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- Friday Fretworks on the road to @SweetAmps to buy a vintage amp! Normal service resumed next week...
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Key points:
0:00 Intro/Concert History
1:50 Sweet Amps
2:40 JAM! Trying the 1961 Concert
5:04 JAM! Going back and forth between the '60 and '61
8:20 Conclusion
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So, thoughts? Did I make the right choice? 😬
I preferred the one on the right! It did sound less midrangey to me though... so likely wouldn't 'cut' as much live.
I think you did; I really liked the almost phase effect on top of the vibrato that the other amp didn't have.
I agree with your choice. The harmonic tremolo was much better. Very 3D. Love the sound. Please, please, figure out a way to get Cardinal Black to the US! If you're anywhere near D.C., I can guarantee 4 ticket sales!
I liked the 1960 one better.
right choice? i dunno, but i'd have done the same: more body/grunt/warmth in the low mids: beautiful sound, likely more sonically flexible... and there oughta be no problem getting it to cut in Cardinal Black. plus? it's different! good to have some amps of noticeably differing characters, especially when ya love 'em.
Bring an A/B stomp box (purchased or easily homemade) when amp shopping. Makes it so cool to instantly switch back and forth between two amps under consideration without pausing to unplug/plug in. Very worthwhile.
That's great advice. I didn't think of that and it's just common sense! Most underrated comment of the whole day 👍
You can't wait 2 seconds? lol
@@AndrewJanusson It's not a matter of waiting, man. Come on. OK, sure, if you're gonna strum a G chord, unplug your cable, plug it into another amp and strum another G chord. Fine. But that's not what I'm referring to. I'm talking about really digging in, playing continuously, taking solos, etc. THAT'S when flipping seamlessly back and forth from amp to amp with no time delay in between really makes the differences apparent.
@@anthonyc1883 A/b-ing is overrated. Too much focus on little details, too little focus on what, in this case, an amplifier feels like, what it does to you. The best gear is where you stop thinking about all the details and just plaaaayyyyyy.
Thanks for taking us chumps along Chris!!! Great sounding amps! Some would say "sweet" sounding! 😉👌🤘👍
Love this type of video outside (tour report, vlog etc) ❤
Huge congrats Chris.. Time to ROCK!
Cheers Chris, a good hunt that's for sure, congrats on the Concert.
Man what a shop!!! Need to take a trip there myself, congrats on the Concert dude sounds incredible!
Cheers Chris, another great episode
Happy NAD "New Amp Day" Chris, can't wait to hear how this pairs up with your other amp.
Don't forget though, Chris, that Fender did actually make the Super Amp during the brown panel era! 2x10 rather than 4 and no reverb. Fairly rare piece, but they did exist. While the Super Reverb would take the place as Fender's large 4x10 offering in 1965 in the black panel line, the front portion of that circuit was available in the Super Amp.
Super cool that you're showcasing the Concert, though. I bought a '63 6G12-A Concert Amp during the beginning of the pandemic in museum clean condition, for a price that would make you cry.. you cant buy a Vibro Champ reissue for what I paid if that tells you anything.. got very very lucky. Enjoy your new toy!!
Wow at first it was going to be a Bill Frisell tribute! I love that wobbly reverb / tremolo. I can’t believe what a repertoire you have as a young man. So refreshing, always surprising. Oh, and top marks for buying at Greggs!
Jesus mate, whatever you play sounds grate! Cool shop!
Such a cool shop!
That 1st amp sounds amazing, and so does your playing.
Worth a visit!
This is pretty much what I did when I bought my 1967 Deluxe Reverb. I even took my DR reissue with me and got to compare 2 1966 and 1 1967 DR with my reissue for a couple of hours. Ended up buying the 1967 and am absolutely thrilled with it!
Great video as usual Chris...some of that camera work was especially awesome too! ;)
Bought my tickets for the show in frankfurt today. Cant wait to see you live since back in 2018 when i searched youtube for a CG Redbone Tutorial ;)
what a cool store!
The intro B-roll has me convinced this shop is epic. Especially me being a Gibson amp nerd....holy hell did that bit cause the fizz.
Super shop and two great sounding amps.
