CitizenCon 2953: Talking Ship
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ส.ค. 2024
- Presenting this year’s newly released vehicles, with a focus on how lore of the past is shaping vehicles of the future, as well as a look at the pipeline itself and the new methodologies within.
00:00 - Talking Ship with John Crewe, Vehicle Director, and Ben Curtis, Vehicle Art Director
01:10 - Crusader Spirit A1
04:18 - RSI Zeus Mk II
15:30 - Drake Cutter
23:35 - The future. Backlog and tackling development.
27:50 - Banu Merchantman status
34:00 - Squadron 42 Vehicles: Idris M P K kits & Javelin
36:07 - Upcoming ships
37:40 - RSI ships family: RSI Polaris, RSI Galaxy, RSI Perseus and more
39:40 - Current state of the Polaris
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If that Zeus comes out and it no longer has a window I'll fight everyone in ship development.
Yeah I'm not buying any ships that don't have good windows.
It already lost the one on the side of living quarter (they updated the holo model on the website)
@@CerealGwarf nice catch... lame they removed that one. Would be cool to have the window next to the single bed for a nice view
CIG should have John Crewe voice a slightly disgruntled saleman at one of the in-game ship dealers.
Dec 27 will be ten years for me. I've never been more enthusiastic to be a part of a journey in gaming. Enjoying it all. I'm built for the journey, the destination, the experience and the legacy. Yes!
whats on dec27 ?
(Not ironic) thanks for being one of the first. Never would have started playing a couple years ago if it weren't for some vets like you that stuck with it and convinced me. So many people are unaware of how incredible this really is.
All these people commenting this made me run and check. My ten years is exactly one month after yours 😂 feels like development is really starting to accelerate.
been backing for 8 years in december and it's insane how they have come, I do just wish I could hear more about orion, or even just drone progress because that tech is crucial for quite a few ships.
I can't wait to hear people complain about their drones constantly crashing into everything and killing themselves because of server desync
I wouldn't be surprised if Drones end up getting scrapped/replaced eventually. They just seem they'd be difficult to implement and have stable. IDK, I backed a little after the 2016-era & they've always felt like an imagination from that period. Though, I know nothing about the process & hope to see them one day.
@@HarperLylia I dunno. It doesn't seem like there's that much difference between a player and a drone, except that drones will have more limited capabilities.
@@maxwellatom666Agree'd. All of the drones ships I've seen have remote drone control stations. I've not yet seen any indication of drones that don't require remote piloting.
Thank you guys for informing us the reality of what's happening with the BMM. Honesty goes a long way. We understand when things happen.
I wonder if the Constellations will get a rework, while they're working on RSI.
I second that. It's nice they add ships and detail, but with the upcoming internal node network, I sure want that for my connie and when I walked around it a few days ago it srsly did feel unfinished^^.
Will soon be a 6-year supporter. So glad I took the time and money to go to Citzencon. It was a really great show!!
I remember the days when I added The Polaris to my fleet(only had a Titan at the time) because it used to be the only ship that had a Internal light craft hanger that wasn't a carrier. Im so exited to finally get my hands on it. 🙂
we'll get the polaris around when I get my bmm.
😂 We'll be waiting many more years my man 😂
@harrisoncortis8416 if they stick to their plan with building the RSI ship family, the Polaris should be coming way before the BMM
@@orilion1820 Looks like that isnt the case! 😜
Polaris my beloved
Polaris!
Same
Same tbh
I paid for one too. Not sure what you are excited for here. Absolutely nothing new! Zip, nada, zilch, zero. 💩
I know there's ships, power armor and most likely ground vehicles, but I also hope there's a plan for mechs on the back burner. Seems like the only tech that's missing from this sci-fi universe. This is absolutely amazing.
power armour is as far as we'll get for 'mechs'. Noting that if they did one it's be realistic (within the setting), so it'll be expensive for its capability, slow, hard to hide, easy to target, high signatures, easy to disable, hard to armour, and low weapon capacity for its size and cost. :P
But we've been told 'no' on more than one occasion.
