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Hi, I'm new to the goth community, and I just wanted to say that I love your content. This video made me want to open up my own alt club. 😂P. S: I tried to Shazam the instrumental playing at 12:18 but nothing 😭, could you please tell me what song you used to avoid copyright?)
My dad was a member of the Batcave club, he's still got his membership card in his wallet! Its so nice to see people learn about this club, the stories my dad told me were fascinating and it really seemed like the place to be. Also yes, there was a lot of live music from bands but there was also a DJ sets in conjunction so it was a good mixture. A lot of popular Goth artists/groups would also just be there to mingle and not just for performance purposes, I believe Siouxsie was there the most according to my dad I'm watching along a bit more as well and yeah, the Batcave was a good excuse to dress up according to my Dad as well. He taught me that a lot of what Goths looked like back then in daily life was really a product of the 70s-80s, such as the larger (usually crimped) hair, a lot of Goths in their daily lives wore sequins, pearls, lighter coloured leggings, layered necklaces, dresses, really typical clothing of the time and there was a surprising amount of colour too. This was completely reflective of what you could see in the 70s-80s, not just among Goths but also the general public and people you'd see featured in magazines it would just be different colour palettes, some personal elements etc. Younger Goths today seem to completely brush over the fact that most Goths back then were typically not dressed up in their Batcave attire and wearing Trad makeup everyday, they were just wearing regular 70s-80s clothes with their own twist on the colour palettes, some DIY elements to what was reflective of their personal style as a Goth. They'd sometimes wear a little bit of makeup or they'd be completely bare-faced, but having large hair was easy as it was very trendy and not too outlandish to wear in daily life at the time so you'd see that teased, crimped style often outside of the club scene. But a lot of daily wear was based on what was trending in the 70s-80s, and the Batcave was people's excuse to go all out with their Trad makeup, their DIY outfits that REALLY expressed themselves whether that was their connection to the music, gender identity, sexuality and more. So it did often feel like to a lot of Batcavers, that the club was just a bit of a fashion show at times but it wasn't in a shallow way like you said, it was just an opportunity for most people to wear what they wanted when they otherwise probably couldn't in daily life (for examples their jobs, perhaps fear of judgement etc). It was also a safe place for said identities, sexualities and for people of any race as well, it was an important event for everyone who went and they treated it that way, it was their place to converge and to be with those alike.
I got into the scene in 1983 on the West coast of U.S. Everyone referred to us as "bat-cavers" & "death rockers", no one yet used the term goth. It was very, very common for parents to be against their teens expressing themselves in this way. Many kids would bring their clothes and makeup to school to avoid parental dismay! I remember visiting Skoochies in the summer of '83 in Seattle WA. and a huge number of kids would use the MacDonald's bathroom across the street to put on their clothes and makeup before making an appearance at the club. All of the coolest bat-cavers stayed in front of the club rather than going inside. Inside was mostly for new wave music and culture at that time. We all thrifted and made our own outfits and there was a huge amount of diversity and creativity and uniqueness to each person's appearance. It truly was an amazing and wonderful era! Also, I don't know what you two are drinking these days, but you both get more fetching with each video!
@@sdalby9127I didn't live in Seattle and was only on a summer holiday for one night there-such a thrilling night for me! I was able to take part in a more local scene in another part of the Pacific Northwest at least! We didn't have a goth club but we did have a new wave dance club where we spooky kids would dance at least.
They're honestly so great. We use everything we get in them and having the magazine on top to read is such great value! Hope you entered the giveaway! 🦇
Came across you by accident 😊 I used to go to the Batcave. Brilliant place and brilliant era. I would have been 20. And, yes, I left school at 16, moved from home at 17 and had been working since 16. It was quite normal and we had the ability to go from one job to another quite easily. I feel sorry for the younger generation now. It's just so hard. Xxxx
Same, came across this channel by accident. Early 80's and apparently I dressed like a goth to go clubbing - normal Fri/Sat night, had never heard of the term 'goth' back then. Moved across Australia when I was 16 & got a flat and a job. Can't see how anyone would rent a 16 y.o. a place these days! I now have a 27 y.o. who still lives at home :/ Everyone bags the 80's but there's some great stuff buried there...
You're right, that's something Boomer parents just didn't seem to understand. You can't just quit a job and get another before dinner time, there are fewer jobs and now everything has HR.
I dressed this way and listened to all this music starting in 1983-84, shortly after I turned 20 and in college and have kept elements of New Romantic/Goth style with me every day since. It is my artist/vampire comfort zone.
in the early 80's there was massive unemployement in Britain and Ireland, young people leaving school usually were unemployed for at least a year or two. they could have made a feature about a pop disco at the time, and i guarantee the people interviewed in that club would have been unemployed too
I love Alien Sex Fiend, have a original pressing of Acid Bath and one of the new re pressings of Who's Been Sleeping In My Brain...would have been awesome to see them at The Batcave
Lynn's outfit and makeup looks really beautiful and one of those things in this video reminded me of this story I have from the last couple years of me going to school but I feel like I should save it for a livestream because I like seeing live reactions
Always fun to see how colourful the outfits were during that time. Rarely do goths today go out in blue dresses or grey suits, I feel like, but the vibes are there, for sure.
