Why This 23 Year Old's Jaguar S-Type R is a Cool BMW Alternative

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  • Today I'm looking at another fast Jaguar owned by a young petrolhead. This is Alex's S-Type R. The S-Type is an odd car even by Jag standards, with deliberately retro styling but actually somewhat modern underpinnings. It rode a wave of nostalgic design common in the early 2000s, but wasn't all that well received.
    The R is a hot version, with Jag's 4.2L supercharged V8 up front. Does that give this cat some bite?
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ความคิดเห็น • 681

  • @roadwarrior1459
    @roadwarrior1459 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Uncle had a 2004 S type R. It was an animal. Will always have a soft spot for these.

  • @iHaveTheDocuments
    @iHaveTheDocuments 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    It may be the pride of England but we Americans love Jaguars.

    • @battyflaps5410
      @battyflaps5410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      are you the Jag WAR type or Jag U Ar type?

    • @nickp97
      @nickp97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jag War only way it's that or Jagggg

    • @calumreiden2753
      @calumreiden2753 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But you can't pronounce its name correctly

    • @dess5500
      @dess5500 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should ford owned them when this crap where made.

    • @rasta6603
      @rasta6603 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Garry Ellison lmao shut up and jus call it a jag

  • @wojciechorzechowski2211
    @wojciechorzechowski2211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I am 28 and I got my S-type as well :D This cas has a soul!

    • @ireneuszpyc6684
      @ireneuszpyc6684 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jaguar S-Type: 1800 kilogramów - to jest krowa;
      miałem Mazdę RX-8 R3 (1300 kilogramów, 228 koni mechanicznych): lekki, zwinny, sportowy

    • @wojciechorzechowski2211
      @wojciechorzechowski2211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ireneuszpyc6684 Jakbym chciał sportowe autor to wybralbym coś innego, ale dla mnie ważne są przyjemne dla oka wnętrze i komfort jazdy. Obie rzeczy mam w S typie. Po za tym Mazda ma częste problemy z silnikiem.

    • @ireneuszpyc6684
      @ireneuszpyc6684 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wojciechorzechowski2211 jeździłem nią 2 lata, tysiące kilometrów, nie było problemów z niczym

    • @wojciechorzechowski2211
      @wojciechorzechowski2211 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ireneuszpyc6684 Ale o czym my tu w ogóle rozmawiamy... Miał Pan Każde to super ale to porównanie nie ma sensu. To tak jak porównywac Bugatti i Lamborghini... Oba szybkie ale ludzie kupują je z innych względow...

    • @ireneuszpyc6684
      @ireneuszpyc6684 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wojciechorzechowski2211 1800 kilograms of "soul" L.O.L.

  • @keithw4920
    @keithw4920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Wanting a Supercharged RWD V8 is not indicative of an older soul, just a driver's soul.

    • @alangordon2511
      @alangordon2511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's 4wd still a lot of car for the price

    • @NomadJRG
      @NomadJRG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@alangordon2511 no it is rwd all power goes to the rear wheels

    • @alangordon2511
      @alangordon2511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NomadJRG you are right enough I am sure I read somewhere before they were 4wd but checked again and they are definitely rwd

  • @ChrissyThePoo
    @ChrissyThePoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    And once again I go once auto trader and have a browse. Damn you Jay I really can't afford this habit.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      How do you think I feel lol

    • @mrdayumfine109
      @mrdayumfine109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@JayEmmOnCars tell me about it....
      I saw an old rally video yesterday.
      And now I'm messaging someone about the Forester STI they have for sale....
      And I only bought my championship white FN2 a few months ago 🤦‍♂️

    • @p.informatico1320
      @p.informatico1320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mrdayumfine109 Get a Ford Puma 1.7, and you will have one of the most fun cars you can buy for less than 2.000 pounds...

    • @davespooney8472
      @davespooney8472 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@p.informatico1320 and one that is on the cusp of shooting up in value, as old Fords that drive well do 👍

    • @Madeinlondon67
      @Madeinlondon67 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I buy them for breaking. Anyone got any petrol v6 ones for sale please dm me.

  • @TheBendalina
    @TheBendalina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Respect to Alex for having such a lovely car at 23 what a sensible young chap. 👍

    • @TheLEGOguy1212
      @TheLEGOguy1212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm 21 and this is my dream car haha! Trying my best to get one as soon as I can afford it. Most guys my age hate them, I don't get it!

    • @iibise.3827
      @iibise.3827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TheLEGOguy1212 I’m 18 and bought one. I bought it by accident I was never even looking for one I was just looking for a regular v8 s type but an R turned up in my area just as I was going to go look at another car

    • @TheLEGOguy1212
      @TheLEGOguy1212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iibise.3827 How are you finding the car? Easy to live with, much going wrong with it?

