Don't Throw Away Your Gateron Browns... Turn them into CREAMERONS! Tutorial and Typing on KBD D65
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2024
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There comes a point in a custom keyboard aficionado's life, when you graduate from the stock Gateron Browns that came with your first mechanical keyboard. But what to do with a perfectly working sample of Gateron Browns? These almost linear-tactiles - "Lacktiles" are not that great out of the gate, but they do posses a lower housing that happens to work great when paired with another switch... the NK Cream Linears.
The result is an interestingly clacky linear switch, that is smoother than a NK Cream, but with its own distinct feel and sound. They produce a sound that is almost like shaking a rattle can of spray paint, or even a tiny little crab walking across the table.
Hope this tutorial helps you understand the process of creating one of these, and if you enjoy the sound, you too can save a batch of Gateron Browns (or almost any Gateron Switch for that matter) from their untimely demise!
Hope you enjoy the video!
KBDFANS D65 Aluminum - E-White
Full Brass Plate + KBD67 MK II Hot-Swap RGB PCB
Foam: KBDFANS KBD67 MK II Pre-Cut Case + Plate
Creameron + TX 65G L Spring + KEBO films + Krytox 205G0
Keycaps: PBT Double-Shot Olivia Clones
Stabilizers: Durock V2 Screw-In + Krytox 205g0 + Permatex
Shot on Sony A7 III + Sony FE35mm F1.8 and Fifine Condenser Mic
Links to Items used in video
Keyboard - KBDfans D65 E-White
Switch Opener - KBDfans Aluminum Switch Opener
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Gateron Switches and NK CREAMS
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0:25 I'd have ended the video there
U should at least skip to 5:00 for the typing test. They sound amazing
Hi Glarses! Appreciate you stopping by! Haha, I know how you feel about the browns. I wonder if more lube on browns will just turn them into linears...
@@Keybored tried it before, it didn't rly turn em into complete linears, more like linear with hiccup (legs lubed too)
@@OwO-dw8ox hi OwO! That is very interesting that yours didn't turn out full linear!
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Underrated channel. Can’t believe I’m so late.
Thank you so much for dropping by! I appreciate the comment, and love your channel!
Really is I love watching this guy. He has a great 17$ custom cable video which is game changing imo. Your work aint bad it self though no pun intended.
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I think I might like the sound of these more than the creams. I think you're spot on, shaking a can of spray paint and it's so satisfying. Idk if im gonna make them, but thanks for the info for the future!
No problem Vincent!
@@Keybored instead of brown, would they work on gateron (optical) yellows aswell
No, since the opticals are magnetic@@txchno_mango
@@RockAlloy oh ok
This channel is actually so underrated, great content man!
Hi Jacob Yun! Thank you so much for the comment! I have more content planned soon so stay tuned!
Am saying the same thing I thought he would have 100k at least for the quality of the vid but 1k I have never seen a man so underrated
Put them into a halo housing to create "Holy Shits"
Edit: Why are people liking this comment, it isn't even my joke lmao
I haven't laughed that hard at a youtube comment in a while.
found on r/mk
Ahahah i'm dying!
LMAO
dont say that
Plot twist: he just wanted to show how clean his toilet is
wait... ur toilet isnt clean?
Very cool project! Keep it up!
Hi Hipyo Tech! Thank you for the encouragement, I appreciate it! Love your channel as well!
These actually sound so good. Im torn between being too lazy to desolder my creams and mod them and having them sound similar to this. Underrated video
Hi Grabbestei! Haha I hear you. But I love a batch of nice NK Creams also. Mine were just a bit messed up so I had to desolder them out... Gave me the perfect reason to convert them to this!
These sound lovely, it would have been nice to have a normal sound test of the creams for reference though.
Hi INTR1NSIC! Thank you for your comments! Will keep that in mind for the future!
They sound incredible.
Thank you so much Ire!
Summing up: Don't throw your brown away, keep their housing and use the stem and top house of the cream, with cherry springs.
Hi Cactus! Thank you for watching and the summary!
I would actually keep the Gateron springs personally, I like the 55g springs of the Browns a lot for some reason
Bruh the sound is a clack and a thock at the same time
thoccy clacks are the best
Clocks
The sound is insane, and I don't even like high pitched linears
Thank you UnatMar! I appreciate your comments!
i thought the title said: “Don’t turn throw away your Gateron browns... turn them into CREAMER”
Hi Franklin! It would be a very interesting creamer indeed!