This was great! I miss the 80s. I would've loved to experience The Batcave, but I was in America- we had the deathrock scene in the 80s. I miss the boots I had back then lol. You could easily buy pikes and winklepickers from the local record store. We did our own piercings with hot needles and wore safety pins-- we DIY'd everything lol.
It was slim pickings in the Midwest. But thifting was looked down upon by normies so it was our domain. $3 boots. $1 black dresses. Prom dresses and lace lingerie repurposed.
I absolutely loved this video and largely agree! It's really about having fun and artistic expression. Every time I got out to a goth club it is a blast and seriously no one cares about what anyone else is wearing or what bands they know (in a good way!). Everyone is just there to enjoy the music and have a great time 🖤🦇🖤
Hey! I'm from the '80s, so this was really interesting to me. I'm from Seattle, and was "Goth adjacent" for a while -- so this brought back a lot of memories. :) If you ever get out to Brisbane, in Australia, there's a fun shop called The Underworld that you'd enjoy. They probably have a website. But note that they're only open for limited hours. :) Found you two from the Crow review, which came up in my TH-cam feed. Your assesment was very balanced. You might like the "Double Toasted" and "Pitch Meeting" reviews. Anyhow -- have checked out a few of your videos. You two are charming. Have subscribed. :)
I'm a newer subscriber too, and off to Brisbane to visit my mum soon. Really hoping to squeeze in a visit to Underworld Realm, it's been years since I got to visit. 🖤
I think I've mentioned this before, I've been in and skirting the Goth Scene since the late 1970's and into the 80's through to today. My "Uniform" back in the early 80's was a pair of Black Levi 505 jeans, a band T-Shirt and my leather bike jacket (the jacket was because in Summer I road a 1969 Honda CB 750 Four, which like an idiot I sold,...ugh.). Now there was definitely a group in the scene in Edmonton Alberta that where a lot more flamboyant and followed a band called "Darkroom". Most of the Friends I had then are still friends now and while some have grown out of the dress portion of the culture we have all never outgrown the music. So far as I'm concerned, so long as you dig the music, you're as Goth as I am. 🦇
Dude, that's exactly how still I dress from high school into my 30s, minus the leather jacket. (I can't afford a real one plus I don't ride lol.) Do you wear a ring on every finger too? I just can't find one that fits my pink yet lpl
@@undeadknight01 Never really got into jewelry, just wasn't that much around. I wore a silver Mexican/Mayan Calendar pendant for a few years but gave it to a girlfriend as she liked it more than I did. The only ring I wore was my wedding band which I wore for 17 years until my Wife passed away at 49 from complications of Type 1 Diabetes. Now I wear her wedding band on a leather necklace which I have only removed on a couple occasions so it didn't get lost. Best of luck on your quest to find a ring for your little finger!! Keep the Faith!!
@@undeadknight01 Thank-you, and also thanks for commenting. Not many people take the time to respond anymore and we should be having discussions about what this scene meant to us old bats and what it means to the newer generations. Have a great week Undeadknight01, take care!!
Lynn!!! Your makeup has been so OUTRAGEOUS!!! I am in Love Love Love with your beautiful and exotic look! Dang you two put the scene to shame with the incredible looks your coming up with... OH YES BABY!!!
While I never got to The Bat Cave I did hang at the local punk/goth/alt club. All those groups would hang out together because the jocks would leave you alone when we were grouped up.
I’m so happy with the free magazine I haven’t read one in years also I’m most excited is the makeup products and everything that is included 🖤🦇🥰 plus hope your both doing amazing today 🦇🖤 sending lots of hugs and love from California USA
It definitely takes us back when reading magazines again! We love it! It's great to actually see the pictures and text inftont of you and not just on a phone screen! The makeup had been amazing so far and we are so excited to try the white foundation and the heart stamp! We hope you have a great weekend and best of luck with the competition 🖤🖤🦇🦇
I remember years ago (im a death head, death metal fanatic) i met my high school sweetheart she was a goth girl, she loved the band HIM , she got me into it, she always wore these crazy dresses, and always had the best makeup.
I was a baby in 83' and haven't been out of the 48 states. Always fun to see old school punks, goths, etc. Honestly if you want to go to a Goth just go it's how they stay in business if no one goes they close because no money. Just be polite and don't be an asshole.
This is so true, support the genre if you enjoy it! I have a retail goth shop & just love the whole range of customers we have! There is no age restriction for being who you want to be x OG goths FTW BTW ;)
I feel like the amount of unemployment and redundancy in the UK in the 80’s because of Margaret Thatcher spawned, a whole generation of creative people who basically wanted to find something to do to occupy themselves and the Gothic subculture must’ve been a real lifeline for them as it wasn’t that hard to get into these clubs as they were pretty cheap and you didn’t need to be rich to have an interesting DIY gothic aesthetic.
I was a teen in the 80's and it was all about what what you do. It was more important to the older generation. You were what you do. Conforming to the normal was expected. In the early 90's I had to cut my husband long hair for a job.
It seems like such a fun and iconic time but I'm glad things have changed a little bit now when it comes to having long hair and not conforming to normal lifestyles! That sucks having to cut your hair for a job 😩
@@RandomGothCouple 😊 cutting his hair was bitter sweet, we had small kids and they were worth the sacrifice. I do enjoy seeing more and more the world be more open minded to all the alternative cultures.
