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Random person: show me a buzz lightyear movie with out showing a buzz light year movie. Pixar and disney: shows buzz light year movie. Me: Curse you random person!!!
I said this before: Lightyear is not the movie Andy saw as a kid. Lightyear is the terrible, gritty, unnecessary reboot done 25 years later that Andy saw as an adult with his fiancé and afterwards shrugged and said, "eh, I like the original better."
Andy's mom: "You can only bring one toy to Pizza Planet" also Andy's mom: "Sure you can bring ALL of your toys to see "Lightyear" in the theater with you!"
@@battybuddy Yes, and Sid is actually old andy who traveled back in time to destroy buzz to prevent this movie from existing. He looked like a goblin because of the adverse effects of time traveling to the past.
It's so weird how Disney doesn't acknowledge the Lightyear TV show. They completely ignored it to make this movie and they don't even have it on Disney+
I'm pretty sure it's because of the deal with Pixar. Disney rolled the show out without taking the Toy Story creator's input or something like that. Pixar just did not like the cartoon.
"the better Pixar's animation gets the shittier their writing become?" YES. THANK YOU. IDGAF if your animation looks realistic now Pixar, it was never about that. MAKE ME CRY AGAIN.
If Sox was such an important character how come Andy never once tried to get a Sox toy? Or why did Toy Buzz never tried to look for him back in the first movie?
Exactly! It felt like they’ve thrown in Sox without considering about if Andy would like him. I bet the writers even forgot about Andy even existing entirely while writing!
Maybe because he didn’t have a Sox then… he still acted like the first portion’s Buzz.. BEFORE the light speed jump. Plus it was the 90s. You barely got the chance to get even one action figure rather than get buzz AND sox in one shot.
The only way to fix this continuity mess, is to come to the conclusion that Lightyear is a shitty 2020s reboot movie of Buzz of Star Command in the Toy Story Universe.
The problem with this movie is, that it’s to “dark” and modern to be a 90s children movie. The 90s were a time that most children movies(there are exceptions, but those aren’t as popular) were a lighthearted and fun experience for the whole family. This movie is neither.
Yeah, the tone of this is more in line with a PG-13 Space movie of that area which I'm sure a handful of kids did like back then but it wasn't the type of thing a lot of young kids would go crazy for.
If Star Command was capable of making amazing robotic intelligence like Sox, why didn't they just used him to test the crystal for hyperspeed rather than a human like Buzz?
I think what happened was that the creators of Pixar actually hated the TV show and wanted to make something more serious because that's what Pixar does. And then Disney came ruined it even more.
Yeah, I actually read somewhere that Pixar doesn't like being associated with the TV show so that's probably why. But the show's characters were way more fun and interesting than the ones in the movie, and I'm pretty sure if Pixar can make us cry about a pink imaginary elephant, they can 100% find a way to make those characters taken seriously
@@gelato9630 I really wish they'd get over that. If they can release a critical bomb that's financially successful in Cars 2, surely they can acknowledge a silly early 2000's cartoon centered around Buzz and a bunch of new ocs
The movie felt too modern for a movie that was supposed to be in the 90s that inspired a kid. Felt too much like Interstellar or Annihilation. Why not go with something colorful and fun like The Jetsons, The Fifth Element, Beyond Good and Evil, and the Ratchet and Clank games.
funny you say that, Ratchet and Clank is a way better space action adventure series then this movie, even the worst games in the series are better then this
Doesn't make sense for this to be the movie that Andy watched and loved so much he wanted a toy from it. Lightyear doesn't even feel like a good movie for kids, it's too dark and too convoluted.
I feel like Lightyear COULD have worked with the set-up they were going for. Like, what if they WEREN'T stranded on an alien planet, but Buzz was instead a test pilot meant to be testing their hyperspace travel. We get to see him go through the academy and finally get chosen to fly the ship and when he does, he's accidentally launched off course far from home. He then ends up having a planet-hopping adventure in an attempt to get home all while being chased down by Zerg who wants his hyperspace crystal in order to allow his robot troops quicker access to planets all over the galaxy. He meets a bunch of fun, alien friends, maybe even still has Sox as a kind of utility cat robot thing. It allows him to actually BE a SPACE RANGER while also being inexperienced and getting to grow with his adventures and new friends. They finally get back to earth with Zerg hot on their tail because Buzz believes that they have the military capabilities that MIGHT almost level the playing field. (They can do the time-travel reveal if they really want to. Maybe he gets to Earth and thinks he's in the clear only to find that he's been gone for YEARS and was presumed dead with a memorial plaque or something in his honor at the academy. It's not super important to the story, I guess, unless you just want that grit.) Zerg arrives, they have a massive planet-side air battle while the mothership is in the upper atmosphere, Buzz gets on board and with the help of his alien space buddies, loads the Hyperspace crystal onto Zerg's ship and rigs it to explode on arrival. They send Zerg off FAR AWAY and then the crystal explodes, nearly EVICERATING Zerg's mothership, but he survives and vows revenge classic Saturday-Morning-Cartoon style which leaves room for Zerg to be a constant presence in Buzz's story justify video games in the Toy Story universe. Buzz officially becomes a full-fledged space ranger along with his friends and they take to space to solve more intergalactic problems. The End.
This is SO MUCH betterthan the actual movie... like yeah its cliche but if it's a movie made solely for selling toys then its bound to be as corny as possible, but thats what makes them fun
It’s all the hell is Zurg’s origin is never consistent: In Toy Story 2 it was confirmed that Zurg was Buzz’s father. In the cartoon Zurg was seemingly just a robot although there was a single joke where he claimed to be his father, it was immediately revealed that he was lying. And we all know how this movie adapted his story.
In Toy Story, lightyear is a franchise showing Zurg in the game at the start of 2 as a force to be reckoned with, showing no humor and running a power base threatening universe. A Darth Vader/emperor character sort to speak. The cartoon is playing cartoon logic, Zurg is a mustache villain, there are other villains who are more intelligent and threat, NOST4R2, And evil emperor buzz Lightyear from alternate universe. Both shows has Zurg as the ultimate Evil to threaten Buzz Ultimate Good. The cartoon show Zurg is so evil, he can turn a good orb into evil which Buzz was only one to undo it with him being purely good. The movie turns the two conflicts as one doing whatever it takes vs. not going overboard on doing whatever it takes.
Zurg is Lightyear’s father in the Buzz Lightyear video game in the actual Toy Story universe, so that game must’ve been a very loose adaptation of the movie Andy watched. Otherwise, the game contradicts the movie, making the Zurg plot twist even more convoluted.
Don’t forget, Zurg tries to kill Buzz… so his future self tried to kill his past self… Pretty sure even Neo Cortex figured out “I CANT kill HIM, cause that would kill ME!”
@@battybuddy an unnecessary reboot done in live action with new actors that just can’t get the same feel as the original. Replacing Tim Allen with the actor Chris Evans. And re working the story to fit a narrative it shouldn’t have to.
Not sure if anyones mentioned this, but the promo art itself is so contrived (not just with the alien toys) If Andy brought Woody, Rex and the others with him to see Lightyear, wouldn't they have recognised toy buzz in the first toy story film?? I dunno man this film is fine on its own but as a diehard toy story fan it annoys me.
@@cajunking5987 Are you suggesting that Andy has already seen Lightyear a few times and that he brought all the toys to the movie after his birthday when he got the Buzz toy AND didn't bring Buzz to the theater? I hope not.
If you watch the first Toy Story movie, the montage of Andy slowly replacing his cowboy stuff with space ranger stuff show a trend of Buzz being a HUGE recruiter for space rangers, which completely contradicts his character here since he refuses to work with rookies AND in the end he rejects OTHER qualified applicants just to be with his friends.
Ehhhh that doesn't really count though. Even in real life, a lot of merchandise that features popular characters doesn't match what the characters are actually like.
It’s even funnier cause Buzz would sometimes work alone in the cartoon, but it wasn’t cause he hated rookies, it was because he didn’t want people to idk DIE. He literally cares about the safety of new recruits and just people in general
@@t-7777 yeah, there was no way they could make Zurg be Buzz’s dad because then it would literally just be a direct ripoff of Star Wars. I don’t know why people expect everything the toys said to be canon in this movie
@@MiloMurphysLaw well they should have made it his father so it would be emotional seeing a father and son fight and also they released it on fathers day and we didn't expect any i am your father also lizzys grandma doesn't have a husband So is Disney making fun of dad's on fathers day saying that nobody has a father and women can make kids without a husband Disney is having a hard time this year this includes marvel movies and tv shows at least other movies that aren't Disney are doing good and every live action Disney movie didn't turn out great as the animated was
@@MiloMurphysLaw Well, if for example, it was a Luke Skywalker toy and it was based on "Star Wars: A New Hope", don't you think everything it said would not only be lines from the movie but also in Hammil's voice? I'm not a fan of this stuff but it sounds to me like the bad guy being Lightyear's father was SUPPOSED to be a parody of "Star Wars" in the first place so why not lean into that? Why not do a Lightyear movie that feels like the classic "Star Wars" movies? Still, given Disney's "Star Wars" track record they probably thought they did.