I don’t really know much about keyboards but I enjoy watching these.
Hi Vail Caspyr_! Thank you for stopping by! Glad you enjoyed this keyboard! I really love the unique sound these switches make.
I made a Frankenswitch between Durock L5 linear and Gateron Oil Kings. Used the bottom housing and leaf from the Durock, then used the upper housing, stem, and spring from the Oil Kings. Resulted in a fast-actuating, smooth, heavy, deep-sounding switch with muted RGB.
I hand-lubed my outemu brown switches since they were a spare set lying around , but man, I've never heard such a huge change in sound profile, super creamy while being cheap
Wow! They sound amazing!
Thank you Anderswan! I appreciate the comments!
I thought you were just a mad lad for doing this but damn they actually sound so fire! I have a bunch of browns I dont use but guess I have an idea now.
Hi Beethoven! Thank you for your comments! I'm glad it was helpful!
Everyone else: talking about the sound and good content
Me: *jamming out to the music*
:)
Didn’t expect you to have only 1k subs. Keep it up!
Thank you so much for your comments brownyee! Stay tuned for more content in the future!
"do i just throw them away^ because they are brown", I love this quote
brown switches are good. what you mean ?
@@ashoc0 the racist side of the joke
@@inf_phoenix6317 of course you had to bring race into it
@@johncapodilupo6876 oh my... im gonna say it once: IT WAS A JOKE
@@johncapodilupo6876 Its a joke
Congrats for creating Clacky Switches, a whole new category lmao
Haha thank you! I actually really love how this switch sounds. It's so bright with a fun pop that I keep going back to this keyboard :)
I know absolutely nothing about keyboards yet I enjoy watching keyboard videos so much.
Thank you so much HR Productions! I really appreciate that and I hope these videos are entertaining! :)
@@Keybored ty keep up the good work
Creamerons sound great! Looking forward to more of your frankenswitch combos.
Thank you keyverse! I have me a batch of durock pom switches and I plan to play around with this housing for some interesting combos!
This is incredible, is there a reason why you aren't using with spring? I want to try this with a red gat pro!
just gona drop my like real quick before this blows up, that sounds soooo nice.
Hi Breathing Debris! Thank you for watching and I really appreciate the comments! Stay tuned for more content in the future!
man you literally turned virgin tactiles into chad linears. great work
:) I love the sound of these switches! Makes me happy every time I type on them
@@Keybored Wow someone actually answered!
*reads name*
HOLY SHIT
you had my curiosity, but now you have my attention
:) Thanks! Hope the videos are helpful and entertaining!
My gawd I just listened to other sound tests of other linears and these just hit the spot. I'm more of a holy panda kinda guy, but damn I might have to make these
Hi Vincent! So glad that you like the sound! The sound of these are unique and I've been really enjoying these as a daily driver! It reminds me why I got into this hobby in the first place.
I wasn’t expecting my ear to enjoy this, this much. Fuck well, time to do this
I just put this back into rotation... Every time, I'm reminded how fun these switches are to type on!
This is the most lubed-sounding unlubed switch
Hi PTSDthiccestboi! Haha these are lubed and filmed. Sorry I didn't show the lubing during the assembly, but the switches were lubed previously so I just used them as is. Hope that helps!
Oof
@@mangosnap1213 Sorry!
@@Keybored Dont worry lol your good,
good content
Remember me when this blows up...
@Giovanni Gigantino actually I chatted a few times in discord with him. And maybe I suggested some ideas for his vids.
This channel is so underrated 😱
Hi Behind! Thank you so much! I appreciate your comments!
When you get famous, just remember i was here at 400 subs
Hi A.B! Haha, if that ever happens, it was because of all the support from you guys!
@@Keybored me too ;)
@@MasoHQlC5GW5btFZ Thank you for the support!
Currently at 8,000+!
I was skeptical but these sound great
Thanks Chris! A good way to use gat browns or similar take offs!
That sound! I also love the keycaps. I’ve had G-MKY Olivia clones in my wish list for a while, and I got even more interested in them after your video. The white looks really crispy white, doesn’t it?
Hi Olga! The color is indeed very crisp white!
@@Keybored Thanks!
Great vid man! What keycaps are those? I know they're based on GMK Olivia but where did you get them?