I’m not a goth. BUT I am proud to live in the city that birthed the goth subculture- Leeds UK. Specifically Le Phonographique club, the world’s FIRST goth club (sadly now closed) in the Merrion shopping centre. This tiny club (I once bumped into Sisters of Mercy’s Andrew Eldritch in here) had a pillar in the middle of the tiny dancefloor covered in tiny mirror tiles (everything was tiny, ok got it), and legend has it that goths danced the way they did because of the lack of space so would preen themselves in the mirror instead. This club was around BEFORE The Batcave and eventually closed in 2005. Wikipedia article here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Phonographique?wprov=sfti1#History
Honestly, I'd be grateful for anything that comes in that box! I have been Goth for who knows how long but I've never exactly looked the part. I am getting into the makeup side of things and have so many clothing items and accessories saved in wish lists, through various sites. Anything I won't use or wear, I'd be giving it to my friend who is also Goth so she can get some rad stuff too! ps: Regardless of the giveaway, I think you two are awesome! You've definitely helped me feel more comfortable showing my Goth side to society where I live and to my family. Much love and I can't wait to see what you guys post next!
Great content. I am not familiar with all things goth, but I really enjoy learning about a culture I have never experienced. As an 80s kid I always enjoyed the music and gravitated toward all music that was alternative.
Oh, and yea, old documentaries of this era DID focus on your employment. But it was not just the television documentaries, it was a BIG part of one's introduction in social situations. "May I introduce Joe Uninteresting, and he's a Hedge Fund Manager", or something like that. We thankfully seem to be getting away from that, or so it would seem.
Hi Random Goth Couple! First off, I wanted to let you know that your videos have consumed all of my free time in recent weeks! Your channel is never-ending gothic entertainment. If I were to receive a gothic beauty box, I would be most excited about the FootClothes spooky socks! I need more socks as of lately, and these specific socks would be perfect for my spooky soul.
Just downloaded the magazine and everything looks awsome! I've been experimenting a lot more with makeup recently and trying out some new things with it so I'd definitely be most excited about any of the makeup products!🖤
Hi Lynn and Conor, that was a fantastic video, I really enjoyed what a goth life was like in the 80's this was really amazing, I love how alot of the fashion played a huge part in the Goth scene, so amazing and I'm happy to see all kinds of Goths enjoying life the way they wanted. 😊😊 Thankyou so very much and have a epic day today. 😊😊☺️☺️🤘🤘❤️❤️
It's worth pointing out that the music that came out of the Batcave scene was quite specific, not necessarily related to the wider goth movement. Specimen, Alien Sex Fiend, Sex Gang Children, Sexbeat, were all quite camp and strongly influenced by glam rock. Their music and image were obviously different from scene leaders like Bauhaus, Siouxsie and the Cure. Also, from a book I read about Sisters of Mercy, there was some resentment in Leeds when the Batcave tour came to town, because Leeds had its own scene, which they felt was diluted when people started copying Southern trends. This is part of the reason Eldritch doesn't like being associated with the word "goth".
I'm showing my age here but I went to the Batcave a few times. Like with most scenes there was a hierarchy including a lot of snotty individuals tripping out on their own fabulousness. There were a few bands associated to the club like Specimen and time has not been kind, they sound dreadful, to be honest they did back in the day too. I much preferred the clubs Berlin and Cloud 9 in Manchester.
(In the Eighties, at 19 you wanted to be doing something.) I turned 19 in the summer of '85, & I had no idea what I wanted to do. I was working (part time) in a fabric store and just having a good time. Those were great times though!
Every 'scene' has its gatekeepers. They're irrational people who aren't very bright and quite cowardly, needing an identity to exist. It's very tribal.
definitely agree with the statement of online communities taking Goth way too seriously! I recently went to a small Goth night that happens a few times a year in my city, and the expectations i had vs the reality of how nice everyone actually was and how carefree it felt to just be ourselves and enjoy the music was a very nice experience! it would have been amazing to experience The Bat Cave in all its glory *sigh*
This is absolutely perfect for baby bats! You get so much information on the subculture, fashion, music and everything from this magazine ! On top of that you get the perfect staple goth accessories and makeup ! Best of luck with the competition 🖤🦇
A couple of notes here from someone who knows: 1 It was hard to get a career type job and keep an alt look in the early eighties. 2 A lot of kids were not encouraged to continue studying after leaving school and may have had no one in their family who had gone onto Uni. 3 You could claim unemployment benefit at 16 and actually survive on it (plus maybe a little cash in hand work).
In 1983 I was 21 and I took my first overseas trip from NY to Madrid, Paris, and London. During my week in London, I saw the Batcave from outside, but I didn't go in. I was with a friend and while we didn't have a set itinerary and we did go to a couple of other clubs, I'm not sure why we didn't go to The Batcave even though I know I wanted to go. I regret it now.
Love the 4 to the floor, 80's mixing. Very prime sound I could get lost in it for hours. Seeing clips of young fire brands changing the world, very cool. Wish I could go back for a day and just sit and talk to some of them about the views of youth at the time. So many questions.
Cant wait for my magazine to come in!! I would honestly love anything since this is the first time buying something from a gothic/alt store online lol 🖤
Aaah! I love the vid and I love the digital magazine! 🖤 I am just exited to get the box if I win! Everything in it just seem so cool! 🖤😍🖤 Love your videos so much! So happy you guys popped up on my feed! ❤️🖤
Sadly, the Batcave was just edging before my time, that & I was in Canada. LOL I got into the Goth scene around 1989 & never actually heard of the Batcave until the mid-90's. Dang, I haven't seen a copy of Gothic Beauty in years! Didn't know they were still around! Cool beans! Awesome little magazine! I used to pick it up from a store a friend ran.