Isn't the story of _Lightyear_ just the basic plot of _Up_ except in a science fiction setting? *The main protagonist is adamant on completing a mission to honor his deceased best friend:* Carl Fredrickson wants to fly to Paradise Falls to honor his late wife Ellie. Buzz wants to find a way off the planet using light speed to honor his longtime comrade Alisha Hawthorne who passed away during his last hyperspace test run. *His stubbornness and lack of closure prevents him from moving on:* Carl assaults a construction worker for damaging his and Ellie's mailbox and is deemed a public menace in a court of law. He is later ordered to be sent to a nursing home for the elderly after a lawsuit. Buzz refuses to forgo his mission and relinquish his robotic cat companion Sox for decommissioning due to him having recently discovered a stable formula of crystallic fuel for hyperspace. This is also due to a new shift in command deciding to cancel any and all hyperspace test flights. *He defies authority to settle unfinished business:* Carl fashions his house into an aircraft using thousands of helium balloons. Buzz steals a spacecraft and jumps ahead decades into the future. *He reluctantly teams up with a band of misfits (which he later grows to care for) to achieve his goal:* A boy scout Russell, a rare and exotic bird named Kevin and a "talking" dog named Dug for Carl. Alisha's granddaughter Izzy, Buzz's personal companion Sox, paroled convict Darby, and clumsy recruit Mo for Buzz. *His determination to achieve his goal puts him at odds with the others:* Carl, being a cantankerous old man who still hasn't overcome his grief, gives up Kevin to protect his house despite promising Russell earlier that he wouldn't do such a thing. Buzz is initially frustrated by the group's lack of experience and training. He becomes especially despondent when Izzy accidentally discards the fusion energy when trying to escape Zurg's robotic minions, failing their objective and potentially foiling any chance of Buzz returning to the past. *He becomes disillusioned by another version of himself:* Carl meets his childhood idol Charles Muntz only to learn of the latter's murderous obsession with wanting to capture Kevin (Charles being the embodiment of Carl's lack of closure and refusal to move on from his past). Buzz meets his future self under the guise of Zurg who was obsessed with trying to find a way to travel backwards in time. *He winds up abandoning the initial mission in the end when he realizes what's most important in life:* Carl realizes that Ellie cherished her married life as an adventure all on its own and wanted Carl to have more. Buzz realizes that Alisha was happy with her life and that Izzy and her friends would probably never even exist if he chose to travel back in time like he initially wanted. *By the end of the movie, he remains content in his current place and starts new relationships with young faces while never forgetting the one he lost and holds dear to his heart:* Carl becomes a surrogate grandfather figure to Russell, doing all the activities that the boy and his father used to do. Buzz embraces his new team and heads off on the next mission. The similarities are so obscenely apparent it's not even funny.
They recycled a plot from a film they released in 2009 to close off the 2000s and wrote an entire film using practically all the same spots in an film for the early 2020s. Geez, one clearly did better
Up is the better film. And not just the first 10 minutes. I enjoyed the entire movie. The only part I cried at was the part where Carl is talking with the Boy Scout and realizes that he doesn’t have anyone to do “father/son activities” with. That awkward silence just gets me.
Those story beats aren't that unique though and tons of movies have similar plot points without being the same movie. What makes a movie special isn't the story itself but how that story is told
My biggest problem was that there's no worldbuilding. We know nothing about the state of humanity/galactic civilization outside this planet. We don't even know what the Turnip's original mission was. We don't know much about Star Command. We don't know ANYTHING about the Galactic Alliance. When it's namedropped at the end, it feels out of place, because the movie completely failed to establish the wider setting. It even forgets about Zurg being an Emperor!
Zurg was supposed to be Buzz’s FATHER. I have a theory they didn’t use the father trope because it would be kind of copying from Star Wars but this is PIXAR A DISNEY OWNED COMPANY WHICH ALSO OWNS EVERYTHING STAR WARS RELATED SO THERE WAS NO EXCUSE WHATSOEVER!
Yeah, saying that this movie is what inspired Andy to get a Buzz Lightyear toy is just stupid from every aspect. If you ask me, he got the idea of getting one from the Al's Toy Barn commercial! Not...this!
Could u imagine Toy Story if Andy actually played with Buzz the way this in movie-movie portrayed him, just sat there with Buzz whispering out some depressing lines instead of….. u know….. playing with him like a toy
Also, if this was actually the movie that Andy watched, I feel like Sox would come with the Buzz toy as an accessory. But he doesn’t. Because he never existed and this movie makes no sense
I watched this movie on a plane a while back and remember thinking that there was basically not a single time things went to plan. Which sure, is more realistic, but I was practical begging for them to "just let this be a normal spacetrip" and the movie kept responding with "With the Buzz? No way aaawww cruising down on the planet, you're stressed and feeling bad, next thing that you know you're seeing, stupid time paradox in the neighborhood!" and it drove me insane.
One correction to your video: It was actually Pixar's decision to decanonize the Buzz Lightyear TV show. This is because back in the early 2000s, before Disney bought Pixar, Disney owned the rights to Toy Story and decided to make the Buzz Lightyear of Star Command cartoon as a spinoff without Pixar's input or consent which made Pixar absolutely despise it. They were only told to animate part of the intro, but nothing else about the production.
@@ReddwarfIV I think they were just disappointed because they weren’t a part of it. That disappointment probably evolved into jealousy and then into full-on resentment.
@@UniqueHandles Or y'know, losing creative control and having a bunch of people demand you make a thing that was never your creative intent can kind of suck. People can dislike things for wholly valid and well thought out reasons.
8:15 the explanation always bothered me personally cause like. It's actually based on a real phenomenon known as time dilation, where as an object's speed through space approaches the speed of light, it's speed through time approaches 0, and time for everything else speeds up relative to that object. The problem with this explanation in the movie though is that first off, it doesn't actually make sense for him to travel that far in the future. In order for buzz to travel 4 years in the future, he would have to be going at light speed for 4 years, which means he also would have traveled a distance of 4 light years (even though it looks like he just goes around their local star which at most would be a few light minutes away). And second, they should have known about this before the test because they've all been traveling this way for who knows how long. The same thing should have happened to the entire colony on their voyage, it makes absolutely no sense for them to just be learning about time dilation now.
They also have the concept of time dilation wrong, as the difference comes from the experienced time by the thing going at light speed, not the time around it. The speed of light is constant. The light we see is the moment in time from x years ago that traveled the same x light years to get to us. The only dilation that occurs here is the *perceived* time passed by the thing traveling at light speed. So instead of the experienced 4 minutes like earlier trips by buzz, it might be seconds or an instant to buzz instead once he finally hits light speed. But it would take the same or less amount of time for the people on the planet, 4 years or less. It wouldn't take longer, especially not a multiple factored longer time. Otherwise, Disney is arguing a plane would get to a destination slower than a car because the plane goes faster.
I don't understand why an FTL drive that presumably ignores relativity when it's going over lightspeed suddenly follows relativity when below lightspeed.
@@ReddwarfIV They never explain it, and like the previous comment brought up the time dilation _somehow_ gets even worse when buzz made the same trip at hyper speed. So I can only assume it was never ignoring relativity, the entire crew of the ship experienced time dilation, and now that they've traveled millions of light years from earth everyone and everything they knew and loved back home is long dead.
It's such a stupid time travel BS that comes out of nowhere. Sonic 2006's time travel has less holes than Lightyear's and that's a rushed game with a wonky JP to English script. 2006 ran with the nonsense and have some good qualities despite the problem it has. This film tries to act it's a more sophisticated BLOSC with proper science involved but it's not internally consistent and uninteresting which for a film about Buzz Lightyear is a sin. Lightyear should be a Flash Gordon and Star Wars space opera adventue with a touch of Pixar magic. Not whatever this one is.
Lightyear was so unnecessary!! We had Buzz Lightyear Star Command. Which was way better. So here's my theory: The Star Command cartoon was the show that the toy was based off which Andy watched. There was a movie explaining Buzz's origins, then many years later when Andy grew up they made a live action reboot/sequel which Andy thought was so bad it was good. And that film was Lightyear.
also apparently in the Toy Story universe the company who made this movie decided to sell a Buzz Lightyear toy in the suit he wore for the last 20 seconds of the movie (built-in shooter and jetpack wings) rather that the suit he's had on for the majority of the movie
I was so annoyed that he chose his friends as his team in the end. I mean I get it. He just went on a huge adventure with them but they have 0 skill. At least take 4 qualified experts from the platoon of professional soldiers and put each of his rookie friends through a boot camp training alongside them and then they can have 2 teams. 1 highly skilled pro team for dangerous missions and then the ragtag friend team for simple missions like gathering info or whatever
Lightyear: This is the movie Andy saw as a kid and made him want the Buzz Lightyear toy. Toy Story: Buzz talks about combating Evil Emperor Zurg, but the Zurg we saw in Lightyear was not an emperor at all. He didn't talk about ruling the galaxy, he wanted to go back in time to undo his mistakes.
The best part is this "canon" movie, not only made kids crazy with the Buzz toy, but remember the Second Buzz with the belt? That's totally something that happens with sequel movie toys! So more likely it was such an obvious fenomenon with toys flying from the toy aisle like Barbie said that it got a sequel movie! While IRL Lightyear was such a failure it not only might be Pixar's worst financial disaster in history but also cancelled not only 2 movies from it's trilogy but also a Woody spin-off. And with the sequel dead it breaks the canon so it's actually non-canon in the Toy Story universe at all.
