We tested a similar set on a 4runner and they hold quite well as an entry level. Ideally for those who don't want to spend a ton but want to get into off-roading a bit to feel it out.
I just bought a 2006 Tundra SR5 double cab 4x4 and ordered the 5100s from Shock Surplus for the front. I have the Bilstein 4600 in rear. What is the max lift you can install in the front without having to make changes to other suspension components? Also, what is the 5100 max lift for a 4x4? I like the rake look but I'm thinking just a small lift in the front at this time that would keep me from having to do other suspension modification/upgrades at the moment. I want to crawl into this new world of truck lifting. The only towing I do is a 5x8 trailer with a zero turn mower, edger and string trimmer, so nothing too heaving. I do wildlife photography and mountain biking so I do go onto trails but not rock crawling etc. Also, can you offer any tire size recommendations? Thanks...
I am running Bilstein 5100 in the front and 5160 in the rear with Old man Emu springs on my FJ Cruiser. My tires are 285/70/17 Cooper STT PRO’s No complaints. Great affordable set up.
Nice explanation of the front lift. I see 5100s advertising 0-1" lift in the rear but I see people online saying you only get lift with blocks or AAL. Can I get that inch with the 5100s in the rear to keep things level?
@@ShockSurplusthanks for the info and great video. So is it possible to just upgrade the front shocks to Bilstein and run your stock oem shocks In rear if your just looking for a small front level? I have a newer taco and I think the rears are still good, wondering if the mix and match is possible or?
Such a great video !! Just got a 17 Limited 4WD with 5100s Appears too be at the highest setting, Can I lower the height to one click up from stock without taking the susp out?
Its not safely-possible, we've heard of some people doing that, but its not advised. Do you have the Tacoma or the 4Runner? We may have a pair of those here we could set at the right height, and make a trade? Ours are slightly used, contact us
@@ShockSurplus mine are slightly used too but I’m good shape . They’re on my Limited Tacoma . Is it worth the shipping ti swap them or just show me how to lower the collar lol .
To adjust the collar, you would need to remove the front struts assembly and have the spring compressed. The lower spring seat can then be moved away for a bit. You need a Circlip tool to then move the circlip to a different lower settings.
They definitely will feel a little firmer than stock in most cases, but the majority of our customers prefer the ride on the 5100s to their stock suspension. If you are looking for something more on the plush side some Fox 2.0 Snap Rings or Eibach Pro Truck Sports might be the better call
Yup they are probably one of the best shocks on the market under a load, which also means they are on the firmer side unloaded. Eibachs are a good sweet spot for somebody looking for a soft ride but still want something markedly better than stock under a load
Awesome content! Would you please help me figure out which clip setting I should be at to replicate the ride height of my stock TRD Off-road? This model (and I think it’s the same for the TRD Pro) is 1” higher than than SR5 and TRD Sport. Thanks.
@@ShockSurplus When I traded in my 2017 TRD Sport for my current 2020 TRD Off-road, the OR stood higher when the trucks were parked next to each other. I believe I saw someone say the same thing on Tacoma World. Actually, it was the sales guy who noticed it. My main goal is figuring out how to replicate this height. Thank you
We, unfortunately, do not offer installation at this time. If you would like to have a shop install it, we do work with a couple locations local to us. Please contact us directly via phone call, email, or DM and we'll steer you in the right direction.
I have a 2022 Trd Sport 4X4. I am looking to get some Biksteins 5100s. I am not sure if I need them for the rear as well and i would like to make the truck leveled with the rear. Not too sure what to get. Any advice would be appreciated
For the 5100 circlips you had his #2 setting at almost 1 inch lift , how about #3 setting on the Bilstein 5100 for the Tacoma 2WD (It is 1.1 inches for the 4WD)
what do you mean by difference? in ride height, or in ride quality? difference on pavement or offroad? hit us up with some more details - support@shocksurplus.com
@@ShockSurplus it was easy to install they ride harder the factory trd sport shocks but I’m sure they have to break in There definitely a upgrade since I tow and the rear doesn’t sag so much now it still sagging but seems stiffer
I added 5150's in the front of my 2017 trd sport. Even on the lowest setting. My truck seems really high. Tires don't rub but there's only a 5/8 gap between the tire wall and control arm.
@@ShockSurplus wow! Your right the spring seat is backwards. Flat side is up with the bell down. Thanks! Out of curiosity how much height does this mistake add to the suspension?