Loved that instrumental Halfway lead in, awesome track
Awesome video Chris and I never knew this shop existed. I have a Marshall 80's Silver Jubilee 2554 combo that hasn't been used since the 90's that I need an expert to look at and service. These guys look perfect :) cheers
Come buyyyy with me, come buy todayy
…it took a lot of restraint not to call this video that! 😂
@@ChrisBuckGuitar quite Frankly, to do it my way, would be somethin' stupid
Awesome! Huge congrats. Both of those sounded great. I’ve found that using two amps that are slightly different blends very well. I have a ‘68 SFSR with stock vintage alnicos and a ‘67 BFDR. 6L6 + 6v6, 410 Alnico + 112 ceramic….they really fit with each other in a cool way.
Oh man!...I want to go to THAT store!!!
I liked this episode. Guitar safari is always cool!
Thanks for the video
Good gracious, those both sounded incredible. I personally dug the 60 by a nose, but would be ecstatic to own either.
Good choice and the tremolo is sweet.
I think your assessments between the two amps is correct 👍🔊🔊
There were 2 different version of of the brown face concert models 6G12 and 6G12A each had a different tremolo circuitry. 6G12 used 2 preamp all 4 triodes. 6G12A used 2 and half preamp tubes using 5 triodes. This was expensive to produce. Leo must have moved to the photos cell circuitry and bias tremolo in the black face fenders because it was cheaper to produce. Thank you for sharing your experience buying that amp. Congratulations!
Clever, clever shopkeeper! Suddenly it's not a choice between buying a vintage amp or not, it's a choice between a '60 or a '61... Mind you, I don't suppose you drove all that way to not buy something.
I have the later Rivera 1982 Fender Concert 4x10" speakers. It served me very well through many gigs. It is good for both Country and Rock.
I bet that place smells amazing 😻
Enjoyed this one Chris, the odd video like this would be fun and different!
That trem is so rich at first I thought you were playing through a vibe pedal!
- ok, after a bit of research I now realize that's a "harmonic tremolo," never heard of that before! And yeah, the one on your amp was definitely deeper and more univibey.
My 1962 brown tolex Fender Reverb Unit would look and work great with your new Concert!
Nice amps! See you in Cologne! 🤘
They both sound killer.
I recently picked up a Koch the Greg amp. 2 10” Jenson’s. Built in tube driven Harmonic tremolo. Absolutely love the amp. One of a very few made amps with harmonic tremolo
Very cool store, nothing like that near where I live.
Hello Chris! You made the right choice. Both amps are the right choice whether you chose the '61 or the '60. I preferred the sound of the '61 and the appearance of it also.
I traded a piggyback Bandmaster for a "64 Concert in 1967 and gigged it heavily with a Tele for 7 years. Club gigs, recordings, and some sizable shows, it never let me down and was plenty loud. Great amp.
Right choice the trem on your one seems to have an extra dimension 👍🏼
when we coming to the USA buck! Much love bro keep up the great music
Yep, sweet amp you got. 👍👍
⚓️ Thanks Chris 🏴
I have an early Concert-Amp. It is a 1960. I love it. I had it looked at by an expert and it is a strange amp. Not much about it matches up with the published schematics. But it is is no doubt all original. Mine looks like the one on the right with the dark grill cloth. I love that gooey vibrato it has. Sounds so good. And, there are not making em anymore so get it while you can.
Get both of them!
Harmonic tremolo sounds so so nice!!!!!!
vintage amp content is the best!!
Great video. I really hope Greggs cuts you a deal they can afford it and you deserve it! 😁
I have a 63 model concert amp. I’m its second owner, and it’s in very good condition with original everything including the speakers it’s got more mid range than other fender models, which makes it quite a nice amp. The tremelo is something special.
Sweet amps is about to become my local amp shop when I move in the next few months
Played though a vintage amo the other day for the first time.
A 73 silver pannel twin reverb, and man it was sweet. Volume at 5, master at 2-3 it would start to break up just a bit with my 2010 ibanez single cut. And I get it, these older, somewhat bigger fenders just got something to them.
I would have picked that vintage blue Watkins i think is the brand they sound absolutely unbelievable
Sometimes I’m jealous of people who live near cool vintage guitar and amp shops like these but then I realize it’s a good thing that I don’t 😂
For you of course ! I’d have gone the other way 🙂
There was a Fender Concert with a single 12 inch speaker. I repaired one once. It was excellent.