There's also some thing I would criticize about the logistics of this being a film Andy saw in universe, like the stuff regarding the merchandise. The Space Ranger suit represented with the Toy, posters, blankets, etc, is only seen at the very end of the movie where it never sees action. Which means that most of the play feature gimmicks the Toy possesses are never seen in the movie. The narrative bio on the back of the cardboard ship (and believed as truth by Andy's Buzz himself) is inaccurate, and Sox the cat clearly wasn't included as part of the merchandise. It's obvious that Sox was merchandise bait with a quantifiable degree of effectiveness, but in Al's Toy Barn there wasn't a single Sox toy in the entire Aisle dedicated to Buzz Lightyear?
Gonna disagree, Allen's voice sounds like the person you hire to do a voice-alike FOR a toy. Which makes sense as Toy Story leans into the cartoony nature of its characters. Especially the first movie with its primitive CGI.
@@Bustermachine Sure but Toy Story itself contradicts that. Woody has the same voice as the one in “Woody’s roundup” from Toy Story 2. Then again, you could say that Woody is a toy from the 50s while Buzz is from the 90s so they are made differently. Like sure, toys aren’t as faithful to their products, but it’s weird that this film birthed the toy Buzz Lightyear. Like nothing about Buzz is accurate to anything in this movie. Especially since kids films like Lightyear during the time this film premiered in the Toy Story universe were non-existent. The 90s got more edgy in the later years and that was the transition into the 2000s. To me, it just feels weird for Buzz to not be voiced by Tim Allen
It's like Pixar just have this quota now about having each movie be "serious" and like depressing as shit so everyone would think how deep it is. And then they decided to make action movie. And they couldn't decide whether they want to meet the quota or make a food film. So they settled on... Something. Like honestly all I did hear about this movie is either, as you say, toy story refences or some lgbt talks And then noone knew it was even released
The whole thing with his friend dying just makes it feel like UP. Cause when you think of UP you think of the first section of the movie and nothing else. I feel like they want to replicate that
14:35 They did say that the faster he'd go, the further away he would travel in the future. Which means that with the successful jump he traveled in a much faster rate and passed 22 years, instead of only 4 where he travelled with a slower velocity.
I agreed with all his points despite thinking Lightyear was good and fun but that point pissed me off when he mentioned it because he specifically pointed it out before too
@@gabrieltorres6633 time dilation as i understand it is that for the person traveling that fast time would be slower and thus the trip would feel quicker. The distance traveled is still the same. The movie shows him traveling close to the star the planet orbits around which may be around 8 light minutes away if we use Earth's distance as a reference. so it reality the trip would take thirty minutes or less if he is traveling at or near the speed of light. That much time should have passed for everyone else, just 30 minutes Time dilation could play into this scenario but with the distance involved you would not notice. Becuase speed is distance over time, he is traveling the same distance over a quicker time in last run so he should return to earth much quicker than his previous runs. The movie is not accurate to relativity. In order for it to be accurate his round trip should be 20 lightyears in distance.
The whole time travel thing with Buzz and found an abandoned ship and came back and released that there's another buzz still confused me and I hate how they made Zerg to be buzz from the future and not his father.
Wait, if they were gonna reference quotes from the original toy story, why didn't they reference the quotes from the toys voice box? The ones that are actually prerecorded and are supposed to directly reference the movies source material??
If this was just some sci-fi movie, wouldn’t be bothered that much. But as a Buzz Lightyear movie? It should have the fantastical adventure qualities of Flash Gordon, Star Wars and Buck Rogers. An adventure you think of when picturing Buzz Lightyear.
I will admit that they likely grossly misinturprated Special Relitivity. The exact oposite would happen if he moved that fast. Also at HALF THE SPEED OF LIGHT he would have been back in 32 minutes for them, not 22 years. (Assuming the sun he slingshot off of is as far as our sun is from earth) That said I thought it was a fun movie that I enjoyed as my Expectations for Disney Movies nowadays are basically rock bottom.
@@cajunking5987 To be honest, lots of specialists in their fields are consulted and then their advice doesn't wind up getting used in movies. James Cameron famously hired a linguist for Avatar and had the star system simulated to get Pandora's sky right. The sky stuff was used, but much of the language and especially the musical compositions were discarded for being too alien.
Exactly! With how relitivity works, time for buzz would get exponentially quicker than his trips would be for everyone else. Taking 32 minutes at 1/2 the speed of light for instance, that might feel closer to 25 minutes for the person inside the ship, meanwhile if he was travel at the speed of light his trip would take 16 minutes for everyone on earth, but it would only feel like 5 minutes for him, a disproportionately larger difference.
8:40 But it IS true and sientifically proven that the closer to speed of light you get, the slower time goes to you. So the rest of the world is going faster than you
I still think they shouldn’t have confirmed that this is the exact movie that Andy watched as kid. They should’ve just implied it and let the audience have their own headcanons. Because I think it makes way more sense if the movie that Andy saw is actually “Buzz Lightyear of Star Command: The Movie”, and then “Lightyear” is a modern reboot of that movie/show, because in-universe the sales of Buzz Lightyear toys started to go down after Toy Story 4 and they thought that making a new movie would get kids interested in the toys again.
Ironically from what I've heard of Pixar's opinion on the Buzz Lightyear cartoon, the Lightyear movie probably would've been better off with only Disney's input. ... maybe.
It really is like they had a really good idea for a movie, with lots of fun characters but then some executive came in and said "You gotta put Taika in it"
What could make sense to me out of Lightyear is if it revealed at the very end of the movie is it would then suddenly cut to a theater auditorium where a young Andy was watching it this whole time. Thus giving the impression that Andy was with us this whole time watching every scene play out. So I'm also assuming this movie in the Toy Story universe released in 1995.
I also love how of all the things that were different in the future that Buzz finds out thats amazing is that people now eat sandwiches with the bread on the inside instead of the outside......... "You can't be serious." Was the one thought I had. We are supposedly supposed to be following the amazing origin story of Buzz Lightyear, a world where he has innovative technology like food that heats itself, and the cleverest thing they could think of is having a sandwich inside out????? Realistically(since that's what this movie was trying to be anyway) that would make a mess and crumble just trying to eat it.
14:54 The mechanic is that faster travel produces a greater time dilation effect. For the first times, he only got to about 80% hyperspeed, creating the 1min to 1year ratio. Full hyperspeed, which was the goal, has a different one.
Still doesn’t make sense because a *successful* run was stated to take 4 minutes. It makes no sense that they wouldn’t know about drastic time dilation or be so off in their estimates when this has been their primary mode of space travel for years.
I love your comedic timing and couldn't wait to hear your thoughts on this movie!! It is pretty funny how the main way they advertised this movie was by saying, "Andy loved this movie!................And you should too........It has Buzz Lightyear!" LOL.
I actually came up with a FAR more better story for Lightyear than Pixar themselves, all while using the cast from the original Cartoon show. and made it so that this is the quintessential reboot movie, adult andy would go and take his family to watch. to summarize: _Buzz (in his ranger suit) goes off course from his test flight and crashes on a distant planet, in Zurg Territory. he meets a resistance soldier who is actualy Mira Nova, trying to free her people, but warns Buzz if they find out his spaceship came from outside Zurg space, they'll track down it's flight path and invade his home, which Zurg's drones essentially do. now it's a space race/ space road trip back to his base before Emperor zurg does with his armada. they meet more freaky aliens and planets along the way, meet booster, the Little Green Men (LGMs) who fix Buzz's ship and builds XR for him to aid on his mission, and make it back to star command, only to find Zurg's invasion has already begun. they sneak in, his new allies don ranger suits to fight back and send zurg stranded in the middle of space. and the story ends with word of zurg being defeated by Buzz and his crew spreading across the galaxy and unite to form the galactic alliance in case zurg ever returned._
But hes also kind of a get out of jail free card in the film too because HE JUST SO HAPPENS to have any tool necessary to get them out of any situation. Sox basically becomes a problem himself
@@Thomasmemoryscentral I think his sheer amount of ridiculous technology and intellect is why they wouldn’t let Buzz keep him, he’s two weapons away from being an absolute force of destruction.
The thing that got me about this being "The movie Andy saw in 1995" is that the movie says this at the very beginning before anything happens. So this isn't just a marketing scheme. It's cannon that THIS film exists in the Toy Story universe. So it makes everything about the movie make no sense to me. Why does Buzz the toy look, sound and act completely different from his film counterpart? You'd think he'd share some qualities with the film version. Why is the backstory on the back of his box different from the film? Why doesn't he have the energy blade they use in this film? Why does Zurg the toy claim he's Buzz's father when they're the same person? I could at the very least say this film was a Buzz Lightyear reboot but the film tells me that it exists in Toy Story cannon so it leads me to wondering these things. On top the flaws this film has on it's own divorced from outside cannon, these problems with contradicting the cannon kept amassing and it ruined any enjoyment I might of had watching this film.
