered bikes..Chrome Molybdenum is the tubing used to build aircraft!

  • @marcusdixey9336
    @marcusdixey9336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So glad Monika posted, and well done for giving it a go. Lovin the content both so refreshing, actually learning a thing or two and really entertaining. Do love the look of the scrambler even if it’s more of a style thing. Have a Guzzi v85TT on order if it ever arrives so was genuinely interested to see how you got on.

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Marcus!
      I'm amazed at how light the Italian bikes are- the V85 looks hugely impressive!!

  • @ripmax333
    @ripmax333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @10:41 I once was in that scenario where I was with my BETA Alp 200 which weighs only 118kg wet, the only big difference was that I couldn't just turn over and call it a day but I had to continue to climb in order to get out of there. I'm by no means a very experienced off-road rider and there was a part which I couldn't ride over it without falling with the bike so I had to lift it up at least 6 times...and it was getting darker.
    After I finally managed to get it out with my heart pumping like crazy I swore that I wouldn't even dare to go over such technical terrain if the bike weights more than 130kg, with a motorcycle like this triumph, my green lanes have to stay straight and level without any major inclines, that's for sure.

  • @julianperry5141
    @julianperry5141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Moto Feelz out of Sydney swears by Pirelli scorpion str, they look really good, check his TH-cam channel out, has probably the best triumph street scrambler on TH-cam.

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good shout, thanks Julian!

    • @kjltube
      @kjltube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      for that hill I'd say go more knobly. TKC 80's!
      Good honest video though. Well done mate!

    • @kevind2343
      @kevind2343 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also have them on my street scrambler they are great.

  • @humanentity2214
    @humanentity2214 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does he hate anything? Every video I've watched is like " this has to be the greatest bike I've ever seen" 😁

  • @asterix908
    @asterix908 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best tires offroad and onroad is Pirelli scorpion rally str. Pure Onroad tires will perform better or will have more longevity, but thats the one that can do both really well on a daily commuter.

  • @Pete128
    @Pete128 ปีที่แล้ว

    Time to do this again Freddie!!! With proper tyres on this time 😁

  • @lalotse
    @lalotse 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    First intention : Call you, ask you where you are, come around to help ! Thanks for this Video - very entertaining !

  • @hansottevanger4112
    @hansottevanger4112 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Having learned to ride back in the early seventies I feel your pain back the the trail bikes also did not have the ground clearance I currently own a 2023 900 scrambler and love it but it really needs a lower first gear otherwise I have found it climbs very well as long as you commit even with the stock tyres 😊

  • @neiltoplis8300
    @neiltoplis8300 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant mate, not your finest hour but we all have days like this 😂👍

  • @allsearpw3829
    @allsearpw3829 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi , Great enthusiastic video , well done Freddie , for the effort in retrieving the Triumph and then riding through the river to wash it off , with your boots and socks , that saves time when you get home . I think you should fit a winch to the Fiat , carry some smoke flairs , a cargo net for your drone to give Monika , a chance of retrieving , the bits of her nearest and dearest , if lost in the under growth . Thanks for your honest adventure , out of the city and to Monika for the giggles and holding the camera steady , stay and ride safe you two .

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think I do need a winch on the Fiat!🤣🤣
      Thank you!

  • @tonyanguiano9120
    @tonyanguiano9120 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learned so much from this video. And had a great time watching!!! Please more scrambler videos! But do keep stay safe. I can understand your partners sentiment, however it was great seeing you take some reasonable risks.

  • @MikhailProskalov
    @MikhailProskalov ปีที่แล้ว

    My dream model is scrambler like that

  • @simoncaddick9085
    @simoncaddick9085 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dual Sport tyres are always going to be something of a compromise, but those Metz really should have given a better account of themselves, as nothing you pointed them at looked too loose, slick, boggy or steep.
    The "Off Road Setting" setting you're looking for is in your mind - something you'll realise with experience and as your confidence grows. As for weight, check out Bruce Brown's "On Any Sunday" (and this perhaps th-cam.com/video/O-qHlz4hfak/w-d-xo.html )
    Your ticket up that climb was staying clear of the center rut and using the firm ground / foliage to the side as traction (only having part of your tyre in contact with the ground wasn't helping, you don't always need knobblys, just make best use of what you're shod with.. ..and on that note, I realise in all likelihood you didn't have a pump with you but reducing your tyre pressures would have helped out heaps), have faith, keep your feet up and remember, dabs aren't cool and cost points.
    Contact Avon, tell them your circumstances and ask what they recommend, as I'm sure their AM's would have been a trump card there, before even getting to anything more off road dedicated ('loved mine).
    Someone here mentioned an off-road riding course, I'd love to do one of those and am sure doing one would add to on road skills as well as off.
    Keep it up Freddie and Monica, I appreciate your content.

