Hi. I've recently returned to MTGA and am learning the new cards/mechanics etc. I appreciate your video immensely thanks. I've played the Starter decks and agree with your points and would highlight the following upgrades for Standard: For all of these decks, add 1 or 2 mana (preferably instant speed) spells to provide early interaction vs aggro such as Mono Red = Essential. E.G. White - Elspeth's Smite; Blue - Into the Flood Maw; Black - Cut down / Savor; Red - Shock/Torch the tower; Green - Bush Whack / Hard hitting questions. Remove the combat tricks / pump spells from the Starter decks to make room for these. I found a lot of the Tribal decks (WU, UB, BR, RG, GW ) hard to upgrade without crafting specific cards for the deck that don't cross over well to other decks. Patchwork Banner could be added to them. UG Deserts: slow Ramp deck with so many lands enter tapped and can't keep up with aggro. BG Food: Really good in meta; removal and life gain :)
Personally, the thing about the Boros deck that disappointed me the most was the lack of a surveil land. But I have the same complaint about the izzet deck, so... *shrugs* I personally had the most successful with Snack Time, and had the hardest time *against* Fairy Pranks. (Especially because I kept queueing against it with Dinos.)
Man, I love your reviews. If they are of battle passes, of Jump In, or such decks, I love to see your informed opinion, because I know I can trust it. Thank you for that.
The Boros Equipment deck from the last set was my go-to when I needed a quick win. So far I'm having the most success with U/G and U/R decks for the new set. Cheers!
I only tried 3 new decks so far - Boros, Azorius and Orzhov and I actually found Azorius the most consistent out of the three. Orzhov really pops when you draw Delney, but without it it might just be too small to stop the opponent reliably. With the detectives, it felt like I always had a lot of flyers for cheap damage and card advantage with clues.
i honestly think that luck both for the match-up and the cards you get matters at least 70% for the win,, regardless of what you'll do about it and that's pretty annoying
For anyone still wondering what the best deck is, its WG Saddle Up. Very consistent, great threats, okayish removal and nice combat tricks to help you establish a dominating board state. I'm currently at an 84% winrate (76-15). Keep in mind, I'm a veteran Magic player but even for new players the deck should be relatively easy to pilot.
@@manuelbartz8866 that's interesting to know. Have you played many games with any other deck to compare? I see a lot of misplays from opponents in these matches, so over 60-70% might be expected for decently experienced players.
@@gameschooldadMTG Hmm, never thought about it that way. At first, I tested the UB Faerie deck because it looked like the most synergistic one and I like those kind of decks. However, I quickly had to realise even medium sized creatures tend to be a problem for the deck, there is too little interaction and your fliers dont hit hard enough (60% winrate, 9-6 which is still good). Then I thought about the WU Clue deck but eventually chose the WG deck because big green creatures seemed to be the way to go.
I am someone who has dedicated a shit ton of time in starter deck duel mostly because i lack the cards to make a proper standard deck. I pretty much only play starter deck duel and i can say for certain that this pre made starter deck are more or less closer in power to each other than the last one. I do agree that saddle up is a strong starter deck but some others are extremely powerful as well. Such as Desert Oasis and Power to people. Outlaw posse, snack time and dino might are also pretty good. Faerie and second chance are kind of match up dependant and might be inconsistent or just kind go nowhere. And ancient discoveries is the worst of the bunch by far. In my personal opinion, Dino might has the most strength per skill cap (strong and very easy to play). Closely followed by Desert Oasis
A standard sample size would be n=40. Meaning that each deck should be tested 40 times, ideally under similar circumstances (e.g. similar level of opponents). It should be noted that 40 is indeed an arbitrary number, but it’s the number that psychologists would use a the lowest “serious” sample size.
noob here. appreciate the explanations. got blasted over and over using Boros and Izzet (did I get the colors right? red+white and red+blue) so I tried the GW saddle up and that seems to be working. Strung together a couple wins. Feels like I go up against Desert Oasis like half the time.
Everyone's a noob to start with! I agree that the Boros and Izzet decks feel pretty inconsistent, and the Simic landfall deck feels like an easy choice compared to the competition, but they can all do well against each other sometimes.