It was nice to see the released, not released, and 2023 ship counts. I'm curious how they are factoring getting released ships to "gold-standard"
31:35 I think the new team will start the development of the BMM from scratch. Maybe take some information from the current state, of course, like the new weapons, its hangar for the Defender, its medbay and whatever else came, but it still looks like the current BMM will end up in the trash. It's a pity for the lost time, but that's how it is sometimes when not enough precautions have been taken to avoid exactly that. I'm still very grateful to CIG for talking as openly as possible here. But you could tell that they didn't want to say the most obvious thing, and that is that it will start all over again.
Still, it was a very great CitCon and even though as a BMM owner I am saddened by their situation, all the other information has me so hyped that I can patiently sit this one out too.
Thank you CIG for the great work and thank you Chris Roberts for giving us the opportunity to be a part of this incredible journey.
Yeah no
One day I'll park my Merchantman besides my Endeavor. And then I'll probably cry for about half an hour. Welcome back in my life, Star Citizen, this was quite the CitizenCon. ;)
ES:
-Comes with Radar
-Comes with extra shield
MR:
-Comes with EMP and quantum dampener
-Comes with second gun turret
CL:
-Comes with lots of cargo space
-Comes with tractor beam
-Might come with extra Armor (kind of makes it sound like that during the show)
I think if you had all three, you could do it all in the game. Oh and your Mirai won't fit in this one boys, it is a very streamlined ship so there is not much height.
And the mantis remains with only a qed even though it has giant generator on the back
Love this!
I bet my Titan is pretty old too. It even looks similar to a Zeus. Someday I will get one. This looks like a great explorer ship. And I'm going to be an explorer.
The Banu merchantman looks to be 80% done. At that rate it would make more sense to just finish it than to throw it on a shelf until the team gets around to making AI NPC merchants or whatever. Look what happed to the Hull C, that ship was done since 2017 and waited for 6 long years just for the team to get around to design physicalized cargo and persistence. The ship came out and is already dated looking since nothing was changed in those 6 years asides turret placements.
This constant back and forth game is a massive time killer for the development of star citizen. Instead of the ship team finishing up another 4 months of work on the BMM and adding it to the PU their time is now spent on making the Polaris... I get it i want both ships in the PU ASAP, but finish what you start. If you realize halfway into making something you dont need it atm, then you're not planning accordingly and are just winging it hoping for the best.
This is awesome content!
Very nice panel guys, THX
Thank you forthe dedication and proper dev
I would be pleased to hear more about the (further) development of the Merchantman in the future!!! Jared, do you hear me?
I get that the zeus will look much better than it is for now with the new systems. But nothing can undo the amount of cargo it can carry compared to the LARGER c1. There has to be some kind of change to the c1 to make it worth anything. Maybe turn it into a smuggler? It would certainly fit the crusader theme
*laughs in freelancer DUR*
C1 is big, but a lot of that size is in the wings. The main hull is just a long narrow tube.
@@WhiskeyAfterHours At least the DUR has firepower (2 turrets instead of 1), shields (double the amount) and more fuel (about 30% more)...
I really hope the Esperia Blade stays in the game, as a nice side-piece to the "Proper" Vanduul Blade.
I really like the Esperia model more than the actual Vanuul one.
I didn't think I'd care for the Spirits, I picked up a warbond A1 just to use it as upgrade fodder. Then I flew it. Now there is a Crusader ship I like! I'm still not keeping the A1 though, I'll be getting a C1.
Here we go!
Glad to see them working on the big ships and not trying to shape narrative. Oh wait.