Unfortunately as someone who lives in a state where thrifting here is horrible. They genuinely have nothing here that’s looks good or anything to make things with. I’ve resorted to doing patch work for bands I like and putting that onto stuff. But unfortunately it’s hard to “diy” here. Everything for it is also pricey and my mom is kinda strict so yk
Love the discussion about how people don't really take it seriously out at the clubs. When I used to go to one of the best goth clubs I've seen (full time goth, not just a night) people would get annoyed at the frat boys who showed up early for the cheap drinks and made fun of the regulars but someone dressed the same way who was polite, got out there and danced, they were one of us, outfit be damned.
Also, I have the book called Goth Craft by Raven Digitalis. It talks about all types of Goths and different types of religions as well. I even keep in touch with the author.
Got my free copy that I'll start reading shortly and what I remember of this magazine it was hard to find even in bigger cities. I live in the States and well, sometimes the bookstore clerks would look at you askance. Thinking this is going to be a good read based on what I've seen so far. Enough of my rambling on I'm going to hop over to stick my nose in my new (digital) magazine.
im still trying to get around to sinking time into the gothic style, especially since ive always been a fan of the architecture, history and basically everything
That customs officer is so drippy but imo if he had a ruffle shirt like prince that would have seen the bees knees have the ruffle run longer than the suit and chest piece coming out. God I rock that shit they would be calling me lil prince
The magazin is very hard to find in germany and with all of your gorgeous videos, it seems to be such an interesting box. So maybe, my husband and me will try to get it over the internet :)
To be honest I didn't live threw the 80s but I did love threw the 90s and I gotta tell ya the 90s definitely was a interesting time back then I remember I had a girlfriend we didn't date but we were close friends and she had a Gothic style to her we didn't do alot together but I remember going threw this corn maze and it was fun after that we never saw each other again but I will never forget her and how she got me to see things a bit differently and that is never judging a book by it's cover that was definitely a memory to remember
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Hi, I'm new to the goth community, and I just wanted to say that I love your content. This video made me want to open up my own alt club. 😂P. S: I tried to Shazam the instrumental playing at 12:18 but nothing 😭, could you please tell me what song you used to avoid copyright?)
My dad was a member of the Batcave club, he's still got his membership card in his wallet! Its so nice to see people learn about this club, the stories my dad told me were fascinating and it really seemed like the place to be. Also yes, there was a lot of live music from bands but there was also a DJ sets in conjunction so it was a good mixture. A lot of popular Goth artists/groups would also just be there to mingle and not just for performance purposes, I believe Siouxsie was there the most according to my dad
I'm watching along a bit more as well and yeah, the Batcave was a good excuse to dress up according to my Dad as well.
He taught me that a lot of what Goths looked like back then in daily life was really a product of the 70s-80s, such as the larger (usually crimped) hair, a lot of Goths in their daily lives wore sequins, pearls, lighter coloured leggings, layered necklaces, dresses, really typical clothing of the time and there was a surprising amount of colour too. This was completely reflective of what you could see in the 70s-80s, not just among Goths but also the general public and people you'd see featured in magazines it would just be different colour palettes, some personal elements etc.
Younger Goths today seem to completely brush over the fact that most Goths back then were typically not dressed up in their Batcave attire and wearing Trad makeup everyday, they were just wearing regular 70s-80s clothes with their own twist on the colour palettes, some DIY elements to what was reflective of their personal style as a Goth. They'd sometimes wear a little bit of makeup or they'd be completely bare-faced, but having large hair was easy as it was very trendy and not too outlandish to wear in daily life at the time so you'd see that teased, crimped style often outside of the club scene.
But a lot of daily wear was based on what was trending in the 70s-80s, and the Batcave was people's excuse to go all out with their Trad makeup, their DIY outfits that REALLY expressed themselves whether that was their connection to the music, gender identity, sexuality and more. So it did often feel like to a lot of Batcavers, that the club was just a bit of a fashion show at times but it wasn't in a shallow way like you said, it was just an opportunity for most people to wear what they wanted when they otherwise probably couldn't in daily life (for examples their jobs, perhaps fear of judgement etc). It was also a safe place for said identities, sexualities and for people of any race as well, it was an important event for everyone who went and they treated it that way, it was their place to converge and to be with those alike.
I got into the scene in 1983 on the West coast of U.S. Everyone referred to us as "bat-cavers" & "death rockers", no one yet used the term goth. It was very, very common for parents to be against their teens expressing themselves in this way. Many kids would bring their clothes and makeup to school to avoid parental dismay! I remember visiting Skoochies in the summer of '83 in Seattle WA. and a huge number of kids would use the MacDonald's bathroom across the street to put on their clothes and makeup before making an appearance at the club. All of the coolest bat-cavers stayed in front of the club rather than going inside. Inside was mostly for new wave music and culture at that time. We all thrifted and made our own outfits and there was a huge amount of diversity and creativity and uniqueness to each person's appearance. It truly was an amazing and wonderful era! Also, I don't know what you two are drinking these days, but you both get more fetching with each video!