    • @iibise.3827
      @iibise.3827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheLEGOguy1212 the car is the best I’ve had so far when it comes to fun, looks, and performance. Very very easy car to work on just a little tight sometimes. Currently in the process of rebuilding the entire cooling system. If you know how to do your own work it’s affordable and I know how to get my parts cheap so I love it especially the supercharger whine. But it’s a European trust me there’s always something wrong lol

  • @NorthernsoulBoy63
    @NorthernsoulBoy63 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's the most Beautiful 4 door jaguar ever made in my opinion

  • @kevinbarry71
    @kevinbarry71 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This car of course was one of the first jaguars under Ford. They were certainly a step up in terms of reliability. They were also sold in the United States, and Ford also sold a similar version of the car as the Lincoln LS. They're mostly gone now also. Now that they are old, the fact that they are filled with Ford components makes them easier to work on. But as you say, most people did not consider these cars very special

  • @Scala598
    @Scala598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    used to really hate these (non type r) mostly for the looks, however in the context of modern cars this one is actually really appealing

    • @california3527
      @california3527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Take a look at 1963 Jaguar S-type sir. For me white pearl from 2005-2008 is awesome.

    • @charliekarting3401
      @charliekarting3401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I know what you mean, if find myself looking back & reassessing cars like the S type because I don't like the newer plastic bags of rubbish, lol

    • @nickarcher4775
      @nickarcher4775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I had one ......sold it ...... looking back now I never should have ......the shove either in gear or off the line used to make my phone fly out the holder ......always made me giggle childishly ......
      The long distance drive was sublime , I used to drive to Wales, Cornwalland Scotland instead of flying because the drive was genuinely enjoyable ......

    • @robertwoodliff2536
      @robertwoodliff2536 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's the front end looks....and that grill is such a fake....just looks like they were hole filling.

    • @stevec6427
      @stevec6427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. I hate the looks but they're a bargain because of those looks. The standard S Type is very comfortable but dull and not well made but the S Type R is much better and the cheapest way to go that fast.

  • @6ettinold
    @6ettinold 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    At 2:06 - surely Rover 75, not 45? I remember, first hand, the excitement both of these cars and the BMW Mini prototype caused at the NEC. A very, very short-lived British, Blairesque, renaissance.

    • @Imacomingtoo
      @Imacomingtoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In my humble opinion the 75connoisseur was the better car

    • @richardharrold9736
      @richardharrold9736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @freepieanchipsgarage it was prettier and better-built... not much between them in handling, either, despite the Rover being FWD. The 75 V8 was a better car than the N/A V8 Jag, but it was held back by the 2-valve heads.

    • @richardharrold9736
      @richardharrold9736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @freepieanchipsgarage the Ford Modular engine wasn't "barn door" in any way. Yes, the Rover used a 2-valve SOHC version for packaging reasons, but there was a 4-valve quad-cam version which has been retrofitted to some examples. The Jag just never handled as well as it should have, it was a bit too vague even in R form.

    • @richardharrold9736
      @richardharrold9736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @freepieanchipsgarage the Triton was the SOHC 5.4, wasn't it? The Mustang Cobra was quick and handled well enough. The old 302 is pretty woeful - heavy, restrictive heads and the block cracks in half when you push it past 400hp. The 454 was a Chevrolet engine - the BBF came in 429 and 460 cubic inch form.

    • @richardharrold9736
      @richardharrold9736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @freepieanchipsgarage ah, I've never heard any Mod motor referred to by cubic inch displacement. The V10 certainly has a reputation for being troublesome. The quad-cam Mod V8s were great, though - the 4.6 4v Teksid is a fantastic power unit and capable of over 2000bhp in turbocharged form. Built by Ferrari engineers in Italy.

  • @tonysherrard
    @tonysherrard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ve got a 2006 V6 2.7d - it has a lot of torque and it’s a lovely refined drive too.

  • @alleykitty2131
    @alleykitty2131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I ❤️❤️❤️ my Jaguar S-Type. It drive like a dream. I also get many compliments, mostly due to the "leaper" on the hood

  • @CaiSpidox
    @CaiSpidox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Oh I do miss my S-type.
    The owner of this jag sounds very much like me. An old man soul - give me Jags and Lexus anyday.
    Jaguar's just always have a...feeling only a jaguar gives, and the balance of comfort and handling is always spot on

  • @neilmcguinness4422
    @neilmcguinness4422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have always had a penchant for the Jaguar S type R I must say. Very rapid yet distinguished and lush and comfortable and quite understated. Just the kind of car I like. I never bought one when I came into money as I decided to go for something with a warranty and all weather traction (essential for me due to peevish surly British weather) so I went for a one year old Golf R and I could not have been happier with my choice. I do see a S type R often where I live though and I will always gaze at it admiringly. Every time. A very special car.

  • @jaykemeneses3261
    @jaykemeneses3261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I owned a S type 4,2L V8 and I can honestly say the car was faultless for 4 years of ownership. Loved the car...

  • @gepwxaqdfsidsesg1548
    @gepwxaqdfsidsesg1548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I have an XJ Super V8 on the drive at the moment (it's going to a friend next week). It's a cool thing.