My head cannon is that this movie inspired the star command cartoon and that’s what Andy fell in love with & that’s what the toy story buzz is based on
Pros of this movie: Sox is the best and funniest character Animation is stellar Soundtrack slaps Action scenes are kinda cool Cons of this movie: Horrible slow voice casting Boring characters Lame story and message Shitty villain Shitty heroes Terrible premise Unconnected continuity Too many in your face references God awful jokes unless Sox made them Overall: What the f*ck Pixar after some great gems like Soul, Luca, Turning Red, etc, movies that I hoped meant the return of Pixar’s former greatness and your return to the theatre is this piece of shit.
Honestly I like to think Lightyear would be one of those movies that were way better as a kid which is why it was Andy’s favorite because you have to remember when Andy watched this he would be in like 1st grade so I think it makes sense
@@eatatjoes6751 That's what's annoying me the most about this movie. My headcannon is that this came out in 1995 and Andy saw it and Star Command came out shortly afterwards as a spin off and he got the toy of that Buzz because it was more fun looking. That's the only way I could see this movie making sense but Andy would have definitely preferred Star Command over this. The ironic thing is that Disney likes to pretend that Star Command doesn't exist anymore though.
I always thought the reason he jumped 22 years after the successful hyperspeed test was because actual hyperspeed is like 100x faster than the failed hyperspeeds. So instead of going 1 year into the future per minute he went 1 year per second. So like 22 seconds of hyperspeed is 22 years. But that's just my guess as to why the gap was so different~
This fact cannot be stated enough this is NOT A 90s kids movie. This is a modern “subversive” “kids” movie actually aimed for Twitter users. If they wouldn’t have marketed it as “a movie Andy saw” it would’ve been fine
When I was younger when watching movies, I constantly asked my parents what was happening. As I got older, I did this less and understood the movies I would watch. It's NOT a good sign if I asked a LOT of questions when watching this movie.
Izzy said they played stealth mode, not they used stealth mode to play hide and seek. A slight difference that changes the meaning, which explains why she doesn’t know about the timer.
When I watched it I thought I was watching an intro to a story and then the movie ended. I was like… there’s no story line, where’s the characters growth, it just felt like an empty story
It feels like the marketing department and the actual movie had two different ideas about where to go. Like everyone kept saying, *this should have been a reboot.* Or, hear me out - a movie about the making of the toyline! Hell, the promo art itself could have been a movie! Or, maybe, they already live in space - Star Command is an offshoot of some alien space resort thing ala Wall-E - and the movie could have been about going around and exploring the cosmos.
1:40 That's like how all of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movies only say "Cowabunga" once in every movie and in the newest one Mikey said it in slow motion.
The time travel in this movie made no sense. jumping 4 years into the future after each trip makes no sense. If you travel close to lightspeed according to the theory of relativity your time slows down, so unless buzz traveled a 4 lightyear round trip he would have been back within the day because from what is shown he travels close to the nearest star if we use Earth as a reference for safe distance that would be 8 light minutes away. we can make that number to even 30 light minutes away and even if he was traveling at half light speed he still would have returned the same day.
I didn’t even know we knew more about buzz, but now that I hear that there was more about buzz outside the toy story movies, and know how much it could’ve been better, I see how it couldve been better.
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@Bobatimeforeveryone! no
@Bobatimeforeveryone! it’s just his opinion
@Bobatimeforeveryone! hes not hating, hes just sharing his opinion
Random person: show me a buzz lightyear movie with out showing a buzz light year movie. Pixar and disney: shows buzz light year movie. Me: Curse you random person!!!
I said this before: Lightyear is not the movie Andy saw as a kid. Lightyear is the terrible, gritty, unnecessary reboot done 25 years later that Andy saw as an adult with his fiancé and afterwards shrugged and said, "eh, I like the original better."
hope you dont mind if i just steal that, this is my new headcanon now
This... this is my new headcanon 👏😌
This makes more sense. Andy would be like: "wokeness ruined my favorite childhood movie!"
I was thinking the same thing
This is my head canon now.
This movie is a shining example of “Years of academy training WASTED!”
But the hat looked good, the hat looked good!
@@justinwalker2460 The Apirn is a bit much
@@justinwalker2460 The Apirn is a bit much
And also a perfect example of "NO!!! It's all gone... All of it's gone,bye bye,woohoo,see ya!"
Lightyear feels like a sequel
To a movie that doesnt exist
Nah it feels like a reboot of an actual Buzz film
Indeed
I was just thinking that. It really does.
I think everyone is probably right. I feel like the most genius part of this movie is how they made us all share the same thought about this.
true
Andy's mom: "You can only bring one toy to Pizza Planet"
also Andy's mom: "Sure you can bring ALL of your toys to see "Lightyear" in the theater with you!"
“-Even the toys you DONT HAVE yet!”
@@battybuddy guess Andy unlocked time travel.
@@mrlaz9011 but did he try to kill himself in the past, like Buzz did?
@@battybuddy Yes, and Sid is actually old andy who traveled back in time to destroy buzz to prevent this movie from existing. He looked like a goblin because of the adverse effects of time traveling to the past.
@@mrlaz9011 i hate how much this makes sense
It's so weird how Disney doesn't acknowledge the Lightyear TV show. They completely ignored it to make this movie and they don't even have it on Disney+
Because it wasn’t their property? The movie is what the toy itself was based off of..
@@sirensong237 ...well, then the show realized the potential of the character more than the movie!
Completely forgot how much i loved that shit as a child
@@arcanefury3666 I forgot about it too! It was great lol
I'm pretty sure it's because of the deal with Pixar.
Disney rolled the show out without taking the Toy Story creator's input or something like that.
Pixar just did not like the cartoon.
"the better Pixar's animation gets the shittier their writing become?" YES. THANK YOU. IDGAF if your animation looks realistic now Pixar, it was never about that. MAKE ME CRY AGAIN.
Soul was the last Pixar movie to make me cry.
@@johnkingbad
THANK YOUU
SOUL IS SO UNDERRATED 😭
@@johnkingbad to me it was Coco
Lol. They’re STILL making us cry, just not in the same way.
@@Pawning the ending song that plays in the credits is my second favorite Pixar vocal song
If Sox was such an important character how come Andy never once tried to get a Sox toy? Or why did Toy Buzz never tried to look for him back in the first movie?
Exactly! It felt like they’ve thrown in Sox without considering about if Andy would like him. I bet the writers even forgot about Andy even existing entirely while writing!
Maybe because he didn’t have a Sox then… he still acted like the first portion’s Buzz.. BEFORE the light speed jump. Plus it was the 90s. You barely got the chance to get even one action figure rather than get buzz AND sox in one shot.
The only way to fix this continuity mess, is to come to the conclusion that Lightyear is a shitty 2020s reboot movie of Buzz of Star Command in the Toy Story Universe.
@@bigmaxethanschannel1428 pretty sure it's the other way around where movie came first then made a cartoon adaptation.
@@victor2641 Buzz Lightyear of Star Command was a movie first.
"HOW IS THIS ANDY'S FAVORITE MOVIE THIS IS DEPRESSING AS SHIT" I CAN'T 😭😭😭
And if he was 10 years old why he wanted a Buzz toy, and not a Sox toy
Btw I'm 20 and i ALSO prefer Sox over Buzz
That was what I thought when I was watching it
Pixar basically made the Martian with extra steps and less character depth
Interstellar not Martian
Yup it’s very Interstellar. With all of these time warping stuff.
@@jeromealday614 Except interstellar has exploring multiple planets, this and the Martian were stuck on one.
And less FUN. The Martian was hilarious and more inspirational.
The problem with this movie is, that it’s to “dark” and modern to be a 90s children movie. The 90s were a time that most children movies(there are exceptions, but those aren’t as popular) were a lighthearted and fun experience for the whole family. This movie is neither.
Yeah, the tone of this is more in line with a PG-13 Space movie of that area which I'm sure a handful of kids did like back then but it wasn't the type of thing a lot of young kids would go crazy for.
Reminded me of Lost In Space.
The 90s was missing dark childrens shows like they had in the 70s and 80s if you ask me. At least I cant think of any.
not very many people were pregnant and gay together in the nineties
90's wasn't Woke, That's it.
If Star Command was capable of making amazing robotic intelligence like Sox, why didn't they just used him to test the crystal for hyperspeed rather than a human like Buzz?
Exactly! Why does a therapy AI cat have the capability to successfully calculate a fuel mixture?
@@Zarastro54 To be fair it took him, like, half a century.
uggggghhhhh reasons!
I was SO SURE the rookie was going to be Zurg, yet somehow that felt like a better story than what Pixar decided 💀
I thought the cat was the villain
Not so sure
Same
Rookie was such a random and useless character
@@RandomZayMK8 Feather...feather...
I think what happened was that the creators of Pixar actually hated the TV show and wanted to make something more serious because that's what Pixar does. And then Disney came ruined it even more.
Yeah, I actually read somewhere that Pixar doesn't like being associated with the TV show so that's probably why. But the show's characters were way more fun and interesting than the ones in the movie, and I'm pretty sure if Pixar can make us cry about a pink imaginary elephant, they can 100% find a way to make those characters taken seriously
@@gelato9630 I really wish they'd get over that. If they can release a critical bomb that's financially successful in Cars 2, surely they can acknowledge a silly early 2000's cartoon centered around Buzz and a bunch of new ocs
@@Thomasmemoryscentral unpopular opinion, I liked Cars 2, it was a bad movie, but I didn’t care, I love Mater as a character.