@@gameschooldadMTG It's funny, I go up against the Desert Oasis deck so much that it makes me not want to play it myself. The black+green deck seems strong too, I don't do well against that at all
Yeah, idk about those stats...Ive gotten many wins off of WU already...but the one that crushes me every time is UG...I can see why GB is effective though. Overall, I think this one is far more even than the previous starter decks...WR in the last season was broken
Just one question for the "Starter Decks 2024 Format", if you modify your deck, switching between 3-4 bad cards with other copie of really good card that you already have in your collection, does the matchmaking take this in the balance or not? I mean, for the daily color quest, do you better have to play this new deck with the originial version or if you change something you play against Tier 1 decks?? (And you have no chance to win, even with a starter modified deck) Thanks for the job ! 😉👍
@@leonardsperti4968 if you're playing in the Started Deck Duel event, you can't edit the decks. If you copy the deck, change some cards, and play in Standard with them, you probably won't do very well unless your opponent keeps a terrible hand.
@@gameschooldadMTG Ok thanks for the answer. I missed the info for this event so I think I will use it for the Color Daily Quest. It's sometimes cool to do your quest relax without pressure of the Ladder. Thank you for this guide 👍
needed to use the blue/white deck for daily quests. jeez, it's rough. For the "card-drawing" deck, you sure don't get to draw a lot of cards. Every game you don't find Ezrim in is basically an automatic loss
Ok thanks well i guess is kinda usefull i was looking for the Eldrain's Wilds knight and Reanimation Spell but i didn't had enough wildcards so is very nice@@gameschooldadMTG
Yeah that's something that people seem to ask for enough, but as we've got 4 sets rotating out of Standard and new cards coming in a week, I'm going to wait until then to take a good look at them.
For anyone just starting out in Arena, these decks are a great way to get them going but for the rest of us, I wouldn't play any of these as is. They are starter decks as in a good place to start from but not quite finished. I wished they would've given us extra copies of these cards but guess that's asking too much of WotC.
I'm a grizzled arena veteran with multiple accounts and still use the starter deck duels for either some quick wins or to satisfy daily quests. I find them refreshingly simple to play, fun, and in some ways a throw-back to the older days of magic! Cheers!
I really like the new decks and it feels as if they did a much better job than last time. It's a great way for players who like lower power level formats in a more or less even playing field without the stress and time to play real limited formats. Thanks a lot for the the overview. Overall green big stats decks seem to do pretty well this time.
Yeah i mean these decks arent made with winning in mind they are simply to let new players dabble in alot of different play styles, once they picked out a favorite you can start crafting some more cards for it.
The ones with the simplest play patterns will be the best for beginners. Ancient Discovery is good for that, but it's not a great deck. Desert Oasis and Dino Might are probably good for that too. I'd avoid the red/blue and blue/black decks if you want an easier deck to run, their synergies could be a little more complicated.
They did a poor job of balancing the decks last time but worse is they never followed up with balancing so they showed zero care for their own game and that turns me off.
I thought starter duels would be for new players, not high end players using the brainless Desert Oasis, 3/5 matches is DO. Incredibly discouraging because it's either suffer against it, play high removal EVEN THEN it might not be enough or give into the brainless cheese and play DO.
I can't wait for rotation, everything in Arena will change, oh wait nothing changes the same hyper broken shuffler with trash ass Dota MMR.... same shit different day...
@@alexlore4716 I'm sorry the mean corporation provided a hugely popular game that you're able to play for free as much as you want, from anywhere. They should pay for this injustice!
Hi. I've recently returned to MTGA and am learning the new cards/mechanics etc. I appreciate your video immensely thanks.
I've played the Starter decks and agree with your points and would highlight the following upgrades for Standard:
For all of these decks, add 1 or 2 mana (preferably instant speed) spells to provide early interaction vs aggro such as Mono Red = Essential.
E.G. White - Elspeth's Smite; Blue - Into the Flood Maw; Black - Cut down / Savor; Red - Shock/Torch the tower; Green - Bush Whack / Hard hitting questions.
Remove the combat tricks / pump spells from the Starter decks to make room for these.
I found a lot of the Tribal decks (WU, UB, BR, RG, GW ) hard to upgrade without crafting specific cards for the deck that don't cross over well to other decks.
Patchwork Banner could be added to them.
UG Deserts: slow Ramp deck with so many lands enter tapped and can't keep up with aggro.
BG Food: Really good in meta; removal and life gain
:)
FINALLLLLLY!!!!! Standard rotation! Felt like there wasn't one in like 2 years....
I saw what you did there.
As someone new to MtG, this is super awesome. You actually tell how to play the importafgift vares. Thanks!
@@HUDEM glad you found it helpful 😁👍
Time for Boros Discovery to pay for the sins of its predecessor
Making a 14 power goblin with double strike and trample was fun though 😂
It felt good and consistent to play with the green/blue deck during the midweek event.