  • @ingaz6565
    @ingaz6565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ive owned both the 2003 and 2005 versions of this car (the main differences being slightly lower weight and small cosmetic updates in the 05 version) Its a surprisingly reliable car despite being a Jag. This of course being due to the fact that the chassis comes from a Lincoln LS and engine from Lincoln as well (originally a 4.0 liter) and numerous other parts coming from Fords parts bin. This helped with reliability (unlike the XJ which suffered from unreliability, specially those air suspensions). Most dont realize that when the S type R came out in 2003 it did 0-60 in the same time the 2003 corvette did. Problem is Ford failed to or was unwilling to make upgrades. The power remained the same from 2003-2007 when it was discontinued. meanwhile BMW, Merc etc are upgrading their salons pretty much yearly. Unfortunately at this stage the plastics, wiring etc on these jags are suffering from age, even low mileage ones will give you electrical issues, cracked plastics in the interior and of course, rust.

  • @josephjewellers
    @josephjewellers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Bimmer 5 series and Mercs E Class size..... also both M5 and S type R have V8 in same era......so more of a M5 competitor

    • @popuptoaster
      @popuptoaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed, they are in the same price bracket as most of the 55 engined AMG cars as well these days, I went for an W210 E55, has less power but is (surprisingly) lighter than the jag by a couple of hundred kilos and there is also the supercharged W211 E55 after mine if you don't mind all the extra electronics and air suspension.

    • @popuptoaster
      @popuptoaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Darth Wheazius I've had a few jags, XJ40 was my favourite, built in the Ford days so they are actually reliable but still running the awesome straight six and V12 and have the feeling on the classic old XJ.

    • @michaelloach9461
      @michaelloach9461 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Buy an M5 for £5000! If you buy one of these, you've got £5000 to spend on for servicing as the cheapest M5 is about £10000! That & you have a nice car that no-one knows what it is when they piss you off by being right up your arse & you put your foot down......All the best..........

    • @stevec6427
      @stevec6427 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The XFR was the replacement for the S Type R and Jaguar made a big thing about it being aimed at the M5. Having driven both I found it an easy decision to buy the XFR rather than ze German.
      The XJR was competing against the Mercedes S600 and BMW 760.

  • @SmellsLikeGASOLINE
    @SmellsLikeGASOLINE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The S-type would be an alternative to a Bmw M5, since it shares the same car segment (the S-type lenght is 488cm, even longer than a 5 series of this time). I don't really understand why would you compare it to an M3

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's closer in price to an equivalent M3 and that's the fast car bench mark

    • @SmellsLikeGASOLINE
      @SmellsLikeGASOLINE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@JayEmmOnCars In my opinion, a guy searching for an M3 will not find an equivalent in the S-type R, there are two very different cars in the manner they deliver sensations. But I'm sure I don't teach you anything ;) . BTW thanks for the reply and clarification!

    • @cPhiloo
      @cPhiloo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Je plussoie ! Une S-Type chez SLG un jour maybe...

    • @Kelveron
      @Kelveron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Agree that S-type was directed at the 5 series. The (Mondeo based) X-Type was the Jag rival for the 3 series.

    • @blackwersus
      @blackwersus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SmellsLikeGASOLINE Agreed, one is a 100% sport oriented car another is sporty luxury car

  • @ojmacek
    @ojmacek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    im 16 years old and i have a 3.0 petrol paired with a 5 speed manual waiting for me to get my licence. also only has 103k miles! :D

  • @angi733
    @angi733 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    M3. Don't make me laugh, this was an M5 Rival.

    • @johnmitchell2269
      @johnmitchell2269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      M5? Don't make me laugh, these were a rival for the MG ZT 260

    • @foreversceptical318
      @foreversceptical318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Having previously owned one from new, your comment exposes the fact that you had never driven the S type R, nor even been in one. At the time, it beat the M5 hands down.

    • @angi733
      @angi733 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@foreversceptical318 don't understand your point ? I think they are good cars, just that it was a 5 series rival not a 3. I've driven X308 XJR and been in an S Type R actually, the supercharged engine is a gem.

    • @angi733
      @angi733 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johnmitchell2269 Really? maybe the 385 supercharged one but I don't think a 260 would see which way an S Type R went.

    • @Rypsolisti
      @Rypsolisti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And the XJR was the rival of what then? 700-series? I think XJR is rival for M5 and S-Type R for M3.

  • @mykincadult-store1219
    @mykincadult-store1219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    Love these, one currently sat outside my house! Though I'd argue, its more of an M5 competitor, due to their size.

    • @2702simmo
      @2702simmo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I thought M5 as soon as I saw headline

    • @michaelloach9461
      @michaelloach9461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This maybe true but find an M5 for £5000! All the best...........

    • @JJR_77
      @JJR_77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@michaelloach9461 might be possible if it has about 200k miles on the clock lol

    • @lewis72
      @lewis72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I paid £5700 for my E39 M5 with 72k miles on it... 8 years ago.
      It had a £6k starting price on E-Bay and went unsold. I contacted the guy, willing to pay £6k for it but before I offered he replied with "£5-7 and it's yours".
      However, right now it needs £2.5k of welding and bodywork doing to it (rear arches and sills).