Port Olisar, I'll never forget you
Was hoping they would include the RSI Orion in the family of ships they are working on, but I understand it is a whole other beast compared to the others
That's the best music choice to show the BMM but now to try and get a kraken when its able to be bought if my work schedule works with the timed release but i don't think it will
Great see the ship talk our in HD, been a bit of a wait! Fantastic work. Wish CIG had disclaimer on Polaris volley into Idris ship that PDS were not running, just like in another panel a disclaimer should have been on Hammerhead simulation its turrets hitpoints were greatly reduced to show ship subsystem damage.
that volley on the Idris was an example of squashing PD by the volley of smaller missiles from the Vanguard.
Is one of the ships the Anvil Legionnare? Honestly excited to see boarding gameplay of some sort when it comes out!
They mentioned the ES variant has enhanced weaponry, but i don't see anything different than the Clipper variant. The MR has double turrets though so aside from additional shields, what is the "enhanced weaponry"?
Nice to see them going after the backlog debt, but I'm more concerned about the gold standard debt.
"Gold Standard" isnt an final stage - it always getting updates to itself. Like shield emitters, and ship armor etc. - when all those techs and stuff inside, we will get the ships step by step into the "Gold Standard" - and ofc followed by next updates they will get another "Gold Standard".
This will be small steps. But for now, they have to wait until the biggest systems inside.
You forgot the RSI Orion in your list
Rework Constellations !
I was just thinking about how fast I pledged for the Zeus ES. I think that's the fastest I've ever spent money just mins after CIG put it up for a concept sale. The Scorpius would be the next fastest purchase after it's announcement some years ago. After 10 years of backing, I think CIG might know me too well. If the ship is made by RSI, I'm more than likely going to buy it.
I had a referral razor sitting in my hanger, so it cost me a grand total of 5 dollars store credit to pick up an ES. Easiest decision of my life lol
That's a good talk :D
can we PLEASE get that OST
A familly affair ?
Can we have an Interior rework/Gold pass of the conny's (best ship actually in the verse) Cig PLEASE 🙏.
Any speculation on what the ship @36:59 is? I first thought its the RSI Galaxy, but the position of the bottom weapon and rear section looks different.
Hey - from the shape /size and position of gun, that looks like the Zeus.
36:42 looks like the question mark to me, like maybe a RSI medium fighter (checked the size on the Apollo as that was a thought, if the website is accurate, which it often isn’t, it doesn’t seem to be that).
That’s my thoughts 😅
They didn't mention the Alf for the crayons and the Alf for the Banu in the Merchantman.
still hoping to see the hacking legionnaire and other data gameplay be similar to terminal based games like uplink and hacknet
Only 213 ships?? C'mon CIG, those are rookie numbers, you guys gotta pump those up!
they have said that they have as many ships planned for release after the game's fully released as we've already seen so far.
My backer ship still don't have storage space. Since 2013.
Please fix the Freelancer rotating VTOL engines animation and the bad cockpit view (seat is too far back) I can land a ship on the dash. Incredible work as always on the presentation.
New ships!!! :)
YES!!!!
"People ask us what the timeline is for the Merchantman and we say, it's something we'd really like to do. People want to know what we're doing, and we tell them we fantasize about telling them it's done a LOT." The problem, CIG, isn't that the Merchantman has hit roadblocks. It's that you are, by your own accounts, not really doing anything to recover from it, and not even putting it on your roadmap/pipeline to recovery.
Connie owners sitting there like =')
put the spoiler from the Zeus St on the others!
32:24 What is this "Senior Exodus" of 2022 he's refering to ?
Today is my 1 year backer anniversary and I wanna tell to y'all devs to keep up with the good work and DO NOT listen to those haters, this game is AMAZING and it's an experience every game should try!!!
And to y'all citizens, stay optimistic, enjoy the game and never forget that even if it takes time, they always deliver it good!
And to the people who helped me when i was new and even today, thanks for playing with me and giving me a good experience!
This game is absolutely crazy and it was, is and will stay a banger!🔥
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This is all well and good, now can you explain why they are releasing the zeus in WIP when they have such a big backlog they still need to work on ?