Hi ChronicleZhang! I did a google search and then got them off aliexpress. The vendor name was g-mky I believe... I was curious to see how it would be, but turned out surprisingly OK! One day, I'll replace with the GMK when I can get my hands on a set that's not selling for 350+ lol
@@Keybored thanks dude! You're epic
HOLY SHIT MAN , last time you had 120 subs , nice job man , keep it going
Hey adRR! Good seeing you! All due to the support you guys have been giving me! I appreciate the comments and I have some more content planned for next week also!
@@Keybored lets fucking go , 1000 subs before February comes? Also I was here from 20 subs , feels great to help
@@AdrianFrunza21 I hope so! You def were! I appreciate it!
Last time I witnessed a YTer wean he removed all his old shite. It might be nice watching people grow but being realistic will also help; afterall, it wasn't you were who exclusively searched for the guy but YT putting him in related vids.
@@randolemando also true , but is the small community who put the video in yt algorithm
They sound amazing
:) Thank you! They do have a very fun sound!
How would the sound profile and feel change if you used the black gateron housings rather than the white ones found in the pro switch?
Also a top notch video.
Hey Keybored great video, what are your thoughts on lubed gateron reds? Can you try to make a good reds build? Love to see it!
How do you think yellows would sound in the cream housing thinking the name could be „banana cream“ or something like that
That would be pretty interesting! I assume slightly scratchy tho... The NK cream housing needs some breaking in :)
This is what heaven sounds like
Satisfying sound. I like that!
Thank you Gabriel! Glad it was enjoyable!
This is pretty cool! Gives me ideas to try and frankenstein different switches! I might have to try this combo out too!!
Indeed! The combinations are endless. I believe there is a thread somewhere that lists out all of these crazy frankenswitches!
@@Keybored I must find that!! Really great content man! Hopefully I can get up there too with building and modding as it's really fun!
Interesting video, thanks man!
hows the quality on the olivia clones?
also do you plan on covering more budget hotswap kits like gamakay k61, k66, yc66 etc..
thanks again
Hi randy! The clones are surprisingly decent. The legends are not as crisp, but overall feel is very thick and hefty and have great sound. I do plan to budget a few budget kits soon! I recently acquired a budget optical hot-swap to review. Will be out soon!
Holy shit! Sounds incredible!!!
Hi Kim H! Thank you very much for your comments!
I know this is a late comment, but how would you say these compare in smoothness to other popular linears? Also, does it get the shorter travel distance from the Cream's long stem pole?
Hi PugLorde! The stems do make this a short travel switch. Also smoothness would be comparable to a gateron yellow I would say.
Can you mix creams with OPTICAL gaterons or they wouldnt match? Btw love the idea and the build.
Hi Mondsee! Unfortunately, the standard gateron and optical gateron have different structures and the components cannot be interchanged. Hope that helps!
@@Keybored and is it worth to change only the stem or it wouldnt affect the sound or even it wouldnt match too.
@@mondseee the stem change alone will definitely impact the sound. But I'm not quite sure of the mx stem will fit into an optical housing?
I think ill read more about optical switches structure and maybe try it, thank for all the responses.❤️❤️❤️
if u use tactile gat switches would it feel slightly tactile since tactile leafs are made to make the overall switch more tactile?
I changed my gateron brown optical switches to linears by removing the leaf that adds tactility, they're basically reds now but a touch heavier which is perfect for me I was wanting a linear inbetween reds and blacks (i know they do yellows but the yellow gat opticals are 35g not 50g) with optical they linears don't have a leaf so I saved myself buying a lot of 70 lol.
We have the same keycaps XD loved the video
Hi Feinn San! Thank you for the comments! The keycap colorway is just so nice... Love it!
sounds niiiiice, gj on this video
Thanks Shoobs! I appreciate it!
I used Gateron black housings before and cream stems. You get the same effect. Either way. It’s fun to experiment and try different things with switches
For sure! The combinations are endless!
I just try this and, DAMN, really nice!
Hi DiegoCC! I'm glad it worked out!
very high quality content keep it up brody
Thank you Rasles! I appreciate it!
Does the scratchiness of the NK creams go away. How does the smoothness compare to other switches like tangerines or lubed gat yellows?