I like the 2nd one the darker one
the 2 browns next to each other will definitely look killer!!
So jealous of that purple jewel light! I recently bought one to put on '65 PRRI, turned out the original Fender part does not fit the original Fender amp..... :-/ Harmonic trem sounds lovely.
My main amp has the same Brownface circuit. It’s a 62 Bandmaster in a 2-10” combo cabinet. It’s loaded with a pair of AlNiCo Celestions. The amp is a keeper.
Just put an order in for a Suhr Hombre head and 2x12 cab. The brownface Fenders are amazing!
I looked long and hard at the combo. Ended up with a tweed vibrolux clone because I don’t need to be that loud. I love the brown deluxe sound though!
The dark one sounds like a FENDER!!!! I have an all original 66 super that sounds unreal! The 60 concert reminded me of that tubby fender tone!
I would kill fo a 50's Pro or Super they sound fn incredible.
both of these amps would have been the right choice 😉 but yoú're correct, the trem in this one sounds better...stocked to hear it in person at the gig in vienna in a few days time! 🤘
Keeping my thought to myself as requested 😂
It’s amazing how much a good harmonic tremolo sounds like a great Univibe
I recapped and refurbished a brown Concert for a customer some years ago, and one of my technician friends asked "is there any way I can make the vibrato in my reissue Deluxe Reverb sound like that"? Uh, no.....😉
The Concert Amp just increased by $500+ today and $1000 come Tuesday because you’ve got a twitch for it..!!!
You need to play a Carvin Belair or BEDROCK BC-50 (both USA made) and then my amps will be ready to sell.!!!!
Bet it sounds great. A good workout too.😅
Yeeeesssssss! Friday fretworks. Wales to east London??!?? Now THAT is what you call commitment.
How many hours is that?
@@forester057 around 5 hours depending on what part of wales.
Sounds a bit like a Leslie, without the hassle of rotating the speaker. Or maybe more like a UniVibe. Lovely sound anyway. Yes, definitely better sounding in the one you bought Chris.
Beautiful amps! i just wish i could play well enough to justify owning one. Oh. I forgot. I'd need the money too. Duh! Congrats on your new amp! You deserve it!
Those were great amps
Thanks for youre share.
What I can ear on the white face one is that there's one hp that is in opposite audio phase. The black face has a more open sound. I prefer the black one.
I have a 1960 Fender Concert, it’s a phenomenal amplifier and the other piece which I was interested in is that 1960 models like these share the same output transformer as the ‘59 Bassman!
Nice!
the way Chris says 'heard' makes my life longer
That trem sounds like a leslie! Amazing.
Harmonic trem is totally different and so good.
Man, as if the Joey Landreth Two Rock didn't make me love harmonic tremolo enough, now Chris is going to be showing how amazing it can sound?!
These brown fenders were a huge inspiration to Joeys love for harmonic tremolo. He has one or more of these.
Cool Concert you got! But don't you ever miss the Victory Copper? It made sense to my to use it along the Fender to fill out the mids. 15 years ago I gigged with a vintage Fender Quad Reverb along with a Vox AC30 and they sounded great together. Of course, I also other thought other stuff sounded awesome back then, that in hindsight wasn't so awesome 😅
I preferred your choice too at least with the position of the camera mic position to the amp on the left. More warmth and punch with less brittleness than the amp on the right. Both great amps though.
2nd amp sounds WAY better, i hope you brought that one.
It's always commendable to see a young man purchase a vintage amp and then release it into the wild. If everyone could do this, the amps would repopulate wilderness places in short order.
You should have bought the '52 Bassman. Super rare and not redundant with what you already have.
The “a” model Browns are very special amps. I have a ‘62 concert and I will keep it forever. There is a big tonal difference in the two channels for sure and the normal side starts to sound really good when it is anywhere from 5-7.5 on the volume but that is LOUD! The Harmonic trem side is brighter since the harmonic part of the trem manipulates the tone even when it is turned off which makes the difference in tone between the two channel. There is an interesting thing with the trem side in that it has an unused side of a 12ax7 that can be tapped into and used as an extra gain stage on the normal side and it really wakes up that side. Since the amp you bought is already not stock it could be a thing to do.