I'm all up for Cheering and stuff but sometime you need to criticize.
@@fixo5132 you are not wrong but still, most backlog ships are HUGE so the Zeus will actually be completed first due to it needing way less technoligy (modularity, science, repair, etc) and it also is smaller.
I can see what you mean by it making no sense because it's kinda right, everyone takes it in their own way when it comes to that.
@@fixo5132 Unfortunately, they'll have to keep releasing ships in order to keep getting funding for the project. I don't see that ever changing unless they find a new funding model. If you caught the whole presentation, they talked about how they're addressing the backlog (including moving additional staff to the ship development teams). Apparently, we still have 12 ships coming by the end of the year too.
Even still, as much as I would love to have ships like the BMM now.. What would be the point? My criticisms are more towards gameplay, stability, and in-game progression (which they also addressed). Only time will tell.
STOP PAYING UNTIL ITS DONE!!!
@@ApeRSV4 if no one will pay until something, let's say before it was pyro then they will go bankrupt
I want you to get the merchantman out and done too.
Where’s the RSI Zeus ST Chris?! Release it and take my money!
I dream for an Anvil bounty hunter ship in the similar size to the Zeus MkII and with similar capabilities.
Origin x1 FTW!!!
Why is the first half of the BMG for the banu merchantman sound like the avengers thene
What in the bejesus did that polaris hit the idris with there? A size 10 torpedo? That idris must have been softened up and shields down.
When will these ships be released?
ODYSSEY
LIBERATOR
KRAKEN
KRAKEN - PRIVATEER
ORION
CRUCIBLE
VULCAN
RAILEN
Most of these are either huge, or add some new functionality. Probably going to be slow gong for all of them.
I'd like to take the opportunity to do so in this thread.
It looks good, but I have the following concerns:
1. Main corridor is too narrow.
- In video games it's better to have wider walkspaces. Just as a precaution. CIG has done it for the Zerus Mk.II, so hopefully the same treatment will be given the Polaris as a ship designed for much larger crew.
2. The upper level of that bridge could use a holotable or hologlobe to fill in the blank space.
- Such a simple addition would certainly benefit those who intend to use the ship for its declared purpose of "being a militia flagship". I think it'd just look cool up there - both as the first thing you see when you enter the bridge, and as the background when you look into it from the outside. It would also add some cover (some better than none, right?) for the bridge crew in case hostile boarders attempt to breach the bridge.
3. The ship seems to have lost its ability to fire all 5 of its front-mounted turrets at a target directly ahead of it.
- Two top mounted seen to have lost clear forward firing arc at zero elevation, meaning the ship may no longer be able to bring all 5 of its forward facing turrets to bear against a target that is right in front of it. That was a notable selling point. Hopefully, the Polaris will get that ability back for the crews that decide to face their enemy literally head-on (accepting all the risks therein).
4. Corridors on the sides of the main hangar feel like a waste of space.
It would have been better to replace them with decently sized medbay and brig, as opposed to leaving both of them as afterthoughts integrated into those corridors. If there must be corridors running around the hangar, perhaps they may be integrated above the brig and medbay. Alternatively, the brig and medbay may be integrated above those corridors. I think so long as both facilities are properly fleshed out and protected from accidental exposure to vacuum, either option is fine.
5. Main engineering and torpedo compartment should be isolated from the cargo bay by internal airlocks.
- Opening cargo bay must not depressurize the torpedo compartment, or put main engineering at risk of depressurization. Functionally, cargo bay should be treated as an area exposed to vacuum. Better safe than sorry.
6. It would be wonderful if there was a small cargo elevator leading from the corner of the main hangar down to the cargo bay below.
- I believe it was mentioned in Inside Star Citizen episode dedicated to revised deck plan of the Polaris. Such a little, yet so convenient addition would be appreciated by those who bring in cargo aboard via shuttle, or keep replacement parts for their fighter in the cargo bay.