  • @monsieurlaroche9831
    @monsieurlaroche9831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video Freddie! I laughed so much as you rung out your socks. I think the ‘scrambler’ term for most of these road bikes applies to light green lane tracks not full off road capability. I love your enthusiasm and look forward to your vids. Knees in the breeze👍

  • @moto-coupe
    @moto-coupe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cracked me up mate! You are us ‘normal’ bikers.
    Want to do it
    probably shouldn’t do it
    can’t do it
    did it anyway
    Mrs says your not allowed to do it again!! 🤣🤣

  • @IanTheEarlobe
    @IanTheEarlobe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Metzler Tourance tires are such trash for off roading. I have them on my 1200xe and they’re useless with mild mud or anytime resembling sand. Props to you attempting that hill tho.

  • @mrbear143
    @mrbear143 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know this is a couple years old but just wanted to say - don’t get frustrated, it was a good attempt. You should really take a basic off road course. BMW has a rider course in the UK that I would recommend. They have basic course to more advanced courses. You can learn on the different gs models and size displacements. Guarantee you will learn so much and be able to tackle that hill next time even with the same bike and tires with ease!

  • @nqbritishrides
    @nqbritishrides 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your best video yet. Very fun watch. 👍

  • @igormaslov5989
    @igormaslov5989 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is very good answer for single riders in adventure.... I prefer to use Fantic 500 or even Bullit hero 250 ....with the weight under 150 kg ...🙂👍

  • @phils2180
    @phils2180 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed that, a light hearted look at off road riding😂. OK, seriously, the Street Scrambler is a road bike but we all know that, right? Designed for the STREET to LOOK look a SCRAMBLER. If you must take all 220+kg of it off road, fit some enduro tyres and gear it down.
    The "bigger" 1200 Scrambler uses lighter materials with a more off road biased design but even that is way too heavy for serious off road work. I love the SC, I bought one new in 2020 and unfortunately had it stolen recently but I'm going straight out to buy another one.
    I've done some VERY mild green lanes on it but I also have an Enduro bike for more serious stuff with proper tyres and gearing and 114kg dry. Horses for courses👍

  • @open_water2411
    @open_water2411 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a hilarious video. Thanks so much.

  • @RKmndo
    @RKmndo ปีที่แล้ว

    Greetings from Illinois! 'Fun video, Freddie!
    The novice years of riding off-pavement are some of the most fun. I started riding dualsport in my 30s, and I'm still enjoying the dualsport adventures in my 50s.
    I use road-legal knobby on front and long-wearing semi-knob on rear for dualsporting. Anything less aggressive does poorly in Illinois mud or pillowy Florida sand. I use at least a Shinko 244 rear and IRC TR8 front on my DR650, and put Kenda Big Blocks or Mitas E07R/E09F on my wife's Benelli Leoncino Trail 500. I have a Kenda Klassic rear in the shed that is going on the DR next.

  • @barrywilliams3783
    @barrywilliams3783 ปีที่แล้ว

    TKC 80's are a good off road tyre & also pretty good on road

  • @TheQ427
    @TheQ427 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I don't know what I'm doing, i honestly I shouldn't even have a bike license" - hilarious 😂 But trust me we all have such situations but we're not brave enough to do a vid about it let alone admit it publicly - that's the difference. So let the vids come. Stay safe Q

  • @Ralf916
    @Ralf916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video man, i love your honesty and the reality of heavy scramblers and dual tyres.
    So fed up with the ads of a stunt rider crossing the Sahara on a bike that we know in Blighty will only cross the camp field to the pub!
    Keep up the great work.

  • @porter5877
    @porter5877 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    210kg and crap tyre's you knew deep down it was gonna end up Like that, but respect for giving it a go

  • @bioni76
    @bioni76 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    a bit late - but the scrambler is 223kg wet, not dry as you state in the video :)

  • @Frogboxer
    @Frogboxer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Braver man than me....even on camera it looked steep and gnarly....though with more speed you would have got up...but you need the confidence and experience to do that. Freddie never learns though...he's still going through water and killing his engine...Bonneville in rehab right now.

  • @adrianwilson44
    @adrianwilson44 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done Freddie getting the Scrambler out of that valley,don't think i would have made it !! Very entertaining,biking for me is about having little adventures & you certainly had one here haha,thanks for posting & well done to your Monika,happy riding pal👍

    • @FreddieDobbs
      @FreddieDobbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really glad you enjoyed it, thanks Adrian!🙂

  • @davidhoughton273
    @davidhoughton273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Freddie, have you thought about jumping some buses instead of cross country?