Hi Nabil! I have been told that to make NK creams truly smooth, you have to use them unlubed for some time to really break them in, then lube them. Apparently the process takes a few weeks, and I never had the patience to do it :) I feel the Creams are similar or slightly worse than gateron yellows and there is absolutely no comparison against the tangerine. Tangerines are one of the smoothest switches out there right now :)
does cherry bottom work as well?
Hi kurisu! The cherry bottom housing will work, but the sound signature will vary. I believe the Cherry black housings have a nice deep sound signature, so will not sound exactly the same as the gateron housing. Only challenge will be finding a smooth cherry bottom housing, because some tend to be a bit scratchy. Hope that helps!
@@Keybored Thank you for taking the time to reply!
I cant help but noticed that the bottom of the creams that it is 3 pin and 5 pin. Was there a purpose of the clipped legs? Or where they switches from another board that required 3 pins.
It was originally in a DROP board and needed the pins cut :(
Any thoughts on what housing could create a similar sound profile but with less stem wobble?
so was it the change of springs and film that changed how it acts and sounds? or the housing? cause all it seemed changed was the spring and film, nothing about the actual key.
Hi thisjustanother! The biggest change comes from using the gateron lower housing with the cream stem. The gat lower housing is smoother than the cream lower housing and also has a different sound profile as well. Hope that helps!
Would you be able to white and clear housing and then just add a stem from another switch? Would it sound the same?
Yeah the sound would be similar, except the top out may be a bit different. The stem would have to be a long pole like the ones from the NK Cream
maybe im a weird one, but i combine holy panda with gateron blue bottom housing, might be too tactile so need to lube the leg
the result was more tactile/snappier holy panda with lots of the bottom out range remove, sound quieter and deeper too
Hi saya! What I love about keyboard modding is that there is no real right or wrong way. I'm glad you found that perfect balance you were looking for!
I actually have a gk61 that came with optical gat browns. I removed the metal leaf that gives it tactility since it's not needed for actuation. I then lubed the switch with super lube and it's literally the smoothest switch I've ever used
:) reducing all the points of friction
In animal crossbreeding etymology, the starting section of the new name will be the stating section of the male that produced it and rest will be female. Male polar + Female grizzly = Pizzly and vice versa is Golar.
I'd say the bottom housing is the majority of the volume taken up of the switch so id call them GateCreams.
:) Thanks for the feedback
@@Keyboredlmao it was more of a joke
I tried lubbing and filming i put it on my tofu 65 its sounds super poppy tyx for the tip
Hey Scott, please help to advise if gateron red bottom housing can be use in this case? Thanks!
Yup! Any of the gateron switches can be used for it!
@@Keybored great! Now i can be part of creameron too 🤣
@@Keybored with that being said, any gateron bottom housing will achieve the same effect of creameron, right? As long as done right. Haha.
Hi, it's my first time making a frakenswitch and 1 of the 4 legs of the top housing aren't locking onto the bottom housing after I added a layer of 0.15mm film. Is it fine to leave the switch like that?
Definitely not. If it's not locking with film, the housing doesn't need film!
@@Keybored Thanks! :)
IM GOING TO DO THIS RN
:) Good luck! Hope it turns out great!
I did something similar, put gat yellow springs and stems in cream housings with films and a timy bit of lube (on spring and leaf) called em lemonchellos
Haha, how did they turn out?
How is the tactile bump compared to other tactile switches you've tried?
Hi JJX05! When I built out my creamerons, the result was a linear switch! I hope that helps!
Hey man, i was wondering how that black switch on your 3x3 is called (bottom right) ? Sounds so funky i love it
Thanks !
Hi Dede! I believe it's the Kailh Box Navy clicky switch! One of the clickiest switches available!
@@Keybored Thank you !
can i request it to do also these with Cherry brown... coz i do have them and i like the sound of creams
I think you'll get a similar impact, since the cream stems are longer and make more clack than the standard cherrys!
Sounds so good!👍⌨️
Thank you Boba squid! I appreciate it!
0:40 ...what do you mean by that??
Nice I’ve never tried that! Ill do something like that next good build
Hi dokidokeys! Thank you for watching! Let us know how it turns out!
Your keyboard sound tests all sound unreal bro! Please do a KBD67 O-ring mod tutorial/sound test :')
I appreciate it Gordon! I'll put that on the list for the future!