Personally, the thing about the Boros deck that disappointed me the most was the lack of a surveil land. But I have the same complaint about the izzet deck, so... *shrugs*
I personally had the most successful with Snack Time, and had the hardest time *against* Fairy Pranks. (Especially because I kept queueing against it with Dinos.)
Man, I love your reviews. If they are of battle passes, of Jump In, or such decks, I love to see your informed opinion, because I know I can trust it. Thank you for that.
@@Samaelwyn thanks so much 😁👍
The Boros Equipment deck from the last set was my go-to when I needed a quick win. So far I'm having the most success with U/G and U/R decks for the new set. Cheers!
I only tried 3 new decks so far - Boros, Azorius and Orzhov and I actually found Azorius the most consistent out of the three. Orzhov really pops when you draw Delney, but without it it might just be too small to stop the opponent reliably. With the detectives, it felt like I always had a lot of flyers for cheap damage and card advantage with clues.
Thanks for doing the Legwork for the players
i honestly think that luck both for the match-up and the cards you get matters at least 70% for the win,, regardless of what you'll do about it and that's pretty annoying
For anyone still wondering what the best deck is, its WG Saddle Up. Very consistent, great threats, okayish removal and nice combat tricks to help you establish a dominating board state. I'm currently at an 84% winrate (76-15). Keep in mind, I'm a veteran Magic player but even for new players the deck should be relatively easy to pilot.
@@manuelbartz8866 that's interesting to know. Have you played many games with any other deck to compare? I see a lot of misplays from opponents in these matches, so over 60-70% might be expected for decently experienced players.
@@gameschooldadMTG Hmm, never thought about it that way. At first, I tested the UB Faerie deck because it looked like the most synergistic one and I like those kind of decks. However, I quickly had to realise even medium sized creatures tend to be a problem for the deck, there is too little interaction and your fliers dont hit hard enough (60% winrate, 9-6 which is still good). Then I thought about the WU Clue deck but eventually chose the WG deck because big green creatures seemed to be the way to go.
I am someone who has dedicated a shit ton of time in starter deck duel mostly because i lack the cards to make a proper standard deck. I pretty much only play starter deck duel and i can say for certain that this pre made starter deck are more or less closer in power to each other than the last one.
I do agree that saddle up is a strong starter deck but some others are extremely powerful as well.
Such as Desert Oasis and Power to people. Outlaw posse, snack time and dino might are also pretty good.
Faerie and second chance are kind of match up dependant and might be inconsistent or just kind go nowhere.
And ancient discoveries is the worst of the bunch by far.
In my personal opinion, Dino might has the most strength per skill cap (strong and very easy to play). Closely followed by Desert Oasis
I've had the best results with Faeries, but the sample size for me isn't too big.
Had the worst time with fairies
I've been playing with a slightly more refined list of power to the people. And when it works you can have your opponent top decking by turn 5
You need fortune the noble stead tho to really push
A standard sample size would be n=40. Meaning that each deck should be tested 40 times, ideally under similar circumstances (e.g. similar level of opponents).
It should be noted that 40 is indeed an arbitrary number, but it’s the number that psychologists would use a the lowest “serious” sample size.
I thought it was supposed to be n=30 at the lowest? That's what I learned in high school statistics
Nice job on breaking down the decks.
Thanks :)
Connecting the Dots is good with some patience, but better in a token creatures deck.
noob here. appreciate the explanations. got blasted over and over using Boros and Izzet (did I get the colors right? red+white and red+blue) so I tried the GW saddle up and that seems to be working. Strung together a couple wins. Feels like I go up against Desert Oasis like half the time.
Everyone's a noob to start with! I agree that the Boros and Izzet decks feel pretty inconsistent, and the Simic landfall deck feels like an easy choice compared to the competition, but they can all do well against each other sometimes.
@@gameschooldadMTG It's funny, I go up against the Desert Oasis deck so much that it makes me not want to play it myself.
The black+green deck seems strong too, I don't do well against that at all
i wish they added those cards into your collection even if you have a copy.
@@khmergodhobbies that would definitely be nicer!
@@gameschooldadMTG the irony is i crafted a few mythics like delney, ghalta, and rares like ezrim before they gave me these decks LOL. feels bad
Yeah, idk about those stats...Ive gotten many wins off of WU already...but the one that crushes me every time is UG...I can see why GB is effective though. Overall, I think this one is far more even than the previous starter decks...WR in the last season was broken
@@Heleous281 yeah the stats are still based on a relatively small sample size like I said, but it's interesting early data to look at.