Hahahaah yes! The memories of changing in the bathroom are so true. Ah, the good ol' days.
:) @@rainiaananda9327
Death rockers! Jeez that takes me back.
@@sdalby9127I didn't live in Seattle and was only on a summer holiday for one night there-such a thrilling night for me! I was able to take part in a more local scene in another part of the Pacific Northwest at least! We didn't have a goth club but we did have a new wave dance club where we spooky kids would dance at least.
I still change in a bathroom sometimes! Can’t drive easy with a corset on.
This is cool. I haven't had a copy of this magazine since 2005 because it's not easy to find. Might have to look into these boxes for the wife and I.
They're honestly so great. We use everything we get in them and having the magazine on top to read is such great value! Hope you entered the giveaway! 🦇
I got a bunch, even wrote an article for them. The first issue was black and white. :)
Came across you by accident 😊 I used to go to the Batcave. Brilliant place and brilliant era. I would have been 20. And, yes, I left school at 16, moved from home at 17 and had been working since 16. It was quite normal and we had the ability to go from one job to another quite easily. I feel sorry for the younger generation now. It's just so hard. Xxxx
Same, came across this channel by accident. Early 80's and apparently I dressed like a goth to go clubbing - normal Fri/Sat night, had never heard of the term 'goth' back then. Moved across Australia when I was 16 & got a flat and a job. Can't see how anyone would rent a 16 y.o. a place these days! I now have a 27 y.o. who still lives at home :/ Everyone bags the 80's but there's some great stuff buried there...
You're right, that's something Boomer parents just didn't seem to understand. You can't just quit a job and get another before dinner time, there are fewer jobs and now everything has HR.
My darlings...makeup and jewelry are stunning. 🖤 ❤️ 🖤
Aww, thank you so much 🖤🖤🦇
I dressed this way and listened to all this music starting in 1983-84, shortly after I turned 20 and in college and have kept elements of New Romantic/Goth style with me every day since. It is my artist/vampire comfort zone.
in the early 80's there was massive unemployement in Britain and Ireland, young people leaving school usually were unemployed for at least a year or two. they could have made a feature about a pop disco at the time, and i guarantee the people interviewed in that club would have been unemployed too
My uncle lives in Ireland.
Nothing says Goth like the news segment opening with a tune from The Stray Cats followed up by Golden Earring...at least it ended with a little Bowie.
Great to see you guys again. Hope you’re both doing well and are taking care of yourselves🖤
Great to see you too! We are doing okay! Pushing on with things and hoping they get better soon! Hope all is well with you 🖤🦇
I love Alien Sex Fiend, have a original pressing of Acid Bath and one of the new re pressings of Who's Been Sleeping In My Brain...would have been awesome to see them at The Batcave
It was quite an experience......3 times.
Saw them live. Love them!
Lynn's outfit and makeup looks really beautiful and one of those things in this video reminded me of this story I have from the last couple years of me going to school but I feel like I should save it for a livestream because I like seeing live reactions
Always fun to see how colourful the outfits were during that time. Rarely do goths today go out in blue dresses or grey suits, I feel like, but the vibes are there, for sure.
This was great! I miss the 80s. I would've loved to experience The Batcave, but I was in America- we had the deathrock scene in the 80s. I miss the boots I had back then lol. You could easily buy pikes and winklepickers from the local record store. We did our own piercings with hot needles and wore safety pins-- we DIY'd everything lol.
It was slim pickings in the Midwest. But thifting was looked down upon by normies so it was our domain. $3 boots. $1 black dresses. Prom dresses and lace lingerie repurposed.
I absolutely loved this video and largely agree! It's really about having fun and artistic expression. Every time I got out to a goth club it is a blast and seriously no one cares about what anyone else is wearing or what bands they know (in a good way!). Everyone is just there to enjoy the music and have a great time 🖤🦇🖤
Hey! I'm from the '80s, so this was really interesting to me. I'm from Seattle, and was "Goth adjacent" for a while -- so this brought back a lot of memories. :)
If you ever get out to Brisbane, in Australia, there's a fun shop called The Underworld that you'd enjoy. They probably have a website. But note that they're only open for limited hours. :)
Found you two from the Crow review, which came up in my TH-cam feed. Your assesment was very balanced. You might like the "Double Toasted" and "Pitch Meeting" reviews.
Anyhow -- have checked out a few of your videos. You two are charming. Have subscribed. :)
I'm a newer subscriber too, and off to Brisbane to visit my mum soon. Really hoping to squeeze in a visit to Underworld Realm, it's been years since I got to visit. 🖤
I think I've mentioned this before, I've been in and skirting the Goth Scene since the late 1970's and into the 80's through to today. My "Uniform" back in the early 80's was a pair of Black Levi 505 jeans, a band T-Shirt and my leather bike jacket (the jacket was because in Summer I road a 1969 Honda CB 750 Four, which like an idiot I sold,...ugh.). Now there was definitely a group in the scene in Edmonton Alberta that where a lot more flamboyant and followed a band called "Darkroom". Most of the Friends I had then are still friends now and while some have grown out of the dress portion of the culture we have all never outgrown the music. So far as I'm concerned, so long as you dig the music, you're as Goth as I am. 🦇
Dude, that's exactly how still I dress from high school into my 30s, minus the leather jacket. (I can't afford a real one plus I don't ride lol.)