@@gelato9630 thats so weird, because most of the characters in the movie act like half assed versions of the ones in the series
The movie felt too modern for a movie that was supposed to be in the 90s that inspired a kid. Felt too much like Interstellar or Annihilation. Why not go with something colorful and fun like The Jetsons, The Fifth Element, Beyond Good and Evil, and the Ratchet and Clank games.
funny you say that, Ratchet and Clank is a way better space action adventure series then this movie, even the worst games in the series are better then this
@@leoultimaupgraded9914 yeah. And Ratchet and Clank had fun colorful environments making players excited to see where we will visit next.
Doesn't make sense for this to be the movie that Andy watched and loved so much he wanted a toy from it. Lightyear doesn't even feel like a good movie for kids, it's too dark and too convoluted.
@@cristela4034 plus the iconic suit looks so out of place here in this realistic grittier story.
I mean it references parallel timelines which weren't even thought of until the past 10 years
So why do the Toy Story movies refer to Zurg as "Evil Emperor Zurg" when in the movie he's not an emperor of anything?
He’s the emperor of being a shit villain OOOOOHHHHH!
He kinda is. He make his own empire. Same with the toy story lore, he only commands an army of robots.
@@sirensong237 isn't he in charge of those bug aliens in the show?
@@DJDerpyify maybe?? I don’t remember that… that’s on me…
In the 2000's show he was an Emporer. And relished be evil. And liked being called evil.
I feel like Lightyear COULD have worked with the set-up they were going for.
Like, what if they WEREN'T stranded on an alien planet, but Buzz was instead a test pilot meant to be testing their hyperspace travel. We get to see him go through the academy and finally get chosen to fly the ship and when he does, he's accidentally launched off course far from home. He then ends up having a planet-hopping adventure in an attempt to get home all while being chased down by Zerg who wants his hyperspace crystal in order to allow his robot troops quicker access to planets all over the galaxy. He meets a bunch of fun, alien friends, maybe even still has Sox as a kind of utility cat robot thing. It allows him to actually BE a SPACE RANGER while also being inexperienced and getting to grow with his adventures and new friends. They finally get back to earth with Zerg hot on their tail because Buzz believes that they have the military capabilities that MIGHT almost level the playing field.
(They can do the time-travel reveal if they really want to. Maybe he gets to Earth and thinks he's in the clear only to find that he's been gone for YEARS and was presumed dead with a memorial plaque or something in his honor at the academy. It's not super important to the story, I guess, unless you just want that grit.)
Zerg arrives, they have a massive planet-side air battle while the mothership is in the upper atmosphere, Buzz gets on board and with the help of his alien space buddies, loads the Hyperspace crystal onto Zerg's ship and rigs it to explode on arrival. They send Zerg off FAR AWAY and then the crystal explodes, nearly EVICERATING Zerg's mothership, but he survives and vows revenge classic Saturday-Morning-Cartoon style which leaves room for Zerg to be a constant presence in Buzz's story justify video games in the Toy Story universe. Buzz officially becomes a full-fledged space ranger along with his friends and they take to space to solve more intergalactic problems.
The End.
This is SO MUCH betterthan the actual movie... like yeah its cliche but if it's a movie made solely for selling toys then its bound to be as corny as possible, but thats what makes them fun
@@dali3839 I think it's okay for movies to be corny and cliche sometimes. Those types of films can often be people's favorites.
You should've been the director of Lightyear instead! This is a hundred times better than the movie itself!
YES!!!!! That's what this Buzz movie needed....corny cheesy scifi excitement! Something to grip the audience, adults and kids alike!
Better to have a corny and cliche movie than a dark and depressing one.
And it would be a better reason for why andy wanted a buzz lightyear figurine.
It’s all the hell is Zurg’s origin is never consistent:
In Toy Story 2 it was confirmed that Zurg was Buzz’s father.
In the cartoon Zurg was seemingly just a robot although there was a single joke where he claimed to be his father, it was immediately revealed that he was lying.
And we all know how this movie adapted his story.
MYTHOLOGY!
Or lightyear did his mom
@@Rounbug oh god
In Toy Story, lightyear is a franchise showing Zurg in the game at the start of 2 as a force to be reckoned with, showing no humor and running a power base threatening universe. A Darth Vader/emperor character sort to speak.
The cartoon is playing cartoon logic, Zurg is a mustache villain, there are other villains who are more intelligent and threat, NOST4R2, And evil emperor buzz Lightyear from alternate universe.
Both shows has Zurg as the ultimate Evil to threaten Buzz Ultimate Good. The cartoon show Zurg is so evil, he can turn a good orb into evil which Buzz was only one to undo it with him being purely good.
The movie turns the two conflicts as one doing whatever it takes vs. not going overboard on doing whatever it takes.
Zurg is Lightyear’s father in the Buzz Lightyear video game in the actual Toy Story universe, so that game must’ve been a very loose adaptation of the movie Andy watched. Otherwise, the game contradicts the movie, making the Zurg plot twist even more convoluted.
Don’t forget, Zurg tries to kill Buzz… so his future self tried to kill his past self…
Pretty sure even Neo Cortex figured out “I CANT kill HIM, cause that would kill ME!”
I like to think it’s a reboot of the original cartoon Andy watched
@@Ethan_488 I like to think it was the “ live action” lion king that wasn’t really live action.
@@battybuddy an unnecessary reboot done in live action with new actors that just can’t get the same feel as the original. Replacing Tim Allen with the actor Chris Evans. And re working the story to fit a narrative it shouldn’t have to.
@@Ethan_488 or like with ghost buster movie came first then cartoon.
Not sure if anyones mentioned this, but the promo art itself is so contrived (not just with the alien toys)
If Andy brought Woody, Rex and the others with him to see Lightyear, wouldn't they have recognised toy buzz in the first toy story film?? I dunno man this film is fine on its own but as a diehard toy story fan it annoys me.
It's just more convoluted mumbo jumbo to trick you
HEY! Stop putting more thoughts into this than the writers ever did!
That's why it's just promo art not canon
No… because you can go to the theaters more than once. I’m sorry you didn’t know that
@@cajunking5987 Are you suggesting that Andy has already seen Lightyear a few times and that he brought all the toys to the movie after his birthday when he got the Buzz toy AND didn't bring Buzz to the theater? I hope not.
If you watch the first Toy Story movie, the montage of Andy slowly replacing his cowboy stuff with space ranger stuff show a trend of Buzz being a HUGE recruiter for space rangers, which completely contradicts his character here since he refuses to work with rookies AND in the end he rejects OTHER qualified applicants just to be with his friends.
Ehhhh that doesn't really count though. Even in real life, a lot of merchandise that features popular characters doesn't match what the characters are actually like.
@@jpz2009 Gonna agree with this.
Also, it would be very in character for a 90's movie to 'Toyify' everything regardless of how appropriate or not.
It’s even funnier cause Buzz would sometimes work alone in the cartoon, but it wasn’t cause he hated rookies, it was because he didn’t want people to idk DIE. He literally cares about the safety of new recruits and just people in general
I can’t believe in Andy’s universe, Interstellar (2014) stole their plot twist from Lightyear (1995) 🙈 *how could they?!?!*
If lightyear had zurg be buzz' s father
I can't believe in Andy's universe
(1995)stole the plot twist from empire strikes back
(1980)how could they!
@@t-7777 yeah, there was no way they could make Zurg be Buzz’s dad because then it would literally just be a direct ripoff of Star Wars. I don’t know why people expect everything the toys said to be canon in this movie
@@MiloMurphysLaw well they should have made it his father so it would be emotional seeing a father and son fight and also they released it on fathers day and we didn't expect any i am your father also lizzys grandma doesn't have a husband
So is Disney making fun of dad's on fathers day saying that nobody has a father and women can make kids without a husband Disney is having a hard time this year this includes marvel movies and tv shows at least other movies that aren't Disney are doing good and every live action Disney movie didn't turn out great as the animated was
@@MiloMurphysLaw Well, if for example, it was a Luke Skywalker toy and it was based on "Star Wars: A New Hope", don't you think everything it said would not only be lines from the movie but also in Hammil's voice? I'm not a fan of this stuff but it sounds to me like the bad guy being Lightyear's father was SUPPOSED to be a parody of "Star Wars" in the first place so why not lean into that? Why not do a Lightyear movie that feels like the classic "Star Wars" movies?
Still, given Disney's "Star Wars" track record they probably thought they did.
@@t-7777 Simple. Zurg went back in time and got him some thus fathering himself. Plot twist: Buzz IS Buzz’s father! Genius!
Isn't the story of _Lightyear_ just the basic plot of _Up_ except in a science fiction setting?
*The main protagonist is adamant on completing a mission to honor his deceased best friend:*
Carl Fredrickson wants to fly to Paradise Falls to honor his late wife Ellie.
Buzz wants to find a way off the planet using light speed to honor his longtime comrade Alisha Hawthorne who passed away during his last hyperspace test run.
