The Secret Art of the Hermit’s Elbow - Part II

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  • @WeHoBo
    @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi everyone! I’m a musician by trade. If you like this content, please add my music to your playlists to help me eat and make time for more of Street Fighter content!
    Check out my music here:
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    And my band, The Blemish:
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  • @King-yj2jx
    @King-yj2jx ปีที่แล้ว +25

    There is no stronger community for a character than Jamie

  • @kyuugetsuki
    @kyuugetsuki ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I knew it! Everyone sleeps on Jamie and tiers him as low tier but with tech like this its only a matter of time before our boy gets the respect he deserves! Kanpai!

    • @TizOnly1
      @TizOnly1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We're faaaaaaar from squeezing all the juice out of this character.. but don't think stuff like this is going to radically change where he sits. Every character has stuff like this to be developed.
      The fundamental issue with Jamie (needing to decide bw oki and drinking) persists regardless, and in a game where the best characters don't have to level up at all, and take you to the corner in one hit.. it's gonna take much more than one spacing trap (even a really good multi-layered one that flows in and out of itself) to make up that gap.

    • @kyuugetsuki
      @kyuugetsuki ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TizOnly1 You are not wrong, but a man can dream! Honestly don't think this will really shift his tier position much but as you said we have a long way to go in getting all the juice from Jamie.

  • @Portiusmax
    @Portiusmax ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Didnt know so many other peopple main Jaime. Really cool to see. Very few battles with one online so I figured everyone hated him

    • @WeHoBo
      @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He’s just too complicated of a character to learn for too little reward. Why learn a character who is more like 4 characters and four move sets in one, when you can just learn Ken’s one simple moveset and dominate the game, you know?

  • @footmotion
    @footmotion หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now it +3 making it even more dangerous!!! So glad you uploaded this!!!

  • @OkiFGC
    @OkiFGC ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Oki setup at the end of the video is amazing

  • @tiagoj8020
    @tiagoj8020 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I knew that hermit elbow was special and as a Jamie main this confirms it!

  • @BizAndProductReviews
    @BizAndProductReviews ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just started Jamie yesterday and I also started looking for good videos on how to use him. Your videos are some of the best on TH-cam. Thanks.

  • @daveyinblade
    @daveyinblade ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Doing cLP,sLK,cLP on majority of the cast works but select few run into an issue. At DL3-4, the extra forward movement from the enhanced version so you can do cLP,sLK,sLK as the replacement for DL3-4.
    Most the cast
    DL0-2 Stand Block: 0 | Crouch Block: -1
    DL3-4 Stand Block: -2 | Crouch Block: -3
    DL3-4 cLP,sLK,sLK Stand Block: 0 | Crouch Block -1
    Blanka, Honda, Gief and Marisa
    DL0-2 Stand Block: 0 | Crouch Block: -3
    DL3-4 Stand Block: -3 | Crouch Block: -3
    DL3-4 cLP,sLK,sLK Stand Block: 0 | Crouch Block -3
    Extra: cLP,sLK/cLP,sLK makes DL0-2 0OB crouching, whiffs standing. cLP,cLk,sLK makes DL3-4 -1 crouching (0 for Marisa), whiffs standing

    • @WeHoBo
      @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Here you are! Thank you for pointing this out! 🙏🙏

  • @moanasandford4029
    @moanasandford4029 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't know about the last meaty sequence. Nice ! Thanks for sharing !

  • @Uptownsonder
    @Uptownsonder ปีที่แล้ว +24

    You really gave us a gem, great work!

    • @WeHoBo
      @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad to help my dude! Be sure to check out the original Part I of this video too where I discuss how to use it defensively: th-cam.com/video/V0Dumii-DZQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1RUIRxhYeHihQkxj

  • @RAWSKILLZ1223
    @RAWSKILLZ1223 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a new Jamie I REALLY appreciate this content!!! Keep dancing brother! 👍🏿

  • @ThePhilocypher
    @ThePhilocypher ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sick! I can't wait to utilize this. I never used the max distance outside level 4 drink.

  • @DomVsXix
    @DomVsXix ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a Jamie main, this and the other video is fantastic. Thanks for the tech

    • @WeHoBo
      @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to help, sir!

  • @FlipTheCatOfficial
    @FlipTheCatOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is how I envision a real "rush down" character. Ik Jamie isn't one. But he can keep an onslaught on the opponent forcing them to block until their turn, only to be baited into a punish either through distance or speed. So their turn was never really there to begin with

    • @Zimmer8000Gaming
      @Zimmer8000Gaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What archetype would Jamie be considered?

    • @SoI_Badguy
      @SoI_Badguy ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Zimmer8000Gaminga setup character?

  • @nspade9252
    @nspade9252 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is really good, and I don't want to undercut how high quality your demonstration of this, but holy shit the slowed down noises when people get elbowed in the face just cracks me up so much lmao

    • @WeHoBo
      @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol glad I’m not the only one digging that slowed down effect noise 😂 👊

  • @ClarenceSF4
    @ClarenceSF4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Appreciate the knowledge sharing. Thank you!!!