Do you wear a ring on every finger too? I just can't find one that fits my pink yet lpl
@@undeadknight01 Never really got into jewelry, just wasn't that much around. I wore a silver Mexican/Mayan Calendar pendant for a few years but gave it to a girlfriend as she liked it more than I did. The only ring I wore was my wedding band which I wore for 17 years until my Wife passed away at 49 from complications of Type 1 Diabetes. Now I wear her wedding band on a leather necklace which I have only removed on a couple occasions so it didn't get lost.
Best of luck on your quest to find a ring for your little finger!! Keep the Faith!!
@@canucklehead0 I'm sorry about her passing. Thanks man!
@@undeadknight01 Thank-you, and also thanks for commenting. Not many people take the time to respond anymore and we should be having discussions about what this scene meant to us old bats and what it means to the newer generations. Have a great week Undeadknight01, take care!!
7:58 the progenitor of the corporate goth look😂❤
Lynn!!! Your makeup has been so OUTRAGEOUS!!!
I am in Love Love Love with your beautiful and exotic look!
Dang you two put the scene to shame with the incredible looks your coming up with... OH YES BABY!!!
Thank you so much ! It has taken years of practice for us to have the confidence and skills to even do this makeup! I’m glad you love it!!🖤🦇❤️
While I never got to The Bat Cave I did hang at the local punk/goth/alt club.
All those groups would hang out together because the jocks would leave you alone when we were grouped up.
I’m so happy with the free magazine I haven’t read one in years also I’m most excited is the makeup products and everything that is included 🖤🦇🥰 plus hope your both doing amazing today 🦇🖤 sending lots of hugs and love from California USA
It definitely takes us back when reading magazines again! We love it! It's great to actually see the pictures and text inftont of you and not just on a phone screen! The makeup had been amazing so far and we are so excited to try the white foundation and the heart stamp! We hope you have a great weekend and best of luck with the competition 🖤🖤🦇🦇
Thanks for the free magazine guys. Will check back when I get some ideas for some more videos
I remember years ago (im a death head, death metal fanatic) i met my high school sweetheart she was a goth girl, she loved the band HIM , she got me into it, she always wore these crazy dresses, and always had the best makeup.
Aww that’s sweet! I remember HIM fans always having the best fashion sense!
I was a baby in 83' and haven't been out of the 48 states. Always fun to see old school punks, goths, etc. Honestly if you want to go to a Goth just go it's how they stay in business if no one goes they close because no money. Just be polite and don't be an asshole.
This is so true, support the genre if you enjoy it! I have a retail goth shop & just love the whole range of customers we have! There is no age restriction for being who you want to be x OG goths FTW BTW ;)
Thank you, for the free digital copy 🖤 I'd be excited about everything from the box tbh.
I feel like the amount of unemployment and redundancy in the UK in the 80’s because of Margaret Thatcher spawned, a whole generation of creative people who basically wanted to find something to do to occupy themselves and the Gothic subculture must’ve been a real lifeline for them as it wasn’t that hard to get into these clubs as they were pretty cheap and you didn’t need to be rich to have an interesting DIY gothic aesthetic.
I was a teen in the 80's and it was all about what what you do. It was more important to the older generation. You were what you do. Conforming to the normal was expected. In the early 90's I had to cut my husband long hair for a job.
It seems like such a fun and iconic time but I'm glad things have changed a little bit now when it comes to having long hair and not conforming to normal lifestyles! That sucks having to cut your hair for a job 😩
@@RandomGothCouple 😊 cutting his hair was bitter sweet, we had small kids and they were worth the sacrifice. I do enjoy seeing more and more the world be more open minded to all the alternative cultures.
I love ur channel 🖤 it rlly inspires me to not care what ppl think I don’t have a certain subculture I love goth punk rock n metal
Thank you 🖤 We are so glad to hear that! That's definitely one of our goals! It's okay to just be yourself and listen to and like what ever you want 🖤
I’m not a goth. BUT I am proud to live in the city that birthed the goth subculture- Leeds UK. Specifically Le Phonographique club, the world’s FIRST goth club (sadly now closed) in the Merrion shopping centre. This tiny club (I once bumped into Sisters of Mercy’s Andrew Eldritch in here) had a pillar in the middle of the tiny dancefloor covered in tiny mirror tiles (everything was tiny, ok got it), and legend has it that goths danced the way they did because of the lack of space so would preen themselves in the mirror instead. This club was around BEFORE The Batcave and eventually closed in 2005. Wikipedia article here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Phonographique?wprov=sfti1#History
Imagine how proud you would be if Morrissey was from your town...
I loved going to the Batcave, great times. RIP Olli ❤
Honestly, I'd be grateful for anything that comes in that box! I have been Goth for who knows how long but I've never exactly looked the part. I am getting into the makeup side of things and have so many clothing items and accessories saved in wish lists, through various sites. Anything I won't use or wear, I'd be giving it to my friend who is also Goth so she can get some rad stuff too!
ps: Regardless of the giveaway, I think you two are awesome! You've definitely helped me feel more comfortable showing my Goth side to society where I live and to my family. Much love and I can't wait to see what you guys post next!
Well done to you for taking that step. Life is too short for you not be who you want to be. Channel your inner goth!
Love these videos that look back in time.
Great content. I am not familiar with all things goth, but I really enjoy learning about a culture I have never experienced. As an 80s kid I always enjoyed the music and gravitated toward all music that was alternative.