*His stubbornness and lack of closure prevents him from moving on:*
Carl assaults a construction worker for damaging his and Ellie's mailbox and is deemed a public menace in a court of law. He is later ordered to be sent to a nursing home for the elderly after a lawsuit.
Buzz refuses to forgo his mission and relinquish his robotic cat companion Sox for decommissioning due to him having recently discovered a stable formula of crystallic fuel for hyperspace. This is also due to a new shift in command deciding to cancel any and all hyperspace test flights.
*He defies authority to settle unfinished business:*
Carl fashions his house into an aircraft using thousands of helium balloons.
Buzz steals a spacecraft and jumps ahead decades into the future.
*He reluctantly teams up with a band of misfits (which he later grows to care for) to achieve his goal:*
A boy scout Russell, a rare and exotic bird named Kevin and a "talking" dog named Dug for Carl.
Alisha's granddaughter Izzy, Buzz's personal companion Sox, paroled convict Darby, and clumsy recruit Mo for Buzz.
*His determination to achieve his goal puts him at odds with the others:*
Carl, being a cantankerous old man who still hasn't overcome his grief, gives up Kevin to protect his house despite promising Russell earlier that he wouldn't do such a thing.
Buzz is initially frustrated by the group's lack of experience and training. He becomes especially despondent when Izzy accidentally discards the fusion energy when trying to escape Zurg's robotic minions, failing their objective and potentially foiling any chance of Buzz returning to the past.
*He becomes disillusioned by another version of himself:*
Carl meets his childhood idol Charles Muntz only to learn of the latter's murderous obsession with wanting to capture Kevin (Charles being the embodiment of Carl's lack of closure and refusal to move on from his past).
Buzz meets his future self under the guise of Zurg who was obsessed with trying to find a way to travel backwards in time.
*He winds up abandoning the initial mission in the end when he realizes what's most important in life:*
Carl realizes that Ellie cherished her married life as an adventure all on its own and wanted Carl to have more.
Buzz realizes that Alisha was happy with her life and that Izzy and her friends would probably never even exist if he chose to travel back in time like he initially wanted.
*By the end of the movie, he remains content in his current place and starts new relationships with young faces while never forgetting the one he lost and holds dear to his heart:*
Carl becomes a surrogate grandfather figure to Russell, doing all the activities that the boy and his father used to do.
Buzz embraces his new team and heads off on the next mission.
The similarities are so obscenely apparent it's not even funny.
They recycled a plot from a film they released in 2009 to close off the 2000s and wrote an entire film using practically all the same spots in an film for the early 2020s.
Geez, one clearly did better
Up is the better film. And not just the first 10 minutes. I enjoyed the entire movie. The only part I cried at was the part where Carl is talking with the Boy Scout and realizes that he doesn’t have anyone to do “father/son activities” with. That awkward silence just gets me.
It's Lego Movie 2.
Those story beats aren't that unique though and tons of movies have similar plot points without being the same movie. What makes a movie special isn't the story itself but how that story is told
@@char1211 Same idea, different execution....ironically, they butchered the more recent movie.
My biggest problem was that there's no worldbuilding. We know nothing about the state of humanity/galactic civilization outside this planet. We don't even know what the Turnip's original mission was.
We don't know much about Star Command. We don't know ANYTHING about the Galactic Alliance. When it's namedropped at the end, it feels out of place, because the movie completely failed to establish the wider setting. It even forgets about Zurg being an Emperor!
Zurg was supposed to be Buzz’s FATHER. I have a theory they didn’t use the father trope because it would be kind of copying from Star Wars but this is PIXAR A DISNEY OWNED COMPANY WHICH ALSO OWNS EVERYTHING STAR WARS RELATED SO THERE WAS NO EXCUSE WHATSOEVER!
Yes, worldbuilding shelved, and instead we're shown that children are born from two women.
The most unbelievable part about this movie is that it's supposed to come out in 1995.
Yeah, saying that this movie is what inspired Andy to get a Buzz Lightyear toy is just stupid from every aspect. If you ask me, he got the idea of getting one from the Al's Toy Barn commercial! Not...this!
Could u imagine Toy Story if Andy actually played with Buzz the way this in movie-movie portrayed him, just sat there with Buzz whispering out some depressing lines instead of….. u know….. playing with him like a toy
Also, if this was actually the movie that Andy watched, I feel like Sox would come with the Buzz toy as an accessory. But he doesn’t. Because he never existed and this movie makes no sense
Audiences: "Cars 2 is the worst Pixar movie ever!"
*Lightyear comes along*
Me: ...you were sayin'?
I watched this movie on a plane a while back and remember thinking that there was basically not a single time things went to plan. Which sure, is more realistic, but I was practical begging for them to "just let this be a normal spacetrip" and the movie kept responding with "With the Buzz? No way aaawww cruising down on the planet, you're stressed and feeling bad, next thing that you know you're seeing, stupid time paradox in the neighborhood!" and it drove me insane.
One correction to your video: It was actually Pixar's decision to decanonize the Buzz Lightyear TV show. This is because back in the early 2000s, before Disney bought Pixar, Disney owned the rights to Toy Story and decided to make the Buzz Lightyear of Star Command cartoon as a spinoff without Pixar's input or consent which made Pixar absolutely despise it. They were only told to animate part of the intro, but nothing else about the production.
Ironic since the show is light years better than this self serious slog.
:(
Always lovely when a creator hates a good work just because they didn't make it themselves
@@ReddwarfIV I think they were just disappointed because they weren’t a part of it. That disappointment probably evolved into jealousy and then into full-on resentment.
@@UniqueHandles Or y'know, losing creative control and having a bunch of people demand you make a thing that was never your creative intent can kind of suck.
People can dislike things for wholly valid and well thought out reasons.
The rookie with the 3-minute screentime was voiced by Bill Hader too 😂 The audacity to give his splotlight to Taika
Bro his character made me wanna die
8:15 the explanation always bothered me personally cause like.
It's actually based on a real phenomenon known as time dilation, where as an object's speed through space approaches the speed of light, it's speed through time approaches 0, and time for everything else speeds up relative to that object.
The problem with this explanation in the movie though is that first off, it doesn't actually make sense for him to travel that far in the future. In order for buzz to travel 4 years in the future, he would have to be going at light speed for 4 years, which means he also would have traveled a distance of 4 light years (even though it looks like he just goes around their local star which at most would be a few light minutes away). And second, they should have known about this before the test because they've all been traveling this way for who knows how long. The same thing should have happened to the entire colony on their voyage, it makes absolutely no sense for them to just be learning about time dilation now.
THANK YOU! It has been really bothering me that no one else has this up.
They also have the concept of time dilation wrong, as the difference comes from the experienced time by the thing going at light speed, not the time around it.
The speed of light is constant. The light we see is the moment in time from x years ago that traveled the same x light years to get to us. The only dilation that occurs here is the *perceived* time passed by the thing traveling at light speed. So instead of the experienced 4 minutes like earlier trips by buzz, it might be seconds or an instant to buzz instead once he finally hits light speed. But it would take the same or less amount of time for the people on the planet, 4 years or less. It wouldn't take longer, especially not a multiple factored longer time.
Otherwise, Disney is arguing a plane would get to a destination slower than a car because the plane goes faster.
I don't understand why an FTL drive that presumably ignores relativity when it's going over lightspeed suddenly follows relativity when below lightspeed.
Or did I misunderstand the movie and this is just the fuel they need to fly the big ship into space?
@@ReddwarfIV They never explain it, and like the previous comment brought up the time dilation _somehow_ gets even worse when buzz made the same trip at hyper speed. So I can only assume it was never ignoring relativity, the entire crew of the ship experienced time dilation, and now that they've traveled millions of light years from earth everyone and everything they knew and loved back home is long dead.
I love how the writers actually thought they did something clever with the Zurg twist.
Wrote themselves into a corner.
@Zaryal Ace Precisely, and deprived us of an actual Disney Villain who couldve been iconic.
It turns out he is the WORST twist villain in all of Disney.
Mother of mercy, it makes That-Was-His-Mistake and Mayor Sheep-dweeb more fleshed out.
@shadowtoad95 😂 not only was it a incoherent plot hole riddled mess, it ruined *both* Buzz and Zurgs characters.
It's such a stupid time travel BS that comes out of nowhere. Sonic 2006's time travel has less holes than Lightyear's and that's a rushed game with a wonky JP to English script.
2006 ran with the nonsense and have some good qualities despite the problem it has. This film tries to act it's a more sophisticated BLOSC with proper science involved but it's not internally consistent and uninteresting which for a film about Buzz Lightyear is a sin.
Lightyear should be a Flash Gordon and Star Wars space opera adventue with a touch of Pixar magic. Not whatever this one is.
Lightyear was so unnecessary!! We had Buzz Lightyear Star Command. Which was way better. So here's my theory:
The Star Command cartoon was the show that the toy was based off which Andy watched. There was a movie explaining Buzz's origins, then many years later when Andy grew up they made a live action reboot/sequel which Andy thought was so bad it was good. And that film was Lightyear.
