Goths React To 80s Trad Goths
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- Today we dive into some more clips from Goths in the UK in the 80s. This time we're checking out Trad Goths at the club and shopping for spooky threads in London!
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I am 51 years of age, and I embraced Punk, Metal & Goth aesthetics since the late 1980s to the present. Thank you for the Darkness and More. 😈
I'm 2 years behind ya, and I did the same growing up in the late 80's
I am 51 too and this just feels home for me. Cannot stop smiling 🖤🖤🖤
I envy you!!! 😭
47, but yep!
Satan hates you and all your being and God loves you more than you even know, yet everyone in this thread would rather follow satan and reject the Lord Jesus, would you truly rather sin in full rebellion and embrace eternal hell instead of abiding in the love of God and embrace eternal life.
John 6:66-69 (KJV) From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
Mark 8:34-38 (KJV) And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
Got to love reporters that try and pin obvious stereotypes, then get flustered when it comes undone
You can see the despair in their eyes and its magnificent ✨
YES! The total fail when they try to figure it out warms the heart.
I'm a 59 year old goth and here for this video! 🖤
I feel exactly the same way about hairdressers - I cut and colour my own hair too. We all had a real diy attitude towards hair, clothing etc. , it started in the late 70's and just carried on from there.
That's amazing!! Love your makeup! Happy to hear from you 🖤🕸️🦇
wow thats cool man keep it up man!!!
I am 17 year old goth and I have been a goth for a year and its cool I love wearing makeup and dressing up you guys give me a reason to not care what anyone says and I will keep watching your videos and supporting you guys!!!
Options tend to narrow down once the hair thins 😅
Glad to hear that 🖤🖤🖤
Showing my age. I saw a very early Bad Seeds gig and Screaming Jay Hawkins was the support and he was fantastic. Came out in a Pink velvet suit holding a skull on a stick with a bone through his nose. Already an old man. Everybody loved it. I think it was about 1985.
That sounds absolutely iconic and amazing!
It's interesting to look back in time and realize that the gothic subculture hasn't changed much.
Honestly none of those people would look out of place in a club today. Goth is timeless. Undead undead undead... 💀
This is good to know. On a few occasions I dress goth. I love to watch how people react to how I am dressed.
Lynn's getting more and more confident on camera - look at her projecting and annunciating and everything‼️ Absolutely adore y'all🎈☠️🎈
Conor didn't wanna talk much on this one so I had to take the lead 😂 But I appreciate the kind words! Thanks so much ❤️🦇❤️🦇
I’m 54. I LOVE goth. I don’t dress goth but I’ve always loved everything about it. Especially the music and fashion. My sister has been goth 30+ years
52 year old here, Goth in my [Cornish] Secondary school was pretty much Cure heads/Sisters of Mercy/Joy Division, availability of the fashions was pretty hard back then, some would get labelled "Top shop Goths" [Getting most of there stuff from High Street shops and just 'wearing it' with not much creativity, where the 'cool kids' Thrifted stuff] and I remember the sharp intakes of air as one Goth girl started wearing Purple a bit too [Velvets, Converse etc] I remember one kid in my year his mum went crazy cos he stretched his school jumper out all Robert Smith-like and another Girl her Mum Boil washed/bleached all her Goth stuff cos she found out she'd been taking Photos in a graveyard
I like the unshaven look. I also like the upside down crosses.
Yeah, more 80s & 90s reactions, please. I grew up in the 80s - it was a weird time. I was a school kid. I really don’t know how I ended up all normal with my own fashion; I listen to blackmetal, European symphonic metal and yeah, other stuff like jazz and classical too. To me it all makes sense but I’m definitely not normal😂✊🤟🏼🪸.
Touching on Interview With The Vampire before the hit movie coming out, The Damned actually had made a very gothic song in 1982 called The Dog and it was a song about Claudia from Interview!
Was there a dog in that book?