That is really a subjective thing. Most of our customers prefer the ride of a 5100 over stock, however they are on the firmer side of the spectrum compared to similar parts made by other brands.
You do not need 3" to clear 285s on a 3rd gen Tacoma. 285/70/17 or 285/75/16. You need to remove the mud flaps, you will rub a bit at the cab mount under full lock and possibly the lower part of the bumper depending on the tire. What we have on one a 3rd gen Tacoma in our fleet is do the cab mount chop and viper cut just make it easy. There's also no coilover or strut assembly that we offer that will net you more then 2" on average with the exception of Icon which is 2.25"
I am Running 5100's on all 4 corners with Old Man Emu springs and an Icon AAL for the rear. 285/70/17 BFG KO2's.
i had the same setup. definitely did not let me down ever
We tested a similar set on a 4runner and they hold quite well as an entry level. Ideally for those who don't want to spend a ton but want to get into off-roading a bit to feel it out.
I’m looking for a place right now to do install for that same setup. La area
Any rub?
Ridiculously well explained. Thank you so much. I can tell you know your stuff. Appreciate all the information.
Glad it was helpful!
I just bought a 2006 Tundra SR5 double cab 4x4 and ordered the 5100s from Shock Surplus for the front. I have the Bilstein 4600 in rear. What is the max lift you can install in the front without having to make changes to other suspension components? Also, what is the 5100 max lift for a 4x4? I like the rake look but I'm thinking just a small lift in the front at this time that would keep me from having to do other suspension modification/upgrades at the moment. I want to crawl into this new world of truck lifting. The only towing I do is a 5x8 trailer with a zero turn mower, edger and string trimmer, so nothing too heaving. I do wildlife photography and mountain biking so I do go onto trails but not rock crawling etc. Also, can you offer any tire size recommendations? Thanks...
I am running Bilstein 5100 in the front and 5160 in the rear with Old man Emu springs on my FJ Cruiser.
My tires are 285/70/17 Cooper STT PRO’s
No complaints. Great affordable set up.
That sounds great! Yeah they're a solid set up for getting yourself onto trails at the start.
Hi if i bought bilstein 1500 can i equip my stock coil spring in it?
They are designed to work in correlation with the stock OEM springs.
Bought a 2wd truck for the snow?
He is having some slight regrets but it's fine for him. He's planning to get a 4WD when things at his new job settle in.
Wait so what would I need to lift my 4x2 Tacoma 2”? I’m wanting to out 275/70r17s on. This is all preference, I don’t and wouldn’t use 4x4.
Bilstein 5100s work, Fox 2.0 snap rings work, eibach pro truck shocks work. You can also use a strut spacer from a bunch of different brands
I have a 2021 and am looking to level the front to match the rear with 5100 shocks.
Any idea what setting on the shock should be?
Nice explanation of the front lift. I see 5100s advertising 0-1" lift in the rear but I see people online saying you only get lift with blocks or AAL. Can I get that inch with the 5100s in the rear to keep things level?
You cannot get any lift in the rear of your Tacoma from the shocks themselves. You need to get a rear block, rear add a leaf or a rear full leaf pack.
@@ShockSurplusthanks for the info and great video. So is it possible to just upgrade the front shocks to Bilstein and run your stock oem shocks In rear if your just looking for a small front level? I have a newer taco and I think the rears are still good, wondering if the mix and match is possible or?
Where is this garage located and the shop name ,thanks.
Please contact us directly for shop recommendations that are local to us.
2WD in the snow? Have fun.
Such a great video !! Just got a 17 Limited 4WD with 5100s Appears too be at the highest setting, Can I lower the height to one click up from stock without taking the susp out?
Its not safely-possible, we've heard of some people doing that, but its not advised. Do you have the Tacoma or the 4Runner? We may have a pair of those here we could set at the right height, and make a trade? Ours are slightly used, contact us
@@ShockSurplus mine are slightly used too but I’m good shape . They’re on my Limited Tacoma . Is it worth the shipping ti swap them or just show me how to lower the collar lol .
To adjust the collar, you would need to remove the front struts assembly and have the spring compressed. The lower spring seat can then be moved away for a bit. You need a Circlip tool to then move the circlip to a different lower settings.