    • @richardharrold9736
      @richardharrold9736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lewis72 get it done, they're very much on the rise...

  • @rayoco1
    @rayoco1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I recently bought a 2002 S Type R in Slate Grey, which suits the car. It has FULL service history with about 167,000 miles and was fully imported from new into New Zealand in 2002 - no covid restrictions to travel at this time so it's on the road...

  • @QT31160
    @QT31160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The S-Type was a BMW 5er competitor (so M5 for this variant). The X-Type was the 3er competitor. The S-Type platform was the DEW98 and was shared with the Lincoln LS and Ford Thunderbird, while the X-Type was based on the Ford Mondeo hence the requirement for 4WD to provide differentiation and justification for the pricing at launch.

  • @KotomiP
    @KotomiP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    8:29 - I thought that was a ghost, totally didn't expect the owner to sit in the back

  • @The_Car_Gods_7814
    @The_Car_Gods_7814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Good on the lad, I had considered the STR when I was 21 (Not that long ago) but preferred the X308 body of the XJR instead and there honestly there wasn't much between them other than the 200CC and 1 gear ratio. I have since sold the car and wanted this but the lack of manual control from the auto was a bit off putting having a J gate again. As you said yourself I do rather associate the old style of quad headlight and shallow buttresses with the scoundrel's of a bygone era.

    • @royfearn4345
      @royfearn4345 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The J gate is fine once you've mastered it. It comes into its own for mid-range overtaking rather than relying on the rather hesitant kickdown switch. Use the lhs of the J just like a manual but without lifting then drop it over to D once you've finished with the heroics. Mine is an 05 3.0 and I find this adequate for UK road use plus there's a nice amount of veneer. Mine is a re-import from Japan and is therefore virtually rust-free. Be careful not to over-rev coming down the left J. Usually best not to drop it lower than 3rd unless you're below 40mph.

  • @BrandonBlackstock
    @BrandonBlackstock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I’ve had an 06’ S type R for 5 years. It’s been a great vehicle and never left me stranded. I almost have 150k miles on it. Flooring it and hearing the supercharger whine always puts a smile on my face. The car has turned me into a jaaaag man. My next vehicle will be another Jag.

    • @fancyjoe7474
      @fancyjoe7474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thinking of getting a 04 model with 35k miles for $8k is that a good deal?

    • @life_of_riley88
      @life_of_riley88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Your next Jag should be an 07-09 XKR. Fantastic value for an amazing car.

    • @bacrispy
      @bacrispy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice

    • @2hottt
      @2hottt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      jaguars are nice cars

  • @stevestone4346
    @stevestone4346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great car. Like most Jags they look better with time.

  • @williamfence566
    @williamfence566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nearly bought one 20 years ago but put off by the "unreliable " tag. That one looks a good un . Interesting that it rides better than the newer stuff, keep hearing that a lot . Progress is a hard riding, physics defying, crossover.

  • @jedw
    @jedw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    "There was never a 4 cylinder in the front.." just the way it should be 😏

    • @insayn7995
      @insayn7995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Exactly, 4 cylinders don’t belong in mid size sedans/saloons.

    • @jareknowak8712
      @jareknowak8712 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@insayn7995
      Oh, they do.
      Now.
      :)

    • @w3villz425
      @w3villz425 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jareknowak8712 hmm not really unless you like turbocharged cars

    • @okeyezeilo6187
      @okeyezeilo6187 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @jedw Hear hear...!

    • @stevec6427
      @stevec6427 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 3.0 petrol V6 was pretty rubbish though, with less torque and power than a decent 2.0 four cylinder. The V6 diesel and supercharged V8 were the only ones to buy.

  • @cornishrider
    @cornishrider 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Platform was shared with the Ford Lincoln, Its a great car I know a retired ex 60's Le Mans Jaguar racer who chose one as his daily driver and another 60's saloon car racer who bought a 4.0 V8. I drove them new in my late 20s retro styled but very capable cars back in the day.

  • @alexclothier6626
    @alexclothier6626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I bought my Jaguar XF S at 19 years old and loved it, good on him !

    • @ireneuszpyc6684
      @ireneuszpyc6684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      no videos: so, now you drive a 7-seat diesel SUV

  • @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
    @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We had an S-Type (3.0 V6) and loved it to bits; it was my first car. The XK8 / XK8 is not a rehashed XJS, however!
    Unfortunately it succumed to rust of Germany's salted roads.

    • @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
      @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @freepieanchipsgarage
      The DB7 was based on the XJS' underpinnings, the XK8 shared little but the way the rear axle was engineered (as did all Jaguars between the 1960s and the S-Type).

  • @carllynch8798
    @carllynch8798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That is a great car and very underrated.