I remember late 80s Kensington high street was goth central. But I totally agree with the guy with the black and white hair, it goes back long before and refers to music, literature, film, and art of the gothic style and influence.
Don't you mean mid ?
lmfao
Whether used "ironically" or seriously, Toccata and Fugue in D minor, on pipe organ or w/ full orchestration is absolutely beautiful !!!
Lynn! I think you'd look **impeccable** in platinum blonde hair !! I could totally see you rock a creepy dolly vibe in certain outfits with it or be like that quintessential platinum/white-haired vampire girly in vampire novels (which ps- I loved that girly she was always named "Luna" or "Star" and just a sweetpea) ♡
51 years old here and this is when I discovered goths and I knew as a child that I loved this, turns out I was right. I haven't looked back since.
The stuff they put in the interviewers drink totally kicked in all at once, LOL. :)
Haha he definitely started to feel the love 😂
Haha, I always said you don't have to be in just one box. No matter if it's the style or even music.
And yes, modify and do diy was a must back then.
Myself worked early and also have an engineer education, so I agree that they always think we are and were unemployed.
Love see those clips from 80s. Definitive the time I miss most.
Thanks for a great reaction video Connor and Lynn. 🦇🖤🖤🖤🖤🦇
I've almost always cut and coloured my own hair since the 80's (elder goth here)-I've almost always been unhappy when I have paid a professional for it! I think your hair looks great Lynn!
that second interviewer is a real piece of work
Conor you look like Dave Navarro from ink master when you don't shave. Cool. 😄🖤
You could definitely see the punk influence at that time. I was in high school in the 80s so it wasn't too common to see too much of the goth/punk look. It was more blue jean jackets and chain look. Not sure what they called that.
Jeebus Lynn....your hair and makeup today is friggin stunning!! 😮
Awww thank you so much! I was a mess at the time but feeling better now 🖤
The facial hair passes the vibe check you should keep it!
It's gone again! Maybe I'll bring it back one day! Thanks!
Hiya. I'll join in with my fellow 50+ crowd. Obviously we did our own hair, and thrift store shopping was the way to go. The bingo card was hilarious. I cheered when that one guy mentioned The Smiths. Anyway, the TH-cam algorithm has blessed me by dropping you two amazing and gorgeous humans in my shorts feed. I'm off to binge watch the lot. Cheers!
Please have the Screaming Blood Drop intro. Beard looks dope, and was nice to learn that KawaiiBatFangz takes inspiration from vampires. Seriously though, was interesting to learn more about the subculture and the types of people who connect with goth. Also, I do my own hair. You think mohawks like these come at any random chop shop?! No thanks Sweeney Todd!
Maybe we will do a new intro if we hit 50k! Hahaha yess who would have known 🦇 Your hair always looks so good !! You do a great job !
I'm also in my shovel buying years,57! A metal head, but absolutely love anything spooky , the 80s were special, thinking about it does a melancholy heart ache some good, keep it going, don't ever let it end,cheers!
Always so happy to see a new upload from my favorite goth couple! 🦇🖤 The sound effects in this video really got me. Absolutely brilliant 😂
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed them! 🖤🖤🖤
Oops wrong account 😂😂
I'm a 47 year old goth mom from a small town. This video made me feel seen. Thank you 🖤
I didn't realise it until recently but Screaming Lord Such was one of the pioneers of Shock Rock, his stage shows included elements that later would be incorporated in to Alice Cooper's shows.
I loved their hairstyles in this! Super cute! Tysm for the amazing channel rec!!! Great find! 🖤🖤🖤
Hair goals! Thanks for watching!🖤
I love watching these videos! I really like hearing them talk about their hair and clothes and all the music they listened to
Any body type is the right body type for any look you want Conor.