  • @ape4943
    @ape4943 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This miniseries is great, thanks for sharing this! Another secret use I have for back heavy punch is (when at drink level 3 or 4) I use as an oki when I think they are going to throw tech. It's great in the corner and is always a punish counter when spaced right

  • @Jerrizio
    @Jerrizio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are a lab mashine, learning a lot!

  • @BigJamez21
    @BigJamez21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is good information

  • @tinyt.w.i.m7291
    @tinyt.w.i.m7291 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Solid block string.
    I’ll practice this along with canceling these moves into DI in case my opponent can’t wait their turn.
    There’s also the chance my opponent does raw super, so I’ll keep an eye on their meter as well.
    Nothing is guaranteed, but having a foundation is the key to consistency.

  • @QuietLunacy
    @QuietLunacy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Insane tech! Thanks for the video

  • @tengudwn57
    @tengudwn57 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This man has embraced some drunken fist mentality, of knowing the opponent and hitting them with something unexpected

  • @kobep206
    @kobep206 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    came from first vid, liking to help out!

  • @lambdadelta7327
    @lambdadelta7327 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very nice! It's like an advanced version of the rekka spacing trap string everyone does without the whole -6 guaranteed DP punish nonsense haha gotta love the -3 even at worst! Takeuchi was labbing this move a bit on the last days before Rashid came out (RIP) and while I would've liked to have seen what he did with it I'm sure it'd be something like what you've found! I definitely gotta use this more.. Great lab work fellow Jamie! 🍶🕺

  • @MC_DOOM
    @MC_DOOM ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video ! You break things down really well

  • @zanybolone
    @zanybolone ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I gotta practice this fr, hopefully I get back to Plat

  • @komukomupon_ariari
    @komukomupon_ariari ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an interesting technique and I would love to practice it.
    In the case of elbow strikes at sake level 3 and above, it is easy to duck the opponent's attack because of the large drop.
    Unfortunately, however, you may not be able to follow up because you bounce off your opponent.
    This seems to depend on the opponent's technique.
    For example, against Ken and Juri's 2MP, the follow-up attack cannot reach them.
    But against Juri's MP, it can reach.

  • @Willyzzy
    @Willyzzy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    would love to see some clips of using this in matches

  • @tonybordeaux6759
    @tonybordeaux6759 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro you're a legend thank you

  • @carlos25301
    @carlos25301 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People's champ right here 😂😂👊🤛

  • @rocklee5090
    @rocklee5090 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I leveled up again holy shit man,

  • @JordanTheJet
    @JordanTheJet ปีที่แล้ว +2

    funny enough the string after hermits elbow doesnt work in jamie mirrors because jamie's cr.lp is long enough to hit. Should note that this setup is character specific

    • @WeHoBo
      @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes thanks for noting this! I got some messages pointing this out so I’m asking the collective Jamie Army to lab the characters that this doesn’t work against. So far people have mentioned Gief, Honda, and Marisa, anyone else you can think of?

  • @fifonefifty
    @fifonefifty ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude I knew Jamie is insane good in this game

  • @8ToxicTears8
    @8ToxicTears8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At level 4 drinks Hermit's elbow changes animation, gaining more backward distance. Does level 4 change any of this tech?

    • @WeHoBo
      @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It does change it by making it even stronger. With this tech sometimes it gets stuffed if opponents chooses to press a longer button, but the increased back dodge makes sure that doesn’t happen.

  • @El-Burrito
    @El-Burrito ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't play Jamie but this is super cool

  • @Zimmer8000Gaming
    @Zimmer8000Gaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vids man!

  • @RyunosPointyFingah
    @RyunosPointyFingah ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For real though. This vid deserves more views

    • @WeHoBo
      @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว

      Aw thanks man! Be sure to check out the original Part I of this video too where I discuss how to use it defensively: th-cam.com/video/V0Dumii-DZQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1RUIRxhYeHihQkxj

  • @fifonefifty
    @fifonefifty ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was the second or third Jamie player I fought online and after he beat me, I kept thinking to myself this guy is good and there’s no way that Jamie is low tier. I think he’s way up there, A plus, maybe after time even S After he drinks.

  • @Jugi_boy
    @Jugi_boy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the help! I just hit diamond so this is gonna be helpful to climb the ranks :)

  • @LowZer0
    @LowZer0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just might give jamie a try now

  • @TheAnimator54
    @TheAnimator54 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it possible to use this in the corner as a tick throw auto shimmy? I've been trying to lab it out and get grabbed out of the shimmy 50 percent of the time.

    • @WeHoBo
      @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes and not only in the corner - anywhere on screen too!