  • @speedosambos
    @speedosambos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had x2 of these quite a few years ago... still love em.. the seats were sooo comfortable over a long journey, haven’t had a car since with any seats that come close..🙏👍👌

  • @skaraborgcraft
    @skaraborgcraft 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "wernt looking was you" says the man getting flashed doing 32 in a 30. Still capable of getting 4 people across Europe at a good pace. Quick car at the time given its bulk. Will be another car every one binned that will be worth money at some point down the road, especially the R.

  • @davidpeters6536
    @davidpeters6536 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had two S-Types the last being an ex-Jag executive's S-Type 4.2 V8 Sport (final spec) in black/cream with all the trimmings. It looked like the test car except had driving lights, sunroof and multi spoke alloys. I miss that car every day and shed many tears the day I sold it. Debut was October 1998 the same day as the Rover 75 (I was there). S-TRs should have a LSD I think.

  • @mthorn572
    @mthorn572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes!! A big bruiser barge video, thanks Jay, love it!!

  • @karlc4352
    @karlc4352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I had one of these 15 years ago for 3 years it never went wrong at all then had a e39 m5 which was more fun but had so many issues great car though my mate at the same time had a rs6 that was always at the dealership broken the jags are more reliable than people think my current xfr has been faultless also

    • @designxyz5007
      @designxyz5007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Punctuation

    • @jameswilson8820
      @jameswilson8820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@designxyz5007 who cares about punctuation just take note of what he is saying don't be negative.

    • @designxyz5007
      @designxyz5007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are obviously very intelligent,

  • @carsyoungtimerfreak1149
    @carsyoungtimerfreak1149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Used to own a 3.0 Litre, great car. Still regret selling it. The S-Type is not a BMW 3 competitor, it was aimed @ the 5 series... Platform was shared with a mid-size Lincoln, I believe. The origin of the 3 Litre V6 was also Ford based, although higely modified by Jaguar. I never drove a more comforable or quiter car since, perhaps with the exception of my current XM...

  • @paulsz6194
    @paulsz6194 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They used to be a bit more common in Australia as well, my former boss had the 2000 S type V8 from new, then four years later( 2004) picked up the S the-R for about $10K cheaper as the car was a car that was ordered through a jaguar dealer, but the customer who ordered it reneged on the sale , the sale fell through, and the dealer was eager to get rid of it . It threw you back into your seat!

  • @martinboulden3540
    @martinboulden3540 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great to see a young enthusiast not buying the typical Golf Type R or BMW 140i and instead buying something with character. Hope he has lots of fun and not too many bills.

  • @grayfool
    @grayfool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Saloons with big engines are very much my thing. Jags with an extra R, niiiiiice.

    • @rasta6603
      @rasta6603 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly!!!

  • @yopuivideo
    @yopuivideo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One in the driveway. Make sure the expansion bottle is new and that the drive belt tensioners have been replaced then enjoy cruising at the speed limit. You will be amazed how fast you get places by maintaining a speed while other flashier cars pass you again and again in some frantic fast slow routine not experience by Jaaag drivers.

  • @lewis72
    @lewis72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    2:03
    Rover 75

    • @andipajeroking
      @andipajeroking 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, exactly.

    • @chrisryan5339
      @chrisryan5339 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had a couple of 75’s nothing like an R !

    • @andipajeroking
      @andipajeroking 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisryan5339 Well, of course, you would need the V8 75 for that comparison to be fair:)

    • @chrisryan5339
      @chrisryan5339 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andipajeroking yes indeed. I nearly bought one. Not a touch on the S type R but a great car

  • @paul1978g
    @paul1978g 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi James, the early 1999 shape S Type was actually based on the Lincoln LS platform. The facelifted version was subsequently based on a modified XJ (X350) platform, and is generally the better one to go for.
    I'm personally of the opinion that these cars are hugely underappreciated. They're comfy, have a great range of engines (from the 2.5 v6, 3.0 V6, a 2.7 TDV6, 4.0 V8, 4.2 V8 and finally this magnificent 4.2 SC) and whilst some repair costs can be expensive (both the early 4.0 V8 and the later 4.2 V8 can have timing chain tensioner issues for example) they're generally well made. Regular servicing seems to be the key.

    • @varsas10
      @varsas10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had not heard that the S Type changed platform to the aluminium X350, in fact the XF up until 2015 was still based on the same platform, only then did the car switch to an alloy platform.

  • @benrochford8769
    @benrochford8769 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a big fan of the s type and the rover 75, so wont surprise you to know I enjoyed this video

  • @cupidstunt22
    @cupidstunt22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jay you are spoiling us with your fab content!

  • @bluewanderer9903
    @bluewanderer9903 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly, I forgot about these, I would gladly drive one now dont care how old it is. Love the color, interior, love that rear end, not mad about front but could live with it.
    S type (but not R) would be perfect car for tesla conversion.

  • @guillaumefeyten548
    @guillaumefeyten548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I drove my first S-type at 18 years old, but bought my very own 2002 2.5L V6 S-type when I was 20. Lovely car, it is an absolute dream to drive in. Wonderful handling, beautiful sound from the 200hp V6, simply incredible.