Thank you Sean, you're right 🦇
that beard is certainly a look on u tho!! hope ure gonna do well soon
I can announce that the beard is now gone! 🧔♂️🚫Thank you!! 🖤
Great to see you both again. So awesome to see these old clips
As someone who works at an oxfam I’m glad to see that it’s alright
It's better than alright! I love it there haha
Your videos always keep me glued to the screen they are so varied and entertaining brilliant 💀🖤🦇
My sweet autumn children xwhile us elders where fixing invisible light bulbs into the many nightclub covers you're births was foretold, thank you for this blast to thr past xxx
I feel ya on the mental health thing C. Stay strong man.
- your brother from SC
Thanks! You too 🖤
1:22 That needs to be the new channel intro now. 🤣👏 Loved the video. 🖤🦇💀
i absolutely love binging you're guys videos, you're so entertaining your style is amazing
Thank you so much!! Glad you enjoy them 🦇
Remember the influence of what you mentioned, the early 90's movies which were a great inspiration for looks. Films like The Crow, Bram Stokers Dracula and yes, Interview with a Vampire. I remember the sudden increase of male makeup after The Crow whilst clubbing. One club I remember had a video with sound off on a big screen with these films playing. Another video you may be interested in is "The Oldest Goth Club in the World: Slimelight" even if it's not one you comment on.
I love you guys so much! After an extended, forced "normie" phase and subsequent mental health desert, y'all are helping me heal and reclaim who I really am. Lynn, I completely agree about hairdressers. I haven't let anyone else touch my hair since probably 1987. . Connor, the facial hair looks good. It kind of reminds me of the Master from the Tom Baker era Doctor Who. I like these explorations of goth history. I live in the USA. Where I grew up at, I was the only goth in the state. What little exposure I had to rest of the goth/punk/alt world was through an American version of a British magazine, I think it would have been called Smash Hits there, and some music documentaries on late night tv. Even so, I can check off most of the boxes on your bingo card. Again, I love you guys. Thank you for being here for me.
Star Hits! I loved that magazine! (from a fellow 80s US Goth)
It's sad it's a mental health thing (hope you'll feel better soon but it's a process I know) but you look so good in beard, Connor!
There were a lot of vampire moves pre- Interview With a Vampire (1994). The Hunger was a big one, and there were a couple of comedies, including Vamp, with Grace Jones, and Fright Night. The Lost Boys also pre-dates IWaV by seven years.
I didn't have much to do with Goth back then but I remember the very brief New Romantics craze that lasted about the length of a sneeze before merging into Goth in the early eighties. Everybody's hair stood on end like that during the eighties... very scary period because of Thatcher.
I love your channel and your videos! Definitely, make more videos like this in the future. Cheers!
I would love to see more of this type of video 🖤
Thank you, might revive the 90s goths videos because those are our favourite looks! 💀
Currently watching while sewing a little bat plushie
I haven't been able to delve far into goth culture, but I've had an admiration for many years. Whether I fit in or not, there's so much to appreciate about goth/punk/grunge/alt. I can get being disappointed by the manufactured appropriation done by corporations, though.
Great video!! Viewing these videos are great because like you said, it gives us an insight into the past and that’s super cool! I hope Conner is feeling better soon :3
Okay, if I haven't made it clear yet, I think you guys are wonderful. I'm writing this from inside Seattle's Goth danceclub, The Mercury and I was thinking. You guys have said that you have Goth Nights in Ireland and I would love to see what your clubs are like. Do you have a favorite Deejay? Do they play traditional Goth, or is it more rock. I'm interested in seeing what the scene is like for you guys. Well, until next time see you in your nightmares!
Hi there, Oh wow, Goth in the 80's, I absolutely love this video, I really like how they did their looks on the make up and hair, totally epic. 😊😊🤘🤘 Thankyou so much for the video, I can't wait to see more, have a epic day guys. 😊😊
I am also a 59 year old Goth always and forever 💋💋💋
Love you guys ❤❤❤
🦇🍷 ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
The second one on this is a clip from a 2 hour long video on TH-cam called The height of goth 1984 a night at Xclusiv nightclub Batley. I was a goth at this time in nearby Leeds and while I never went to this particular club the music, the looks and the dancing are spot on for northern England at this time. Very different to the scene in London at that time.