Just one question for the "Starter Decks 2024 Format", if you modify your deck, switching between 3-4 bad cards with other copie of really good card that you already have in your collection, does the matchmaking take this in the balance or not?
I mean, for the daily color quest, do you better have to play this new deck with the originial version or if you change something you play against Tier 1 decks?? (And you have no chance to win, even with a starter modified deck)
Thanks for the job ! 😉👍
@@leonardsperti4968 if you're playing in the Started Deck Duel event, you can't edit the decks. If you copy the deck, change some cards, and play in Standard with them, you probably won't do very well unless your opponent keeps a terrible hand.
@@gameschooldadMTG Ok thanks for the answer. I missed the info for this event so I think I will use it for the Color Daily Quest. It's sometimes cool to do your quest relax without pressure of the Ladder. Thank you for this guide 👍
needed to use the blue/white deck for daily quests. jeez, it's rough. For the "card-drawing" deck, you sure don't get to draw a lot of cards. Every game you don't find Ezrim in is basically an automatic loss
I don't usually follow news of Arena so how does this starter decks work they are free? You have to buy them?
They are free decks added to your account for the Starter Deck Duel event.
@@gameschooldadMTG so i just enter the game and i have them? So what happens with thouse cards that i already have 4 copies?
@@dely9999 if you didn't already have them, they are added to your account. If you have them already, nothing changes.
Ok thanks well i guess is kinda usefull i was looking for the Eldrain's Wilds knight and Reanimation Spell but i didn't had enough wildcards so is very nice@@gameschooldadMTG
Will you be posting a vid on upgrading the decks?
Yeah that's something that people seem to ask for enough, but as we've got 4 sets rotating out of Standard and new cards coming in a week, I'm going to wait until then to take a good look at them.
For anyone just starting out in Arena, these decks are a great way to get them going but for the rest of us, I wouldn't play any of these as is. They are starter decks as in a good place to start from but not quite finished. I wished they would've given us extra copies of these cards but guess that's asking too much of WotC.
I'm a grizzled arena veteran with multiple accounts and still use the starter deck duels for either some quick wins or to satisfy daily quests. I find them refreshingly simple to play, fun, and in some ways a throw-back to the older days of magic! Cheers!
I really like the new decks and it feels as if they did a much better job than last time. It's a great way for players who like lower power level formats in a more or less even playing field without the stress and time to play real limited formats. Thanks a lot for the the overview.
Overall green big stats decks seem to do pretty well this time.
Yeah i mean these decks arent made with winning in mind they are simply to let new players dabble in alot of different play styles, once they picked out a favorite you can start crafting some more cards for it.
Wich one is the best for beginers?
The ones with the simplest play patterns will be the best for beginners. Ancient Discovery is good for that, but it's not a great deck. Desert Oasis and Dino Might are probably good for that too. I'd avoid the red/blue and blue/black decks if you want an easier deck to run, their synergies could be a little more complicated.
They did a poor job of balancing the decks last time but worse is they never followed up with balancing so they showed zero care for their own game and that turns me off.
Boros equipments vs Simic Scry was straight up abuse
I thought starter duels would be for new players, not high end players using the brainless Desert Oasis, 3/5 matches is DO. Incredibly discouraging because it's either suffer against it, play high removal EVEN THEN it might not be enough or give into the brainless cheese and play DO.
Same man, I'm brand new to magic and it's not stop with these desert oasis decks whopping me in 5 turns, like bro idk what I'm doing
None of the options are brainless. They are all just different styles of play.
Second Chance is not working for me at all. 8 games in and zero wins with it. the synergy is so hit or miss.
When will there be new starter decks for Bloomborrow?
@@snapshot79 the starter decks are renewed every year, not for every set.
These precons are rough
Green rogue to rakdos
Have you tried these decks? Not sure this guy is right.
You think the data he collected is wrong?
Dino mythic is unplayble,ita better to have 1 colourless land.
I found it was alright.
I can't wait for rotation, everything in Arena will change, oh wait nothing changes the same hyper broken shuffler with trash ass Dota MMR.... same shit different day...
No one is forcing you to play the game if you think it wants you to lose.
@@gameschooldadMTG I don't think WOTC got caught then admitted it...
@@alexlore4716 I'm sorry the mean corporation provided a hugely popular game that you're able to play for free as much as you want, from anywhere. They should pay for this injustice!
@@gameschooldadMTG Hasbro paid shill covering for a cash grab scam...
@@gameschooldadMTG Google 13 mountain rdw deck.... work the Algo brah ....
this game is a SCAM