I love when you guys do videos on this era of the 80's. It's true let your kids be them self. 🤘🤔
1:06 please Connor what song from Karl Casey is that?🙏🏻
That's actually one of my songs! It's part of the copyright free music collection I made for videos and is available on our Patreon 🦇
@@RandomGothCouple will check it then! im watching some old videos of yours rn😈
Oh, and yea, old documentaries of this era DID focus on your employment. But it was not just the television documentaries, it was a BIG part of one's introduction in social situations. "May I introduce Joe Uninteresting, and he's a Hedge Fund Manager", or something like that. We thankfully seem to be getting away from that, or so it would seem.
Hi Random Goth Couple! First off, I wanted to let you know that your videos have consumed all of my free time in recent weeks! Your channel is never-ending gothic entertainment. If I were to receive a gothic beauty box, I would be most excited about the FootClothes spooky socks! I need more socks as of lately, and these specific socks would be perfect for my spooky soul.
I love your guy's eye makeup, I try to do glam eye shadow, and sometimes I whiff it.
Great video, as always! And thank you for the digital copy of Gothic Beauty mag! :D I hope there’s some eyeliner stamps in the Gothic Beauty box ^^
I absolutely love watching all these old videos, it's amazing looking back at all the goths through time X 🖤💥🦇
Just downloaded the magazine and everything looks awsome! I've been experimenting a lot more with makeup recently and trying out some new things with it so I'd definitely be most excited about any of the makeup products!🖤
Hi Lynn and Conor, that was a fantastic video, I really enjoyed what a goth life was like in the 80's this was really amazing, I love how alot of the fashion played a huge part in the Goth scene, so amazing and I'm happy to see all kinds of Goths enjoying life the way they wanted. 😊😊 Thankyou so very much and have a epic day today. 😊😊☺️☺️🤘🤘❤️❤️
Love all your videos are wonderful to watch and love lynn earrings and crown and my wrist is healing nicely.❤❤❤❤❤❤
It's worth pointing out that the music that came out of the Batcave scene was quite specific, not necessarily related to the wider goth movement. Specimen, Alien Sex Fiend, Sex Gang Children, Sexbeat, were all quite camp and strongly influenced by glam rock. Their music and image were obviously different from scene leaders like Bauhaus, Siouxsie and the Cure. Also, from a book I read about Sisters of Mercy, there was some resentment in Leeds when the Batcave tour came to town, because Leeds had its own scene, which they felt was diluted when people started copying Southern trends. This is part of the reason Eldritch doesn't like being associated with the word "goth".
8:28 Perfectly said. 👏 Love these reaction videos. 🖤🦇💀
Loved this! New recommended reading for all subcultures, just do/wear what you like and have fun
Thank you 🖤 Exactly this! Not everything has to be so serious and about rules. Goth was about breaking societal norms and rules!
I always love seeing the 80s footage and recognizing how far we've come!
Great video as always! Thank you for the free download! If you haven't been to New Orleans please come and visit!
Love your style and great videos 🦇🦇
Thank you 🖤🦇🖤🦇
I'm showing my age here but I went to the Batcave a few times. Like with most scenes there was a hierarchy including a lot of snotty individuals tripping out on their own fabulousness. There were a few bands associated to the club like Specimen and time has not been kind, they sound dreadful, to be honest they did back in the day too.
I much preferred the clubs Berlin and Cloud 9 in Manchester.
Another great video. Thanks again
LOL When DOES the ritual begin with all the CENSORED, because I've never been there for that!
(In the Eighties, at 19 you wanted to be doing something.)
I turned 19 in the summer of '85, & I had no idea what I wanted to do. I was working (part time) in a fabric store and just having a good time. Those were great times though!
By the 90s there were already people who were Gothier-Than-Thou.
Every 'scene' has its gatekeepers. They're irrational people who aren't very bright and quite cowardly, needing an identity to exist. It's very tribal.
definitely agree with the statement of online communities taking Goth way too seriously! I recently went to a small Goth night that happens a few times a year in my city, and the expectations i had vs the reality of how nice everyone actually was and how carefree it felt to just be ourselves and enjoy the music was a very nice experience! it would have been amazing to experience The Bat Cave in all its glory *sigh*
Love you guys 🖤🖤
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I enjoy seeing the young people from the past and what they said. The reporters ... Not so much!
I had no idea that there was a magazine! That's really cool. I'm a baby bat and good makeup and accessories are what I anticipate the most tbh.😁
This is absolutely perfect for baby bats! You get so much information on the subculture, fashion, music and everything from this magazine ! On top of that you get the perfect staple goth accessories and makeup ! Best of luck with the competition 🖤🦇
Thanks for the download. I have several paper copies of Gothic Beauty but nothing too new. Hopefully I won’t get a ton of junk mail.
This and you last unboxing of Gothic Beauty makes me want to find my stash of early 2000 copies. Thanks for the free copy ^-^
A couple of notes here from someone who knows: 1 It was hard to get a career type job and keep an alt look in the early eighties. 2 A lot of kids were not encouraged to continue studying after leaving school and may have had no one in their family who had gone onto Uni. 3 You could claim unemployment benefit at 16 and actually survive on it (plus maybe a little cash in hand work).
Thank you for the Gothic Magazine link. I ended up ordering my daughter some socks from Foot Clothes.