Thanks so much for that information! We will definitely check the rest of that out! Ohhh that's great! Interesting to know that!
Eh vampires,, dark mythology, witches, horror. Like an interest AS A SUBJECT, hobbies or as a style, I think its okay. (The unbelievable thing is that people STILL asume the same things now). As long as youre not kidnapping people CA them and torture people to..."you know" by skinning them alive. I like the Johnny the homicidal maniac comics. Doesnt mean I want to k-word everyone that wears bellbottoms. (thinks to myself for a while). Nah, live and let live, I say. As long as I dont have to wear them.
I can tell you a couple of things that had a really big influence on what became Goth culture in the early 1980s. First of all was late night weekend TV from about 1978-1984. This was kind of like the graveyard shift in TV programming schedules and both BBC and ITV really went to town on it. They basically got hold of all the B-movie horror flicks from the 1960s, all the long out of circulation classic Hollywood monster movies (Frankenstein etc), Sci-fi bug and alien movies from the 1950s, The Outer Limits, The Twilight Zone, Mad scientist movies, Hammer horror etc, and just showed them all back to back for 4 solid hours until about 1.30 in the morning. All the punks stayed up and watched these and absorbed it all. Once it started to show an influence in music they just went with it, they totally got what it was about. This TV had a way bigger influence than anything Alice Cooper or Screaming Lord Sutch or Screaming Jay bloody Hawkins might have done.
The other thing was the clothes you could find in second-hand shops. Sure, punks would often go along to Oxfam or some other charity shop and pick up various old rags that took their fancy. But there was a better class of second hand gear which could be found in proper antique and second hand shops, stuff the charity shops wouldn't take because they thought it was too old-fashioned. Well these were decent well-made clothes and these second hand shops took care to look after them and present them properly. The girls would go after the black Victorian mourning dresses and corsets and lace and granny ankle boots, and the lads would come away with grandad shirts and overcoats.
Also another thing that's been totally overlooked by 'Goth historians' is the sound these early Goths made. Everyone was very keen on thin silver bracelets, like 50 at a time, and these made a jangling sound as you walked along. You could hear a Goth coming up the stairs before they even got to the bar. The girls would also wear ankle cuffs with loads of tiny bells. I think they got this idea from Siouxsie, but still they were very popular at the time.
8:22 - That's the guy from Nosferatu... so not surprising he does the vampire thing...
Love how the videos are set in Yorkshire, my home county!
I was death rock in the 80's at least they are asking these people questions here in colorado usa they just used to call me Elvira like thats all they could figure out about it!!!
I have always loved the Trad Goth look. Musically, I listen to a lot of 80s and 90s goth, although i'm trying to get into some more modern bands. In the 90s I dressed more Corporate Goth as it was easier to grab from my wardrobe. I listen to a lot of genres, so I'm glad that the Trad Goths as well as the Random Goth Couple encourage the exploration of multiple genres. That's how we get cross over genres like Gothabilly, etc. Go listen to Zombie Ghost Train, you won't regret it. Just remember, the main message is to do your own thing, embrace the music, pay attention to the art an literature. Fashion should actually be the last aspect of your Gothness, and express your true spirit.
Really enjoyed your video 😊thank you
Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching! 🖤
Recently came across your videos and have been binge watching them. Love your take on goth culture, music, influence and history. Would love to see a video on goth icons. Maybe there's a few that aren't commonly known outside goth circles? Is Nancy from The Craft considered goth or merely taking on gothic aesthetic? Or pop culture icons that maybe misconstued as goth. Would love both your thoughts as you're both very entertaining while informative. Keep up GOTH-ED (goth education XD).
Those Pumpkin Pizza Balls were more damaging to Conor than originally thought..