  • @texlad04
    @texlad04 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The chassis was shared with Thunderbird and Lincoln LS. Compared to some other cars with the same 6 speed ZF speed transmission the shifting is snappy. Jaguar does a good job turning the ZF units including the ZF mechanical steering racks. The first gen of the last XJ also used the 6 speed with the 470 and 510hp variants. So this was a premium-ish chassis that surprisingly continued on - with some reinforcements I think - in the first gen steel body. The non R versions of the car have a surprisingly supple ride. And I do think even the 3.0 V6 is a good powertrain. Even the 6 feels snappy at low speed and likes to rev more than you would think. One friend has a 2005 (refresh front end) in red that is in fabulous condition. I totally would drive one of these as a daily driver. As a vehicle it is a quality item with good parts availability because Ford. And believe it or not the Ford parts have continued for a long time at JLR.

  • @lordhampton-wick7500
    @lordhampton-wick7500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wouldn't compare this with a M3, I would be more inclined to compare it to a 5 series. Some people don't like the design, but I have always liked it. I once had a test drive in a fairly high miler and I didn't like the steering on that car compared to my 5 series. However if one buys wisely and gets a good S type I think they are the equal of anything on the market. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🇬🇧

  • @baltazarflores5290
    @baltazarflores5290 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm 21 and I just got me one of those 🤙👌

  • @NorthernsoulBoy63
    @NorthernsoulBoy63 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had a few of s types. V8 v6 manual is awesome too. GREAT looks style and drive

  • @cliffm6566
    @cliffm6566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Platform shared with the Lincoln LS, another great car, rather unappreciated as well😊

    • @KandiStomper
      @KandiStomper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bit of odd irony is that I was debating on if I wanted to buy an LS or the s-type. And at the time I had no clue they were a shared platform. Of course i went with the jag though.

    • @thalo9237
      @thalo9237 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely! I have a 01 LS V8. I really like the car. I keep trying to find a reason to sell it. But I can't...maybe I will swap it for one of these... Idk..🤔🤷🏽‍♂ lol

  • @rydaddythanos8968
    @rydaddythanos8968 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Coincidently two years ago I owned a 3.0 s-type and a bmw 330ci, didn’t know if I wanted to get an m3 or s type r, went with the m3 but now I also want the s type r too lol… can’t ever just be happy with what I got

  • @garethsworkshop
    @garethsworkshop 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I traded my old x-type 2.0d for a bmw 530 e61 but even though mine was the rebadged Mondeo missed the jag so went and got the the X358 the mighty XJR i bought it on 92k miles apart from standard service costs nothing went wrong i put 19k miles on it in two years and sold in November and even made 2k on sale price vs purchase price. A new little one on the way means i needed something with a deeper boot for the buggy, although a big boot it is not deep. As always enjoy your reviews. You should get yourself back to John Ashley Cars as the owner bought himself the alpine stereo 1996 Diablo SV press car, I am sure you would enjoy that :D.

  • @jehl1963
    @jehl1963 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not sure if the car shared a platform with the US market T-Bird, but I am pretty sure that it was built on platform of the Mazda 6 (GG1) -- AKA Ford Fusion. This brought the good (excellent - abet jittery handling for a FWD, very sweet 3.0 V6 engine) and the bad (a dramatic case of oxidation based acne on the body panels after 7 years) that Mazdas are known for. We had a 6 and loved the car, but ultimately traded it in on a galvanized TDI Passat (US model) and never looked back.

  • @dannyhelderdenkende6647
    @dannyhelderdenkende6647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got first v8 model.
    Inside its ugly like hell.
    Seats are good!
    Its my daily. And her live is tuff 😝
    I payt for 8000€ maintance/service in 3,5 year.
    Its to mutch,i know...but i cant sale her,i love to drive That car.
    Old gear box,rumbling around the city,its fun to do.

  • @dalidaily
    @dalidaily 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see so many of these on the roads!

  • @Galatzo
    @Galatzo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The 3 litre is better that we remember, idk about the R
    Anyhow i kinda have a soft spot for these

  • @MarksWheels
    @MarksWheels 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've been a Jag owner since i was about the same age and absolutely love them. I currently have an S type R and it is the second longest i have ever owned a single Jaguar for (4 years and counting) and im not sure i'll let go of her any time soon!

  • @JamesCherrill
    @JamesCherrill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Love these, I considered a XJR instead of my E92 M3 as my first "quick car" at 19, both the S type R and XJR are very understated and way cheaper to maintain and run than what the bimmer was

    • @ireneuszpyc6684
      @ireneuszpyc6684 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      if BMW M3 is much faster around Nuernburgring, than Jaguar XJR, then BMW will be more expensive to maintain;
      this is how it works; there's no free lunch

    • @JamesCherrill
      @JamesCherrill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@ireneuszpyc6684 Well done, you have figured out how cars and pricing work...