Love how wholesome the vibe of your videos is. Keep up the good work!
I do too.
The first thing imma get with my first pay check is a Gothic beauty box 🤭 so exited !
In 1983 I was 21 and I took my first overseas trip from NY to Madrid, Paris, and London. During my week in London, I saw the Batcave from outside, but I didn't go in. I was with a friend and while we didn't have a set itinerary and we did go to a couple of other clubs, I'm not sure why we didn't go to The Batcave even though I know I wanted to go. I regret it now.
Love the 4 to the floor, 80's mixing. Very prime sound I could get lost in it for hours. Seeing clips of young fire brands changing the world, very cool. Wish I could go back for a day and just sit and talk to some of them about the views of youth at the time. So many questions.
What questions?
When I was 19 I wanted to look for work and still attend shows oh I miss reading gothic beauty 😊
Outstanding! Thank you for sharing your info to an awesome box! I adore your show!
Hey unlike the other 80's videos you have shown they didn't talk about vampires!!!
Cant wait for my magazine to come in!! I would honestly love anything since this is the first time buying something from a gothic/alt store online lol 🖤
YES!! The 80’s A Wonder Era For Goth Fashion, Very Diverse . Love My Era 🖤💜🖤🎵
Conner looks amazing!!!!!!🖤🖤🖤🖤❤❤❤
I love your vids, and both of your vibes you give off.keep up the great work!!!
Aaah! I love the vid and I love the digital magazine! 🖤 I am just exited to get the box if I win! Everything in it just seem so cool! 🖤😍🖤
Love your videos so much! So happy you guys popped up on my feed! ❤️🖤
Would be so cool to win the gothic beauty box! I've loved your past unboxing videos on it. I would love to see more!
Wishing you the best of luck! 🖤🦇🦇
This is great, I love these videos, and the comments are delightfully insightful as well!
i got my Gothic Beauty Mag! i’m so excited for the face stamps and just anything they send out - i want to play out with some new looks 🥰
Just reclaimed my free copy and im so excited it's my first goth magazine!
Excited for you ! This magazine is the perfect gothic read!! 🖤👏
My favortie gothic couple you both make my day fun.
I used to frequent 'The System/Planet X' in Liverpool.
I wish I was at the Batcave so I enjoyed it. Love the commentary.
I downloaded the digital magazine :)
Not sure what to expect in the beauty box but I'd be happy with anything that's in it.
I love your reaction videos! For me that is high quality video!
It's always a pleasure to watch you guys❤️🖤❤️
Sadly, the Batcave was just edging before my time, that & I was in Canada. LOL I got into the Goth scene around 1989 & never actually heard of the Batcave until the mid-90's. Dang, I haven't seen a copy of Gothic Beauty in years! Didn't know they were still around! Cool beans! Awesome little magazine! I used to pick it up from a store a friend ran.
Unfortunately as someone who lives in a state where thrifting here is horrible. They genuinely have nothing here that’s looks good or anything to make things with. I’ve resorted to doing patch work for bands I like and putting that onto stuff. But unfortunately it’s hard to “diy” here. Everything for it is also pricey and my mom is kinda strict so yk
Good times. Would've loved to go there.
Love the discussion about how people don't really take it seriously out at the clubs. When I used to go to one of the best goth clubs I've seen (full time goth, not just a night) people would get annoyed at the frat boys who showed up early for the cheap drinks and made fun of the regulars but someone dressed the same way who was polite, got out there and danced, they were one of us, outfit be damned.
Lynn, your crown is beautiful
Thank you 🖤 It's a cheap one I found online and painted it to be darker colors! 👑
Also, I have the book called Goth Craft by Raven Digitalis. It talks about all types of Goths and different types of religions as well. I even keep in touch with the author.
@elizabethlynch6544 Ohh that sounds great! We will definitely look it up! Maybe one day we can do a video on gothic books too!
Got my free copy that I'll start reading shortly and what I remember of this magazine it was hard to find even in bigger cities. I live in the States and well, sometimes the bookstore clerks would look at you askance. Thinking this is going to be a good read based on what I've seen so far. Enough of my rambling on I'm going to hop over to stick my nose in my new (digital) magazine.
I'd be most exited to get the accessories in the box they always look so pretty!
Pearl strand guy is chef’s kiss.
Great to look back 🦇🦇🦇great video thank you
im still trying to get around to sinking time into the gothic style, especially since ive always been a fan of the architecture, history and basically everything
That customs officer is so drippy but imo if he had a ruffle shirt like prince that would have seen the bees knees have the ruffle run longer than the suit and chest piece coming out. God I rock that shit they would be calling me lil prince
love these videos so much! 🖤🖤🖤
The magazin is very hard to find in germany and with all of your gorgeous videos, it seems to be such an interesting box. So maybe, my husband and me will try to get it over the internet :)
My ancestors are from there.
I love this your channel guys
To be honest I didn't live threw the 80s but I did love threw the 90s and I gotta tell ya the 90s definitely was a interesting time back then I remember I had a girlfriend we didn't date but we were close friends and she had a Gothic style to her we didn't do alot together but I remember going threw this corn maze and it was fun after that we never saw each other again but I will never forget her and how she got me to see things a bit differently and that is never judging a book by it's cover that was definitely a memory to remember
love your videos !! 🖤🖤🖤