😂😂🧔♂️ For real though my stomach still hurts from them ! Hoping it's just from too much cheese 🧀🫣 Never again - Lynn
Oxfam's alright innit 🤙
After yall cut the last video before the end, the guy with the two chicks at the end answered his favorite groups were Specimen, The Birthday Party, The Cramps, Alien Sex Fiend and Virgin Prunes.
Ugh the person that was interviewing the goths in the club was not it, he did not pass the vibe check whatsoever.
I'm late to watching this video because I'm out camping lol I listen to all kinds of music my playlist is crazy lol but I do listen to goth music as well. Much love to you all. 🖤🖤
Hope you had a great time camping! We have never been camping before! Much love back to you 🖤
From an outsider goth just seems like a fashion choice. I don't know if there's more to it then that.
I used to like to dress kinda goth sometimes. It was fun!
I don't know if it bothers people who dress goth all the time. Sorry if it does. I just like to play with fashion sometimes.
My dad said one the craziest bands he seen back in the 90s was ministry he went to a couple concerts of theirs. Long story short the first one he was at there was a brawl and he got hit in the back of the head with a chunk of asphalt/mud busted his head wide open and knocking him out(this was before they started caiging their stages with fence). I asked what happened next he said he woke up with a headache and kept drinking/moshing. It took the headache away but made him bleed even worse all over people and everything no one gave a fuck 😂 he did get stitches after the concert. He also said this was the first time he seen or been in a wall of death pretty much everyone slips into two then runs full force into each other in waves pretty insane. My dad went to probably over 100 concerts through his twenty's.
Cool video and i'm liking the facial hair Conor :)
I got some soundtracks on vinyl😂 3:10 and who doesn't like Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D Minor!?!? Night on Bald Mountain is actually a really good one by Stokowski I would use that one as an intro personally 😊
4:36 trust me I'm not into crazy color hair not my thing, but I think peekaboos are adorable just an idea.
Praying you feel better.
Love yall videos
I thought Conor had drawn the face fuzz on lol.
Omg hahah 😂💀💀 Next video I will have to draw some on - Lynn
This was a blast from my past for sure
Love the Trad Goth look...well most of it.
You guys remind me of the couple in total drama, in the last season.
My god I love your guys makeup. It’s so pretty.
I have to laugh at the first clip because they show two heavy metal (rocker) girls. in the 80"s any subculture was called "goth" from mainstream people. the girl with black hair with wide blonde streaks and the girl with the long blonde hair wear cut off shortes over tight with high heels was Metal.
I'm 53 and a "metal head", I agree, listen to over type music doesn't make you less then what subculture you consinder yourself part of. there is more to the diffrent subcuture then the music that's why the are called "subculture". (a small culture in a larger culture).
That would be cool if the Mercury in Seattle would mix in the Monkees or Glen Miller!
Are those glasses? Cool. If you wish for intro like that make one. One trip to some old cementary with camera and applying some filters a little editing and you are set.
Awesome. Very entertaining
Gothic KingCobraJFS brought me here. Cool channel, TWU!
5:15 soooo true- what sucks is that people are confusing what’s actually gothic influenced, they call it emo. Or grunge 🙈 like LEARN the differences people lol.
I really love the non-shaven look. It's short and neat, and it makes your make-up look for aesthetically unique. I dunno mate. It's cool! 🖤👌🏻
Thank you! Unfortunately it's gone now! But might bring something similar back soon!
I think i stumbled into the wrong section of the internet. I'm not sure how I got here but the video was interesting and you should totally do the blood drip channel intro.
What we think of as trad goth makeup now and in the 80s was definitely cringe to me in the 90s. Loved it in the 80s and now. Still in California, extreme trad makeup does not seem common - at least not at the clubs and shows and stuff I go too
It's funny to me because it seems like it cycles every decade, popular in the 80s, unpopular in the 90s, popular again early 00s, unpopular 2010s and not its popular again.