    • @TheAnimator54
      @TheAnimator54 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WeHoBo I guess I just need to spend more time in the lab. Cause when I have the bot set up to grab on wake up. I'm getting grabbed out of the elbow (sometimes) it's like I need a micro wait before inputing it in .what I have been doing is throw, dash, Micro wait elbow. And have had 50/50 success with it. What works way easier but isn't as confusing for the opponent is throw, walk, use elbow to shimmy

    • @WeHoBo
      @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheAnimator54 here are a few ideas how to implement it. The video is in the context of what to do after landing an arrow kick, but I use elbow a lot as a follow up
      th-cam.com/video/QRc2UvpEyjg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=DTISFqBmiknf2V9g

  • @commanderice6461
    @commanderice6461 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, doesn't Luke have a similar back heavy punch? Could some of this stuff apply to him as well?

    • @WeHoBo
      @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It might! I’m not a Luke main but I’m pretty sure you can take some stuff from this vid and apply to Luke. I’m just bitter that Luke gets everything else AND this move :/

    • @commanderice6461
      @commanderice6461 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WeHoBo Yeah, Luke absolutely doesn't need everything he has AND this move on top of it. It's way past overkill if he can use it in the same way Jamie can. I'll try it out and then dabble with some Jamie later and try what you showed here! Great video!

  • @flixgallardo
    @flixgallardo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh this is some hella good tech!!!

    • @WeHoBo
      @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad to help my dude! Be sure to check out the original Part I of this video too where I discuss how to use it defensively: th-cam.com/video/V0Dumii-DZQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1RUIRxhYeHihQkxj

    • @flixgallardo
      @flixgallardo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WeHoBo I actually just came from that video, actually. Liquid golden and this? This is just confirmation that i need to subscribe

  • @Sarkhamy
    @Sarkhamy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm having issues getting the first blockstring to come out . 2lp 5k 5k 4HP. For some reason I'm never in range to actually hit the 4HP. am I inputting it too early?

    • @WeHoBo
      @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว

      One of the strings I showed is more of a hit string than blockstring. Also, one of them doesn’t connect on standing opponents - only on crouching ones. So you might wanna experiment a bit with those parameters. Hope this helps!

    • @Sarkhamy
      @Sarkhamy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WeHoBo Thank you very much!

  • @noslee2667
    @noslee2667 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this move only applies to classic only, or does modern control have as well?

  • @metalgeartrusty
    @metalgeartrusty ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is why ppl DI in frustration lol

    • @WeHoBo
      @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, always have to be ready for the desperation DI. I say this but I never react in time lol

  • @Nerse47
    @Nerse47 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    dude you good

  • @iiMOJA
    @iiMOJA ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is scary 😧

  • @David-zx4rt
    @David-zx4rt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hahaha heehehehe!! this move reminds me of lucky chloe's back 4, but STRONGER!

  • @fifonefifty
    @fifonefifty ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I ran into your Jamie online weeks ago and I’m still salty.

  • @alejandroveracuevas967
    @alejandroveracuevas967 ปีที่แล้ว

    A lot of the setups you post dont work on backroll wakeup midscreen and are useless because its the most likely wakeup option

    • @WeHoBo
      @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello! The game is designed so that most of the time 1) if you wake up in place and stand your ground, you need to deal with pressure; 2) if you backroll, you get out of pressure but you are that much closer to the corner, which is a death trap in this game. As a result, half the time there are simply no setups for backrolls in mid-screen. Think of it as - if your opponent wakes up in place, they have to deal with your pressure. If they backroll, you also win because now you have corner advantage. Lastly - maybe you can lab some and share the results with us! If you can find some additional tech for backrolls post here and share with us!

  • @granzlewi
    @granzlewi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    subbed

  • @H20_BadOnMyEnd
    @H20_BadOnMyEnd ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this only works against Ken
    Everyone else jab reaches me after blocking the elbow

  • @amar2470
    @amar2470 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Source for thumbnail art? Also +7 on PC is just hilarious 💀

    • @WeHoBo
      @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hello! Thumbnail art is just some random AI generated stuff!

    • @WeHoBo
      @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And yeah, +7 on PC ftw!!!

    • @zackswitch9656
      @zackswitch9656 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@WeHoBo Oh, very dissapointing.

  • @zackswitch9656
    @zackswitch9656 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ai thumbnail aside this is some quality shit

    • @WeHoBo
      @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! If there’s anything else I should cover let me know!

  • @antoniogonzalez115
    @antoniogonzalez115 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The jaime savior!

    • @WeHoBo
      @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol thank you - more to come!

  • @llMavenll
    @llMavenll ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Luke voice actor's brother

    • @WeHoBo
      @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who, me?

    • @llMavenll
      @llMavenll ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WeHoBo yes!

    • @WeHoBo
      @WeHoBo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@llMavenlloh lol thanks! Had to look him up just now. 😂

    • @llMavenll
      @llMavenll ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WeHoBo can't wait to learn more from you

    • @BronzeAgePepper
      @BronzeAgePepper ปีที่แล้ว

      I only see a slight resemblance. looks more like Kiryu in Yakuza 8 with that hairstyle