7. Polaris' original concept has shown some external windows in its canteen. Perhaps those windows may still be added, but be covered under sliding armor shutters (like its hidden side turrets).
- Not really important, but since devs love to add rule of cool features, this could be one of them. Perhaps, another such window may be added in crew quarters, captain's quarters, etc.
8. Removal of remote top/bottom missile turrets is acceptable, if missile tubes at the front have reloads, and can be targeted independently by turret operators.
- Otherwise it's a notable loss in terms of the ship's anti-fighter/bomber deterrent. Even if those missiles won't really hit anyone, they should have 360 degree coverage around the ship.
9. Docking ring disappeared from the concept again.
- A ship of this size needs a proper airlock/docking ring. Just don't put it too closely to the bridge, armory or engineering.
10. Any external elevators for the crew and small cargo to avoid opening the ramp every time?
- That would have been great, so long as it's not too close to the bridge, armory or engineering.
11. Rear top/bottom gun turrets should be placed on slightly elevated positions to at least a little alleviate obstruction to their firing arcs caused by engine nacelles.
12. Due to very limited internal space, it may be wise to replace manned turrets with remote turrets, and put all turret operator stations at the bridge or in torpedo compartment.
- This will free some space to better flesh out the ship's internals, resulting larger living quarters, mess hall, armory, etc. Seems like a great tradeoff (for a compact and modern ship like the Polaris) to me.
I remember when all you could do was walk around a hanger.
What about the ST variant shown at 12:09?
2 Turrets like the EMP variant, and the image was held on stream for way too long to be an error, it runs from 12:09 to 12:25, no way that's an editing slip up.
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they'll probably announce it later
@@mndegyeah I guess at the IAE event
why theres smoke in space from the rockets ?
If they can get the performance to be decent and minimize lag/warping players this game will be great
@Star Citizen/CIG any word on the RSI Zeus MKii ST? We've all clearly seen it and it's being talked about...can you at least tell us this ship will for sure release at some point?
Cant wait till se get non Citizen Con content. Its been like 2 weeks now
Just when I thought I didn’t need to buy any more ships…
Based and Zeus pilled.
The Zeus ES has a Large radar but no holosuit... the 400i that has a Medium radar but does have a holosuit. How does this differ and how will it affect exploring?
get both and find out
@@thekaxmax no
Can anyone preoder either pr both of these games and play them in their Alpha State?
So... why does Starfield have so many loading screens?
16 times the loading screens. It just works
25 years in the making.
still hoping Kruger will make dose large ships that they was aiming for (lore)
Can't believe how much time they spent talking about the Zeus Mk2.
Interior is quite nice, but exterior really doesn't feel like it's close to the OG.
Not to mention, they spoke about the smooth bottom of the ship..... Multiple times.... But never really showed it.
Ok but 600i rework? 🥺
Hey CIG when can we get a video on AI crew members, so Solo players can run bigger ships?! I am really looking forward to AI crew members as a Solo player.
I hope that's they worse than every enemy right now. The reason? I hate p2w
this will happen .. imagine everybody want to fly his own and earned Polaris in "late game"
For those wanting just the silhouettes: 36:16
Rework the Freelancers PLEASE!
28:30 when those ship designers are done drawing NFTs and try to come back to CIG, please don't re-hire them. The grass was greener on the other side of the fence. Let them stay there.
when new origin ship?
I wish the kraken come with pyro
Im really sad about the design of the BMM. The older darker design looked way better than the cubby one.
Variants... I thought you guys were doing SHIP MODULARITY.... The idea was we could retrofit our ship to cover multiple roles depending on our modular loadout we acquire.
variants are for ship subtypes that require hull changes.
Did they say that every single ship will be modular? I thought some ships would be and some wouldn't.
Weird, I saw that from somewhere already...