In particular I'm talking about not just the makeup style but the use of colours/neons etc. Starting to see more extreme trad goth looks in Ireland with younger alternatives now too which is wild because it was never THAT popular here even in the 80s. Its hard to find any archive video/photos from Ireland in that time period of anyone with the siouxsie makeup. So we only took 40 years to catch up 😅
@@RandomGothCouple Interesting. Mainstream fashion often is 20-25 year cycle. Irl 2000s was still more simple makeup in comparison to what’s featured online now but things got more colorful and way more diverse fashion styles than before the way i remember it for a typical show or club or straight up t-shirt jeans. For shows and clubs people seemed to put way more effort in “hardcore” looks pre 2000s. More people having natural color hair 😅 Early 2010s I don’t remember much off-hand irl but a general hipstersization say Cold Cave or Lebanon Hanover video looks and in general I started wondering why social media was extremely colorful makeup and questioning all the dots and lines on faces lol. I fancied the dots - beauty marks though. The late 2010s and now I’ve been so impressed with newcomers modernizing trad. And I have a young adult/youth theory of filters normalizing a lot of stuff on the face creating a natural gravitation of bold makeup. A bit of a mainstream alignment moment say like that show Euphoria. As long as people are having fun experimenting with their creativity and self as a canvas, I’m appreciative and often inspired.
Ahhh I found your other videos! Binge tiiime
Thanks! Would like to contribute to Lynn's tattoo fund!! 🦇🖤
Thanks so much 🖤🦇 - Lynn
Loved this video!!.
Lynn, can I please ask where you brought your top from ?? I love it!! 💜
I got it from Penneys/Primark on sale like 7 years ago 😂 and then the dress is from Dark in love! And thank you 🖤
Imo the most gotic band is The Smiths cause of lyrical content
I've just come across this video of yours about Trad Goths and I really truthfully enjoyed it......especially the part with the interview with the young female reporter and the way thar the TV reporter was trying to be as cool as possible without basically saying......." Get ya coat luv."...... "you've pulled"!!! Hilarious....yes those were the days....As you have probably have gathered , as what you modern Goths call us now.....i to am a
Trad Goth or an Original first blood as we prefer, but Trad will do, just out of curiosity this for Lyn.......do these false fangs rub on the inside of your mouth as you seem to be in a little discomfort when speaking in your video. Just an observation, no malice in tended.
Johnny. (V"""V).
Howard Moon didn't shave his beard when him and Vince dated those 2 Goth chics.I wouldn't worry
dearest @random goth couple, while i was listening to spotify, moby's go came on and it reminded me of the early 1990's ravey-rave scene... then checking out in the 10 items or less line. i find it equally entertaining and confusing that the generation that supposedly melted their brains with E now have settled down and produced children. for decades now popular songs from have been purchased, reworked and used to sell everyday products (and medications depending on where you are on the earth) the rebellious tunes we knew will be consumed by corporations like the borg consumed captain picard. i was curios what tunes current tunes do you think will be used to sell products and what products would they be?
I used to have the most amazing winkle pickers with skulls my hair was crazy teased I love this style so much and I am 48 now still have my inner goth 🖤🐈⬛🖤
The whole thing was so young vampyre could come out of the crypt and be themselves. It just so happened a lot of them were also punk/new wave/glam. Human history can say whatever it wants…
where did the interviewer get his mic from looks like it came free in a packet of cereal
I have no fashion, just scrubs and pajamas 💀
1:26 Yes, please! It’s perfect 🖤🖤🖤
I really love your videos!🖤🖤🖤 Where is the intro song from?
I believe Conor wrote it himself! I think he said in a Q&A that most background music in the videos is by him.
@@ThreadBomb Oh, thank you!
Vlad Yanicek and Damien DeVille (Nösferätu) in video 1
I don't think that's her real partner that's a different man😂😂😂
I need those glasses 🖤