    • @TheTalentedTrout
      @TheTalentedTrout 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ireneuszpyc6684 I don’t think he’s driving the Nurburgring for competitive times on the daily so it’s not really relevant is it

  • @mrbetamax1969
    @mrbetamax1969 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Went to buy one 8 years ago now..set my mind on it..always wanted a v8...when I went to pick it up someone had just dropped a 911 996 px off.. it was up for same money so that was that...porsche won...maybe there to old now maybe the 500 qwid tax put me off ..but one day a v8 jag will be in my garage b4 its to late...ie 🔌🔌🔌

  • @docdildonica7515
    @docdildonica7515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jaguars don’t have competitors. They’re in their own league. It’s stupid to compare other cars to them.

  • @adamwoodward2003
    @adamwoodward2003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'd take this Jag over an M3 any day of the week, I love the way they look and that 4.2l Supercharged V8 is amazing, I believe it's the greatest V8 engine ever made.

  • @r7coo
    @r7coo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This channel just keeps getting better & better. I love reviews of underappreciated cars which are a relatively rare site on British roads. Great work 👍

  • @1258-Eckhart
    @1258-Eckhart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I even like the X-Type. There, now I've said it.

    • @thegearknob7161
      @thegearknob7161 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too. The most underated car in history. They drive very nicely, are comfortable, stable and very sure footed, robust and easy to look after. Never owned one myself but I'm very familiar with them, I wouldn't turn one down if I needed another car.
      One of the biggest problems with them is they are extremely sensitive to trim level, wheels and colour. Much more than most other cars I can think of. In a light colour, with drinks cabinet spec white leather & wood interior, they come across as very frumpy. However it's a completely different looking car in black with the sports premium trim. Almost muscular.
      Oh, and sod the transit powered diesel version. Get the 2.5 or 3.0 V6. It's absolutely worth the extra fuel cost. They sound very nice without being OTT, and it's much more relaxing to drive because of how smooth they are. With how cheap they are to buy now, all the more money for petrol!

    • @bryantshaw2347
      @bryantshaw2347 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too. I bought 2 of them in a row in the early and mid 00s. One white, one black - both were beautiful and made just the right impression for a young doctor in the States.

    • @20bowyer
      @20bowyer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thegearknob7161 I could not agree more. I have a 3.0 Petrol V6 AWD and absolutely love it. Have had it 3 years. Recently bought an XJR (2002), decided to keep them both.....I have been bewitched by the big Cats!! Lol

  • @gaowen1971
    @gaowen1971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had one of these and damn I miss it. Great car.

  • @SuperJMichael
    @SuperJMichael 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That supercharger has a broken torsion spring in the torsional isolator. That is what is causing the rattle noise from the engine compartment. It won’t reduce the life of the supercharger but, it will be noisy. I was a QE with the supplier of the supercharger and a warranty analysis expert.

  • @radeczech15
    @radeczech15 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hahah love the man. I have BMW e46 318d 85kw and i just have bought 4.0 v8 203kw s-type. Im 28

  • @JD-qd1bp
    @JD-qd1bp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review, loving the channel, good work!

  • @Millmiglia001
    @Millmiglia001 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I once drove an S-Type Supercharged and it was an ABSOLUTE MONSTER - FAST AS HELL and humbled many a BMW/AUDI/PORSCHE driver at the lights or on the straight. I called it the -'Assasin in a Savile Row suit'.

  • @DanielSadjadian
    @DanielSadjadian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I never understood why James May hated the S-Type so much. I drove the SE for many years, it was comfortable, easy to drive, reliable and had a lovely V8.

    • @richardharrold9736
      @richardharrold9736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because May is a modernist and loathes all things retro. Especially English retro viewed through rose-tinted American specs.

    • @bigdog594
      @bigdog594 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      James who??😳😂

    • @michaeltelemachus5112
      @michaeltelemachus5112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Top Gear Trio were (and still are) Ars--oles. I would rather trust the opinion of the 3 Stooges.

  • @scoutmaster314
    @scoutmaster314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No mention of Sting's "Desert Rose" video? That video introduced the S-type to the world much the same way as "Transformers" was used to introduce the new Camero some years later. Sting / Desert Rose > Transformers IMHO.
    It became my wife's favorite car after that video and we got her one in 2005. It wasn't the R, her's had the very adequate 300 hp V8 in British Racing Green. It was an upgrade in everyway from the Audi A6 we traded. Better looking, better performance, and much more reliable.

  • @ahemgee9542
    @ahemgee9542 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    More of an E39 M5 competitor

  • @nakoma5
    @nakoma5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I guess I'm alone in thinking The S-Class looked pretty as most Jaguars do especially in the right color. That distinctive front end you could never mistake it for anything else in your rearview mirror.

    • @Robfromnorfolk
      @Robfromnorfolk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not alone!

    • @missa1969
      @missa1969 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not alone at all. It may help to have an art teaching degree to understand this at all in the first place. Van Gough was laughed at until an unseeing generation died.