This is the only correct coherent explanation.
also apparently in the Toy Story universe the company who made this movie decided to sell a Buzz Lightyear toy in the suit he wore for the last 20 seconds of the movie (built-in shooter and jetpack wings) rather that the suit he's had on for the majority of the movie
That makes perfect sense!😉
I was so annoyed that he chose his friends as his team in the end. I mean I get it. He just went on a huge adventure with them but they have 0 skill.
At least take 4 qualified experts from the platoon of professional soldiers and put each of his rookie friends through a boot camp training alongside them and then they can have 2 teams. 1 highly skilled pro team for dangerous missions and then the ragtag friend team for simple missions like gathering info or whatever
I would have chose for Mo to be f*cking kicked off. Bro is gonna end up causing a damn extinction level event by even attempting to touch something
@@silverbells24 true
Lightyear: This is the movie Andy saw as a kid and made him want the Buzz Lightyear toy.
Toy Story: Buzz talks about combating Evil Emperor Zurg, but the Zurg we saw in Lightyear was not an emperor at all. He didn't talk about ruling the galaxy, he wanted to go back in time to undo his mistakes.
19:17 he's got a point lmao was there just NO ONE in that giant ship???
The opening skit is fucking hilarious and too true
The best part is this "canon" movie, not only made kids crazy with the Buzz toy, but remember the Second Buzz with the belt? That's totally something that happens with sequel movie toys! So more likely it was such an obvious fenomenon with toys flying from the toy aisle like Barbie said that it got a sequel movie! While IRL Lightyear was such a failure it not only might be Pixar's worst financial disaster in history but also cancelled not only 2 movies from it's trilogy but also a Woody spin-off. And with the sequel dead it breaks the canon so it's actually non-canon in the Toy Story universe at all.
Im so fucking happy Pixar got half fired. SHOW SOME RESPECT 2 BLOSC, NIGGA!
There's also some thing I would criticize about the logistics of this being a film Andy saw in universe, like the stuff regarding the merchandise.
The Space Ranger suit represented with the Toy, posters, blankets, etc, is only seen at the very end of the movie where it never sees action. Which means that most of the play feature gimmicks the Toy possesses are never seen in the movie. The narrative bio on the back of the cardboard ship (and believed as truth by Andy's Buzz himself) is inaccurate, and Sox the cat clearly wasn't included as part of the merchandise. It's obvious that Sox was merchandise bait with a quantifiable degree of effectiveness, but in Al's Toy Barn there wasn't a single Sox toy in the entire Aisle dedicated to Buzz Lightyear?
It’s honestly so interesting to hear new movie Buzz’s voice versus Tim Allen’s buzz. Allen’s version sounds better 😅
Gonna disagree, Allen's voice sounds like the person you hire to do a voice-alike FOR a toy. Which makes sense as Toy Story leans into the cartoony nature of its characters. Especially the first movie with its primitive CGI.
Like or hate his voice, Tim Allen is still a true patriot fighting for human rights.
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Sure but Toy Story itself contradicts that. Woody has the same voice as the one in “Woody’s roundup” from Toy Story 2. Then again, you could say that Woody is a toy from the 50s while Buzz is from the 90s so they are made differently.
Like sure, toys aren’t as faithful to their products, but it’s weird that this film birthed the toy Buzz Lightyear. Like nothing about Buzz is accurate to anything in this movie. Especially since kids films like Lightyear during the time this film premiered in the Toy Story universe were non-existent. The 90s got more edgy in the later years and that was the transition into the 2000s.
To me, it just feels weird for Buzz to not be voiced by Tim Allen
From what I can tell, the reason Allen didn't reprise the role here is that he's a conservative and this movie is woke.
01:16 this is not going well *AT ALL* 😭😭😭😭
Missed you and your reviews welcome back! Now it's time to chill and watch this
Have fun! 🥳
@@beaniiebrian 19:25 They only showed you a few clips. Who's to say Buzz didn't defeat Zurg before he marched on the big suit?
It's like Pixar just have this quota now about having each movie be "serious" and like depressing as shit so everyone would think how deep it is. And then they decided to make action movie. And they couldn't decide whether they want to meet the quota or make a food film. So they settled on... Something. Like honestly all I did hear about this movie is either, as you say, toy story refences or some lgbt talks
And then noone knew it was even released
The whole thing with his friend dying just makes it feel like UP. Cause when you think of UP you think of the first section of the movie and nothing else. I feel like they want to replicate that
14:35 They did say that the faster he'd go, the further away he would travel in the future. Which means that with the successful jump he traveled in a much faster rate and passed 22 years, instead of only 4 where he travelled with a slower velocity.
I agreed with all his points despite thinking Lightyear was good and fun but that point pissed me off when he mentioned it because he specifically pointed it out before too
@@tiago5001 exactly, same for me
That may be true but it still makes no sense. How are you going faster taking the same trip and arriving on Earth much later?
@@antiloser-NFS time dilation
@@gabrieltorres6633 time dilation as i understand it is that for the person traveling that fast time would be slower and thus the trip would feel quicker. The distance traveled is still the same. The movie shows him traveling close to the star the planet orbits around which may be around 8 light minutes away if we use Earth's distance as a reference. so it reality the trip would take thirty minutes or less if he is traveling at or near the speed of light. That much time should have passed for everyone else, just 30 minutes
Time dilation could play into this scenario but with the distance involved you would not notice. Becuase speed is distance over time, he is traveling the same distance over a quicker time in last run so he should return to earth much quicker than his previous runs. The movie is not accurate to relativity.
In order for it to be accurate his round trip should be 20 lightyears in distance.
The whole time travel thing with Buzz and found an abandoned ship and came back and released that there's another buzz still confused me and I hate how they made Zerg to be buzz from the future and not his father.
beaniie's genuine frustration at 17:58 had me cackling lol
08:24 the way he said that took me out of things for a second lol. so sassy
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR HIM TO REVIEW THIS YES
Wait, if they were gonna reference quotes from the original toy story, why didn't they reference the quotes from the toys voice box? The ones that are actually prerecorded and are supposed to directly reference the movies source material??
They committed the ultimate sin. They made Buzz Lightyear lame.
They made the literal SPACE RANGER Lame.
Use your Karate Chop Action!
They made Captain America, Steve Rogers, and America's Ass lame.
If this was just some sci-fi movie, wouldn’t be bothered that much.
But as a Buzz Lightyear movie? It should have the fantastical adventure qualities of Flash Gordon, Star Wars and Buck Rogers. An adventure you think of when picturing Buzz Lightyear.
I legit thought the cat would be the main villain
5:29 I'm sorry but THIS LINE GOT ME DYING🤣
6 minutes into your video here and I'm laughing harder than I did throughout all of Lightyear lmao. You should make the next Movie for us!
Lightyear is such wasted potential man I swear. They could've easily made it like Star Wars but NOPE.
They kinda did. Given the amount of Star Wars references.
@@sirensong237 Even with Star Wars references, there were no aliens, or a space adventure. Which feels like wasted potential.
I will admit that they likely grossly misinturprated Special Relitivity. The exact oposite would happen if he moved that fast. Also at HALF THE SPEED OF LIGHT he would have been back in 32 minutes for them, not 22 years. (Assuming the sun he slingshot off of is as far as our sun is from earth)
That said I thought it was a fun movie that I enjoyed as my Expectations for Disney Movies nowadays are basically rock bottom.
Finally someone says it. THANK YOU
Didn’t they ask people who work at nasa? They said so in the documentary. And they were credited at the end…
@@cajunking5987 To be honest, lots of specialists in their fields are consulted and then their advice doesn't wind up getting used in movies.
James Cameron famously hired a linguist for Avatar and had the star system simulated to get Pandora's sky right. The sky stuff was used, but much of the language and especially the musical compositions were discarded for being too alien.
Exactly! With how relitivity works, time for buzz would get exponentially quicker than his trips would be for everyone else. Taking 32 minutes at 1/2 the speed of light for instance, that might feel closer to 25 minutes for the person inside the ship, meanwhile if he was travel at the speed of light his trip would take 16 minutes for everyone on earth, but it would only feel like 5 minutes for him, a disproportionately larger difference.
8:40 But it IS true and sientifically proven that the closer to speed of light you get, the slower time goes to you. So the rest of the world is going faster than you
I still think they shouldn’t have confirmed that this is the exact movie that Andy watched as kid. They should’ve just implied it and let the audience have their own headcanons. Because I think it makes way more sense if the movie that Andy saw is actually “Buzz Lightyear of Star Command: The Movie”, and then “Lightyear” is a modern reboot of that movie/show, because in-universe the sales of Buzz Lightyear toys started to go down after Toy Story 4 and they thought that making a new movie would get kids interested in the toys again.
Ironically from what I've heard of Pixar's opinion on the Buzz Lightyear cartoon, the Lightyear movie probably would've been better off with only Disney's input.
... maybe.
It really is like they had a really good idea for a movie, with lots of fun characters but then some executive came in and said "You gotta put Taika in it"
They did that with Key and Peele in Toy Story 4. At least that movie had a lighter tone than Lightyear.
I love the running joke of Pixar knowing that Disney is being stupid and yet having to go along with it in your intro sketches lol
What could make sense to me out of Lightyear is if it revealed at the very end of the movie is it would then suddenly cut to a theater auditorium where a young Andy was watching it this whole time. Thus giving the impression that Andy was with us this whole time watching every scene play out.