They sound good-a little higher pitched than I'd like. I think I actually prefer the sound of the creams as-is-but then, as much as I like the sound, I just type faster on a tactile switch. Honestly if I haven't got anyone else to annoy, I kind of like a clicky switch like a tuned Kailh BOX Pink … but no amount of tuning seems to keep those things from ghosting after about six months. Disappointed.
Currently driving some Akko jelly pink switches. Better than I expected.
These sounds godly. Holy
Hi Jeremy! I appreciate the comment! It's a fun switch/keyboard combination for sure.
I think the reason people throw cream stems in other housings is the same as using Halo stems for HPs, they both have slightly longer stems which change the bottom out sound in whatever housing they're thrown in. I love how these pop but didn't like the strong tactility of HPs, need to get me some creams and throw them in cherry housings:))
Hi tiang! You are correct! The cream stem is essentially a linear halo stem. Great for modding!
Love the sound! wish i had the tools (and budget) for them😆
Thank you so much for watching Janus!
so what's the frankenswitch that results from the leftovers of this experiment. any good?
I would actually say not so much... It'll be an odd brown switch that is even scratchier than stock lol.
@@Keybored hah! right on. thx for the reply!
Really nice tutorial man, they sound REALLY Good! If you don't mind me asking where did you buy the keycaps from?
Hi Zas! After my multiple attempts to get my hands on the GMK olivia++ failed, I just googled it, found some clones on Aliexpress and pulled the trigger. Surprisingly, they are not bad lol.
@@Keybored Haha, yeah they're so hard to get. This replica looks pretty nice. By any chance do you know the seller or price you got it for? Many thanks :D
@@serene4566 I believe the seller was G-MKY (yeah... haha) and it was around $50. They are doubleshot PBT and are actually super thick. Even the spacebar is doubleshot which is interesting. The feel, quality and sound is nice, but the legends are so-so.
@@Keybored Haha thanks man!
Can u make more switch combination videos plzz
Hi wahida! I'll look into that! So many switches out there lately haga
I was thinking of building a keyboard but I'm stuck between kalih whites, navy's or creams. Anyone got any input on which you would go for and why?
Hi Bad Video Montages! I would personally go with the creams because I prefer linears over clicky. The navy's are very loud and fairly stiff, while the whites are fairly soft. I would probably do cream, then white, then navy. But at the end of the day, it's all preference!
Nice. Hope you can also do budget keyboards
Hi Mimoe! I'm currently working on what I can do to further improve the nk65 ee. Hopefully I'll have content on that soon!
good content!! you better be at least 5k subs the next time i see your video
Hi Shibuya! I appreciate the comments! Will keep trying and more content to come!
Hey man where did you get these clones from? They look sweet. Nice job by the way.
Thank you Variamente! I did a google search and they lead me to aliexpress. The vendor's name is G-MKY. Hope that helps!
Love this! Keep it up!
Hi Cooper! Thank you so much for watching! I appreciate it!
Love these f*coin tutorials man, holy keep this up
Thanks for watching and for the comments! Will have more content coming soon!
great video man! though itd be sick if you also showed what the creams sounded like on your board originally. keep up the good work man! :)
Thank you ProfessorSkitz! Will definitely consider that for the future. It slipped my mind to do a before/after. :)
Saw this video literally hours after buying my first board. No points for guessing which switches I chose.
:) Browns are OK! I actually do enjoy the Cap V2 browns :)
Does this work with milky top black bottom Gaterons like what they sell at NovelKeys?
Hi Cowabunga! Sure should! For the milky top, you can also use those since they do have a better sound than the pc clear tops!
Speaking of the Gateron Blue housings, you could totally fling some Halo stems into those and get Holy Gats. Sharper tactility than HP’s and less post-travel. Tho Gat blues with linear stems remind me of Invyr Panda linears, and not in a good way.
can I do this with my Gateron Browns? I wanted to make a Holy Gat but with light tactility
I'm about to try this on my holy pandas, wish me luck!
Good luck! Let us know how it turns out!
how about the sound of the rest of the remainder of the parts
Will keep that in mind next time! I have the durock Pom switch review coming up and will include that!
How do you get so much flex on the D65?
Hi Jimmy! When I applied the adhesive gasket to the plate, overall, the D65 delivered a fairly soft and muted typing feel. Hope that helps!
Another great video!
Thanks! I appreciate it!
Holy shit, those switches perfectly matched taeha's built keyboard for tfue. Might as well try this
:) They sound very unique. I think these are the clackiest switches I have tried so far