  • @bdez1259
    @bdez1259 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had one for about 4 years in the US, it was okay. Biggest cons; bad transmission behavior, open differential, heatsoak, it never sounded like a proper v8, no torque under 2k rpm. Pros; brakes, glorious powerband, supercharger whine, elegant interior/exterior with subtle muscle car vibes. The transmission really ruined it for me, keeping it in sport mode helped. It just didn’t want to be in the gear you wanted no matter how hard. At the drag strip (13.6) it would spin through 3rd gear. Repair costs weren’t cheap either. It’s more of an autobahn cruiser, it’s just not happy putting around town.

  • @thenorco75
    @thenorco75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Proper gangster car,great review .

  • @Slideslikebutter
    @Slideslikebutter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Saw one of these go round Goodwood on a trackday once. Sounded like hell

  • @dendevs6120
    @dendevs6120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had S-Type , then changed it to XF. Silliest move from my side. When you look at S-type, you know it is S-type and you know its S-type when you are driving one. XF on other side is boring to drive and without looking at the back of the car, you cant tell it apart form other 50 cars that have same boring looks. So yeah, if you are looking to get one, don't hesitate. Just make sure it is not badly rusted ;)

  • @KayMac1
    @KayMac1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it would've been better compared against the C55/C32 rather than the M3

  • @krayzietj
    @krayzietj ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thinking about getting one this year looking at the same color one with 62k miles $13k ! I already have a 00' lesabre so I wouldnt have to drive it everyday even though I hear good things about the reliability.

  • @iandavidson99
    @iandavidson99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Random fact, Vernon Kay used to have one of these tweaked to over 500bhp

    • @bdez1259
      @bdez1259 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How? Unless you put on an aftermarket supercharger, they pretty much peak out at around 430-440hp with a pulley, intake, exhaust.

  • @jaystyles2241
    @jaystyles2241 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanted one of these for a minute

  • @msix1836
    @msix1836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Though I never owned a Jaguar, but this one is a true beauty, a piece of art. Mint condition among all I’ve seen.

  • @paulanderson7796
    @paulanderson7796 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see decent tyres.

  • @SuperMorriso
    @SuperMorriso 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had it for 7 years. Blue with beige interiors. Elegant, silent. Some expensive repair, yes. But it has been the best car i ever had. A car with as soul, really.

  • @PaulinhoThompson
    @PaulinhoThompson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This Jag looks a lot of fun, another great video, thanks again. Happy New Year, and here's to more great content in 2021, thanks.

  • @plugsocket9432
    @plugsocket9432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lucky they topped out at £10K because due to the used car prices increased in summer of 2021 they now top out at £15K. I can wait until 2022 when the chip shortage is sorted and used car prices decrease to normal levels again.

  • @willowman7721
    @willowman7721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've got one. Best car I've ever had. Big fan of the Sweeney as a child and still am. No brainier really. Very reliable too.

    • @bacrispy
      @bacrispy ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you sure it’s reliable

  • @Decan2805
    @Decan2805 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had one of those, bloody loved it!

  • @andyhunt457
    @andyhunt457 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have seen quite a few of the diesel versions knocking about,mostly in silver for some reason

  • @Paulie_____
    @Paulie_____ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Having worked for JLR under the FoMoCo banner in the early to late 00's, both the X and S type looked te part but their downfall was under the shell was basically a mondeo.
    JLR always looked the part, but imo a 90% brand, there or there abouts, but always a weakness, short coming, be it the engines that plagued he RR, Sport or disco, to te rust issues that nagged te saloons of jag. I love the look of all JLR products, but always that niggling doubt, even today.

  • @jamesstaggs4160
    @jamesstaggs4160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like the S-Type R and it's cousin, the XJR. I give the nod to the XJ but just barely.
    I'm hoping I can snag one of them (or even better both) before the prices on the good ones go up and the cheap ones are total basketcases. I may have missed the boat on the 12 cylinder XJS as people are starting to figure out they're pretty cool cars. They certainly don't look like anything else on the road.
    It does kinda sound like an old typewriter is go in apeshit though.

  • @zzhughesd
    @zzhughesd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In the day the interior was a BEAUT, stereo apart, the leather and quality was a nudge above the boring German's of the time.

  • @alexv8150
    @alexv8150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I worked at dealer which also sold BMW’s when these were new and no; it is not an alternative to a BMW. In fact I always wonder why anyone bought jags considering the price and quality when you have a BMW side by side.

    • @nassimnassim6019
      @nassimnassim6019 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could you give me in depth detsil please?

    • @hyphed4196
      @hyphed4196 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because a jag is different it's more luxurious

  • @dazzaMusic
    @dazzaMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Reasons why you never see S types anymore is because it’s the car that’s almost ended Jaguar

  • @jessicabruno2820
    @jessicabruno2820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have been watching a lot of your channel recently. It reminds me of top gear when it was actually about reviewing cars and not pulling ridiculous fake stunts. Thank you!

  • @antgtr
    @antgtr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always had a soft spot for the S-Type R, however much prefer the looks of the pre-facelift version