Does this make the car more plush or ia it better through out the city also
They definitely will feel a little firmer than stock in most cases, but the majority of our customers prefer the ride on the 5100s to their stock suspension. If you are looking for something more on the plush side some Fox 2.0 Snap Rings or Eibach Pro Truck Sports might be the better call
@@ShockSurplus I work in construction and I am wondering if the 5100 can handle weight
Yup they are probably one of the best shocks on the market under a load, which also means they are on the firmer side unloaded. Eibachs are a good sweet spot for somebody looking for a soft ride but still want something markedly better than stock under a load
just bought the same 5100 for my tacoma at 100k for replacements, nice to see the explanation.
Awesome content!
Would you please help me figure out which clip setting I should be at to replicate the ride height of my stock TRD Off-road? This model (and I think it’s the same for the TRD Pro) is 1” higher than than SR5 and TRD Sport.
Thanks.
The TRD off-road does not come lifted. The TRD PRO has an option to come with a 2" front and 1" rear lift.
@@ShockSurplus When I traded in my 2017 TRD Sport for my current 2020 TRD Off-road, the OR stood higher when the trucks were parked next to each other. I believe I saw someone say the same thing on Tacoma World.
Actually, it was the sales guy who noticed it.
My main goal is figuring out how to replicate this height.
Thank you
@@ShockSurplus I found the manual for it. Thank you anyways.
@@selfpeace9539hey the offroad has a little taller tire
Am I able to have these installed at the irwindale location?
I want to do this same exact thing but with pizza cutters on the trd pro wheels in matte gray. Is that possible?
We, unfortunately, do not offer installation at this time. If you would like to have a shop install it, we do work with a couple locations local to us. Please contact us directly via phone call, email, or DM and we'll steer you in the right direction.
What is the best balancing wheels in the market i heard the at3 are phenomenal
Sorry, not familiar enough with all the wheel options to give a good answer here.
Great explanations, thank you!
I have a 2022 Trd Sport 4X4. I am looking to get some Biksteins 5100s. I am not sure if I need them for the rear as well and i would like to make the truck leveled with the rear. Not too sure what to get. Any advice would be appreciated
Run the Bilstein 5100. It's a great set up for the price.
For the 5100 circlips you had his #2 setting at almost 1 inch lift , how about #3 setting on the Bilstein 5100 for the Tacoma 2WD (It is 1.1 inches for the 4WD)
On a 2wd that should be just over an inch of lift
Will a stock 2015 tacoma see any difference in the front with these in the front?
what do you mean by difference? in ride height, or in ride quality? difference on pavement or offroad? hit us up with some more details - support@shocksurplus.com
@@ShockSurplus height...to level it out
I’m doing the rear today
sweet, let us know how it turns out
@@ShockSurplus it was easy to install they ride harder the factory trd sport shocks but I’m sure they have to break in
There definitely a upgrade since I tow and the rear doesn’t sag so much now it still sagging but seems stiffer
What notch gives you a 2 inch lift in the front for a 2WD?
Setting 5. The set includes instructions that lists the settings and associated lift heights as well
I added 5150's in the front of my 2017 trd sport. Even on the lowest setting. My truck seems really high. Tires don't rub but there's only a 5/8 gap between the tire wall and control arm.
Check the spring seat, this will happen if it is installed upside down
@@ShockSurplus wow! Your right the spring seat is backwards. Flat side is up with the bell down. Thanks! Out of curiosity how much height does this mistake add to the suspension?
How many settings are on the bilsteins. I ordered some and the picture shows 5. But my research only gives me 4 settings. Am i missing something ?
2005-2015 Toyota Tacoma - 2 x 24-324359 has 4 circlips. 2016-2023 Toyota Tacoma - 2 x 24-263108 has 5 circlips.
@@ShockSurplus that’s explains it. Thx !
Any issues with the max setting on 3rd gen?
Are 5100s too stiff?
That is really a subjective thing. Most of our customers prefer the ride of a 5100 over stock, however they are on the firmer side of the spectrum compared to similar parts made by other brands.
What if I have the stock bilstein but want that 3in clearance for 285s? So add the leveling kit?
Idc about crazy off roading, I do mountain biking lol
You do not need 3" to clear 285s on a 3rd gen Tacoma.
285/70/17 or 285/75/16.
You need to remove the mud flaps, you will rub a bit at the cab mount under full lock and possibly the lower part of the bumper depending on the tire. What we have on one a 3rd gen Tacoma in our fleet is do the cab mount chop and viper cut just make it easy.
There's also no coilover or strut assembly that we offer that will net you more then 2" on average with the exception of Icon which is 2.25"
@@ShockSurplusso there is no suspension change that will accommodate 285’s without cutting?
Working in crest line with a 2wd? Dumb.