It kind of makes no sense that we have such old ships in the game. If there are several companies who mass produce ships, then it's like cars nowadays. There are so many new models and barely anyone drives a 50 year old car. No one would fly a 200 year old ship. You especially have to consider that with the progress of technology, they could bring out new ships in less time gaps
The Zeus is not in-game. The Zeus Mk. II is a modern reboot of the old ship.
@@ksl-988 i am not specifically speaking about the Zeus
The "Awws" of disappointment after revealing the Zeus MK 2 had rolling 🤣
I kinda wanted an old-school shuttle for a Zeus. : /
Talking about how CIG is great because it's a transparent and honest company, lol. Then why did your entire senior team just up and leave, effectively halting all progress on the BMM for years to come? 🤔
Again they show the old model of the Polaris I rea
ly hope they are not going to bring it this way xD
Why does the Polaria have everyone so excited? What makes that ahip special? Does ot have some history that Im unaware of?
I've only recently discovered these two games and Im binging all the content I can. But Im late to the party clearly and o feel like I'm missing all the inside jokes.
Lastly. I know Squadron 42 and Star Citizen are 2 different games. But do they both take place in the same universe? Will events in SQ42 have any sort of impact for SC?
Next for mw might be Wikipedia because I feel lost still about the history of the development of these 2 games.
Did you not see the Scorpius launch from inside the ship? What about the massive missiles it launched, the massive interior. The ship is an absolute unit. That's why everyone is excited for it
Never been a fan of the Polaris myself, not my style at all.
Squadron 42 was originally going to be kind of an optional "tutorial" of sorts for Star Citizen. When you completed SQ42 you would leave the military in your past and head out into the 'verse and civilian life. It still kind of sits in that spot lore wise, but it's a completely separate game now that takes place at an earlier date than the start date of Star Citizen. People who have completed Squadron 42 will still unlock their former military ship in Star Citizen.
SQ42 appears to be centered around a war that is history for Star Citizen.
@@Anything4Protein I did and it looked cool but so did many other ships. By the way the crowd reacted I thought it was special. Like the Millennium Falcon would be if Star Citizen was Star Wars. But I guess it's just a cool ship people are excited for.
@@Fairburne69 It's been put into production multiple times just to be on the backburner again, part of it being wrong dimension from the start and missing features in the concept image versus what was given as bullet points, as well as some people leaving CIG and new people joining. So a whitebox-model being in-game gets quite a few people excited.
EDIT:
Also note, that it's like a mini-base/Flagship for smallish Organisations, as it has a lot of minimum capabilities packed into a rather small footprint:
- Medbed, to remove injuries (for FPS players or people who lost their ship in combat but didn't outright die)
- Parking space for land and space/air vehicles (For multi-purpose operations, including mining, holding ground, assaulting an area)
- capital sized (size 4) shields (for a really good durability - about the power of 10 Size 3 shields
- Large torpedoes, so you can actually fight other capitals (to a limited degree)
- Decent gun coverage with a decent amount of firepower coming from turrets, so that you aren't beholden to just leaving or dying to some fighters (the shields also help a lot here)
- Only medium amount of crew needed (around 12) , which plays right into the hands of smaller orgs (and larger ones, at least until the Idris overtakes that role)
All of these features are things that a smaller group of players would love, as it gives a good deal of options, without needing to bring 5+ ships, risking a lot of lost time waiting up for people who's ship was destroyed, or is still waiting on reclaiming etc.
RSI Aurora????
The exterior of the Banu merchantman looks nice, but the interior makes no sense. I guess some people like a standing out "alien" design.
9:00 10:10 11:31
Ok, from that moment you start to pay the money.
My 4080 is waiting, please hurry
Kraken when???????????
Where dirt bike? 🥲
wtf is that torpedos
they just put a giant hole on idris
Hey
Poor John looks like he hasn't slept in 2 years lol
GIVE ME MY IDRIS