Here is a 16 second clip of the Normal channel at 7.5 and the treble and bass at noon.
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Missed hearing Chris on a Strat!
Both nice amps! See You Soon in Frankfurt Gig. Because you check out rare vintage Guitars I wonder whether your tour schedule allows some spare time for doing it at Guitarpoint?😉
I'd have gone for that one, the tremolo was a bit meatier than the other...but both sweet sounding amps.👍🎶🎸
These had the same output transformers as tweed bassmans and is why so many get robbed and have replacement OT's. They're great sounding amps and you made a solid choice! Your normal channel can definitely be easily serviced and likely needs electrolytic caps replaced in that channel or maybe just a new tube. The 12AT7 phase inverters in these get hit hard and seldom replaced as well, can wake up and restore a lot of character so get em tested. Congratulations, nothing beats a brown trem!
Shhhhh. LOL. I just said the same thing. My Concert was a September built one. It uses all 12AX7's and 5881's. No mention of a 12AT7 on the tube chart that I recall (I will have to look). Love my early brownie. Fenders long lost secret amps.
@@jppagetoo good call, they moved around a lot. Some are labeled as all 7025, so a mix of 12ax7/7025, some 12at7 equipped but maybe that was later on. It's a cool amp!
@@zeroamplification Now that you mention it, I do believe they are all listed as 7025's and 5881's. The Brown circuits were tweaked a lot until late in 1960 when they settled in to a final design. My Concert has a 6g12 board with a 6g12a circuit built on it. It also has completely different values in the tone controls. All original solder joints, so it came that way from the factory. I think this was one of the 1st 6g12a's Fender ever made. That seems plausible. Why the different tone circuit? That is a very good question. It was obvious Leo was still experimenting with the Browns at this point, but his cheap side prevented him from wasting anything.
I bought the JHS Harmonic Tremolo pedal that copies this tremolo circuit. It's fantastic tremolo but to hear the original is super cool.
Clearly lacks the Hi Mid Harshness of my vintage Modelers...... ;-0 Killer Store!! Nice Playing!! 60's Leo what's not to love?
A Brownface Concert! I can only dream....and pretend with Tonex captures.
Cool. I've owned a brown Princeton for ages, and it's fantastic for recording. I find them a bit less forgiving amps. I remember a time when these browns sold at a huge discount to blacks because of the lack of reverb. But my thinking was you could just put a high quality reverb pedal in front of it? So I grabbed the Princeton for cheap.
I say matchy matchy, you married one of the good ones =)
Not sure if you have explored the new Maganatone Twilighter Stereo or Panoramic Stereo amps but they are pretty fantastic.
I wish you would have looked in the back of the chassis to see whether the 1960 Concert is a 5-preamp tube model or 6 preamp tube model. I'm no expert but my 1960 is the 5G12 circuit and indeed its trem sounds like the one in this video. The '61 in this video is likely a 6G12-A 6-preamp tube circuit and that harmonic trem does indeed sound richer, better, what-have-you. The cool thing about the '60 is that it has the same transformers as the 5F6-A Bassman and Jensen P10Q alnico speakers. Regarding the buying experience, yes, try as many as you can. When I bought my Concert in 1991 at Ax'n'Hand in Dekalb, IL, USA I had my pick from 6 white bassman sets ( my first choice) and 5 brown Concerts (my 2nd choice). I blew up one amp after the other and was feeling guilty about it but the shop attendant ( not the owner) was grinning, saying "thanks for sorting out the amps in need of repair"
My '60 5G12 Concert was clearly the best and healthiest amp and I still have it and use it regularly. Great amps.
BTW: There are only a couple known Concert-Amps made in 59. I think they were mostly proto-types and artist test units. Nobody knows for sure. These are really a 59 Bassman in Brown trim. The 1959-1960 amps use the same transformers as the 59 Bassman, which they get raided for to fix. The first commercial runs of the Concert-amps were early 1960 and had the volume control in the center. There are a couple runs known of those and they are rare as heck. Most of the Concert amps you find from 1960 were built late in the year and have the maroon grill cloth. These are the most interesting amps of the Brownface era, but sadly don't get the recognition they deserve.
Awesome video! Curious to why you prefer combos vs head/ cabs with more power? Regardless love the videos, cheers 🍻