So I'm also assuming this movie in the Toy Story universe released in 1995.
Lightyear feels like the third movie in a trilogy for a Buzz Lightyear Trilogy
It would be far more humble for Andy to want the Buzz toy simply because of him being a toy; Not based off of some movie.
7:39 I love just how SHOCKED they look to hear that he wasn't good when he first showed up at school.
I also love how of all the things that were different in the future that Buzz finds out thats amazing is that people now eat sandwiches with the bread on the inside instead of the outside.........
"You can't be serious." Was the one thought I had.
We are supposedly supposed to be following the amazing origin story of Buzz Lightyear, a world where he has innovative technology like food that heats itself, and the cleverest thing they could think of is having a sandwich inside out????? Realistically(since that's what this movie was trying to be anyway) that would make a mess and crumble just trying to eat it.
14:54 The mechanic is that faster travel produces a greater time dilation effect. For the first times, he only got to about 80% hyperspeed, creating the 1min to 1year ratio. Full hyperspeed, which was the goal, has a different one.
Still doesn’t make sense because a *successful* run was stated to take 4 minutes. It makes no sense that they wouldn’t know about drastic time dilation or be so off in their estimates when this has been their primary mode of space travel for years.
I love your comedic timing and couldn't wait to hear your thoughts on this movie!!
It is pretty funny how the main way they advertised this movie was by saying, "Andy loved this movie!................And you should too........It has Buzz Lightyear!" LOL.
I actually came up with a FAR more better story for Lightyear than Pixar themselves, all while using the cast from the original Cartoon show. and made it so that this is the quintessential reboot movie, adult andy would go and take his family to watch.
to summarize:
_Buzz (in his ranger suit) goes off course from his test flight and crashes on a distant planet, in Zurg Territory. he meets a resistance soldier who is actualy Mira Nova, trying to free her people, but warns Buzz if they find out his spaceship came from outside Zurg space, they'll track down it's flight path and invade his home, which Zurg's drones essentially do. now it's a space race/ space road trip back to his base before Emperor zurg does with his armada. they meet more freaky aliens and planets along the way, meet booster, the Little Green Men (LGMs) who fix Buzz's ship and builds XR for him to aid on his mission, and make it back to star command, only to find Zurg's invasion has already begun. they sneak in, his new allies don ranger suits to fight back and send zurg stranded in the middle of space. and the story ends with word of zurg being defeated by Buzz and his crew spreading across the galaxy and unite to form the galactic alliance in case zurg ever returned._
> I actually came up with a FAR more better story for Lightyear than Pixar themselves
Well aren't we self righteous
👏👏👏 this can actually work
I watched this movie and 1. Cried the whole time. WHY WAS IT SO SAD!?!?! You’re completely right no adventure, I’d say all depressing
I mean when the Cat side character makes the movie bearable you know you have an issue. Like SOX was way more interesting than the movie itself.
Socks spinoff
But hes also kind of a get out of jail free card in the film too because HE JUST SO HAPPENS to have any tool necessary to get them out of any situation.
Sox basically becomes a problem himself
@@Thomasmemoryscentral I think his sheer amount of ridiculous technology and intellect is why they wouldn’t let Buzz keep him, he’s two weapons away from being an absolute force of destruction.
The thing that got me about this being "The movie Andy saw in 1995" is that the movie says this at the very beginning before anything happens. So this isn't just a marketing scheme. It's cannon that THIS film exists in the Toy Story universe. So it makes everything about the movie make no sense to me.
Why does Buzz the toy look, sound and act completely different from his film counterpart? You'd think he'd share some qualities with the film version. Why is the backstory on the back of his box different from the film? Why doesn't he have the energy blade they use in this film? Why does Zurg the toy claim he's Buzz's father when they're the same person?
I could at the very least say this film was a Buzz Lightyear reboot but the film tells me that it exists in Toy Story cannon so it leads me to wondering these things. On top the flaws this film has on it's own divorced from outside cannon, these problems with contradicting the cannon kept amassing and it ruined any enjoyment I might of had watching this film.
Yeah, Mean Applejack's lies from The Mean 6 make more sense than this movie.
My head cannon is that this movie inspired the star command cartoon and that’s what Andy fell in love with & that’s what the toy story buzz is based on
Pixar-....Well, at least we still get to hear the iconic Buzz voice from-
Disney-Also change the voice of Buzz
Pixar-*flips table*
Pros of this movie:
Sox is the best and funniest character
Animation is stellar
Soundtrack slaps
Action scenes are kinda cool
Cons of this movie:
Horrible slow voice casting
Boring characters
Lame story and message
Shitty villain
Shitty heroes
Terrible premise
Unconnected continuity
Too many in your face references
God awful jokes unless Sox made them
Overall: What the f*ck Pixar after some great gems like Soul, Luca, Turning Red, etc, movies that I hoped meant the return of Pixar’s former greatness and your return to the theatre is this piece of shit.
Yeah that random team of heroes was pretty shitty
Man the irony of this movie being no kid's favorite movie ever and the fact they marketed it as a kid's favorite movie is hilarious.
Honestly I like to think Lightyear would be one of those movies that were way better as a kid which is why it was Andy’s favorite because you have to remember when Andy watched this he would be in like 1st grade so I think it makes sense
But if it was, then why is the movie so goddamn depressing to watch?
@@eatatjoes6751 maybe that’s what he was into as a kid idk 👀
Then why does the toy have the cartoon's box instead of, I dunno, *THE MOVIE'S.*
@@eatatjoes6751 I think the toy was based off a different piece of Buzz media maybe the one the small fry buzz is advertising
@@eatatjoes6751 That's what's annoying me the most about this movie. My headcannon is that this came out in 1995 and Andy saw it and Star Command came out shortly afterwards as a spin off and he got the toy of that Buzz because it was more fun looking. That's the only way I could see this movie making sense but Andy would have definitely preferred Star Command over this.
The ironic thing is that Disney likes to pretend that Star Command doesn't exist anymore though.
I always thought the reason he jumped 22 years after the successful hyperspeed test was because actual hyperspeed is like 100x faster than the failed hyperspeeds. So instead of going 1 year into the future per minute he went 1 year per second. So like 22 seconds of hyperspeed is 22 years.
But that's just my guess as to why the gap was so different~
This fact cannot be stated enough this is NOT A 90s kids movie. This is a modern “subversive” “kids” movie actually aimed for Twitter users. If they wouldn’t have marketed it as “a movie Andy saw” it would’ve been fine
I saw the title "Lightyear doesn't make any sense" And said amen out loud! 🤣😂
the fact that the writer-quota joke comes back near the end of the video is hilarious!
Something to remember, by the time Lightyear completed animation, all of the Pixar founders were gone. The era of good Pixar writing is over.
When watching lightyear I thought socks would be the worst most annoying character, but then he was the best
given Zurg's Darth Vader line in Toy Story 2 I would love for Zurg to have been Buzz's abandoned son whom he abandoned when time travelling
Buzz did say that “the faster I go, the faster time passes” they mostly talked about the time passage after their FIRST time he attempts hyper speed
Love your movie reviews, Beaniie. You make my frustrations feel validated
"I like looking at Lightyear's box-office" as the ship was crashing slayed my liver lolol.
When I was younger when watching movies, I constantly asked my parents what was happening. As I got older, I did this less and understood the movies I would watch. It's NOT a good sign if I asked a LOT of questions when watching this movie.
these videos are funny as hell
Izzy said they played stealth mode, not they used stealth mode to play hide and seek. A slight difference that changes the meaning, which explains why she doesn’t know about the timer.
When I watched it I thought I was watching an intro to a story and then the movie ended. I was like… there’s no story line, where’s the characters growth, it just felt like an empty story
keep up the good work!
Definitely worth my subscription, love your humor and the little animations
The concept of this movie literally writes itself, idk how they effed up so bad
Meanwhile in the Buzz cartoon universe, Zurg is also angrily blasting this movie 🤣🤣🤣🤣
As far as 90s Sci-Fi movies go, this wasn’t THE worst
I missed the zurg line of “I am your father” from toy story 2. Yes it was a star wars ref but it was better than what we got in this
It feels like the marketing department and the actual movie had two different ideas about where to go. Like everyone kept saying, *this should have been a reboot.* Or, hear me out - a movie about the making of the toyline! Hell, the promo art itself could have been a movie!
Or, maybe, they already live in space - Star Command is an offshoot of some alien space resort thing ala Wall-E - and the movie could have been about going around and exploring the cosmos.
1:40 That's like how all of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movies only say "Cowabunga" once in every movie and in the newest one Mikey said it in slow motion.
The time travel in this movie made no sense. jumping 4 years into the future after each trip makes no sense. If you travel close to lightspeed according to the theory of relativity your time slows down, so unless buzz traveled a 4 lightyear round trip he would have been back within the day because from what is shown he travels close to the nearest star if we use Earth as a reference for safe distance that would be 8 light minutes away. we can make that number to even 30 light minutes away and even if he was traveling at half light speed he still would have returned the same day.
I didn’t even know we knew more about buzz, but now that I hear that there was more about buzz outside the toy story movies, and know how much it could’ve been better, I see how it couldve been better.